Topic: What makes someone a scammer? (Read 1748 times)

Hashfast bankruptcy court:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/its-all-over-bitcoin-miner-maker-hashfast-to-auction-remaining-assets/

M.A.T. bankruptcy court:

http://www.coindesk.com/mining-asics-technologies-bankrupt/

Cointerra getting sued:

http://insidebitcoins.com/news/bad-week-for-bitcoin-miners-c7-data-centers-sues-cointerra-for-5-4-million-in-damages/28666

AMT Miners getting class action law suit:

http://advancedminers-clients.com/

VMC ordered by court to halt operations:

http://www.coindesk.com/missouri-secretary-state-halts-mining-business-deceptive-tactics/

Only Butterfly labs got closed down by the feds right? I haven't heard of other operations getting shut down.

Basically someone that doesn't want to pay dues, work hard, has ethics, or earn money the honest way.  Usually lazy assholes that use a vehicle like say Bitcoin, to convince noobs and naive people they can get rich quickly, by investing into a scheme or scam operation.

Alot of the early Bitcoin mining manufacturers and most cloud mining operations run an ongoing scam.

For most people in the USA, it is a matter of being lazy or lack of patience. They could earn money honestly, but don't want to put out the effort.

But sometimes it is just survival...

If a particular group of people becomes disenfranchised and not allowed to work or accumulate wealth they will need to find a way to survive. Example, ex-convicts in U.S.A., gypsies & jews in early europe.

In some parts of the world, there just aren't any decent jobs. I when I say decent, I am not even referring to some minimum wage job, I am referring to a job that will buy enough food to feed you and your kids.

I use to spend a lot of time in the Philippines. Before my trips I would chat with girls online. Many would try to scam me and I would stop talking to them. Except this one girl, she was fun to flirt with even though she was always trying a new scam with me. Anyway, when I was in Butuan, she begged to meet me. She was living in a cardboard shack with her sister and a bunch of kids. Their husbands had ran off years ago. However, she was smart and knew english. So she would go online and try to get men to send her money with sob stories. It was the only way she knew how to survive. The money she got paid for food and internet cafe time. She slept on an old reed mat. Her kids were half starved, but never complained.

I stayed with her for about a month and got a good look into her life. It was pure grinding hardship. She worked harder to survive than 99% of the females I know in the USA.
 
While I was there, the internet went down for about two weeks, this included all ATMs, so I was completely broke for a while. She never complained once. Would go out and find scraps of wood or paper to cook with. One morning there was nothing but an egg and some left over rice. She cooked the egg and gave it me (which I refused and made her give it to the kids). Told me that if my money didn't show up, we could go up into the hills to scrounge for food. Crawdads and stuff.

The sister would try to sell stuff all day beside the road. I think she averaged less than 100 pesos ($2.50) a day in sales. I don't know how much she paid for the stuff, so not sure what her profit was.

I make fun of scammers just like everyone else, but I don't wish them harm or loss of freedom. Many are just trying to survive. Now Somalian pirates...or people that resort to violence....no mercy.

The science of lying

easy to get money and rich as fast .
but thats not reason

That's right but people tend to do it over the Internet not because they are in a tough spot but because it's anonymous.

Well, sometimes you are forced to scam to survive. If you are on a pretty difficult situation and basically trapped in a circumstance since birth (ie, being born in a shitty environment) you'll be forced to do anything to survive, scamming is one of the quickest way to do it and when you need to eat you don't care about morality.

What makes someone scammer ?
I thought the biggest factor is lack of morality.

Usually greed, vengeance and the idolizing of money instead of anything worth while. People who make empty promises and deliver nothing they agree upon are scammers. they lead others to believe what they offer is valid in an attempt to run away with a small foprtune. scammers come in a variety of personas, Cex.io is scammers, hashprofit is also scammers. CEX.io is completely transparent to how they scam people out of thier bitcoins where as places like hashprofit is not.

Human nature is as it is, if I can get away with it I will do it. If I wont get in  trouble then its not wrong. that is the mindset of people like Ghash.io and hashprofit and the countless others out there.

i say that there is a greadyness of the investers of being rich who got scammed

In my opinion if someone use your money for his own benefit, like in most online HYIP programs today.
Basically, this people lie to others for personal benefit and don't care for others, stealing your money.
Low level people.

Greed.
Poor but have a hack skill.
and Cruel!


not all ponzi scheme scam i think, but most all is scammer

the reality is that ppl here are alerting with the tricks used by scammers, who have no or little place to exist!

they want to get rich in a short time, and they are like a murderer.
they never with what they have.

I think you've just identified a potential scammer

You do realize normal people don't think this way, right? There are a lot of reasons why not.

But people tend to take a revenge on somebody innocent too, just in need for revenge in general.

Someone with an brain that functions other than most people.
They are a minority, don't worry.

Revenging who exactly here , Unless he can revenge the one who scammed him on the first place ... I don't think that revenging of random people makes anything right at all & make no sense at all

Willing revenge after being scammed

I would call it poor people who do not care about value and others. Just looking for profiting on the others.

Good lucky, if they think they became better and happy this way.

When a lonely man sitting around the internet and roaming in this forum with nothing to do...get's this idea of scamming people.

Someone who doesn't have righteous value. I mean you know it is morally wrong but still do it anyway. Making others feel miserable and cheated of their hard earned money is the worst crime ever.

The human nature. If scam people is easy and have no risk ,then why not?

Someone who lies (commits fraud) in order to get money/power/anything from you.

Not sure. Why don't you ask BFL?

I strongly disagree, that a scammer has to be poor. There are a lot of scammers who where already rich in the beginning.
To become a scammer, you just have to have no moral standards. I think, most of the time, they think, they are just better as everybody else.
In my opinion casinos are also not scammers. Casinos are more like drug dealers, since they make most money by exploiting an addiction.

high desire for a product or a weak economy, so that they become a scammer

the attempt to defraud people on false pretences, the services and lending sections are full of them

Someone who tricks people for personal gain where the person tricked loses or something like that

You can say so, but they have some tricks to prevent anyone to think them as scammer like, fake provably fair & make specific rules at their site

so what about casino's.....in this era they are the biggest scammers.....they have a technique in which they always win

Taking advantage of others and not providing the service or product agreed upon beforehand.

Depends on how you view it
Delivering a product and lying about what work it entails seems to qualify looking in Meta although I would consider that more of a con myself.
Traditional one is takes money then gives you nothing

mm your question have basically two meanings , at least this what I see.
If you mean what are the things that makes him become a scammer then it's definitly being poor ,despret and/or simply Greedy
for the second meaning if you mean what are the things that define if someone is a scammer or not then I think it's simply stealing from people and scamming xD
Couldn't be simplier then that .

~ Madness

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

do not have a job, poor and have no conscience 

What makes someone a scammer? what do u think???