Topic: What's the trick here? (Read 322 times)

apart from the fact that you knew your reason for prolonging the chat when you already know from the onset that he is a scammer, i have always have my fears while dealing with scammers and trying to allow them work you through their strategy just because you want to know how the whole stuff will end. some people in the process of doing this have actually fallen for these scammers because they have a way of getting you to do what they want as long as you continue to engage with them in the discussion. conversing with them is actually a trick on it own and so as long as you feel odd about the whole thing, just cut it off and don't go any further.

this kind of scam is too basic for anyone that knows about how scammers operate to fall victim of apart from newbies and some others that wants to assume that they can outsmart the scammer, regardless of how you paint the scenario, if i have to send you first even if it is the least amount of penny before i can get paid for whatever i am dealing with you most especially in a platform like the telegram that has been occupied by scammers since the start of airdrops, the negotiation is going no further because you can never convince me to doin a thing as that.

Good a thing you didn't continue the conversation or even click the link.

Thank for the update so we can be aware and be careful in our dealings

From the onset the scammer mentioned buying your account, that was the red flag looming, if I may ask, did you take out time to check the telegram group you both belong to in common so you could have been able to trace or track the scammer conversation on the group and possibly expose them the more before they had deleted their contact entirely.

I was wondering as the scammer wants to buy your telegram name which means him buying your telegram account if I am not mistaken, would the scammer also buy your phone number used in registering the tlegram account? these are the things they fail to understand before carrying out their dirty business. They just feel that those tricks could work maybe for some people not everybody would fall for such stupidity. OP, the scammer already knows you are knowledgeable enough to decipher his tricks hence he quickly deleted his account because you might go further to blow his cover.

There is absolutely nothing special in my telegram ID that will make it worth such huge amount. The amount he was willing to offer was just to deceive their victims but on a normal circumstance, that strategy will only work on greedy people who aim to reap where they did not sow. I don't think a genuine project will wish to offer such amount to get a telegram username that has nothing to do with their project. Unless you are newbie in this space or probably first time having encounter with scammers, it's not too hard to identify them and their suspicions ways but if you allow greediness to control your mind, you'll likely fall into their trap. And yeah, it's very unwise to click on random links that was shared by strangers.

Clicking on a link you don't know anything about is very dengerous, because that's the strategy scammers are using now to scam people's money. Most of them would be chatting with you and before you know it he would start referring you to click on a link, and if you mistakely click on it, everything would just vanished immediately and it will look like a dreaming to you. However, it's essential to be cautious when interacting with unfamiliar individuals or massages, especially those that ask you to click on links or provide sensitive information.

What is that thing that is so special about your telegram account that made the scammer to be very much interested in getting that your account? Just imagine the huge amount of money he wish to offer you just to get the account, but to be honest with you I don't think if he's for  the account I think is just a way of starting a conversation with you. But thank goodness that you didn't click the link he asked you to click because sometimes they can have your account hacked through those link. But thank God you're smart enough to notice that the person you're dealing with is a scammer right from when you both first started the conversation LoL.

OP already knew from the start that it was a scam and just went along out of curiosity on the next move.

For those of us who are seasoned in crypto, we can usually tell right away from the intro if there’s a potential scam attempt. And since this happened on Telegram (where scammers are everywhere), we need to be even more cautious.

Scammers, seriously! Imagine asking for a wallet with a 35 TON balance, that’s already a significant amount. They really don’t hold back, do they?

I dont have an idea about the fragment thing but base on the conversation right there this is already skeptical imagine why people buying your username with tons of possible username they can made, I we're on that I immediately block the contact of that person and ignore if I receive the same thing, it seems like they are trying to get you in having a casual conversation like deceiving until they got you, as possible if upon conversation there's a link involved do not take any action just leave to make you safe. Like wise we always saying don't talk to strangers.

Thank God you didn't fall for the scam. The link he sent is obviously a drainer and if you had clicked it, you would have lost your funds. I know about fragment and how the selling of telegram username works, although I've not sold any. Since you are the one selling, you are not supposed to fund your account, it should be the buyers job. Yours is to put up your username for sale on the platform while he connects his wallet, accept the username and pays.

This is several methods that scammers use in defrauding of their funds that is why it's always advisable not to discuss anything related to business especially sending of money to people online that are strange and new as there are a lot of fraudstar that are on social media platforms waiting for who will fall victim to their tricks

Right from initially of his statements you will know that this is a scammer’s, because how can unknown person will ask buy the all someone telegram and is not that he knows you before or where you’re from; the best thing for you to do now is for you to just ignore him don’t even reply his anymore so he will know that you’re not interested.

The scammers are just been creating difference of way on how to get access to people’s accounts and them hack it up, this prove to us that it’s very important for each and everyone to be very careful we should know who to allow to get access to ours any accounts; because not everybody are trusted now.

This is a huge red flag and confirms it’s a scam.
I haven’t personally encountered this kind of scam attempt on my Telegram,..
well, probably because my username doesn’t seem valuable to them, LOL.

well, as we all know, if it’s too good to be true, it’s probably a scam.
I guess, I’ll just follow this thread for now since I’m not too familiar with the technical side of these scams and just let this thread educate me as well.

Just getting to know about fragment for the first time today. I think @Davidvictorson's explanation of fragment  is satisfying.

I've had lots of strangers like this in my dm and they usually have one thing in common. It's either they want to help you fix something or they want to offer you money for something that isn't really of value to you.Their targets are usually greedy users or total newbies they can easily manipulate or influence. No matter the offer a stranger would approach anyone with, they (especially newbies) should avoid clicking links or sending money to strangers. Infact, avoid them completely.

The end is just too obvious. It will end in you sending them money and clicking on malicious links. All scam!

I have no technical ideal to how the scammers strategies with the request of Fragment wallet but I have known Fragment wallet to be a non custodial crypto wallet that's also associated with internet interaction features to facilitate transactions.
It is fragmented also as multisig signatories for accessed.

I think if you've followed the scammers directive and you don't just have ideal to suspect it is a scam, while processing to get into the Fragment platform would there be when he'll redirect you to assign him to the signatory so when are have access to the wallet and steam the amount of Ton you deposited there.

I haven't come across this kind method of scam but I am not surprised about it because scammers have many ways to scam people, they can do anything to make you fall into their trap, they have a sweet mouth and offer what you can't reject that is why some people fall into their trap, Scammers can message you in any website whether Facebook, Telegram and even WhatsApp, I wonder how some scammers get people number and be chatting them on WhatsApp, I have received many message on WhatsApp without not knowing the contact and ones the person who is chatting talking about investment and offer money I block and delete the number.

Telegram is a place where scammers do what they like, you will see a message with a link asking you to click the link as if they are the ones that bought you a phone, you made a very good plan by playing games with the scammers and the reason why the scammers delete the account is that people are about to notice or he has scam another person and delete the account, it is very good to be careful and not to be greedy if not one day we will lose something important to us.

What a complicated process.

If you not understand how fragment and making transaction via telegram, better to avoid to trade.

If I were you, I will contact one of trusted escrow in this forum and ask how much the fees, if he refuse to trade using escrow and insist to use his way, I will reject his offer, simple.

Yeah, it seems like wasting of time but it's actually not. Depending on how careful and security conscious we are, we can sometimes tolerate this scammers to know their new methods and alart others about it to be careful in case they come across such trap and they won't longer fall for it.


That was the exact thing that came my mind when he sent the link. I actually did not click on the link but I preview it to see what it contains. We've heard about phishing links and how they'll get your device compromised and manipulate unless it's an empty device with non sensitive information stored in it.


It's been confirmed on this thread that Fragment method actually do exist to carryout certain transactions on Telegram legitimately but it seems the scammers now attempts to make use of it to their own advantage by luring people with huge amounts of asset. We just have to be vigilant out there interacting with any payment method including the ones we are familiar with.

Not only do we have them on telegram, scammers are everywhere and most of the social media platform, we find out that they are using them as a haven aboard to perpetrate their evil deeds with scam, but when we are vigilant of their techniques as well as the common routes they take to hack and take charge of users accounts on social media platforms, then we are not going to be a victim to their attempts for scam or hack, but if we are ignorant of them, we may likely fall their trap and be their victim.

I have only used fragment to purchase telegram stars, I haven’t used them for any other service before. But while going through the website, I saw a section where usernames are been auctioned out for sale, but I haven’t tried them out before since I’m not in need of them. That’s the only thing I know about fragment relating to buying of account.


This is my first time seeing it here or even heard about it before. Thanks for sharing it here, it’ll make one to be more careful when dealing with scammers like this when they pose such trick on someone in the future because they will never stop looking for means to scam users.


It is very easy, once you connect your wallet to the link he sent to you. Your money will be drained without getting them back. It’ll make the account expose and there is nothing you can do about it rather than abandoning the account since it’s already altered. Any incoming funds will still be stolen, so at that point, you’ve lost the wallet as a whole.

You could simply get information about Fragment if you do a quick search. The link that @Davidvictorson provided contains everything you need to know about it.


Using Fragment as the payment or transaction channel is very strange to me since none of these scammers have referred it to me. But I have had several encounters with Telegram scammers and I simply don't give them any attention. It is just a waste of time and it also increases the risk you are exposed to.


After you have pay in the money, he might ask for more money or simply disappear with what he has collected if you are unwilling to give him more. Clicking on the link might lead to phishing which might expose some private information.

I have no idea about that but it's possible that it's a bot or any type of channel or website that they have made for their victims to visit.

It's the same as the scams of telling people that they've got some money in a trading website and you have to help them. And from there, you'll also be convinced to trade there and you have to fund your wallet. And you'll realize that you've been trapped and deposited your money on their own platform and there's no way out until you stop and block them.

"Too good to be true" offers to target greed people are most popular scam method. If you know about this trick against scammers, and can control your greed, you are safe from scammers.

From screenshots, I can see there are hyper links to somewhere else. These links can direct you to a phishing sites, or malicious files, whatever not safe for you and your device, wallet.

Scam book for other common scams.

To be on the safer side, you are not supposed to click on a link sent to you by a stranger; in the first place, it could be a phishing link attack.

Some scammers don't necessarily need you to send them money first before you fall victim to their scam by clicking on the link they send to you alone; you can endanger your personal data and everything that's located on the gadget you use.

In the cyber world there are so many types of fraud, and the most common is theft of personal information, and financial fraud.

From the case above, I think it includes an attempt to financial fraud and steal access personal information from the op, right? I don't really understand what will happen when we click on a phishing or suspicious link, but fortunately I have never encountered it, and I think we should avoid conversations and try to click on links from unknown people's posts, because it is too dangerous, especially for lay people.

Recently I heard news that there is a Bot Cloning from safeguard and this is very dangerous. Basically Safeguard is a bot that secures our account, be it for telegram or discord. The danger is when we use the bot incorrectly, and instead use a clone. So we need to check again whether the bot we are using is safe or not and of course we have to check from the official party.

From the amount the scammer is willing to pay for your telegram account you already know that he is a scammer because why will someone be offering you $3990 for a telegram account if he doesn't want to use it to scam your friends because that's exactly what most of them do when they take over someone's account. You are lucky that you are familiar with this trick otherwise clicking on that link would have giving them access to your wallet, never entertain scammers for too long on your space because they usually have a unique way of trying to act like they care just to gain your trust before doing what they plan to do. The telegram space is filled with so many scammers if you don't know someone who is suggesting a business opportunity to you I think you need to block the person or face the risk of being scammed.

i. Read this about Fragment

ii. No, I haven't experienced this scamming method because if you text me on Telegram and I don't know you, I'll BLOCK you immediately. I am always on defensive mode.

iii. It will end with the scammer blocking you as soon as they receive the TON in their wallet.

First thing is you have no business actually conversing with this user, prolonging the chat is to me a waste of time and as I have recently find out the scammer can be the first to report your own account as a scammer before you do that to his own and you might lose the account.

Fragment that I know isn’t made for such transactions, fragment is a site used for purchasing of telegram stars which can be used for premium account subscriptions or other in app purchases on telegram, or also it is a website where you can buy unique usernames or business numbers for yourself, this things can still be bought for someone from your own fragment accounts. My guess is either the scammer gave a phishing fragment link to lure you into connecting your Ton wallet to drain them or they want to lure you to actually purchase any of the fragment services for them

For quite some time now, I have known Telegram to be a scammers eden and I'm always careful dealing with unknown person there. Some few days back, I received a message from unknown person offering to buy my Telegram Username for 700 TON which is equivalent to $3,990. If you are greedy type you'll easily fall for their trick.

I already know it's a scam trick but I pretended and played along to know which format it is this time around. After some chit chat with the unknown person, I agreed to sell the Username. I asked about the payment process and he made mention of FRAGMENT which I'm not actually conversant with. He asked me to fund the wallet with 35 TON (5%) of the agreed amount he's offering to buy my Username. At this point, I'm certain it's definitely a scam and become extra careful.

To cut it short, he sent me a link to click and proceed with the transaction. I never click the link thou but I previewed the link and the details are shown in the screenshot below.





I was actually too busy and we were not able to get to the end of the drama. Now, his account is showing deleted account on Telegram. So, I have some few questions;
i. How does Fragment method of transaction really work?
ii. Has anyone experienced this method of scamming before?
iii. What's the trick here? How will it likely end?

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Warning! No newbie should ever entertain conversation to this stage with a total stranger as they're likely to fall victim. I'm confident on myself because I'm familiar with their games.