Topic: What to make of the situation if members such as "xbartoni" receive no merits? (Read 159 times)

I am adding him to my ignore list, I wanted to wait until after reading what other nonsense he will spout.

I agree, distrust and ignore should suffice. To be clear, the thread more about the members that usually throw merits towards posts and posters that in-turn encourages the account farmers to create more accounts. In this case (keeping aside obvious low quality posts), I am satisfied they seem to be careful not to send merits to accounts that have posts designed to seek merits in order to increase their rank.

Mostly they are the main target from Scammer as they are dont aware that all that Scamshit also be a big thing when it comes to and with Crypto.

There was for sure some attempts in the past on my end and also some other long time Members was fallen into some of the traps of them.
Specially when it comes to download or update a Miner Software or some Wallet Software.
I myself was a victim many years ago of a wallet update that has cost me all my funds and all of my other things got hacked.
Thats why i fight so intense against them that this not will be happen to others as it happend to me.

Just as LoyceV have done it , but him on ignore and also distrust him should be doing the Work.
There are to much Users like him that you have to be worrie , just set an cut line on it and move on.

The Merit system is working as it's designed I put the user on ignore after reading this post:
Most of it is kinda true, but it's too generic to add to any discussion. It makes me think he posts for the sake of posting or earning Merit, not because he has anything useful to say.

On the surface the post are definitely of low quality and that explains the lack of merits but maybe the other aspect is some members (myself included) sometimes spot the signs that indicate alt-accounts/farmed-accounts and decide to not merit posts regardless of any potential positive quality when the specific intention of the author was to get to a higher member rank.

I think giving merits to dubious accounts only helps to fuel their drive to create more accounts and possibly use some of them for nefarious conduct.

It is one of many that is doing the same thing but no harm in waiting to see if the account operator makes some posts first and what the content of the posts are.

I try  

Most of them can be seen now as content writers, today  they're giving newbies advice, tomorrow they are like a total newbie, all that matters for them is the merit. They are often concerned about learning, only getting merit and so creating threads upon thread with no reply, even it is necessary.

Account like this often just shows their desperation for ranking up and even if they are making quality posts and earning merit but the fact that they're not replying in the same thread, if need be, will make many members of the forum not bother replying their threads or may even ignore them totally.  Although they likely will continue to get replies but more likely from others who have noticed this or those trying to complete post counts.

I'm sure you can see and differentiate who is new to the forum and who is not. As for this account, it won't be a revelation when you can say with certainty that the account is an alternative. His "holes" in the posts indicate that he has heard about investing in Bitcoin. However, the stupid question in the first post about profit, and applying the DCA strategy a few days later, just exposes his claim that he is a newbie. It's funny to see his posts where, as usual, many merits are given out. I'm sure that this bunch of people, diligently chewing the DCA strategy for six hundred pages, have collected a decent alternative farm, and it is simply useless for us to refuse to give merits to such characters since they sense such sweet spots in the distributions better than anyone.

However if you read both posts, there is clearly paraphrasing. And this behavior is present throughout the entire 600-page thread.

That's right. I wouldn't put too much thought into this. If he does not receive merits I guess he will get tired and disappear from the forum. And if it's an alt account, worse for him because I don't think he has achieved anything with the other account(s) he has.


Just leave it alone IMO.

He has not received merit not because of his trust/history was tracked or not. He has not received merit because he is posting what are not worthy of merit. If he started to post something good and convincing using this same account, you will see people giving him merit. I have noticed how some newbies started on this forum and guess they are alt, but they received merit fast. I may be wrong but I guess so when they are posting what newbies can not just have known, but instead they received merit for their quality posts.

I have seen far too many accounts doing the same thing but today I decided to pick one out and post about it. I noticed a thread created by "xbartoni" with the name Is the newbie just being scammed by scammers? therefore had a look as my immediate inclination was alt-account or farmed account even before viewing the thread.

Are newbies only being scammed by scammers?

And are those who have been involved in the forum for a long time also being scammed?

I saw in a headline that it is not only newbies, but also senior people in the forum can be cheated, if they are not careful.
So my question is why is it being said that only newbies are being cheated, I hope you can help me find out.

xbartoni asked that question on 14th November 2024 and then made a second post on 15th November and in the subsequent period did not post again. He has been posting in other threads in the interim trying to get merits because obviously he was not going to receive any merits for the above thread (unless it was from any account he was potentially controlling).

A further look at his post history shows the very first post he made after becoming a member was creating a thread to ask "What should a newbie do in bitcoin investing?" and that question had a significant amount of importance that he made one more post there (which was his second overall post) and did not post again. Why on earth would a real genuine member with genuine curiosity for the question he asked not be interested in maintaining the conversation to gain more knowledge/tips/advice unless he really was putting on a facade and had no interest in the first place except to pretend to be a newbie.

In my opinion, even if concrete evidence is not there that this is an alt-account or farmed account, all the giveaway signs are there.

I am pleased the account has not received a single merit thus far and hope that all members try whenever possible to check some of the trust/history of an account before giving merits as that is the essential factor that drives them in their mission to build as many accounts as possible which could lead to nefarious conduct.

What to make of the situation if members such as "xbartoni" receive no merits? It is an improvement and I think it could be a very good turning point that will improve the forum. Do you share my opinion?