What is the process for reporting a scammer to the Admins?

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Quote from: BadBear on May 05, 2013, 01:40:26 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 05, 2013, 06:47:34 AM

Quote from: tclo on May 05, 2013, 12:26:36 AM

I'm fairly new on here but have done about 15 trades so far and have a good Rep and Trust thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1972777

I have gotten scammed three times and trying to learn more to avoid this, and also what do I do when I get scammed? I can post here, but should I report the person to one of the administrators so they can investigate and possibly give them a scammer tag on their account? I'm sure they don't have time to investigate scammers all day but I just don't know what the proper procedure is, post scam. Thank you.

The procedures used to be that making a special thread in Scam Accusations delineating the evidence would result in a mod reviewing the case as soon as practicable and a tag being given out. The process can easily become very intensive (both timewise, to read the otherwise meaningless drivel scammers (or their shills) often produce and knowledge-wise, as the issues raised occasionally require a phd in law to see through) and is often enough not a practical use of resources, so it's been pretty much abandoned by now as a matter of course.

The best way to not get scammed and the greatest thing you can do for your own future is getting in the WoT and learning how to use it.

Pretty much this. Scammer tag system isn't very efficient and doesn't work as well now with the increased size of the forum and the number of members (and scams, particularly the altcoin flood) over the past few months with the dramatic rise in price. It's too much of a time sink to tag each and every scammer when one has limited time as it is. Might as well stick a finger in Mount Vesuvius. I will say though, a better system is coming, that's more user based.

Yup. These days, I don't even open the thread unless I recognize the name of the person being accused. If I do recognize the name, though, I tend to investigate the matter. For example, bitlotto.

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Quote from: greyhawk on May 08, 2013, 04:53:01 AM

Quote from: jasonslow on May 08, 2013, 03:49:20 AM

Quote from: zero3112 on May 07, 2013, 10:29:56 PM

Quote from: jasonslow on May 07, 2013, 09:26:49 AM

This is my suggestion to prevent any future scams.

1. To create a sell thread you have to donate 1 btc to the forum. Must be 3 months old account and 100 posts.

2. No posting of any buy/sell posts outside non buy/sell section.

3. Banned ips/accounts that did not follow the rules point blank.

4. Hire more moderators.

5. Escrow is mandatory on all trades above 1btc.

I wish there was such a system I tried suggesting something similar to the admin. But honestly I don't think the admin cares he told me to fuck off.

The Admin really told that to you? I think even blackhat forums has better scam protections than here.

Nah, he sent money to a known scammer, who was very badly faking an escrow with a false PGP key, then cried his heart out about it here. Then he got all huffy when people told him that maybe the problem could be solved by not fucking sending money to known scammers very badly faking an escrow with a false PGP key.

+1. Context here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-was-buying-ripple-and-now-i-got-scammed-195317

And no, I don't think theymos told him that.

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Quote from: jasonslow on May 08, 2013, 03:49:20 AM

Quote from: zero3112 on May 07, 2013, 10:29:56 PM

Quote from: jasonslow on May 07, 2013, 09:26:49 AM

This is my suggestion to prevent any future scams.

1. To create a sell thread you have to donate 1 btc to the forum. Must be 3 months old account and 100 posts.

2. No posting of any buy/sell posts outside non buy/sell section.

3. Banned ips/accounts that did not follow the rules point blank.

4. Hire more moderators.

5. Escrow is mandatory on all trades above 1btc.

I wish there was such a system I tried suggesting something similar to the admin. But honestly I don't think the admin cares he told me to fuck off.

The Admin really told that to you? I think even blackhat forums has better scam protections than here.

Nah, he sent money to a known scammer, who was very badly faking an escrow with a false PGP key, then cried his heart out about it here. Then he got all huffy when people told him that maybe the problem could be solved by not fucking sending money to known scammers very badly faking an escrow with a false PGP key.

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Quote from: zero3112 on May 07, 2013, 10:29:56 PM

Quote from: jasonslow on May 07, 2013, 09:26:49 AM

This is my suggestion to prevent any future scams.

1. To create a sell thread you have to donate 1 btc to the forum. Must be 3 months old account and 100 posts.

2. No posting of any buy/sell posts outside non buy/sell section.

3. Banned ips/accounts that did not follow the rules point blank.

4. Hire more moderators.

5. Escrow is mandatory on all trades above 1btc.

I wish there was such a system I tried suggesting something similar to the admin. But honestly I don't think the admin cares he told me to fuck off.

The Admin really told that to you? I think even blackhat forums has better scam protections than here.

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Quote from: jasonslow on May 07, 2013, 09:26:49 AM

This is my suggestion to prevent any future scams.

1. To create a sell thread you have to donate 1 btc to the forum. Must be 3 months old account and 100 posts.

2. No posting of any buy/sell posts outside non buy/sell section.

3. Banned ips/accounts that did not follow the rules point blank.

4. Hire more moderators.

5. Escrow is mandatory on all trades above 1btc.

I wish there was such a system I tried suggesting something similar to the admin. But honestly I don't think the admin cares he told me to fuck off.

jasonslow

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This is my suggestion to prevent any future scams.

1. To create a sell thread you have to donate 1 btc to the forum. Must be 3 months old account and 100 posts.

2. No posting of any buy/sell posts outside non buy/sell section.

3. Banned ips/accounts that did not follow the rules point blank.

4. Hire more moderators.

5. Escrow is mandatory on all trades above 1btc.

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 05, 2013, 06:47:34 AM

Quote from: tclo on May 05, 2013, 12:26:36 AM

I'm fairly new on here but have done about 15 trades so far and have a good Rep and Trust thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1972777

I have gotten scammed three times and trying to learn more to avoid this, and also what do I do when I get scammed? I can post here, but should I report the person to one of the administrators so they can investigate and possibly give them a scammer tag on their account? I'm sure they don't have time to investigate scammers all day but I just don't know what the proper procedure is, post scam. Thank you.

The procedures used to be that making a special thread in Scam Accusations delineating the evidence would result in a mod reviewing the case as soon as practicable and a tag being given out. The process can easily become very intensive (both timewise, to read the otherwise meaningless drivel scammers (or their shills) often produce and knowledge-wise, as the issues raised occasionally require a phd in law to see through) and is often enough not a practical use of resources, so it's been pretty much abandoned by now as a matter of course.

The best way to not get scammed and the greatest thing you can do for your own future is getting in the WoT and learning how to use it.

Pretty much this. Scammer tag system isn't very efficient and doesn't work as well now with the increased size of the forum and the number of members (and scams, particularly the altcoin flood) over the past few months with the dramatic rise in price. It's too much of a time sink to tag each and every scammer when one has limited time as it is. Might as well stick a finger in Mount Vesuvius. I will say though, a better system is coming, that's more user based.

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Quote from: tclo on May 05, 2013, 12:26:36 AM

I'm fairly new on here but have done about 15 trades so far and have a good Rep and Trust thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1972777

I have gotten scammed three times and trying to learn more to avoid this, and also what do I do when I get scammed? I can post here, but should I report the person to one of the administrators so they can investigate and possibly give them a scammer tag on their account? I'm sure they don't have time to investigate scammers all day but I just don't know what the proper procedure is, post scam. Thank you.

The procedures used to be that making a special thread in Scam Accusations delineating the evidence would result in a mod reviewing the case as soon as practicable and a tag being given out. The process can easily become very intensive (both timewise, to read the otherwise meaningless drivel scammers (or their shills) often produce and knowledge-wise, as the issues raised occasionally require a phd in law to see through) and is often enough not a practical use of resources, so it's been pretty much abandoned by now as a matter of course.

The best way to not get scammed and the greatest thing you can do for your own future is getting in the WoT and learning how to use it.

tclo

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I'm fairly new on here but have done about 15 trades so far and have a good Rep and Trust thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1972777

I have gotten scammed three times and trying to learn more to avoid this, and also what do I do when I get scammed? I can post here, but should I report the person to one of the administrators so they can investigate and possibly give them a scammer tag on their account? I'm sure they don't have time to investigate scammers all day but I just don't know what the proper procedure is. Thank you.

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