Topic: What programming language to learn? (Read 2348 times)

fortran cuz i need to learn it...

I started with C to learn the real basics and after i while i moved on to C++
but i still do some programming in C, just because it's real fun

I'm a Java developer and recently I have been integrating Java applications into a ColdFusion Wheels framework. So far so good

Good choice! With PHP and Python you wont ever die
There is always a job for PHP and Python devs.

And I think in next 5 years Python will be no1

Google, Nasa, Youtube ... do not have to say more

I'm learning php and phython. 

Php and JavaScript and familiarity with python and Django

Probably JavaScript is a language that's good to learn

No matter what, I would learn Python.
From there, if you want to do web apps, Javascript and Ruby would be good to know.
If you'd rather make desktop applications, you should learn C, which can be used on all platforms. You might like Java, which also works on all platforms, but some such as myself strongly dislike.

Start at the bottom.  Learn assembly language.  Then learn C.  Then golang/C++/Java/Scala. Learn some scripting languages: Bash, Python, Perl. 

PHP and Javascript are the most useful

Get familiar with R-on-R

Exactly the one which suits your future plans !!

web developing : php  htlm asp .net etc

Coding : Perl python ruby c

exploits writing : perl python ruby assembly hexing

so decide what you want to do maybe android development or anything. good luck   

Cause they re not.

But I am more than 100000% sure, that you can make wonderful and no bugged exchange in Python language.

Python is most amazing language I ever learnt.

To learn programming I would recommend proce55ing (processing.org).
It should be called 'Visual Java'...
One cool thing about it is that is very visual and you can see straight away the result of applying small changes to the code. Pretty much like cooking, where you change the portions of a recipe and get a different result.
I think proce55ing is indeed the closer programming can get to cooking.
Play around with examples and code from openprocessing.org
It is great to learn Object Oriented programming and everything.
And it is actually much more powerful that you could think of it looking at a first glance, because of things like Arduino and stuff. It is definitely not a toy language! Take it seriously to take your programming skills to the top level. 

Didn't realize any of those were crypto exchanges

PYTHON !!!!!!

Python Django.


#Nasa
#Google
#Youtube
#Future
#Simplicity

I don't know about you but after some research i decided to go with PHP/MYSQL , CSS, Java/Jquery .

C#, hands down 

Node.js is server side javascript. It doesn't need an apache server to route calls to it as it is the webserver itself. It answers directly to the port 80 calls. PHP is a seperate thing which gets called every time apache gets hit. This has two side effects:

* A startup and a tear down delay for every server hit.
* No memory of previous interactions. Php starts a new process every time, so you have to re-establish file connections, db connection and all info. Theoretically you could maintain all app data in the app memory in node.js and just save to a db to keep the memory load lower and to deal with if/when the server restarts having something to recover from.

Some things to be concerned about with node.js:

* An error anywhere in the app could make all routes go down ... php might have an issue on an individual page, but it won't cause an issue on other pages.
* Shared memory and continuous running node process can present an issue if your code has memory leaks - objects accumulating, but never being destroyed.
* Javascript can lead to a lot of potential complexity and bad programming styles could create a very very nasty to debug code ball - especially when considering the possibilities of async coding.
* PHP class system, similar to programming in Java is nice for large teams with various coding skill levels as it provides more structure. This slows things down, but it also leads to less chaos.

I love node.js myself, and try to use it in every project I can, but it is not all roses. Or maybe it is, but the thorns can really get you if you don't handle it well.

Javascript,Python if you're just looking to get started and have some fun. Plenty of free tutorials available online as well for these two.

I'll take a look and research a bit of it and I might just give it a go.

Its javascript, so you need to learn javascript to use it. Personally, I prefer javascript to PHP but others will prefer PHP. I wouldn't say one is easier to learn than the other. But if you can learn PHP, you can certainly learn javascript no problem at all.

is node.js similar to PHP is it easy to learn or is it a lot more difficult?

I have been a web programmer for well over 15 years, so here are my 2mBTC

Python: Fun easy language to learn, but it is not web-centric. It is great if you are building some independent desktop app (many BTC wallets use python), but I after learning it, I never really had much practical use for it web wise.

PHP: The ultimate in web languages for a very long time. It allows you to be a pretty sloppy programmer and still get something up on the web, and if you are a disciplined and advanced programmer, you can build a major website. PHP is what I would recommend to anyone who is a newb that just totally wants to get the job done. Using a framework like codeigniter is also helpful in making a more maintainable site. Upside: there are a lot of php jobs out there. Downside: there are even more php programmers. They are a dime a dozen, and the pay isn't great. One potential upside: there are some libraries to interact with Bitcoin APIs.

Ruby on Rails: Learned it, built the basic blog stuff from tutorials, but I dislike the whole idea of scaffolding and code generating code. It seems if you want to build anything that is not straight-forward you are in for pain.

Java: I know it backwards and forwards and built some crazy stuff with it. That said, I absolutely refuse to program in it. It is way too structured, incredibly slow to develop in, and induces carpal tunnel in people who code in it (too f'n verbose). Upside: You can develop native apps for android in it. (checkout phonegap though if you want to just use html/js/css)

Node.js: A really nice development environment that reminds me of coding in scheme back in college. It is functional, so you have to deal with deep callback stacks effectively. This will be hard at first, and you will need some discipline to not create a nasty code ball. It has the best darn module system around, and reminds me of the best of python regarding modules. You will be using javascript on the front and back end here. Theoretically this means that you will reuse some of the same code on both sides. Realistically, this doesn't happen much, but it is nice not needing to change mental gears between client and server programming. Node.js programmers are in demand now too.

C++: Really, don't bother. We are moving to an interpreted code world and unless you are working on something that needs the speed, this isn't needed. Even if you do need the speed, use python and on the very speed dependent things you can squeeze some c modules in there. Upside: Just a step away from Objective C so you can do some iOS native apps (checkout phonegap though if you want to just use html/js/css)

.NET: Pretty much Java, but on the MS stack. Expect to need to know a lot about libraries and such. It is good for getting jobs, but I try not to touch anything in the MS stack.

Flash: No. It is on its way to the dustbin of history, and good riddance.

TL;DR: Php if you just want to learn enough to get some stuff done. Node.js if you want to take yourself to the next level.

Any web designer who doesn't already know most CSS by heart is just a wannabe. CSS is a prerequisite for being at least mediocre.

I would say CSS is a popular one among web designers too it might be worth learning that.

I am asking for a friend.  She was a professional programmer in the business world for 21 years and has just been out of the game for a bit.  She has been planning to get started on Java and I just wanted to get a heads up and see what you guys had to say.

So it looks like Java, Javascript, and PHP all the way.  

You guys are awesome  

Thank you MakeBelieve and everyone else.

Did I miss something? You want to open an exchange, but you don't even know a suitable language? Don't do it, or you will be slaughtered.

A majority of the web is made in PHP.
A majority of the web is terrible.
The relationship is partly causal.

Learn PHP if you want easy job access.
Stay away from proprietary trash like Flash or that ColdFusion thing.
Since JavaScript is not optional for the web, you might as well go JS all the way.

Referring to your peers online as "plebs" is quite standard for nerds of a certain caliber. Consider it a badge of honor.

Also, CF forever.

depends on what you wanna do.

if you're pragmatic, you'd learn one of the popular languages.

not everything is shiny in the "real world" though, there are many problems in software development, many of today's languages will be legacy in a couple of years, just like COBOL.

if you're a technical guy close to the machine, i recommend to stick to low-level languages, like C, or even Assembler.

if you want to model the real world, I believe OOP is a dead-end, and (pure) functional programming languages will be the future, i.e. Haskell, Clojure, Scheme, etc, as they allow to write very concise code by letting you specify the "What" rather than the "How".

well you could always use

lol. We got forced to learn that at school for a term. Even then we were saying wtf is this???

Learn COBOL, much less competition

Nice to describe forum members as "plebs". I used ColdFusion in 2000. That was probably CF at its peak. People have moved on since then.

One of the things that I like about ColdFusion (and use) is how easy it is to hook up with Java libraries, both your own and third party. Of course, you need to make some tight interfaces, otherwise it can all go to shit.

Some people make the observation that the tag syntax is similar. You might like it - the only obstacle is that CFML isn't open-source. You can download a developer's version for free, but to run a commercial server takes a license from Adobe, which still runs at over $1,000 per machine.

For this reason usually it's web-design companies that use it.. that and it makes it easy to create templated designs and rapidly set up sites.

I've never heard of it maybe I should take a look but I'm familar with PHP so php looks easier to me 

The easiest web-programming language on Earth to learn.

Which of the following makes more sense?

Hello World

'; ?>

or

Hello World


Even a person who doesn't program knows it makes more sense to output data in output tags. The whole language pretty much follows that logic. Set variables with , upload files with , create form fields with ...

Great language for beginners. Very versatile, lots of documentation online.

For one I have never heard of that what is it what makes it so good?

What's wrong with you plebs not mentioning ColdFusion?

Ok so with the Primary goal being to create a very good multicoin interactive exchange.  You guys say javascript and php?  Skip regular java?  My friend wanted to start with Java, would transitioning to javascript after getting it down be a smooth experience?

C++ isn't used on websites as much as people think in fact only small snippets of code are C++ and that's only because it's faster.

And the most hardcore to learn and especially to master.
JavaScript is probably a goto language now days... also node.js seems legit too

Defnitely C++

it's the most common, and the mostly used code there is

C++ and Java are OOP based. That's what makes them "difficult" Python is a script-based language. So yeah, for scripting, python is easier. As for what most exchanges are programmed in, its probably PHP as 95% of websites are programmed in PHP.

Yea but I think Python is a good language to learn the basics of programming. After learning Python, you can learn other languages much easier. I believe it's quite difficult to go straight to C++, Java etc.

The question isn't complete. It should be "If I want to achieve A,B,C what language should I learn?" You can't just ask "what programming language to learn". The devil is all in the detail of what you want to achieve.

It's suppose to be good but I don't think you can use it on web sites much.

If you are new to programming I would recommend Python. That's what I've been practising lately and I have heard it's a good first language

С++

I've never seen it written as two words before - looks weird.

Java script!

PHP, .js, HTML5 / CSS3

That's true - with deep knowledge of those you can always get a job that pays well.

I think you can have some libaries and convert them but I don't think they are useful for websites.

Cool.  What about ruby, python, or c?

PHP, java script and html pretty much all websites have one of these implemented.

What languages are a lot of common exchanges usually in?  Pools as well.