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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 14, 2022, 09:14:02 PM

the last 15 months I grabbed 3 cards on ebay used all work well.

I have had more problems with new video cards than used ones. In total, I have purchased 150 used / 300 new GPUs over the past 6 years. The new ones had a DOA rate of 2-3% while the used were only DOA 1% of the time.

I received video cards from miners, they had lower hashrate or it crashed during overclocking. Such situations are very common. The end date for Ethereum mining has been announced and the suggested prices are dropping. Perhaps in September new video cards will be very cheap.

philipma1957, thanks.

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The website citing their own sources claims that as soon as this week NVIDIA will be officially lowering the prices of their RTX 30 high-end models. The price cut seemingly only affects premium cards (RTX 3080+) with no mention of cheaper cards being affected.

According to this information, RTX 3090 Ti would cost 1499 USD, a reduction of 500 USD from still official MSRP. The RTX 3090 non-Ti would cost 200 USD less with a new price tag of 1299 USD. Furthermore, RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3080 12GB prices would also be affected. One can expect at least 100 USD lower price for the 3080 Ti model and new price of 3080 12GB (which never had an official MSRP).
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https://videocardz.com/newz/benchlife-nvidia-to-introduce-geforce-rtx-3090-3080-price-cuts-this-week

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 14, 2022, 09:14:02 PM

the last 15 months I grabbed 3 cards on ebay used all work well.

I have had more problems with new video cards than used ones. In total, I have purchased 150 used / 300 new GPUs over the past 6 years. The new ones had a DOA rate of 2-3% while the used were only DOA 1% of the time.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2022, 03:51:48 PM

I remember the suggested retail price for the RTX 3090 was around $1500.
https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090-3090ti/
Where do you buy these video cards for $1,000?

FeeBay (no referral link)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=RTX+3090&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=RTX+3060+Ti&_osacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15

The price of used RTX 3060 Ti's is <$400 for me now.

Thank you, but these products will not be delivered to my country at the moment. This is a good price for such a video card, because it will be relevant in games and mining for a very long time. Are there any risks when buying these video cards? I prefer to do tests before buying used video cards.

If you are a usa buyer and purchase a used 3060ti on ebay from a usa seller you have about a week or two to return it if it is broken.

I grabbed a 3060ti FE model 60 days ago used on ebay.

it works fine i will go back and check price.

the last 15 months I grabbed 3 cards on ebay used all work well.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 14, 2022, 10:51:25 AM

Thank you, but these products will not be delivered to my country at the moment. This is a good price for such a video card, because it will be relevant in games and mining for a very long time. Are there any risks when buying these video cards? I prefer to do tests before buying used video cards.

I don't think the RTX 3090 will be relevant for either games or mining for very long. That's why it's price has dropped like a stone. The RTX 3060 Ti will.

I have bought 100+ used video cards any only 1 or 2 had a problem that the seller refused to fix. I will not buy new video cards unless the premium is < 5% greater than used.

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Quote from: Coinfarm ventures on July 13, 2022, 10:27:00 PM

Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2022, 03:51:48 PM

I remember the suggested retail price for the RTX 3090 was around $1500.
https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090-3090ti/
Where do you buy these video cards for $1,000?

FeeBay (no referral link)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=RTX+3090&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=RTX+3060+Ti&_osacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15

The price of used RTX 3060 Ti's is <$400 for me now.

Thank you, but these products will not be delivered to my country at the moment. This is a good price for such a video card, because it will be relevant in games and mining for a very long time. Are there any risks when buying these video cards? I prefer to do tests before buying used video cards.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2022, 03:51:48 PM

I remember the suggested retail price for the RTX 3090 was around $1500.
https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090-3090ti/
Where do you buy these video cards for $1,000?

FeeBay (no referral link)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=RTX+3090&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=RTX+3060+Ti&_osacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15

The price of used RTX 3060 Ti's is <$400 for me now.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 10, 2022, 12:20:32 PM

Now a very good price for video cards GeForce RTX3060 TI
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90835112
2 RTX3060 TI video cards are more profitable in mining than one RTX3090 TI video card. If the 4000 series does not make outstanding results in mining, then the 3000 series will be popular in mining for a long time.

I got an evga 3060ti ftw from lenovo 502 usd after all coupons 440 which is cheap

I envy you, in my country it costs 900-1000 dollars.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 11, 2022, 04:08:01 AM

Gamers may complain but I think gamers should not complain,the 3090 24 GB is capable of running anything paired with a good processor.For the miners,we would be happy to see the soonest the 4000 series hitting the market which would cause another drop in price in the 2000 and 3000 series

The RTX 3080/3090 series prices would be hit the hardest by the new generation. They have been the cards that have held their value the worst so far, with the RTX 3090 being $3000 last year but now you can get them for only $1000. The RTX 3080 10GB was $2000+ but now just $650.

Some AMD models like the RX 5000 series will suffer greatly because they're not good at non-ETH coins and are heavily used by miners. Radeon in general is more exposed to the crypto market.

I remember the suggested retail price for the RTX 3090 was around $1500.
https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090-3090ti/
Where do you buy these video cards for $1,000?

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Quote from: swogerino on July 11, 2022, 04:08:01 AM

Gamers may complain but I think gamers should not complain,the 3090 24 GB is capable of running anything paired with a good processor.For the miners,we would be happy to see the soonest the 4000 series hitting the market which would cause another drop in price in the 2000 and 3000 series

The RTX 3080/3090 series prices would be hit the hardest by the new generation. They have been the cards that have held their value the worst so far, with the RTX 3090 being $3000 last year but now you can get them for only $1000. The RTX 3080 10GB was $2000+ but now just $650.

Some AMD models like the RX 5000 series will suffer greatly because they're not good at non-ETH coins and are heavily used by miners. Radeon in general is more exposed to the crypto market.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 10, 2022, 12:20:32 PM

Now a very good price for video cards GeForce RTX3060 TI
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90835112
2 RTX3060 TI video cards are more profitable in mining than one RTX3090 TI video card. If the 4000 series does not make outstanding results in mining, then the 3000 series will be popular in mining for a long time.

I got an evga 3060ti ftw from lenovo 502 usd after all coupons 440 which is cheap

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Quote from: safar1980 on July 07, 2022, 05:21:20 PM

Nvidia may delay RTX 4000 GPU launch due to oversupply of RTX 3000

GeForce RTX 4000 graphics cards may not be widely available until December, as retailers struggle to move current gen GPUs in the wake of a flooded used market

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-gpu-launch-delay-geforce-3000-oversupply

I think Nvidia somewhat rushed into producing the 4000 series although their production cycle is once every year for the main GPU-s.Seeing the popularity of both 2000 and 3000 series still it is only natural for them to delay even further the 4000 series.

Gamers may complain but I think gamers should not complain,the 3090 24 GB is capable of running anything paired with a good processor.For the miners,we would be happy to see the soonest the 4000 series hitting the market which would cause another drop in price in the 2000 and 3000 series,of course if 4000 perform well but I think that will be highly likely.

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Now a very good price for video cards GeForce RTX3060 TI
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90835112
2 RTX3060 TI video cards are more profitable in mining than one RTX3090 TI video card. If the 4000 series does not make outstanding results in mining, then the 3000 series will be popular in mining for a long time.

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Nvidia may delay RTX 4000 GPU launch due to oversupply of RTX 3000

GeForce RTX 4000 graphics cards may not be widely available until December, as retailers struggle to move current gen GPUs in the wake of a flooded used market

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-gpu-launch-delay-geforce-3000-oversupply

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AMD graphics cards were the best for mining ethereum, and ethereum is still the largest coin for mining. On other algorithms, AMD loses a lot. In the gaming segment, gamers prefer to use Nvidia. After the end of Ethereum mining, the situation may change not in favor of AMD.

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Quote from: Coinfarm ventures on April 29, 2022, 01:12:25 PM

NGreedia is done for. The entire AMD lineup will be significantly more power-efficient this generation for gaming. The top-end Navi 31 die will match the RTX 4090 in gaming performance while using 20-30% less power and being cheaper to make than the huge Nvidia 800mm+ monolith die.

However, all 3 manufacturers will offer poor memory bandwidth. This means current-gen cards will still be the most economical for mining and will hold their value as long as PoS is delayed & we're in a crab or bull market.

AMD’s products have been kicking nvidia’s ass for a while now. The Radeon VII is still the best GPU I own and outperforms the 3xxx GPUs I have that came out much later. Nvidia has good software and I’d give them the advantage there. As far as which GPUs I’ve found to be the best after mining for more than a decade, Radeon products are hands down the clear favorite. Nvidia is a bigger company though, so don’t expect them to be “done” anytime soon.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 04, 2022, 04:45:47 PM

The only one to be bought for me is Rtx 4070 and that if it has a good price,the Gddr6 memory will allow not that much of overheating and fine tuning its clocks for mining I think we can easily be sure this card to reach near 85-100 Mhsh for just 180-200 watt of power consumption making it one of the most efficient cards,just like the Rtx 3060 ti is the best so far in terms of efficiency.

As for the other two,no matter if they will have a better hash rate dealing with Gddr6x memory and those power consumption is asking for trouble,not finding those interesting for mining unless you live in Alaska or some other cool place.

The article says that the GeForce RTX 4070 video card will appear in November-December 2022, and as a rule it will be sold after 1-2 months. If Ethereum mining ends in 2022, it doesn't matter anymore :)These video cards will be tested on other algorithms.

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Quote from: Coinfarm ventures on July 05, 2022, 12:59:40 AM

Quote from: arielbit on July 05, 2022, 12:35:07 AM

its hashrate will dictate the price

Not this time because crypto is in a bear market. Gamers will dictate the prices of the RTX 4000 series, which will be high since they will be gaming beasts. Gamers will dump the 3000/2000 series so prices will be very low, while most of them will be good at mining. So my prediction is the RTX 3060 Ti will be the most popular mining GPU in 2022 followed by the RX 6800.

i disagree.

i would use the word "money printers" ..changes perspective LOL

bull or bear, money printers are generating...taaadaaa! "money"..money generation dictates price

a money printer that produces 5 usd a day at equipment that cost of 4k usd in a "set and forget" set up, will be enticing for some who have spare space, money, electricity and time.

miners or money printers are on top of the food chain in gpu market (bull or bear). gpu mining if it turned to shit or when the times (past) where crypto is not "popular" yet, yeah gamers dictates price. in the past where everybody is a gamer and miners are very rare.

be wary of the term "popular", cards that used HBM vrams were not popular and they made a killing.

Quote from: safar1980 on July 04, 2022, 09:50:29 AM

Continue to update.
RTX 4090, AD102-300-A1, 16384FP32, 384bit 21Gbps 24G GDDR6X, 450W, base 2235 boost 2520 actual max >2750;
RTX 4080, AD103-300-A1, 10240FP32, 256bit 21Gbps 16G GDDR6X, 420W,
RTX 4070, AD104-275-Kx(x is a number)-A1, 7168FP32, 160bit 18Gbps 10G GDDR6, 300W.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-to-feature-2520-mhz-boost-clock-almost-50-higher-than-rtx-3090
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1543844605531418625?

the hint is in the power consumption. generally if there is "no significant architectural/tech improvement", to produce more performance you have to pump more power.

my speculation is 3xxx now generating income/coins (on the path to ROI) is better than 4xxx that is not in your hands yet/not making money.

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Quote from: arielbit on July 05, 2022, 12:35:07 AM

its hashrate will dictate the price

Not this time because crypto is in a bear market. Gamers will dictate the prices of the RTX 4000 series, which will be high since they will be gaming beasts. Gamers will dump the 3000/2000 series so prices will be very low, while most of them will be good at mining. So my prediction is the RTX 3060 Ti will be the most popular mining GPU in 2022 followed by the RX 6800.

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Quote from: Coinfarm ventures on July 05, 2022, 12:21:11 AM

Quote from: arielbit on July 04, 2022, 10:41:56 PM

gddr6x is the way to go. actually in the 3xxx series if you choose the right models properly you can do okay.

I think the older RTX 2000 generation will actually have the best bang-for-buck in this bear market, especially after ETH dies. My RTX 2070 super rig is great on ERG/FLUX/YEC/RVN. The RTX 3060 Ti is also good. I believe the new generation will be favored by gamers who need the raw TFLOP power. It will have poor memory bandwidth, so they won't be useful for us miners.

yup, that 4xxx series is a (3xxx)refresh for miners since it did not advance the memory tech (gddr6x), but they do add some cache just like the 6xxx of AMD which did really good in gaming, matching those 3xxx of nvidia.

whether there is something in those 4xxx series or not, its hashrate will dictate the price, not just 4xxx price but 3xxx, 2xxx and AMD prices as well. so if 4xxx is almost equal the performance in mining with 3xxx, either 3xxx will go up or 4xxx will go down, either way the price will be not much different.

from where i am, 2xxx prices are not very good might as well buy those 3xxx gddr6. since we are not expecting 4xxx hashrate to have a significant increase we can say that 2xxx won't be left behind in obsolesce.

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Quote from: arielbit on July 04, 2022, 10:41:56 PM

gddr6x is the way to go. actually in the 3xxx series if you choose the right models properly you can do okay.

I think the older RTX 2000 generation will actually have the best bang-for-buck in this bear market, especially after ETH dies. My RTX 2070 super rig is great on ERG/FLUX/YEC/RVN. The RTX 3060 Ti is also good. I believe the new generation will be favored by gamers who need the raw TFLOP power. It will have poor memory bandwidth, so they won't be useful for us miners.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 04, 2022, 04:45:47 PM

Quote from: safar1980 on July 04, 2022, 09:50:29 AM

Continue to update.
RTX 4090, AD102-300-A1, 16384FP32, 384bit 21Gbps 24G GDDR6X, 450W, base 2235 boost 2520 actual max >2750;
RTX 4080, AD103-300-A1, 10240FP32, 256bit 21Gbps 16G GDDR6X, 420W,
RTX 4070, AD104-275-Kx(x is a number)-A1, 7168FP32, 160bit 18Gbps 10G GDDR6, 300W.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-to-feature-2520-mhz-boost-clock-almost-50-higher-than-rtx-3090
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1543844605531418625?

The only one to be bought for me is Rtx 4070 and that if it has a good price,the Gddr6 memory will allow not that much of overheating and fine tuning its clocks for mining I think we can easily be sure this card to reach near 85-100 Mhsh for just 180-200 watt of power consumption making it one of the most efficient cards,just like the Rtx 3060 ti is the best so far in terms of efficiency.

As for the other two,no matter if they will have a better hash rate dealing with Gddr6x memory and those power consumption is asking for trouble,not finding those interesting for mining unless you live in Alaska or some other cool place.

here is something to think about

density is efficiency, rigs will be capped by PSU, board or connections. it is going to get capped one way or the other, if you add (managing) more rigs/cards--it is your man power (labor+time) who will get capped, now if you hire an extra hand, is that efficiency?

there is no escape regarding heat, burning or consuming watts the by product is heat. if you use 5000w of gddr6 compared to 5000w of gddr6x they will both heat the same room about the same.

the gddr6x issues back then were thermal pad quality and cooler designs, if those are to be fixed in the next gen gddr6x is the way to go. actually in the 3xxx series if you choose the right models properly you can do okay.

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Quote from: safar1980 on July 04, 2022, 09:50:29 AM

Continue to update.
RTX 4090, AD102-300-A1, 16384FP32, 384bit 21Gbps 24G GDDR6X, 450W, base 2235 boost 2520 actual max >2750;
RTX 4080, AD103-300-A1, 10240FP32, 256bit 21Gbps 16G GDDR6X, 420W,
RTX 4070, AD104-275-Kx(x is a number)-A1, 7168FP32, 160bit 18Gbps 10G GDDR6, 300W.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-to-feature-2520-mhz-boost-clock-almost-50-higher-than-rtx-3090
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1543844605531418625?

The only one to be bought for me is Rtx 4070 and that if it has a good price,the Gddr6 memory will allow not that much of overheating and fine tuning its clocks for mining I think we can easily be sure this card to reach near 85-100 Mhsh for just 180-200 watt of power consumption making it one of the most efficient cards,just like the Rtx 3060 ti is the best so far in terms of efficiency.

As for the other two,no matter if they will have a better hash rate dealing with Gddr6x memory and those power consumption is asking for trouble,not finding those interesting for mining unless you live in Alaska or some other cool place.

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Insane how much power they use.

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420w for a 4080 Cheesy

these are gonna be hot mother fuckers.

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Continue to update.
RTX 4090, AD102-300-A1, 16384FP32, 384bit 21Gbps 24G GDDR6X, 450W, base 2235 boost 2520 actual max >2750;
RTX 4080, AD103-300-A1, 10240FP32, 256bit 21Gbps 16G GDDR6X, 420W,
RTX 4070, AD104-275-Kx(x is a number)-A1, 7168FP32, 160bit 18Gbps 10G GDDR6, 300W.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-to-feature-2520-mhz-boost-clock-almost-50-higher-than-rtx-3090
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1543844605531418625?

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https://bitcoincleanup.com #EndTheFUD

This is 100% Photoshopped bullshit. Do you believe those video cards need a direct power cable? The creator of this image just tried to troll people with his photoshop creativity. Of course, he can get some likes, comments and shares. But, That's all.

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Quote from: kaya11 on May 02, 2022, 10:27:46 AM

Quote from: FP91G on April 29, 2022, 04:44:06 AM

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-testing-900w-graphics-card-with-full-next-gen-ada-ad102-gpu
TDP 900Watt

In fact, there is another full-fat AD102 SKU with 900W TGP, 48G 24Gbps GDDR6X, 2*16pin and higher frequency.
But no one knows whether it will become an actual product. Because the test board of AD102 has more than two 16pin connectors, so everything is possible
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1519182862699823106?

Good heater!

Power connectors look unreal to me, it look like a power connector for Power supply already. I think 6 and 8 pins are totally fine as of now and no need to upgrade to that kind. Well the performance looks great, but how would it be compare to present mining cards? Or are we just seeing a gaming only card in here?

This is trolling of manufacturers, there are no such connectors on the video card, but perhaps they will appear
https://www.gpuminingresources.com/p/psu-cables.html
6 and 8 pins is 216+288 watts, approximately 500 watts. For 900 watts you need 3x8 pins or 16pin connectors.

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you got trolled.

even ASICs separate PSU from the hashing/computing unit.

now there are two major failing points for that card, PSU part and the GPU part. PSU part breaks, GPU part will be useless (breaks the concept of "modular" tech)

look how thick it is, not even thick enough to cool 400w, not as thick as any PSU out there that could deliver 900w (plus GPU)

it is not safe to change thermal paste/pads, you have high voltage caps in there LOL

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Quote from: FP91G on April 29, 2022, 04:44:06 AM

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-testing-900w-graphics-card-with-full-next-gen-ada-ad102-gpu
TDP 900Watt

In fact, there is another full-fat AD102 SKU with 900W TGP, 48G 24Gbps GDDR6X, 2*16pin and higher frequency.
But no one knows whether it will become an actual product. Because the test board of AD102 has more than two 16pin connectors, so everything is possible
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1519182862699823106?

Good heater!

Power connectors look unreal to me, it look like a power connector for Power supply already. I think 6 and 8 pins are totally fine as of now and no need to upgrade to that kind. Well the performance looks great, but how would it be compare to present mining cards? Or are we just seeing a gaming only card in here?

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Quote from: safar1980 on May 02, 2022, 07:22:25 AM

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with over 100 TFLOPS of power
NVIDIA next-gen flagship GPU is rumored to deliver over 2.5 times more raw compute power over RTX 3090 Ti.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-with-ad102-gpu-rumored-to-ship-with-100-tflops-of-fp32-compute-power

This is craziness, we don't need this type of beasts lol, for what exactly? 😭😭😭 very soon game files will start exceeding 100TB per game and graphics will increase a lot, Unreal Engine 6 is definitely coming, sigh! This should be released not less than 2025.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with over 100 TFLOPS of power
NVIDIA next-gen flagship GPU is rumored to deliver over 2.5 times more raw compute power over RTX 3090 Ti.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-with-ad102-gpu-rumored-to-ship-with-100-tflops-of-fp32-compute-power

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I'm not sure if nvidia will make new models better for mining if they add new hashrate limiter to the 4000 series.If the new version is released after the end of ethereum mining, then it will not be in great demand. I hope that then the companies will understand that their main customers are not gamers.

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NGreedia is done for. The entire AMD lineup will be significantly more power-efficient this generation for gaming. The top-end Navi 31 die will match the RTX 4090 in gaming performance while using 20-30% less power and being cheaper to make than the huge Nvidia 800mm+ monolith die.

However, all 3 manufacturers will offer poor memory bandwidth. This means current-gen cards will still be the most economical for mining and will hold their value as long as PoS is delayed & we're in a crab or bull market.

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Dont know if this connector will be come that you posted on the picture !
But who knows what all the companies are already plans for the future with all there connectors.
I readed a lot of ideas how they can make the connectors more usefull from power supplys to Gpus.
Never heard and seen this idea.

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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-testing-900w-graphics-card-with-full-next-gen-ada-ad102-gpu
TDP 900Watt

In fact, there is another full-fat AD102 SKU with 900W TGP, 48G 24Gbps GDDR6X, 2*16pin and higher frequency.
But no one knows whether it will become an actual product. Because the test board of AD102 has more than two 16pin connectors, so everything is possible
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1519182862699823106?

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