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Quote from: pixie85 on March 07, 2020, 06:25:14 PM

If casinos want to increase the popularity of P2P they have to come up with such games. You can play a lot of different easy games against other players like chess, checkers, even battleships.

Casinos games like poker and rummy are already popular. Dont know if Bridge is played anywhere but it is also good. Sports betting is always there. You see coming up with a new game is a very difficult thing to do. Homemade games may be specific to a certain casino and they will bank on that game to be their marketing avatar.

Chess, checkers are games that need skills but putting money on those games makes it even more interesting. I think this is one sector that is not yet received the involvement of crypto investors to set up a casino and might be a good market in future.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I never heard that P2P promotion I think it's a poker game I'm not so sure but there's a lot of P2P games like poker lucky nine tong it's and many more but some are not in online. So I think this is not a good for site because some not interested in P2P games especially in online.

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Out of the typical games you can play against another person it would probably be poker. There aren't many casino games where you can play against someone. Most of them like blackjack, dice, roulette are played against the house.

If casinos want to increase the popularity of P2P they have to come up with such games. You can play a lot of different easy games against other players like chess, checkers, even battleships.

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Quote from: Tipstar on February 13, 2020, 10:15:56 AM

P2P games could be a great concept but I haven't seen any professional gambling site doing it. Lottery is a sort of mass P2P games but it's slow and non adventurous.
The site could just hold the coins and take away the commission. I have played rock paper scissor in faucethub that was fun playing P2P but the microwallet is closed now. And there also was a lightning gambling site that allowed P2P coin flip.

Yes such games would be fun and the casino should take profits from the winner only to be fair to the loser.

I sometimes wonder if there exist a sportsbook that could work on pvp basis and player could make bets against each other and avoid the massive house edge that is being taken by the bookies online. I mean dice is fine because there is 1% edge usually but sports betting have heavy house edge ranging from 10-20% varying on events and bookies.

The logic of pvp exist only where the games can be won using skills and not luck because any games that are based on luck you can always play such against the house for example dice and roulette. Lottery is the worst form of pvp because while you win against other players there is no skill involved at all.

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Quote from: MWesterweele on March 03, 2020, 10:56:46 AM

I never encounter a p2p games

Quite surprising because you seem to be a regular in gambling section and even dice was introduced as PvP by primedice but I agree that there are not many PvP games out there now days.

Quote from: MWesterweele on March 03, 2020, 10:56:46 AM

but if ever had in betting games, maybe most of players dont try this kind of games because first peer to peer betting is legal but not accepted in some Law. Second its still better to bet from your crypto than using your fiat. But if ever p2p games betting become known then possible it will used of some player and maybe I try it, but for now i'll remain the old style betting.

Not sure about legality but player vs player games are much more fun because you are not playing against a giant house which is gonna eat your bankroll eventually. The main reason why not much casinos offer such games is because the house always wants to win and with player vs player games they will be mere spectators and live on tiny edge.

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Why not create a game that have a 1 v 1 or a team fight.
A classic MOBA games and bring back some old memories like DOTA 1 where gambler would create a lobby with a certain amount of players that they want and a certain amount of bet.
A game where we would use our own skill and doesn't depend much on luck.

I believe decent.bet offers such opportunities where you can play these games for money and win against other players and I also heard they have implemented some good cheating detectors to avoid any hackers and unfair advantages but I have not used the website myself since I am not someone who is into player games because I rather love to play against the house it's easy and simple while also being fast.

I don't know why anyone would be playing against players and wait for matching when they can always play against the computer. But yes games of skills are where house won't be able to play with you.

The house will only provide you presetted computer program that could play against your game. However, unlike the personal match which you can play lively with a person next to you can be fun compared with bot computer. For me, bot set-up was only a virtual aspect which we can't feel the presence of person to person interaction just like with online mobile games.

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Quote from: Ailurophile on February 21, 2020, 05:32:59 AM

I think chess or other board games would be great.
Something that would also exercise our brains.
A strategy game would be the best P2P games I like to see a platform that would make a strategy games for P2P bets.

But, with thee games there is always a chance that your opponent might use some scripts for example you can use chess.com's level 12 computer and use it to beat your opponent, I mean you make the moves your opponent makes and use the computer's move to beat your opponent.

I do believe that if somehow there could be a possibility to play skill games like CSGO 5 v 5 for money and you get matched with the same level of players, that would be great I think. The current ones I am playing as pvp are games like sports betting where I bet with my friends and avoid paying house edge.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on March 03, 2020, 09:48:51 PM

Why not create a game that have a 1 v 1 or a team fight.
A classic MOBA games and bring back some old memories like DOTA 1 where gambler would create a lobby with a certain amount of players that they want and a certain amount of bet.
A game where we would use our own skill and doesn't depend much on luck.

I believe decent.bet offers such opportunities where you can play these games for money and win against other players and I also heard they have implemented some good cheating detectors to avoid any hackers and unfair advantages but I have not used the website myself since I am not someone who is into player games because I rather love to play against the house it's easy and simple while also being fast.

I don't know why anyone would be playing against players and wait for matching when they can always play against the computer. But yes games of skills are where house won't be able to play with you.

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The games that I play in the P2P is the poker and tongits and but I use application named Tongitsgo but they did not use crypto and they are using real money. Mostly poker is the most popular games when we are say P2p games but they have many games that you pkay when you want to play but if the gambling sites available P2P and only some are have that.

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Why not create a game that have a 1 v 1 or a team fight.
A classic MOBA games and bring back some old memories like DOTA 1 where gambler would create a lobby with a certain amount of players that they want and a certain amount of bet.
A game where we would use our own skill and doesn't depend much on luck.

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There are few good ones before but they haven't caught the attention of gamblers and their charm only lasted within their initial launch. People still prefer traditional gambling over P2P, games. They prefer a centralized authority/bookie to facilitate the games they bet on and it might take some time before a fully-working P2P gambling site is up to cater the needs of its peers. Having said that, I kinda remember some sports bookies offering P2P bets, though I don't know if they're still around anymore.

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Quote from: Ailurophile on February 21, 2020, 05:32:59 AM

A strategy game would be the best P2P games I like to see a platform that would make a strategy games for P2P bets.

It should be the eSport games themselves that must offer p2p betting. I wonder why is that they don't offer one the best service they could give to their users and potential bettors. It's been a while since we started playing eSports games with bets together with our co-players in our city. I wonder how would the p2p betting affect the life of the eSports.

Maybe we need to petition this to the eSports game developers and help them to produce this service. Anyone in the game will be sure to be happy with this and get inspired.

I never encounter a p2p games but if ever had in betting games, maybe most of players dont try this kind of games because first peer to peer betting is legal but not accepted in some Law. Second its still better to bet from your crypto than using your fiat. But if ever p2p games betting become known then possible it will used of some player and maybe I try it, but for now i'll remain the old style betting.

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Quote from: Ailurophile on February 21, 2020, 05:32:59 AM

A strategy game would be the best P2P games I like to see a platform that would make a strategy games for P2P bets.

It should be the eSport games themselves that must offer p2p betting. I wonder why is that they don't offer one the best service they could give to their users and potential bettors. It's been a while since we started playing eSports games with bets together with our co-players in our city. I wonder how would the p2p betting affect the life of the eSports.

Maybe we need to petition this to the eSports game developers and help them to produce this service. Anyone in the game will be sure to be happy with this and get inspired.

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Quote from: Ailurophile on February 21, 2020, 05:32:59 AM

I think chess or other board games would be great.
Something that would also exercise our brains.
A strategy game would be the best P2P games I like to see a platform that would make a strategy games for P2P bets.

It is indeed interesting. I've heard there are some conducting such events but never been or even saw something like that. For me it would only be good for some past time hobby, because i would be bored easily until the time comes. I would prefer much more interesting and has more excitement p2p games.

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I think chess or other board games would be great.
Something that would also exercise our brains.
A strategy game would be the best P2P games I like to see a platform that would make a strategy games for P2P bets.

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Quote from: abel1337 on February 13, 2020, 10:48:16 AM

There are some p2p games that are now available to play with, Like poker and some trading p2p game.

Texas holdem is a good game to play if you are well versed in it. Then again a real life game attracts a niche crowd there than the online games but online option is available. Many of the casinos here allow the p2p poker games where collusion is kept to a minimum but that fear is always there.

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I also played rock paper scissors before and it is quite fun and fast.

Still skeptical about how much the p2p associated skill and the EV+ aspect would be in RPS game in online mode.

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I am also not fan of lottery, besides that, it is slow and non-adventurous, I am not lucky on lottery games since then. Fast p2p games are more entertaining than playing on a programmed game.

Who said lottery is a p2p game? It is not. Lottery is a completely EV- game and you chance of losing is more than winning. Dont bet on lotteries to win jackpots, you will be broke before you know it.

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Quote from: Tipstar on February 13, 2020, 10:15:56 AM

P2P games could be a great concept but I haven't seen any professional gambling site doing it. Lottery is a sort of mass P2P games but it's slow and non adventurous.
The site could just hold the coins and take away the commission. I have played rock paper scissor in faucethub that was fun playing P2P but the microwallet is closed now. And there also was a lightning gambling site that allowed P2P coin flip.

There are some p2p games that are now available to play with, Like poker and some trading p2p game. I also played rock paper scissors before and it is quite fun and fast. I am also not fan of lottery, besides that, it is slow and non-adventurous, I am not lucky on lottery games since then. Fast p2p games are more entertaining than playing on a programmed game.

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P2P games could be a great concept but I haven't seen any professional gambling site doing it. Lottery is a sort of mass P2P games but it's slow and non adventurous.
The site could just hold the coins and take away the commission. I have played rock paper scissor in faucethub that was fun playing P2P but the microwallet is closed now. And there also was a lightning gambling site that allowed P2P coin flip.

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If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Honestly, I like that site. But it seems it didn't really get the interest of most gamblers. We can now assume that betting related to binary or any other market prediction game when applied to P2P betting isn't the gambling type that most gamblers want. It might have a good run during the early operation but not sustainable in the long-run.

I hope to see P2P form of betting at those skill-based games wherein strategy is the main key to win at any challenge. I also like to see this in some mind-games too. But my major concern is, if this P2P betting will be applied at this skill, mind or strategy-based games, how they will prove the fairness that we are against a real human, a real gambler, a real player and not against a robot or in other words, in a manipulated system. I think that's also the reason why we are seeing few sites with a P2P betting feature.

I'm not sure if bot will have the chance to win in P2P betting site like betller actually, unless it can analyze the market direction upon random user betting in the platform. Its those players who seeks preys who keep losing because those who observes them will pick their bets.

Its hard to see which games that will be fair for p2p. In sports, its best to have odds otherwise I wouldn't pick the underdog against the champ.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Honestly, I like that site. But it seems it didn't really get the interest of most gamblers. We can now assume that betting related to binary or any other market prediction game when applied to P2P betting isn't the gambling type that most gamblers want. It might have a good run during the early operation but not sustainable in the long-run.

I hope to see P2P form of betting at those skill-based games wherein strategy is the main key to win at any challenge. I also like to see this in some mind-games too. But my major concern is, if this P2P betting will be applied at this skill, mind or strategy-based games, how they will prove the fairness that we are against a real human, a real gambler, a real player and not against a robot or in other words, in a manipulated system. I think that's also the reason why we are seeing few sites with a P2P betting feature.

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There are many Hero vs Hero games in mobiles. Like Clash of Clans have launched their P2P fights against another player which is really a cool feature for gamers. If its possible then I would bet coin on winning while playing and similar feature for the opponent too.

I dont know whether someone implemented this but it would be a trendy.

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Just create something that we would enjoy and fun there are so many games so create some PVP game that would have some bets per round.
Or some racing game but make the cars or character balance not something that would be a game where cash affects the character attribute.

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someday I will try to play in the P2P betting site if I can have more money to gamble because right now, my focus is on how I can collect more and more bitcoin or some altcoin before the price starts to increase.

Surely you are not a gambler then because yes saving bitcoins is a good idea but gambling is something else, you always feel like making more and more.

With the growing of bitcoin price, I feel that it is better to try to make more bitcoin from now on because who knows, in the next few months, bitcoin price will increase higher. And if that happens, I will have a lot of money, and I can buy more coins at the market, and maybe I will use some amount to gamble Wink

Besides that, I feel better to use altcoin than to use bitcoin to gamble because bitcoin now is too worth for me.

altcoins are actually following too . right now both alts and btc are worth it and its hard for me to gamble them . when bull run comes like this , i dont feel like gambling but im more of an investor . after i succesfully sold . ill wait for a while when the bull run subsided and that is the time that ill be playing gambling again . in the meantime i dont ever tried p2p games and i dont know if what are those games . so far i only tried the classical gambling games which are not based on p2p .

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I think that many will agree that a lot of gamblers would prefer playing p2p dice,poker or sport betting rather than playing against the bookies.I think there is a lot for the company offering such services to players.The company can take a small,really small fee from each bet played kinda like the poker tables operate.I think this would be a welcome move by many gamblers.

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someday I will try to play in the P2P betting site if I can have more money to gamble because right now, my focus is on how I can collect more and more bitcoin or some altcoin before the price starts to increase.

Surely you are not a gambler then because yes saving bitcoins is a good idea but gambling is something else, you always feel like making more and more.

With the growing of bitcoin price, I feel that it is better to try to make more bitcoin from now on because who knows, in the next few months, bitcoin price will increase higher. And if that happens, I will have a lot of money, and I can buy more coins at the market, and maybe I will use some amount to gamble Wink

Besides that, I feel better to use altcoin than to use bitcoin to gamble because bitcoin now is too worth for me.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on February 11, 2020, 10:33:19 AM

Well, Strategy-based games are the most appropriate in p2p betting. With proper ranking, and match playing binary so the people would enjoy playing along with enemies on the same skill range. I am really sorry about this statement but p2p games aren't really a good idea. RPG Games is also one of the best options. Indeed, --the RPG Game Providers must have a project that lets people connect from different countries so people can enjoy playing p2p bet with it.

Disagree. RPG games aren't appropriate with P2P betting. What will they compete for on those games? F2P always has disadvantages at any RPG game again those players who are putting money to improve their account.

The games appropriate for P2P betting are strategy-based games like chess, card games, board games. For the usual online games, it should have the same gameplay like Clash of Clans, Clash Royale, Car Racing, sports games such as NBA, billiard games, first shooting games such as Counter-Strike, ROS, COD and any deathmatch form of games. Not that they will copy exactly these games but the game system should be like that.

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Quote from: Latviand on February 11, 2020, 10:50:57 AM

The games that I usually play are lottery, dice games, slot machines , and other games which are pure luck. But I do also play player to player game such as those which are card games in particular with poker. But I just prefer those which do not need strategies because I am just playing to kill time and for me, luck-based gambling games suits my need, well.

I am not also fond of interactions with other players that much and that might be the reason why p2p kind of gambling games did not get my interest that much. But maybe, if there would be p2p games such that those in which many people play in the mobile phones, or those which are not alike with the traditional gambling games, which involves betting, would be worth to try.

Lol, how comes you're not fond of playing with other players? Abusive chat messages?

Most of the times there is an option to mute the other players, so they cant taunt/tease etc.

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If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I have not seen the site, and I just heard that maybe I will visit later.
my question, what game is the most played on the site?

Focuses exclusively on binary options... It's an interesting take on it as multipliers can rise based on participation, but it's also a downside to depend on user bets for the stakes to be raised. The website also has risk in this transaction, Soni think it would be best to offer a stable multiplier instead. Binary options don't seem to.fair that well with p2p for me.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I have not seen the site, and I just heard that maybe I will visit later.
my question, what game is the most played on the site?

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Quote from: Ailmand on February 09, 2020, 11:21:59 PM

I guess games where you can use you knowledge and skills as an advantage against other players. Most gambling games are all about luck and stuff. Something like arcades, racing and etc.

I am wondering if there are platforms here who cater setting a match for online games like dota, LOL, and other famous online games where players can bet on each other.

That could be massive but even though now a days you can bet on esports though you cant play the game you bet but you can bet on your favorite players and teams.

But, I guess even luck based games would be cool because betting against the house you are certain that you will lose it, but when you are betting against another gambler it makes more possible to win than to just loose. There can be games like chess which would be cool to play around and the system can make sure the matchmaking is done on the basis of MMR rating which means that high ranked players gets to play with only high ranked players and they don't destroy new/low skill players.

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The games that I usually play are lottery, dice games, slot machines , and other games which are pure luck. But I do also play player to player game such as those which are card games in particular with poker. But I just prefer those which do not need strategies because I am just playing to kill time and for me, luck-based gambling games suits my need, well.

I am not also fond of interactions with other players that much and that might be the reason why p2p kind of gambling games did not get my interest that much. But maybe, if there would be p2p games such that those in which many people play in the mobile phones, or those which are not alike with the traditional gambling games, which involves betting, would be worth to try.

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Well, Strategy-based games are the most appropriate in p2p betting. With proper ranking, and match playing binary so the people would enjoy playing along with enemies on the same skill range. I am really sorry about this statement but p2p games aren't really a good idea. RPG Games is also one of the best options. Indeed, --the RPG Game Providers must have a project that lets people connect from different countries so people can enjoy playing p2p bet with it.

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I have played Binary trading in the past but it wasn't playing with another player AFAIR and I have no luck on that, therefore I would not play it again.
I'd rather bet on line like betting my money on sports betting, playing dice and roulette if I'm board as I can it anytime without needed for a schedule like the sports that I usually bet on.

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on February 10, 2020, 02:17:53 AM

There's a probability that these games will be incorporated with gambling in the future. That what I am looking forward to see in the next 5-10 years, because as technology get more advanced every year there's always a definite changes we experienced. However, our feelings will always matter along the way and we used to adopt it eventually.

Yes, it's possible and I remember some gambling website if I am not wrong it's called as decent.bet provides such features where you can bet on such games and play live. But being a complete newbie in such games I NEVER TRIED this website so please do your due diligence before you jump into betting there, I am just telling what I saw but I never tested it yet.

Quote from: michellee on February 10, 2020, 02:46:58 AM

someday I will try to play in the P2P betting site if I can have more money to gamble because right now, my focus is on how I can collect more and more bitcoin or some altcoin before the price starts to increase.

Surely you are not a gambler then because yes saving bitcoins is a good idea but gambling is something else, you always feel like making more and more.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I think the best example for p2p betting game site is the billiards or pool. I didn't know if that game really exist but it's good to have that kind of game. Since there are many people knows how to play billiards and they will put their bet and the winner takes all. Tho I think its better when it is a mobile game or a pc game and not just from a website.

Yes indeed those skill games are always great to play because luck can be selfish but your skills cannot be. I would say if there was some way of playing games like pubg, fortnite for bitcoins and win that would be really great. But that said, I do understand there are a lot of factors like there will always be hackers in the game so you need a solid anti-cheat system and you must make sure there are no ESP players and lot of other problems but then if someone can get these games done fairly, it would definitely be worth it.

Apart from skill games I love the dice PvP which I remember primedice brought but then it was closed down very soon for some unknown reason.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I think the best example for p2p betting game site is the billiards or pool. I didn't know if that game really exist but it's good to have that kind of game. Since there are many people knows how to play billiards and they will put their bet and the winner takes all. Tho I think its better when it is a mobile game or a pc game and not just from a website.

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Well, some of the most popular sites either for bitcoin or for even other dapps is not necessarily p2p. I know a couple of dice sites that get wagers in the millions every now and then and it is completely non p2p,,, so it is definitely about what makes people gamble, not so much that it pits players against players.

That's why there are some gamblers prefer to play with have a house edge because they are based on their luck. Compared to P2P, your opponent probably an experts players than you and it will become a small chance of winning. Probably that is the reason why the P2P gambling system won't survive and long last. Because sometimes also players did have the same time zone in playing, in short, P2P need more players to stay the site. Unless, if the site itself will make a bot that in favor of them. In this case, we should really know our opponent, a real human or a bot in P2P.

exactly mate and why need to find Online site to play p2p when you can just find an opponent near you?there are some friends,classmates,officemates family or even friends of friends that can be play with you ,and besides that is what happening in reality specially in countries where Gaming is part of daily living.like me i can play with someone in real life than looking for Gambling sites that offers this service.

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Interesting point. I guess peer-to-peer betting can just take place randomly or occasionally in regular casinos. Your point is likely one of the reasons there are few p2p betting. I guess many people are mindful of very skilled players. Watching people play before deciding to play with them is probably how others determine whether they can win a p2p challenge

Yes, that was really challenging to play with p2p because you are not fighting with the system to win. Your opponent is probably real and it might skilled players than yours. I was playing P2P games before when I was participating in the Fairpoker gambling platform, they had a telegram group so that you will know what most time the site has a player. Anyway, P2P is really good if there's a chatbox, you will know different gamblers via communicating them on chatbox in the gambling site.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 09, 2020, 01:50:07 AM

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Well, some of the most popular sites either for bitcoin or for even other dapps is not necessarily p2p. I know a couple of dice sites that get wagers in the millions every now and then and it is completely non p2p,,, so it is definitely about what makes people gamble, not so much that it pits players against players.

That's why there are some gamblers prefer to play with have a house edge because they are based on their luck. Compared to P2P, your opponent probably an experts players than you and it will become a small chance of winning. Probably that is the reason why the P2P gambling system won't survive and long last. Because sometimes also players did have the same time zone in playing, in short, P2P need more players to stay the site. Unless, if the site itself will make a bot that in favor of them. In this case, we should really know our opponent, a real human or a bot in P2P.

Interesting point. I guess peer-to-peer betting can just take place randomly or occasionally in regular casinos. Your point is likely one of the reasons there are few p2p betting. I guess many people are mindful of very skilled players. Watching people play before deciding to play with them is probably how others determine whether they can win a p2p challenge

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I am not playing the P2P betting site in the site you mention. I still prefer to gamble at the usual gambling site because I think I feel comfortable, and I can enjoy playing gambling in the general gambling site. But maybe, someday I will try to play in the P2P betting site if I can have more money to gamble because right now, my focus is on how I can collect more and more bitcoin or some altcoin before the price starts to increase.

Yes me too, I think it somehow being so boring to make a P2P game or gambling for only p2p ,in some games like RPG we can make it that one but in gambling is a no no for me. Sometimes the reason why I play with many people for me to observe their strategies in the game, different people different mindset , I think bettler is a good gambling site but lacks in some ideas.

I think when we can play at the usual gambling site, we can learn from their strategy, and sometimes that can help us to modify or make a new strategy that can work for us. You can gain another experience if you play with the other players because they will use many things to win.

But no matter what the gambling games type that you played, you need to control yourself so you can prevent the big loss in the money.

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Quote from: michellee on February 10, 2020, 02:46:58 AM

I am not playing the P2P betting site in the site you mention. I still prefer to gamble at the usual gambling site because I think I feel comfortable, and I can enjoy playing gambling in the general gambling site. But maybe, someday I will try to play in the P2P betting site if I can have more money to gamble because right now, my focus is on how I can collect more and more bitcoin or some altcoin before the price starts to increase.

Yes me too, I think it somehow being so boring to make a P2P game or gambling for only p2p ,in some games like RPG we can make it that one but in gambling is a no no for me. Sometimes the reason why I play with many people for me to observe their strategies in the game, different people different mindset , I think bettler is a good gambling site but lacks in some ideas.

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Well, some of the most popular sites either for bitcoin or for even other dapps is not necessarily p2p. I know a couple of dice sites that get wagers in the millions every now and then and it is completely non p2p,,, so it is definitely about what makes people gamble, not so much that it pits players against players.

That's why there are some gamblers prefer to play with have a house edge because they are based on their luck. Compared to P2P, your opponent probably an experts players than you and it will become a small chance of winning. Probably that is the reason why the P2P gambling system won't survive and long last. Because sometimes also players did have the same time zone in playing, in short, P2P need more players to stay the site. Unless, if the site itself will make a bot that in favor of them. In this case, we should really know our opponent, a real human or a bot in P2P.

but is that possible to know if your foe is a real human and not related to the site ? because its tough to beat them but your chance would be the same on a traditional gambling that arent p2p based . if you think your opponent is skillful why cant you become like them ? learn the stuff to become pro , i dont know if you still cant beat them later on . i see some few p2p based gambling here before but like what others said , few of them only survived and this few only got a small based players.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 09, 2020, 01:50:07 AM

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Well, some of the most popular sites either for bitcoin or for even other dapps is not necessarily p2p. I know a couple of dice sites that get wagers in the millions every now and then and it is completely non p2p,,, so it is definitely about what makes people gamble, not so much that it pits players against players.

That's why there are some gamblers prefer to play with have a house edge because they are based on their luck. Compared to P2P, your opponent probably an experts players than you and it will become a small chance of winning. Probably that is the reason why the P2P gambling system won't survive and long last. Because sometimes also players did have the same time zone in playing, in short, P2P need more players to stay the site. Unless, if the site itself will make a bot that in favor of them. In this case, we should really know our opponent, a real human or a bot in P2P.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 09, 2020, 01:50:07 AM

This is what also comes up in my mind that the best game for the gambling site that has a p2p system. Eventually, people didn't believe P2P because they dont know if your opponent is a real human or just a bot that made by the site. It might be that is the reason why BETLLER.IO stopped their campaign because only a few are like on the p2p system, unlike the usual sports betting.

Anyway, the question of OP has been discussed already here.

Well, some of the most popular sites either for bitcoin or for even other dapps is not necessarily p2p. I know a couple of dice sites that get wagers in the millions every now and then and it is completely non p2p,,, so it is definitely about what makes people gamble, not so much that it pits players against players.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I am not playing the P2P betting site in the site you mention. I still prefer to gamble at the usual gambling site because I think I feel comfortable, and I can enjoy playing gambling in the general gambling site. But maybe, someday I will try to play in the P2P betting site if I can have more money to gamble because right now, my focus is on how I can collect more and more bitcoin or some altcoin before the price starts to increase.

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Quote from: harizen on February 08, 2020, 02:54:50 PM

I haven't seen yet a P2P betting with the subject about binary trading or anything related to economics and market movements that become a success in the long-run or maybe I just missed those since I'm not really into that. We can assume that gamblers are not that interested at all to do a P2P form of betting at this type of betting game.

Generally, this form of betting is more appropriate in sports betting or strategy-based games such as chess or some board games, card games, RPG games or something along those lines.

There are no specific games that I would like to play in a P2P form of betting. If there's one and it got my attention, likely I will consider playing on that.

It is more fun to play with many unlike to play to another single player, so traditional casino wherein you will play with many and you will also have a large bet is more interesting , and there are some online casinos in the market as well. I think they need to add more features in their website to attract more people and gain many players as well.

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If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I would like to see some PVP site that offers some MOBA game play or some FPS,
We grow up playing Counter-Strike,DOTA and other kinds of PVP games so why not create something out of it.
Bring back some nostalgic feelings for us who grow up from this games.

There's a probability that these games will be incorporated with gambling in the future. That what I am looking forward to see in the next 5-10 years, because as technology get more advanced every year there's always a definite changes we experienced. However, our feelings will always matter along the way and we used to adopt it eventually.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (-snip-) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Well if that was binary trading, taking your word for it because I dont visit these sites at all, then it is not a P2P game. It is a another Market Vs Player game where you bet on the movements of a certain asset like bitcoin and predict its movements. It is basically another type of EV- gambling and is not comparable to the EV+ games out there like Poker and sports betting.

Point is that there is enough suspicion regarding these binary trading and options things to point them to be borderline scams. I am yet to find any honest person claiming that they made money from them unless they are getting paid to promote them.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Due to the reason of looking for quick results out of their gambling, P2P type of gambling is not getting famous. I have seen many simple games like mine sweeping and chess games under P2P mode but due to lack of support from the crypto community, now a days almost all the houses are doing them H2P mode. We need quick result so only houses will be available to play against us at any time.

For the same reason, dicing is more famous among this crypto community. It provides instant results and we play againts houses so our opponent is alwys waiting for us to begin with Wink

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Sportbetting must be kind of P2P but group VS group kind of thing. If I look for what P2P games, I am into right away means that is only sportsbetting alone.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I would like to see some PVP site that offers some MOBA game play or some FPS,
We grow up playing Counter-Strike,DOTA and other kinds of PVP games so why not create something out of it.
Bring back some nostalgic feelings for us who grow up from this games.

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I guess games where you can use you knowledge and skills as an advantage against other players. Most gambling games are all about luck and stuff. Something like arcades, racing and etc.

I am wondering if there are platforms here who cater setting a match for online games like dota, LOL, and other famous online games where players can bet on each other.

there was a competition last year i believe when Dota Players are Invited to make a Bet using Bitcoin, it was organized by one user and Escrow help so there will be no scam.

I can't find the thread about that competition but you can use this other thread as a reference on which games are you trying to find about Esports

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-do-you-think-about-gambling-and-e-sports-5172182

I think the answers from that thread are enough to give you an idea which and where to Bet, because for me? I can gamble with my FB friends if I want to play these online games.

Thank you for your reply. I have been looking for other gamblers who are also into online games and wondering if such bet exists in any platform.

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Quote from: Ailmand on February 09, 2020, 11:21:59 PM

I guess games where you can use you knowledge and skills as an advantage against other players. Most gambling games are all about luck and stuff. Something like arcades, racing and etc.

I am wondering if there are platforms here who cater setting a match for online games like dota, LOL, and other famous online games where players can bet on each other.

there was a competition last year i believe when Dota Players are Invited to make a Bet using Bitcoin,it was organized by one user and Escrow help so there will be no scam.

i can't find the thread about that competition but you can use this other thread as reference on which games are you trying to find about Esports

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-do-you-think-about-gambling-and-e-sports-5172182

i think the answers from that thread are enough to give you idea which and where to Bet,because for me?i can gamble with my FB friends if i want to play these online games.

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I guess games where you can use you knowledge and skills as an advantage against other players. Most gambling games are all about luck and stuff. Something like arcades, racing and etc.

I am wondering if there are platforms here who cater setting a match for online games like dota, LOL, and other famous online games where players can bet on each other.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I would definitely like to see more P2P Hold 'em poker, there are too sites offering this right now.

Would also be nice to see a P2P dice game, where several people throw dice and whoever gets the highest score wins the pot. I don't think I've seen a site offering a game like this despite it being pretty easy to implement.

Also, it would be sweet if a platform could make a P2P version of crash, seems like it could easy to add on given how the game works.

That sounds like a good shout, I don't think I have seen a platform that successfully implemented a PVP dice game.

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If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I would definitely like to see more P2P Hold 'em poker, there are too sites offering this right now.

Would also be nice to see a P2P dice game, where several people throw dice and whoever gets the highest score wins the pot. I don't think I've seen a site offering a game like this despite it being pretty easy to implement.

Also, it would be sweet if a platform could make a P2P version of crash, seems like it could easy to add on given how the game works.

I believe I've seen a p2p website that had dice, but I cannot find it right now, and it definitely was not one of the famous ones... It seems that while such games sound attractive in theory, people tend to prefer classical games on reputable websites... I've seen various websites trying to promote multiplayer games and offer some of them, but in the end, they die so fast that it's even hard to remember their names... As for crash, it seems that bustabit is offering players to play with each other. At least, that's what they claim on the website, although I only played crash on my own.

Where did you see this? Please do let me know if you find it as I would like to try it.

I don't see why a reputable website can't just add some PVP games, then we get the best of both worlds Grin

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If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I would definitely like to see more P2P Hold 'em poker, there are too sites offering this right now.

Would also be nice to see a P2P dice game, where several people throw dice and whoever gets the highest score wins the pot. I don't think I've seen a site offering a game like this despite it being pretty easy to implement.

Also, it would be sweet if a platform could make a P2P version of crash, seems like it could easy to add on given how the game works.

I believe I've seen a p2p website that had dice, but I cannot find it right now, and it definitely was not one of the famous ones... It seems that while such games sound attractive in theory, people tend to prefer classical games on reputable websites... I've seen various websites trying to promote multiplayer games and offer some of them, but in the end, they die so fast that it's even hard to remember their names... As for crash, it seems that bustabit is offering players to play with each other. At least, that's what they claim on the website, although I only played crash on my own.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on February 08, 2020, 04:41:05 PM

I actually thought that Betller had a real go at tapping into the p2p markets, but apparently it didn't fare well.

The main downfall of the majority of p2p betting sites are
a) their lack of liquidity, which means that people can't bet on impulse, which is why traditional casinos are so popular - the house is ALWAYS willing to take on your bet
and b) the house edge is reflected directly in a form of a cut, which people don't seem to like.

Anyhow, combining these two factors means that people with serious money won't ever visit these sites to play. Only games that fully address these two above criteria will ever succeed.

Actually, if only a gambling website could integrate some sort of edge-free p2p game I think it'd have a lot of traction. Of course, this way participants would have to also play some game with a house edge for the site to be feasible. But in a casino featuring many games this could be a nice attraction to attract more players to the main games.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Not a big fan of P2P gaming because of two reason

First, you do not know whether you are playing with a human or a bot and the second reason what happens when you do not find any opponent.

I am happy just the way casinos work for now.

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Quote from: bering on February 09, 2020, 01:30:43 AM

For p2p game i think the most often to played for me is poker but besides that i have been several times playing other games instead of poker such as paper, rock and scissor game but i think the most favourite for p2p game for me is poker

This is what also comes up in my mind that the best game for the gambling site that has a p2p system. Eventually, people didn't believe P2P because they dont know if your opponent is a real human or just a bot that made by the site. It might be that is the reason why BETLLER.IO stopped their campaign because only a few are like on the p2p system, unlike the usual sports betting.

Anyway, the question of OP has been discussed already here.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I'll probably spend more time on those that I can learn skills or experiences I can apply in real life.

Every casino should probably allow PvP gambling too... They could have platforms where those interested in PvP can play. It sounds more reasonable to combine popular types of gambling with PvP. This is probably how players who are interested in PvP gambling can find many interesting players to play with peer-to-peer.
I think I would play games that are related to what I am most interested in that earn me a living.

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 08, 2020, 10:36:17 PM

Something that's fast paced and easy to play would work, one hard part in making p2p gambling games succeed is to have active players or games up for most of the time so new users would be able to try them.

Quote from: magneto on February 08, 2020, 08:23:40 PM

I imagine that p2p products will only be attractive to players if/when there is some degree of house involvement. I.e., the house can match bets if there are nobody else taking the bet within 10 mins, etc.

Bitdouble did this when they had coinflips on their site, bots would automatically create games and wait for users to match their bets. Unfortunately they closed down after having issues with their site.

Yep.

I find that a lot of csgo gambling sites are extremely popular, and are mostly p2p oriented. Yet bitcoin counterparts that offer the same types of games struggle.

It honestly comes down to somewhat of a foul play by the house - I wouldn't doubt that over half of the more popular csgo gambling sites either had insiders betting on coinflips or had bots join them when nobody else would, essentially bridging the liquidity gap.

Of course, there's a conflict of interest there and it's hard to justify. But punters find this attractive, some how.

Also, the game mode is extremely important - something like coinflips are extremely popular while something like binary options that takes a while and is relatively slow doesn't fare as well.

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For p2p game i think the most often to played for me is poker but besides that i have been several times playing other games instead of poker such as paper, rock and scissor game but i think the most favourite for p2p game for me is poker

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For P2P games to be successful, they'd have to be much more engaging in terms of the gaming experience. Betting is not a gaming experience. Its more about the individual's adrenaline rush coming from putting something on stake for an instantaneous reward.

P2P on the other hand needs to be about the rush of winning over another human player or even a bot if the game lends itself to a fair enough algorithm. The rush of winning also comes from the game experience itself like in the visually and mentally engaging online strategy games like DoTA, WoW or fight games like Mortal Kombat. If you can wager on the outcome and call that P2P betting, it'd be fine. Other than that, P2P feels redundant against normal betting systems.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Am I the only one thinking that the binary trading betting site is a wise idea that I would play it over days, The only thing they missed is the traffic and the players they would have encouraged to play, It is a good gambling site but it awfully decline every time I play before so I stopped. That's the start of my love on playing p2p gambling site, I would like to try a new gambling site with new Ideas on a p2p battle, I played gambling once in a while now and trying to beat the house edge is some sort of boring to play with.

I've seen some p2p gambling games before, I remember a racing game before a p2p game, But the structure of the game is bad that I would not play it. Hoping that someone will make a p2p gambling site with a lot of traffic, Traffic is the one needed on that kind of gambling site.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

Strictly board games like checkers, Scrabble and some card games. Those are the peer2peer games I'm mostly familiar with and can play with an assurance of winning 99% of the time surfer the game is free and fair. Still don't understand why peer2peer games hasn't become a household name in the gambling industry most especially within the cryptocurrency gambling enthusiast.

Personally I prefer this kind of games to the usual in the casino, offline within my peers we engage with this kind of games and place bets which can be in a form of a tournament or each games are been bet on, where the winner wins the initial bet while others can bet on who's likely to win.

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I would love skilled games over luck, like how about 8 Ball pool? Or chess or carrom. I would really love to bet my money against another player's skills with my skills as that would be a real game which wouldn't stand on just basis of pure luck.

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Something that's fast paced and easy to play would work, one hard part in making p2p gambling games succeed is to have active players or games up for most of the time so new users would be able to try them.

Quote from: magneto on February 08, 2020, 08:23:40 PM

I imagine that p2p products will only be attractive to players if/when there is some degree of house involvement. I.e., the house can match bets if there are nobody else taking the bet within 10 mins, etc.

Bitdouble did this when they had coinflips on their site, bots would automatically create games and wait for users to match their bets. Unfortunately they closed down after having issues with their site.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

So far, I have played only P2P in poker as I usually gamble in poker in my free time but with regards to binary trading site like Betller I haven't tried it so far.

But if I have plenty of free time in the future, I would love to venture to another type of betting especially if they have P2P games as it is very exciting on how you are going to beat your opponent. I ventured Bettler a little as I am curious on how I can play to it and it seems that it is very easy to play, It is only high or low basing the base price of bitcoin with a certain time limit like 5 minutes.

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Card games and maybe poker will be really popular.

But I do agree that I want to play a RPG. I am not a fan of strategic games and other card games so RPG and poker would be my vote. I think other people would be interested in that too.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

If it is about binary trading, I wouldn't get myself involved in it. I'd rather do it on an exchange. Well, that is still like gambling in a way, although with a much more dependable liquidity as compared to a P2P betting site.

There are many gambling games that could actually be played P2P with a lot of fun. I don't know why it didn't get much attention and support. Poker, for example, is a good game played P2P. Other board games, simple games, and strategy-oriented games are fine as well. You could play the old school games such as heads or tail and Rock, Paper, and Scissor. Chess has been mentioned already. We could also have 8-balls pool.

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Probably card games, strategy games. Mostly strategic ones. But honestly, it isn't suitable for gambling as a p2p game. If they made it as a tournament format with some kind of entry fee, it might go well, but as a p2p gambling feature, it isn't that attractive.

Houses probably need to fix their implementation of the p2p feature before it becomes a successful breakthrough though. That's mostly the problem with most p2p, and any other fix should be done only after that is resolved. As for other problems, I'd say they need to check how it goes after the fix with the house before looking for others though.

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I wouldn't say that Betller is a complete failure - they had an interesting concept (going back to secondstrade days) and actually had quite good customer service and responsiveness compared to other BTC p2p gambling sites.

They just need to refine their product though.

I imagine that p2p products will only be attractive to players if/when there is some degree of house involvement. I.e., the house can match bets if there are nobody else taking the bet within 10 mins, etc.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 08, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

I would definitely like to see more P2P Hold 'em poker, there are too sites offering this right now.

Would also be nice to see a P2P dice game, where several people throw dice and whoever gets the highest score wins the pot. I don't think I've seen a site offering a game like this despite it being pretty easy to implement.

Also, it would be sweet if a platform could make a P2P version of crash, seems like it could easy to add on given how the game works.

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Quote from: milewilda on February 08, 2020, 05:10:48 PM

Quote from: hello_good_sir on February 08, 2020, 04:41:05 PM

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Just like what happened on Betinance as well where these option like p2p betting doesnt seem look attractive to gamblers.If i were to say it is much more better to trade rather than
tying up trading to gambling.Predicting prices would be good if they do just directly made up on a specific platform not on a betting site. Do you agree? Your sentiments are indeed valid and precise.

Yeah, I would say that a lot of traders who are interested in leveraging their investments are already able to do so on margin trading platforms such as Bitmex, which have much higher liquidity and up to 100x leverage.

If they were indeed interested in this form of financial gambling, there is no reason to use a platform like Betller when there are much better alternatives around.

With that said, there is probably room for a lot of p2p sportsbooks to exist and thrive, as demonstrated by the success of Fairlay and others.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on February 08, 2020, 04:41:05 PM

I actually thought that Betller had a real go at tapping into the p2p markets, but apparently it didn't fare well.

The main downfall of the majority of p2p betting sites are
a) their lack of liquidity, which means that people can't bet on impulse, which is why traditional casinos are so popular - the house is ALWAYS willing to take on your bet
and b) the house edge is reflected directly in a form of a cut, which people don't seem to like.

Anyhow, combining these two factors means that people with serious money won't ever visit these sites to play. Only games that fully address these two above criteria will ever succeed.

Just like what happened on Betinance as well where these option like p2p betting doesnt seem look attractive to gamblers.If i were to say it is much more better to trade rather than
tying up trading to gambling.Predicting prices would be good if they do just directly made up on a specific platform not on a betting site. Do you agree? Your sentiments are indeed valid and precise.

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Quote from: harizen on February 08, 2020, 02:54:50 PM

Generally, this form of betting is more appropriate in sports betting or strategy-based games such as chess or some board games, card games, RPG games or something along those lines.

I have thought of card games and sportsbetting quickly upon reading the question. And we knew it that poker is one of it and the system that most sportsbook does is like that.
I want to see more of an RPG game which have its own gambling platform for P2P bets and accepts crypto.

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I actually thought that Betller had a real go at tapping into the p2p markets, but apparently it didn't fare well.

The main downfall of the majority of p2p betting sites are
a) their lack of liquidity, which means that people can't bet on impulse, which is why traditional casinos are so popular - the house is ALWAYS willing to take on your bet
and b) the house edge is reflected directly in a form of a cut, which people don't seem to like.

Anyhow, combining these two factors means that people with serious money won't ever visit these sites to play. Only games that fully address these two above criteria will ever succeed.

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I haven't seen yet a P2P betting with the subject about binary trading or anything related to economics and market movements that become a success in the long-run or maybe I just missed those since I'm not really into that. We can assume that gamblers are not that interested at all to do a P2P form of betting at this type of betting game.

Generally, this form of betting is more appropriate in sports betting or strategy-based games such as chess or some board games, card games, RPG games or something along those lines.

There are no specific games that I would like to play in a P2P form of betting. If there's one and it got my attention, likely I will consider playing on that.

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If you have noticed recently there was promotion about the P2P betting site related to binary trading (BETLLER.IO) it was stopped already and I guess only few are playing against each other. I have not see other p2p gambling sites but what sort of games do you think will work for p2p that you think you will play?

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