Topic: What were you told about the slave trade. (Read 312 times)

I had previously heard the story of one of the most famous Ottoman slaves a Venetian boy named Pargali Ibrahim Pasha, who became the Grand Vizier of the Empire and Governor of Egypt. He remained a slave until his death, but he was so powerful and influential within the empire that he actually moved his biological parents from Venice to live with him in his palatial residence in Constantinople.

I agree. But then, too much money have been put in place so that Africans will not learn about history so as to remain dump up in the head about them past and history. Like how do you know about your history when you read and listen to the stories of the people who invaded Africa?

Sad part of it is that, the media. ( CNN & BBC  ) will never carry up news like this and I'm not worried nor surprised. People should know and learn that there's always been African history until slavery kicked off, but they cannot know about all these if they do learn.

Could the picture be the current day Congo? With millions of people killed, Children dying out of hunger, mineral resources exploited, while citizens are forced to work for NGOs? Families Dehomed?

What about Sudan? How about Libya?  I see most people taking all they believe from the media is and it's not safe.

Without the mineral resources exploited in Congo...most of these gadget production companies will be no more. Why aren't we praying for Congo, Sudan, and also funding them?..... Has the so called United Nations been able to solve any of these? Lol.

Well, many stories were told that I don't even know what to believe, some say slave trade start when the foreigners came to visit us and they promised us to give them what we have and they will take some of our to the outside country, that is to say ' they train by bather ', so that is how it started. While some told me that, they were kidnap and that some of the Africans were into human trafficking which most of our forces are also part of it, I heard some many stories how slave trading get started which I don't really know which one is true.

What is the connection of the issues you are wondering about?

I want to pose a nonsense to you that my answer to your problem will help stop the storm in America?

The problem of the slave trade is social, human morality is driven by greed and desire for control.

But I still want to go back to the point that you should be more specific in your opinion about bringing up such a vague topic.

Yes despite that slave trade has been abolished and can't be practiced, I doubt if there is a total sanity in the system as slave trade still exist in another form as the world is changing so is different techniques is been adopted, just that the magnitude to which this occurred can't be compared in the past, slave trade is Avery painful one , it's still have it's symptoms in our world today example some person engage in convincing fellow human to take them for work and guest what the work is nothing but prostitution, adopting of children and selling all this still have it root as slave trade, as most of this activity still happening in most of the third world countries even in the developed countries still practice it because most the people for prostitution are sent across theirs cities.

I think that's only because we have created a Sense of superiority over our minds for the people of west. They are not that much good because they have destroyed their living and family system. Their women's are almost unaware of the word loyalty and they have extra martial affairs.

Now exceptions are always there but if we talk about the majority of the people then these statements are almost correct.

In my country slavery if taught From a very historial perspective and how it played a role in the development of the country during the colonial era, when we were under the rule of Spain. We also learnt on how the process of the abolishing slavery went through and the ideas of those who supported it helped our society to be more just and equal, regardless of your color of skin and the place of origin.
We also received some classes on modern slavery and how still people is forced to work against their will even in these times where many of us take our freedom for granted.

As part of our education we had to sereach about the inhumane conditions some children from India are supposed to work under, managing dangerous chemical products and receiving no pay, since they were trying to cancel debts acquired by their own family in the past. The concept of slavery in Asia and some African countries seems to be very bonded with credit and credit traps. 

Slave trade is now a thing of the past and we are no longer expecting something like that to ever occur again, this was done in the past during the time where things were not civilized and the rate of peoples exposures are very low, also high international dependencies have caused all these to happen then because many have to depend on the other countries to survive through their own economy.

Well, for 1 thing slavery has existed in ALL cultures and races throughout human history in at least one point in time. It was not just a European vs African thing. Since we are here it should also be pointed out that the Europeans did not just go out into the jungles of Africa with nets to catch black slaves: The vast majority of them were captured by - drum roll please - rival African tribes who sold them to the Europeans so stop blaming only 'the white man' for it. The Europeans just provided a much larger market for the slavers to ply their reprehensible trade. There is plenty of blame to be shared all around.

maybe this fact seems to be painful for many women in asia, especially in the asean region, because to be honest, there are many women here who are willing to become 'modern slaves' to white people to be able to have mulatto children with better privileges. i know that it's just one way for a woman to get a better life, but even so, it's not much different from 'slaves' like in the past, where they had to give birth, do all the work at home, and then die, just to be able to marry a white person and have the same privileges as them. they just don't care whether it's an old man aged 50 or 60 with 5 children, the most important thing is that they can marry a white person.

There are still many coal mines where a large number of laborers work whose lives are neither valued nor afforded any benefits in life. It hurts to say that people are working as slaves for people. Some are coal mine owners and others are coal miners. Coal miners risk their lives to work for the miners who in turn sell their coal for money. Slaves work because of which coal is produced from the mines and that coal is sold by the mine owners to various businesses which in turn make their profits, it certainly plays an important role in the national and global economy

No one will be saying hey, white dude come and rape me!

There are countries that promote sex tourism but it is only as a result that there is no other means of survival so they are ready for what people made them do.

I don't believe slavery ended, it's been existing in different ways that we call jobs and get paid in salary, which resembles right.

modern slavery is not a movie nor a movie with university caps on their head edited in...
its not even internships/voluntary programs..

modern slavery is actual slavery in modern times

The most illogical question I have ever read on this forum is your congrats!

If you need to know the definition of slave trade or how it is processed you can definately go to any AI platform and ask it about the queries you have what's the point of discussion here? Be relevant to the topics please so that maximum benefit can be taken out of this platform.

Talking about the context, slave trade is an abuse mostly when underdeveloped countries suffer from unnecessary punishment and abuse, I will consider slave trade as something human nature should have forbidden but rather they embraced the act. Although I’m not a historian so I can’t go dip into ancient slave trade, concerning economy growth I can’t identify the least development slave trade impacted on the nation economy rather it’s as a result of blame and freedom nothing else from my opinion. The production of natural resources will still exist, natural resources and development will definitely function with or without slave trade but, families and countries who participated in slave trade benefited a lot in terms of exchange and trade in return for hard work and labour when both parties gain. All what I learnt about slave trade in recent time is slave trade has no valid impact

A lot of countries are still suffering from these you just mentioned.
A lot companies that are based in some countries under pay there workers turning them to slaves and the workers can't do anything because of the high rate of unemployment in that country even the government of that country is not even doing anything about it.

In every country the government should include a minimum wage that should be paid to worker in every sector of the country be it public or private establishment and that wage should be reasonable and good for the workers.

Saying slave trade has an economy impact, it's likely to inciting continuation over it which it had long ago been abolished.
You can't afford to sacrifice lives for an economy impact. That's selfishness because in the captivity processes of the slave readings, men and women were maltreated, punished and lives were also lost on the process so I don't think if any good can be accounted out such criticism.

The only good thing out of it is that it created diverses of cultures and had brought about justifications and equalizations and varieties of humanitarian exploits.

The slave trade caused immense pain & suffering to millions of people. It contributed to economic growth in certain regions but this growth was built on the oppression & exploitation of enslaved people. Recognising the historical impact of the slave trade allows us to acknowledge the catastrophic turmoil, pain & suffering it caused & work towards a more fair & inclusive world.

I think we as the human race has learned lessons from the past, but some countries are still exploiting humans for profit.

I recently read something about modern companies like Shein and Temu, sourcing goods from cheap labour areas and how these people are exploited in Southeast Asia.

How are this hurting the global economy? Well the global market are flooded with very cheap clothing and local garment workers are losing their jobs and companies are going bankrupt.

The worst thing is the conditions of employment of those workers and the quality of their lives and how it impact their families. 

Slave is bad, but some girls get benefit from it.

Slave mostly happens in Africans and Asians, the Asian girls don't mind raped by "White people" because their baby will be mixed with "White people", they have a privilege than the pure Asians.

Yep, with so many old generations giving births, now many young people didn't get paid enough.

Right now, young people need to have experience before going to work which they get from unpaid internship or volunteer program. The modern slavery is "lighter" than old slavery since you didn't get physically attacked.

What is your actual question here, I mean slave trading is forbidden in most of countries at least that's what I thought. I know there are still many countries where people are trading slaves, but that's known as kidnapping, where smugglers kidnap people and move them to other countries for slave or other purposes, especially the females. But the question here is how it can be helpful for the world economy in any way.

I mean they are not paying taxes to countries, they are not benefiting to the country directly or indirectly I am talking about slave traders, not slaves. So how this can help a country to make money or the world economy to make money? I say this should not happen and people should be given free will. Although in my country there are areas deep into the country where chieftaincy runs. People are not allowed to marry any girl outside the tribe. If a person wants to study in big cities there father had to become slaves of the chief and will remain slaves until the boy does not return from his studies if he does not return then the father remains the slave forever.

I won't say its slave trading but if seen closer it is also a type of trading slave, means for the freedom of son studies father have to trade himself for slave. Overalll this should be stopped

The slave trade definitely brought economic gains to the wicked Africans that were selling their brothers and sisters to the slave marchants, who also gained by selling their marchandise (the slaves) to the rich people that needed them to work in their plantations and every other dehumanizing works. So slave trade brought economic prosperity to the people and countries were these slaves were taken to go and worked as human machines, and I believe that one of the reasons why slave trade stopped was because of the era of industrial revolution, then racial segregation era began, and  spilled into racisms still exists till today.

Fucked up topic if you'll have to ask me, but let me chip in since my ancestors are sold into slavery as well and I feel like I have a say in this topic.

The thing is that, the only ones that are really able to benefit out of the forced labor that they implemented against the people of old times are the countries who facilitated these slave trades as well. America was founded in the blood, sweat and tears of the Locals, and the Africans that they shipped to the states, since then it became the capitalist's paradise but at the end of the day, the dreams it sold to the people only benefited whites, or privileged people who gained power through the decades benefiting from the same abuse that their ancestors suffered from.

The Philippines is a good example too, while you could say that we are far better being more urbanized than if we remained unconquered by the Spaniards, they haven't really implemented that much into us besides the centuries of abuse and Christianity, the rest we got from the US who also colonized us mind you.

So yeah, Slavery is not helpful in any way whatsoever, and even if it was, it doesn't justify you treating someone like they are below you.

The thread is not a bad one since he asked a historical economic question and it might be interesting to discuss. My only reservation is that it is very scanty. You can always use the report to moderator button if you think it is not worth discussing.

it is the history of the past that shapes the present economy of many nations. Most of the money people and government made from slavery was used to build big cities and sponsored many inventions and scientific research in many European and American higher institutions. Income from slave trading also gave birth to big businesses that still exist. All these viable utilization of these human and financial resources contributed to the economic development of these nations.

Let me also add that the slave trade also had some economic advantages for Africans. It also led to the establishment of big cities and it also led to the Introduction of certain food crops which is currently assisting some countries earn foreign currency.

this is not a history lesson.. modern slavery happens now...

humanitarian ethics: slave trade is bad

economically:
for instance using underpaid/unpaid labour in the cobalt mines
for instance using underpaid/unpaid labour in the fashion sweat shops
for instance using underpaid/unpaid labour in the big-agri farms

leads to cheap products to make other regions/nations more profit so economically keeps products cheap to avoid major inflation whilst still making profit, which leads to good economics of avoiding inflation

..
as we all see all around the world now
when paying the poor a fair wage, it results in inflation of goods. which causes bad economics

slave trade is both... helpful to world economics and brought pain and sorrow to people


as for the topic name
we are educated about the pain and sorrow of slave trade in school, but the economics of WHY is not mentioned so much. as it would make people angry about consumerism/capitalism.. so we had/have to learn about the cause and effect of slavery outside of education and then 'cancel culture' the retailers/corporations that cause/benefit from modern slavery

Really?

Did you read what you wrote.

There is nothing about your topic that needs to be discussed about here on this forum.

The slave trade happened many years ago in the 16th to the 19th century. Did you experience the slave did? Did you father or grandfather experience the slave trade? I guess not

If you need answers to your question, "Was it in any way helpful to the world economy or brought pain and sorrow to people." use Google or some Ai.

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I do not mean to sound rude or anything. I do not know you and you don't have to take this as a personal attack. All I want trying to say is that you can do better than this.

- talk about contemporary economic issues and how it affects the world economy and not some one sided topic in a forum where majority of the users didn't experience or were affected by it and definitely do not care.

My topic is a question to deliberate about this is economy board so me bringing up economy topic which I think is good to deliberate about is not something you should get angry about.

What the fuck is this topic?
Does this look like a place to discuss history?

You're Nigerian and I'm Nigerian. If you have nothing better to write about then stop creating topics and spend time reading about Bitcoin.


You should have something better to do than write about slave trade. How does this benefit the forum?

Please delete this.

What were you told about the slave trade.
Was it in any way helpful to the world economy or brought pain and sorrow to people.

Slave trade has it economic impact to the world it helped some countries grow there economy and till date that economy impact it helped to grow is still effective.

Slave trade also caused pain to people it was so painful for those seen as victims you needed to stay alive or die.

After the end of slave trade, it gave the world another face of economy activity every nation became more serious in developing there self's  and the focus of trading natural resources became more serious till date.