Topic: Whatapp, Telegram and many others are being tapped from what wikileaks says (Read 481 times)
March 08, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
governments never finish to surprise...
March 08, 2017, 11:18:45 PM
If they are tapping the Whatsapp messages of the Islamic terrorists, then I don't object to it. But it seems that they are taping the phones of every single Whatsapp user. What if this data gets hacked by some blackhat guy? It can be used for blackmail and harassment.
March 08, 2017, 09:01:35 PM
Even your shiny new big screen t.vs can be used as huge microphones as surveillance devices for so called agencies for your national security.
Just some bored cia/fbi agents wanting to listen to lonely couples having sex on a saturday afternoon while the kids are at grandma's house.
I'm sure it doesn't happen that any 'cia/fbi' operative does a search for the string 'bitcoin' in the sea of data, finds several, then decides to have a peek at the cell phone belonging to the individual who generated the string. Nope. Probably never happens.
Remember, it is not a matter of monitoring while you happen to be typing in a password. If a full record of everything you've typed is available, the password you typed 5 years ago is still kicking around. It is currently pretty unclear who has access to the full archives, and if/how that may have changed when Obama relaxed the '16 intelligence agency' sharing of unfiltered material in his final weeks in office.
Almost no data is actually viewed by humans. Algorithms are run over it to try to gauge society at large and identify trends and such. That said, I bet a modestly capable coder could hack up a little script to match likely passwords to pilfered Bitcoin wallets with reasonable accuracy, and have a ton of results within microseconds of executing it. If they have the right access.
March 08, 2017, 06:46:07 PM
This is something that I always thought had been something that was possible, that the government had been able to watch us at any point without an issue of all this encryption bullshit that we were sold down the line.
All of this encryption I feel is sold to you to make sure that the user of a certain product is reassured against others being able to get into it, though It's not to protect you against the government attempting to crack down on you in the least. Encryption is something that we use in order to make us feel like we're safe when we're really not and can be watched without an issue.
This is similar to saying that the TSA is for security, when it is really used to make people feel safe.
Even your shiny new big screen t.vs can be used as huge microphones as surveillance devices for so called agencies for your national security.All of this encryption I feel is sold to you to make sure that the user of a certain product is reassured against others being able to get into it, though It's not to protect you against the government attempting to crack down on you in the least. Encryption is something that we use in order to make us feel like we're safe when we're really not and can be watched without an issue.
This is similar to saying that the TSA is for security, when it is really used to make people feel safe.
Just some bored cia/fbi agents wanting to listen to lonely couples having sex on a saturday afternoon while the kids are at grandma's house.
March 08, 2017, 06:15:45 PM
This is something that I always thought had been something that was possible, that the government had been able to watch us at any point without an issue of all this encryption bullshit that we were sold down the line.
All of this encryption I feel is sold to you to make sure that the user of a certain product is reassured against others being able to get into it, though It's not to protect you against the government attempting to crack down on you in the least. Encryption is something that we use in order to make us feel like we're safe when we're really not and can be watched without an issue.
This is similar to saying that the TSA is for security, when it is really used to make people feel safe.
All of this encryption I feel is sold to you to make sure that the user of a certain product is reassured against others being able to get into it, though It's not to protect you against the government attempting to crack down on you in the least. Encryption is something that we use in order to make us feel like we're safe when we're really not and can be watched without an issue.
This is similar to saying that the TSA is for security, when it is really used to make people feel safe.
March 08, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
Nothing new under the sun. Obama did his best to establish a mass surveillance state and hillary would have developed it further to a full-scale police state. Too bad their plans are currently on hold.
If Obama really accept the total surveillance that except when he missed so many Russian spies? Think for yourself. Of course, no one disputes that the CIA is watching people, but not so globally as it is trying to present. March 08, 2017, 05:25:03 PM
Nothing new under the sun. Obama did his best to establish a mass surveillance state and hillary would have developed it further to a full-scale police state. Too bad their plans are currently on hold.
March 08, 2017, 05:00:22 PM
I have always knew those things arent safe
They use the encryption thing to make people feel comfortable and reveal their secret
They use the encryption thing to make people feel comfortable and reveal their secret
March 08, 2017, 04:56:19 PM
We knew that there were integrated monitoring / listening systems in iOS and android, but we could not prove it.
Thanks wikileaks
Thanks wikileaks
March 08, 2017, 04:17:29 PM
your are not right.
This statement by WikiLeaks made most people think that the encryption used by end-to-end encrypted messaging clients such as Signal and WhatsApp has been broken.
No, it hasn't.
Instead, the CIA has tools to gain access to entire phones, which would of course "bypass" encrypted messaging apps because it fails all other security systems virtually on the phone, granting total remote access to the agency.
read this:
http://thehackernews.com/2017/03/wikileaks-cia-vault7-leak.html
This statement by WikiLeaks made most people think that the encryption used by end-to-end encrypted messaging clients such as Signal and WhatsApp has been broken.
No, it hasn't.
Instead, the CIA has tools to gain access to entire phones, which would of course "bypass" encrypted messaging apps because it fails all other security systems virtually on the phone, granting total remote access to the agency.
read this:
http://thehackernews.com/2017/03/wikileaks-cia-vault7-leak.html
March 08, 2017, 04:17:01 PM
Most devices (phones, computers, etc) are 'owned' by whoever knows the backdoors. This means, among other things, all key-strokes and all files.
I would expect that a great number of Bitcoin signing keys (aka, 'bitcoins'), or easy access to them, are filed away and ready to be exploited when the time is right. A direct consequence is that a lot of people probably think that they 'own' more BTC than they actually do.
Those who currently control a non-trivial amount of BTC might be well advised to dive back in and figure out how to make off-line wallets in a secure way and put a decent fraction of their stash on them.
If the shit hits the fan abruptly, and I suspect it could, this could have a serious (but hopefully quasi-temporary) impact on BTC markets. If I were advising the so-called 'deep state' on the task of rolling out their own competing cashless system, I would suggest legislative measures criminalizing Bitcoin concurrent with an attack leveraging non-secure signing keys.
March 08, 2017, 12:42:53 PM
CIA leaks from vault 7 showed how messages on these chatting apps are intercepted and can be used against you in a court of law.
I've always thought telegram was encrypted so this couldn't happen.
No wonder Obama used Blackberry all those years in office. He knew his own spying agency was listening in on his private conversations.
I've always thought telegram was encrypted so this couldn't happen.
No wonder Obama used Blackberry all those years in office. He knew his own spying agency was listening in on his private conversations.
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