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Topic: What's up with all the Bitget shills? (Read 599 times)

legendary
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November 22, 2023, 03:09:08 AM
#30
Here's an update of the biggest Bitget spammers for the month of November:

1. Bitcoinpoly [25]
2. Cryptoababe [17]
3. Best-mary [13]
4. ShayLegal [8]
5. Joseph-P [5]

So its not as much as it used to be, but for the biggest spammers I am just going to leave them a neutral tag that says "part of Bitget spam campaign."

Some of the posts aren't really spammy (compared to the average shitpost on this forum) so they may not be deleted as spam or low-value. Anyone can feel free to try and report them if they want... I just hate amassing Unhandled reports for some OCD reason.
hero member
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November 21, 2023, 09:54:19 AM
#29
And while we still have no answer this guy left 11 posts for today and yesterday and only one of them doesn't contain Bitget name or BGB mentioning. Any idea of what to do? If reporting then with which reason? If tagging then there could be problems in dividing shills and those who are honestly interested in some project... Huh
I guess low value.

Interested in some project doesn't look like that, he always try to make a correlation between the topic and Bitget/BGB, isn't he should post in Bitget or BGB official ANN thread? tagging the account seems not really useful since he can create a new account.

An exchange where all the communication to users is mainly done via Discord (and social media, in general) is a big red flag to me.
Isn't most of exchange like this? I think there's no problem since we can see or ask other users experience even though manipulation is unavoidable.
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 09:13:21 AM
#28
And while we still have no answer this guy left 11 posts for today and yesterday and only one of them doesn't contain Bitget name or BGB mentioning. Any idea of what to do? If reporting then with which reason? If tagging then there could be problems in dividing shills and those who are honestly interested in some project... Huh
legendary
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November 07, 2023, 02:16:35 AM
#27
Yes, look at this event below, even though they didn't state Bitcointalk, but they wrote "crypto community with at least 10K members", this forum is also crypto community and the total members are higher than that.

Not trying to promote Cheesy, but here's the discord channel https://discord.com/invite/bitget

~snip

An exchange where all the communication to users is mainly done via Discord (and social media, in general) is a big red flag to me.

I mean, FFS, why not just put it on your website? If they even know how to maintain one, that is, and didn't just buy some off-the-shelf HYIP template.

Anyway, shilling is such a dumb thing to be doing in the first place.
legendary
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November 05, 2023, 12:30:04 PM
#26
Not only Bitget

That's right. Look at these two accounts: VFalcon and krava22. They are not only the hugest fans of TFS token to mention or comment it in nearly each their post. They also have totally the same links in their profiles.

It looks this way:
Code:
https://zealy.io
And the link behind it is:
Code:
https://zealy.io/c/fairspin/questboard

In both accounts the same.

Moreover, VFalcon was caught on using AI for his posts.

Shills are quite active and there should be some decision of what to do with all that.
legendary
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November 05, 2023, 06:41:35 AM
#25
So I have been looking at this on and off for the last day or so. It really looks like there are a number of things going on.
1) Hired shills as discussed.
AND
2) Hired one of the cheap promo companies separate from hiring individuals
AND
3) Hired some company to generate backlinks.

All of them are combining together to generate this mess.

I can't prove it but it just looks like there are several (crap) forces at work here. Add in some legitimate discussions about them and legitimate users talking about them and you get when we have now.

As I said, I can't prove it but for #s 1-2-3 the language and way of posting just seem to have a couple of different patterns to them. At least to my eyes.

In the end it's still a CEX so not your keys not your coins

-Dave
hero member
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November 05, 2023, 04:01:54 AM
#24
I had noticed their strange behavior even before they launched the signature campaign. I remember in the past that forums could censor posts (auto-delete) with certain keywords, it was implemented in the altcoin bounty section. If that can be implemented again, I'm sure they won't come back to litter the place.
copper member
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November 05, 2023, 02:04:30 AM
#23
Maybe they are trying to push the usage of the word throughout the web. Like increasing the SEO or something. Isn't that one way to do it?

I hope they find the shill groups that are popular and just stay there. Reporting the posts would be ideal.
hero member
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November 05, 2023, 01:57:33 AM
#22
I just checked their Discord server and from what I understand, they are supposed to report their wok in dedicated channel in ordere to get the reward and I haven't noticed anyone sharing bitcointalk screenshots so I think these shills might not be connected with that contest. Either way, whoever Bitget hired to do this is better than those standard shills that usually write inside the project's announcement thread.
The proof should be posted in ⚡│rp-claims channel and yeah I also not found any screenshot about this forum in there, but I only scrolled to the next few days before, it's too much to scroll until the first message lol.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I could be right, after all it's not make sense for these newbies to keep mentioning this scam exchange across to different threads.
legendary
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November 04, 2023, 04:06:23 AM
#21
Not only Bitget, but there is promotional activity for other services such as rwaltz.com. I reported on some of these posts a while ago[1], and I think ETFbitcoin has talked about it in this topic[2].

The ideal solution (if such activity increases) might be to block some sentences/links for some time instead of banning these accounts, as I remember that in the past a signature campaign was banned.

[1]

There are some members who promote their services in all their posts without intending to discuss, and so all posts are considered spam because there is no intention to discuss here. For example, these accounts:

 - Grace366 (rwaltz.com SPAM)
 - Vivageneviv (Bitget SPAM) alt (ananyabushra

What is the appropriate format for reporting such activity?
[2] Growing SEO spam on Bitcointalk
legendary
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November 04, 2023, 02:51:22 AM
#20
If not to post on Discord to get their rewards, why would they bother shilling here?
Because they are obviously paid by Bitget to do it. I mean, maybe they are part of that Discord bounty but in the channel dedicated for sending proof of work I saw no screenshots from bitcointalk or any mention of it.

There are "marketing agencies" that are selling shilling on bitcointalk and Bitget probably hired one of them. The most active one on bitcointalk and the one that hold majroify of shilling market are Vitor Services but this looks like a work of someone else because its done in a better way than Vitor Services are usually doing.

legendary
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November 03, 2023, 08:31:49 PM
#19
Even some of the best brands outside of crypto world are doing similar ''promotions'' like this all the time, it's not like bitget invented this method   Wink

OK so what's an example?
copper member
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November 03, 2023, 06:58:23 PM
#18
Looks like I am one of those on top of the list at 15 Cheesy

I promise, I will try as much as possible not to mention that exchange on my posts.
About the accounts mentioned in the OP, yeah, that pattern can't be a coincidence. In this case, which is more appropriate? A neutral tag or red tag for shilling?
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 06:19:22 PM
#17
No, I have not taken a look but it seems they (Bitget the company) are in business for the foreseeable future because they have Messi as their brand partner. All the football world knows the name and this will give them the platform they require to increase their global presence. Regarding the shills, it is strange if they are not posting their evidence in their Discord to earn the rewards and it seems something a massive up and coming brand would not be doing at this stage of their growth.

If not to post on Discord to get their rewards, why would they bother shilling here?

They only receive rewards after they post their evidence on the Bitget Discord.
Have you checked their Discord though?

They have a dedicated channel where people report their work (mostly screenshots of them liking BitGet tweets) but no one is sharing bitcointalk screenhots and I went through last few days of their reports, meaning the shilling that is going on here  is probably not the part of that bounty (unless I somehow missed those screenshots).

hero member
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November 03, 2023, 02:06:44 PM
#16
So not everyone can afford high-paying promotions like signature or bounty campaigns, so they hire shillers whom they can pay pennies for posting.
According to the screenshot provided here. They didn't hire shillers, it is more like hosting a community call on their discord so they could pay the participants a die token.
It is something I have seen some meme coin teams doing when they want some quick pump instead of following the right channel.
legendary
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Merit: 5937
November 03, 2023, 01:17:55 PM
#15
They only receive rewards after they post their evidence on the Bitget Discord.
Have you checked their Discord though?

They have a dedicated channel where people report their work (mostly screenshots of them liking BitGet tweets) but no one is sharing bitcointalk screenhots and I went through last few days of their reports, meaning the shilling that is going on here  is probably not the part of that bounty (unless I somehow missed those screenshots).
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 01:08:10 PM
#14
Thank you for the image, it helps understand the situation better. There seems to be an accumulation process where the incentive is to carry on shilling otherwise the rewards get knocked back down again therefore the onus is on the participant (shill) to keep shilling. They only receive rewards after they post their evidence on the Bitget Discord.

I see they get paid with discord shitcoin, is that right? I have been looking for information to get the equivalence to dollars but I have not found it. There is a discord token that ceased to be traded on April 29th of this year.
I do not know if it makes sense to give them defunct tokens, it looks as though they are giving Bitget rewards with strict rules about have tokens reduced if participants are not adhering to the rules.

On the other hand, I don't know if you think we should report them? Tagging them is not going to have any effect and in any case it should be with a neutral, I understand.
I suppose neutral tags would be the appropriate way forward but Bitget has partnered with Argentine footballer Messi therefore those shilling will be hoping to have something on hand that one day will be worth a lot and are probably happy to take tags along the way.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 12:40:50 PM
#13
Do they have an official thread/ account on bitcointalk?

There is a topic in here — [ANN] Bitget - Leading Digital Asset Trading Platform. But I'm not sure that Aerys2 is their official representative.

They even had a signature campaign besides trashing the forum with spam shilling posts for months. It was managed by Hhampuz, so maybe he knows if Bitget has some official representatives on the forum. But campaign lasted for very short time, I guess they think that shilling works better for them killing their reputation to 0.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 11:48:08 AM
#12
So not everyone can afford high-paying promotions like signature or bounty campaigns, so they hire shillers whom they can pay pennies for posting.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 10:28:17 AM
#11
Yes, look at this event below, even though they didn't state Bitcointalk, but they wrote "crypto community with at least 10K members", this forum is also crypto community and the total members are higher than that.
I just checked their Discord server and from what I understand, they are supposed to report their wok in dedicated channel in ordere to get the reward and I haven't noticed anyone sharing bitcointalk screenshots so I think these shills might not be connected with that contest. Either way, whoever Bitget hired to do this is better than those standard shills that usually write inside the project's announcement thread.



Speaking of that, 2-3 years ago I was onto a group of high ranking accounts that were involved in the similar type of shilling but they did such a good job and were very careful that it was hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they actually shilled for shitcoins so in the end I just gave up as it didn't make much sense to shit on someone's rep without proper proof. 

legendary
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November 03, 2023, 10:22:25 AM
#10
I also saw @Cryptoababe, breaking forum rules (25), which states.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55998588
Quote
Accounts Connected & Ban Evasion:

Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53816178
Archive: https://archive.vn/wip/KBSpi

1. Hakeemjuve (Autobanned)
2. airdropdude (Inactive for 7 months)
3. Cryptoababe

Hope someone reports about Ban evasion, accurately for @Cryptoababe, to stop spamming/Bitget.


copper member
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November 03, 2023, 10:07:37 AM
#9
Do they have an official thread/ account on bitcointalk? If they don't have that, they should not be allowed to advertise here because potential clients from this forum won't have a place to discuss about the service and get answers from their representatives, but if they have a thread and account, they should receive a red tag accordingly, why? Because we all know when a service acquires cheap shilling services, they are not really trustworthy, and we all know that those shills are getting paid $1 per day, so their reviews about how trustworthy and great that service is, does not imply trustworthiness.

Because, if you have an exit scam plan, you won't do it to small clients, you'd wait to grow the amount of your stash and then execute the plan.
So I'd say again, if there are no official thread here, administrator should issue a ban warning for those promoting such services.  Why having a thread here is a must? Because people can scrutinize them for possible red flags.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 09:34:23 AM
#8
I didn't notice so much posts about bitget in topics I usually write, but I just checked Ninjastic website and I think there are much more of this shills aka ''paid workers''.
Click on Users to see latest updated list:
https://ninjastic.space/search?content=bitget

Really, I just don't trust businesses that engage in this sort of behavior. It comes across as manipulative and makes me think that if they are willing to do that, what other less-than-forthright things do they do as a business?
Even some of the best brands outside of crypto world are doing similar ''promotions'' like this all the time, it's not like bitget invented this method   Wink

legendary
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November 03, 2023, 07:00:14 AM
#7
Yes, look at this event below, even though they didn't state Bitcointalk, but they wrote "crypto community with at least 10K members", this forum is also crypto community and the total members are higher than that.

OK, this makes it make more sense... Thanks for sharing.

On the other hand, I don't know if you think we should report them? Tagging them is not going to have any effect and in any case it should be with a neutral, I understand.

Sure, if it comes across as outright spam. I think a neutral probably is warranted for the most egregious shillers; not that it will impact their behavior.

Really, I just don't trust businesses that engage in this sort of behavior. It comes across as manipulative and makes me think that if they are willing to do that, what other less-than-forthright things do they do as a business?
hero member
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November 03, 2023, 04:34:40 AM
#6
I've never used this exchange, and despite a few high-profile instances, I'm not certain this can be labeled as a scam exchange or not.

I have also used this exchange for trading, P2P exchange and all worked well and faced no issue especially their withdraw speed is so fast and also the issue you mentioned already solved and Evenluthra. Eth apologize. you can read here more

So has anyone heard about Bitget compensating people for spamming the forum about them? Just curious.

I have joined months ago coinstore exchange private telegram group where members are given task for shilling (daily posting on two platform). They have google documents where they given shilling rules and words which should be used in shilling.  They gives weekly payment to each user with 1$ per day payrate.

I am not sure what is real phenomenal behind it but from observation of promotion by all these accounts , it's appears that Bitget is also using same tactics as coinstore and all accounts are alt of one or two person.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 03:43:31 AM
#5
On the other hand, I don't know if you think we should report them? Tagging them is not going to have any effect and in any case it should be with a neutral, I understand.

"Report to moderator" is probably the best course of action. We can use this thread as a reference so they have a better picture of what's going on, and the moderators might also start giving out temporary bans .
legendary
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November 02, 2023, 11:31:18 PM
#4
I see they get paid with discord shitcoin, is that right? I have been looking for information to get the equivalence to dollars but I have not found it. There is a discord token that ceased to be traded on April 29th of this year.

On the other hand, I don't know if you think we should report them? Tagging them is not going to have any effect and in any case it should be with a neutral, I understand.
legendary
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November 02, 2023, 11:28:14 PM
#3
Yes, look at this event below, even though they didn't state Bitcointalk, but they wrote "crypto community with at least 10K members", this forum is also crypto community and the total members are higher than that.
I tried to find it in their telegram and they told me no such campaign exists.

Besides this, there are a lot of Shiller groups here in Bitcointalk.
hero member
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November 02, 2023, 11:09:45 PM
#2
Yes, look at this event below, even though they didn't state Bitcointalk, but they wrote "crypto community with at least 10K members", this forum is also crypto community and the total members are higher than that.

Not trying to promote Cheesy, but here's the discord channel https://discord.com/invite/bitget

legendary
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November 02, 2023, 10:07:19 PM
#1
I've never used this exchange, and despite a few high-profile instances, I'm not certain this can be labeled as a scam exchange or not.

However, it seems like they must have some kind of an off-forum bounty running where they reimburse accounts for posting about Bitget while endorsing it in some way or another.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. This account has mentioned Bitget 23 times since Sept 26 and posted several links to the exchange, this one being the most recent:

I guess so, I found this exchange support free trading using coupons
https://www.bitget.com/support/articles/11678672728473-Bitget-Coupons

Here are some account which have mentioned Bitget positively an inordinate amount of times this year (bounty seems to have started in July):

Bitcoinpoly - 67 mentions
Vivangeneviv - 55 mentions
Zee27 (banned) - 50 mentions
Altcoiner007 - 39 mentions
Cryptoababe - 33 mentions
ananyabushra - 30 mentions
Best-mary - 23 mentions
Joseph-P - 18 mentions

(there's several others but these are the most prolific shillers)

Note that most of these accounts are not in signature campaigns and do not participate in forum bounties. Some of them seem to be bought accounts.

So has anyone heard about Bitget compensating people for spamming the forum about them? Just curious.
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