Topic: What is Trust in the forum? (Read 970 times)

Fair enough. Obviously the person behind the QuickSeller account was very familiar with the forum before they started using that alias. It's fairly safe to assume they have at least one other account on here that is isolated from the whole drama about the QuickSeller account and its known alts. That account is most likely still here and well trusted.

I picked them as example because admittedly I do not have other concrete examples of accounts that managed to gain trust as effectively. The issue I have with this is that a knowledgeable person could create an alt, get it trusted and be in a position to pull off some scam in about 6 months. Sure, it will require effort but the whole building up trust thing is exactly what con men are about.

To bring it back to topic, the trust system on this forum is an attempt to quantify how trusted any given member is based on feedback given by those in your trust list.

QS was a special case due to how much effort he put into the forums.

well trust as we say its confidence its relaability its the glue to good bussiness any one who tryies to tricky gets negative trust and who its honest and goodd dealear its trusted and also has BTC probably. long term users are most trustthy if they do bussiness here ( correctly).

Does this qualify as sending first:

Because Quickseller registered on July 22, 2014, 05:51:40 AM. Not what I would call "years of trust".

Depends on what you define as a "good reputation". Not a chance I would send first to someone without years of trust built up here. It took over a year before I no longer had people ask to escrow when trading with me. Everyone will have different views on what is trusted and what is not though.

I can only agree with the last part, it takes only one bad move to become public to ruin your trust. But it takes (probably far) less than a year to get a good reputation (on a new alt account). This is what con men do. They're good at gaining trust.

There are two important factors with the Trust system. Trust, and Feedback. A lot of people get these two things confused.

Feedback is exactly what you think it is. Someone leaves you a remark on your feedback page that describes deals you have done with them and for what Bitcoin value. You can leave a positive, negative, or neutral feedback. If you look through the market sections, you will see people have numerical scores and colors next to their name under their trust. I'll get into that in a second.

Trust comes in depths, 0,1,2,3, or 4. By default, users will see up to depth 2, but that can be configured by each user. I will come back to the depths in a moment.. As a fresh account you will trust Yourself and Default Trust which is a list created by Theymos, and is a suggested list of who to trust. You can add any individuals you would like to your trust list. The main point I want to get across is "Trust" is not who you trust to do transactions, that is what Feedback is for. "Trust" in lamens terms is in charge of showing you feedback from people who's word you trust.

Heres an example:

You and I have done a trade for a 1TH miner for 1BTC. We are both happy with how things went down, and we each leave each other positive feedback for the amount of 1 BTC with a description of the deal. As I said before, you will always trust yourself so you will see that feedback you left for me as "Trusted Feedback"

On the flip side, I do the same deal with GenericUserA who you don't have added to your trust list, you will see the feedback details in the "Untrusted Feedback" section. If you have GenericUserA on your trust list, you will see their feedback as "Trusted Feedback" in the same way you would if you left it yourself.

Back to the depths, essentially it is just a hierarchy tree. Lets say you trust GenericUserA. You would be on depth 0 and GenericUserA on depth 1. GenericUserA adds GenericUserB to their trust list, then You would be on depth 0, GenericUserA on depth 1, and GenericUserB on depth 2, and so on and so on.

Major point here, keep in mind that each and every trust list is independent of each other. Each user will see feedback for others in different ways based on who they trust individually. The only time when trust lists interact is when you trust users who have their own trust lists. Going back to the last example where you were on depth 0, GenericUserA was on depth 1, and GenericUserB was on depth 2 for your trust list. If I add you to my trust list, my trust list will then show Me at depth 0, you at depth 1, GenericUserA at depth 2, and GenericUserB at depth 3. Its a bit confusing at first, but once you realize that its all just hierarchical views of inherited trust it simplifies a bit.

I have direct experience with this.  I lost my cool one night under a lot of pressure and did something I shouldn't have.  I lost over 30 trust points.   

It's a user reputation. High +ve trust means you are a trusted member in here and you do things that helps the community. High -ve trust means you are causing troubles in this forum, you are a scammer a troll or something like that.

Trust ratings helps things to bw much easier when it comes to trading and all. People trust you then you are a good member.

You would be surprised how many benefits come with being trusted. Just be honest all of the time and keep a level head when things get crazy here. It takes years to build up a good reputation and only one bad move to ruin it.

it's a reputation system. you get it by doing trades. well, mostly.

the above quote was meant to be a joke. the accumulated btc you'll be giving away will be much much much much higher than what you can get with your reputation.

This is how 99% of people in this forum have gained trust. So, 99% people wont tell you how they really did it and would definitely misguide you...

What is this Trust rating all about?
How do you get it?