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Topic: What It Means For Banks When Bitcoin Is Worth More Than Gold? (Read 2415 times)

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I don't think that is happening lately in 2017. Just look around you the price of bitcoin has skyrocketed to $ 1700 at this very moment and gold is well just is gold. Bitcoin or Gold it does not really matter when it comes to profiting yourself from your investment. So why would anyone want to drop the prices of bitcoins if they are getting profit from bitcoins (more than gold) in real world. It may be just banks don't wanna accept the bitcoin as real world currency yet or they might be planning to launch big time project in near future. We can't predict the devils who play the game of money.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
Bank in the whole world are not get easily worry about what is happening into bitcoin. I think they don't care about it, because it won't affect them at all anyhow. Maybe if some of their clients/customers will get shift to use into bitcoin and find/discover the feature usage of it, I think in that case bank has now has a reason to get panic and worry about it. Grin
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Nearly nothing, bitcoin price shows nothing to banks. But when bitcoin will be used frequently by multinational companies or other export-import companies to speed up transactions, they will care about the technology. Banks nowdays are in the phase of developing a new, blockchain based solution for getting things done quicker, to meet the customers' needs. If they can finish this development before bitcoin will reach the status of mass adoption, it can have influence on the price of bitcoin.
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If it is something that is not regulated or has no clear set polices, banks would not care too much about it, which is the case with bitcoin. They might be interested with the potential and the technology behind it, but they have other services to think of. Banks are all too careful when it comes to these things and would always prefer gold as the standard over any other digital currency that comes around.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

Actually i don't know is banks do not want to see bitcoin cost more than gold. How about banks start accepting bitcoin ? I mean, bitcoin have a good prospect and future. I think gold, bitcoin and bank can make a good combination and it will be a new era of digital currency though.

if bank will adopt this a lots of things are needed to be change as we knew bitcoin already established lower fee in terms of transferring the  certain amount unlike banks that have bigger one its very possible that bank will start looking for more ways how to adopt because bitcoin really showing much better value than gold.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

Actually i don't know is banks do not want to see bitcoin cost more than gold. How about banks start accepting bitcoin ? I mean, bitcoin have a good prospect and future. I think gold, bitcoin and bank can make a good combination and it will be a new era of digital currency though.
legendary
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Lets say 1BTC= $1200 how many grams of gold worth $1200? lets say 3 grams, now how much is the cost of mining 3 grams of gold and how much does it cost to mine 1BTC? what is the final amount of gold on earth reachable by mining and how many bitcoins will exist?
I'd say bitcoin worth more than gold already and they know it that's why demand has increased, they're trying to have the most mined coins for control over the economy in next 5 decades.


Ah, no.  $1250 per 1 toz (toz = troy oz) of gold works out to some $40 / gram (approx. 31 gm / toz).  Three grams would be worth approx. $120, NOT $1250.

European Central Bank just put out some pretty good figures.  (By interesting coincidence there is roughly is 1 toz for every person on the planet.)

So, let's do a little more math.  I saw at blockchain.info today that the total market cap of all the BTC out there is roughly $18.55 billion.

The total market cap for all physical gold held worldwide is about $8.75 TRILLION.

Look at that again:

Gold:  $8.75 trillion

vs.

BTC:   $18.55 billion


A big, big difference.  And not just by an order of magnitude...  All the gold is worth more than 400 x times the BTC.
legendary
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so twentysomething replies and almost no stating of the most obvious fact?

1 bitcoin - $1170 ish right now.

1 ounce of gold - $1257

Total number of bitcoins in existence -                       about 16,200,000

Total number of ounces of gold in existence - approximately 6,500,000,000

can anyone else spot those extra 6,498,380,000 ounces more that happen to be out there?

i know it's a psychological barrier, but... sheesh.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

Well, hope you know that gold is behind money and gold was the only worldwide thing, which was used everywhere as a payment. With that reason we can connect bitcoin with that persons which don't want bitcoin's price higher than gold. To my mind there are many reasons for that, low price is good sometimes for exchangers as higher price is good when someone is buying from them. No one can to give you real answer but mostly big players want to control it as they want for their aims.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

Absolutely nothing. I am pretty sure that banks they don't give a penny if the price of bitcoin will sky rocket because they care only about the profit. Therefore, is anyone sure that banks have not bitcoins in their portfolio? For banks the bitcoin the gold, the oil or anything else is like stocks. Banks will fight against bitcoin when the local currency is threatened because of its circulation i.e the PBOC asked AML/KYC bitcoin regulations and ban the bitcoin withdrawals in chinese exchanges in order to defend yuan.

The banks will mind if bitcoin is worth than gold and it is widely used by the masses. If that happens there will be lesser depositors in the banks and that means less income production. As we all know that banks uses our deposits and release it as a form of loan to their clients but without the depositors they will be forced to find large shareholders to fix the problems. But when the majority of people are into bitcoins the banks will suffer huge losses since people will hold more bitcoin rather than cash.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
I'd be hesitant to say anything right now, since it is entirely possible they can just ignore it.

It's not like the value of something is the end all be all for investors, a lot of them do have to keep in mind that volatility is a factor, and over the past day we've seen a $80 change in the value, trending downwards. It's not like they think everything is hunky-dory.
i think still there is nothing wrong to bank, because bitcoin is still not as such popular that can effect the position of banks at least in near future it is not going to happen, but still the possibilities to effect the bank by the bitcoin are very little.

Yeah banks won't get affected much because of bitcoin. People around the world depend much on banks for their financial needs. Bitcoin continues as an alternate solution for banking. This doesn't help bitcoin go mainstream and overcome the services provided by banks. Gold has got the trust of users much more than bitcoin. So surely people depend on gold and banks for emergency needs and bitcoin as a form of investment.
legendary
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I don't think it is going to affect anything, maybe less people will invest in gold and maybe more people will invest in bitcoin, but not all people in the world know bitcoin and believe in bitcoin,so there will be always people who is going to invest in gold and put their money in the bank, no matter whta happen with bitcoin, gold and bank will never collapse
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Lets say 1BTC= $1200 how many grams of gold worth $1200? lets say 3 grams, now how much is the cost of mining 3 grams of gold and how much does it cost to mine 1BTC? what is the final amount of gold on earth reachable by mining and how many bitcoins will exist?
I'd say bitcoin worth more than gold already and they know it that's why demand has increased, they're trying to have the most mined coins for control over the economy in next 5 decades.
sr. member
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The is a conspiracies from bank especially people bank of china to keep bitcoin below $1200 infact the first idea is to keep it below $1000. Like Rothschild said "give me the control and printing of  the country money and I would not care who rule it" that is what you see happening. Bitcoin is bigger than any man or group of greedy elites who keep their investment in gold and don't what bitcoin to grew.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
For Banks? I don't think it would be mean/affect them, maybe just a little bit, simply because bitcoin and banks are in different matter. Banks still handle fiat money transaction and bitcoin just an alternative currency for now. Although, we need fiat money to buy bitcoin which makes fiat as another major foundation for bitcoin environment.
You have a point and i think the same thing too on which bitcoins price or value even would surpass to gold wont affect banks at all since they dont even consider it as of now. You are right they do focus on fiat currency and we do all know that physical world does really need local fiat not bitcoin but still its just an alternative.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

Absolutely nothing. I am pretty sure that banks they don't give a penny if the price of bitcoin will sky rocket because they care only about the profit. Therefore, is anyone sure that banks have not bitcoins in their portfolio? For banks the bitcoin the gold, the oil or anything else is like stocks. Banks will fight against bitcoin when the local currency is threatened because of its circulation i.e the PBOC asked AML/KYC bitcoin regulations and ban the bitcoin withdrawals in chinese exchanges in order to defend yuan.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
For Banks? I don't think it would be mean/affect them, maybe just a little bit, simply because bitcoin and banks are in different matter. Banks still handle fiat money transaction and bitcoin just an alternative currency for now. Although, we need fiat money to buy bitcoin which makes fiat as another major foundation for bitcoin environment.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

To be honest i dont know, but Ben burnake said that gold isnt money which pretty much sounded like "i dont care" to me.  If bitcoin takes over then we win so i doubt they will like it and will prob do everything to oppose it.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
I'd be hesitant to say anything right now, since it is entirely possible they can just ignore it.

It's not like the value of something is the end all be all for investors, a lot of them do have to keep in mind that volatility is a factor, and over the past day we've seen a $80 change in the value, trending downwards. It's not like they think everything is hunky-dory.
i think still there is nothing wrong to bank, because bitcoin is still not as such popular that can effect the position of banks at least in near future it is not going to happen, but still the possibilities to effect the bank by the bitcoin are very little.
legendary
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
I'd be hesitant to say anything right now, since it is entirely possible they can just ignore it.

It's not like the value of something is the end all be all for investors, a lot of them do have to keep in mind that volatility is a factor, and over the past day we've seen a $80 change in the value, trending downwards. It's not like they think everything is hunky-dory.
legendary
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
Actually there is big resistance on $1200 so some correction before crossing that price range is normal. After few correction it is quite sure that price will pump hard again.

What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
They are not interested in bitcoin and what they cares is just a physical gold which they can touch. Grin
They may be buying bitcoin silently  Wink
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When the prices do go over the prices of gold, then that would really spark a movement that would cause the gold horders/holders to drop their gold and buy bitcoins. That would also mean that banks will lose money over this as most banks would be holding money and if bitcoins prospers, there would lesser people wanting fiat.
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Very clear their concern over the possible existence of Bitcoin markets which continue to threaten the world economy through banks that are economically financial markets held by them.
No one will ever be able to stop the rate of Bitcoin, will further increase and continue to rise
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It would not mean anything. Just a mad person to sell his bitcoin for the lower price. but actually, $1200 is ATH of bitcoin. So for those people have already sold their bitcoin at that price and they're so lucky person.
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I believe the banks will swallow a humble pie and accept Bitcoin as it is if it manages to go pass gold in terms of prices, because they've refused to give it the necessary recognition it deserves and have tried limiting its usage due to unhealthy competition.
legendary
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banks are happy when bitcoin price goes up, because it means by the time bitcoin is rising there are a lot of translations going through their service which will give them lots more fees to process all these transactions. once when people deposit money on exchanges to buy bitcoin and once when they sold and cash out to banks.
an by the time prices are rising like this, people do this more.

transaction don't go through banks service, from where this come? you made it up, transaction are routed by miners not banks, bitcoin is decentralized for a reason

if you mean bank exchange like xapo coinbase etc..., those only get the fee from trading and not for deposit
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Scary little bitcoin.  Grin
Is there a panic now with other commodity investors and those who put their money to other currency thinking they have much movement than bitcoin?
Sure do. A little more and it might come to many news channel. It will be hard for some people to swallow this truth.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
That it is true. A lot of people don't want to see Bitcoin costing more than gold, but it isn't up to ordinary people, it is mostly up to people who own extremely large amounts of Bitcoin or exchanges that have a lot of Bitcoin. They the ones with the real power. They choose when they want to pump and dump and that is what actually controls the price. But the second part of your post is not correct, a lot of people sell Bitcoin in a panic when the price goes up because they have made profit, they don't do it so that they can keep the price of Bitcoin low.
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

this is nothing new and that is not "someone".
every time price goes up, people who have invested in short term cash out to make profit, then some times there are even manipulations that cause panic sells too and price goes down. it is all done in all the other markets too but in smaller scale, people sell for profit : normal.

and don't worry too much. price is going to be higher very soon.

and to your main question, it means nothing to banks what bitcoin is worth. if people start using it instead of investing in it that is when they start to worry.

I don't know why these people are still using bitcoin, they want bitcoins price to be low, and it doesn't make any sense at all, because most of the bitcoin users are wishing that bitcoins price is always fluctuating on a higher one so that they could a lot of profits from it, but some of them do not want to, then I guess this guys should stop using bitcoin right away and use gold instead.

Because they are not getting any benefits at all if they are selling their bitcoins in a low price if its price got higher, this is insane, because no one would ever do that.

And banks don't care about bitcoin, because they know that they can't touch it, because it is decentralized, even bitcoins price gets high all the time, the banks can do all the time is to watch bitcoin to its way to success.
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banks are happy when bitcoin price goes up, because it means by the time bitcoin is rising there are a lot of translations going through their service which will give them lots more fees to process all these transactions. once when people deposit money on exchanges to buy bitcoin and once when they sold and cash out to banks.
an by the time prices are rising like this, people do this more.
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the answer is simple : ETF of GOLD will be in shit mode.



and bitcoin value will be skyrocketed to 3500 USD.





https://ybitcoin.com/articles/bitcoin-as-an-investment/
Wait, isn't >50% of black market transactions in btc already? We need to pump those $44,000 numbers up, those are rookie numbers
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...

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"and to your main question, it means nothing to banks what bitcoin is worth. if people start using it instead of investing in it that is when they start to worry."


That would be my take as well.  The banks will not likely worry about BTC until if/when it becomes a popular (for the masses) payment system.

I don't think that gold will be much influenced should Bitcoin price go higher than Au (I would guess that BTC will be higher before, but that's a guess).
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?

this is nothing new and that is not "someone".
every time price goes up, people who have invested in short term cash out to make profit, then some times there are even manipulations that cause panic sells too and price goes down. it is all done in all the other markets too but in smaller scale, people sell for profit : normal.

and don't worry too much. price is going to be higher very soon.

and to your main question, it means nothing to banks what bitcoin is worth. if people start using it instead of investing in it that is when they start to worry.
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The simple explanation is that no matter in what country you live our system is like an Hitler, they want us to believe in value they can control, gold and any other currency and if they lose control they will try to put a star of david on you.

And as you said, sheeps will run from Bitcoin wolfs will stay, we know that Bitcoin is not and ideal and we need to work to make it more adoptable.
Only with our work Bitcoin will become best asset and we as early adopters know it. No matter who is attacking Bitcoin we will stay and improve it to make it best asset.
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I think we need wolfs to fight against wolfs if this is an attack from bankers...
This is a war and when Bitcoin millionaires collaborate together to keep Bitcoin price for more than a Gold we will show for the all world that the Bitcoin is better than their system of scams and this will be the second biggest period of Bitcoin.
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the answer is simple : ETF of GOLD will be in shit mode.



and bitcoin value will be skyrocketed to 3500 USD.





https://ybitcoin.com/articles/bitcoin-as-an-investment/
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We clearly see that someone do not want to see Bitcoin cost more than gold price, when Bitcoin hits 1200$ instantly someone is starting to sell Bitcoin very cheap to control the price.
What it would mean for Banks when Bitcoin will cost more than a gold?
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