Topic: Whats Up with the Woke racist Left? (Read 215 times)

               This does make sense. Most are just doing this for selfish reasons and mainly for feeding their EGOs. Some even demand special treatment just because they want to be labeled higher from everyone else. And when you try to call them out, they resort to making themselves look pitiful, saying they are being oppressed or something(the guilt game) then they make arguments that are nonsense but never want to listen to other's arguments and reply with a whole bunch of other nonsense. Disgusting hypocrites.

I was simply ironizing because the defenders of communism claim that what Stalin did was not true communism, and we could apply the same to others. But when they all end up the same, I think there is something wrong with the system itself, not that it is a good idea misapplied (repeatedly), but that it is a bad idea.


Actually, what I believe is that humans tend to commit excesses, regardless of the political system in place, so it is better to counteract excesses. If extreme capitalism is implemented with hardly any rules, society ends up being like a jungle and I believe that precisely what characterizes us humans is that through intelligence we have been able to go far beyond our natural instincts.

As to whether it is better for them to be left-wing or not, I think we might not agree on the basis. Do you call economies where public spending accounts for 50% of GDP or more capitalist? In many European countries that is what happens, and I would not call them very capitalist. More capitalist than North Korea, that's for sure, but I see them as quite intervened. So I would say that maybe we don't share the basic vision, because I understand that you in general see developed nations as quite capitalist, and that's why you think they have to moderate it with regulations, etc., and I see them as a little bit too intervened and with too much state weight in the economy.

We are SO lucky that thousands of great movies were already produced long before Hollywood devolved into a leftist propaganda machine.

Yes. Of course this is a complex issue, and we must consider the historic context of Hitler's rise to power, notably the aftermath of WW1 and specifically the Treaty of Versailles and how that impacted Germany. Obviously he is shunned by all sides, but I don't think he was a socialist or a liberal.


Well, my point is that communism is a terrible system, not least because it is easy to exploit. Historic examples show that leaders of nominally communist states become (or already were?) power-mad despots. How much they actually believe in communism and how much they simply want to be in charge is debatable. I'm not aware of any "communist" state in history that has genuinely been run by, and has worked to the benefit of, ordinary citizens.


So you agree that governments in capitalist nations should be left-of-centre rather than right-of-centre? I mean, this is the main reason that I vote for left-wing parties. I assume you don't agree fully, and there is more nuance to uncover here.

There would be much to discuss here. Hitler was not a faithful believer in economic liberalism either. What you express is a debatable political belief:

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Sure, sure, neither Pol Pot, Mao etc. were not true communists either.


I agree.


I agree 100%

In a way I sort of agree with you but you are looking the situation through thin hole in the wall filtered by the mainstream media. And this is how a leftist is born by mainstream media brainwashing and pushing of narratives that will subconsciously become part of the victim's life. Well you could say America is probably one of the most diverse countries like many Central and South American countries. Practically the rest of the world is of one racial dominance. I would say you're right racism is killing people and it is the racism of the left. In the 1950s and 1960s, the dominant race push by mainstream media/culture were white people. White people would make black people be a separate class and would propagate racist transgressions against them. Martin Luther King and those of the civil rights movements and their peaceful protests of injustice changed this. Fast forward to today and now Black people are being pushed as the dominant race (well unless there are LBGT people that feel oppressed then they become victim #1) and now White people are the underclass. Black people are being told white people are bad just as white people were told black people were bad during the era predating the civil rights movement by leaders and the mainstream media. So yes racism is killing people but the shoe is on the other foot. What I'm trying to say is history repeats and it isn't pretty. The question is when the media and our leaders push us one way down history's path do we finally say "no" and go against them?

The mainstream media and our leaders are the powder and you are the spark as you are trying to say... The media propagates these stories about every black person killed by a cop both warranted and unwarranted are the worst things to happen in America today when it is pure classism and Neo-Feudal tactics employed by the Elite soon enough that will be far more damaging to humanity itself. So there was a story in the media a few years ago about a black cafeteria worker driving home with his girlfriend. He was fatally shot by a cop the media perceived or assumed was white at the time. So they were running the usual narrative that "White cop kills black man, all whites are bad narrative". Come to find out the black guy had a CCW permit and was going to prove to the cop who was Asian not White that he legally could carry it. Instead the Asian cop kills the man in front of his girlfriend. You know what the girlfriend said to a group of mourners while being filmed by the media? "All Lives Matter," afterward the camera panned out and in social media thereafter she was demonized by the media and her story cut from the narrative driven masses. They stated she should have used the term "Black Lives Matter" well that is only one racial group what about Asians, Latinos and Whites? Do their lives matter?

Ok now to George Floyd. George Floyd was passing out counterfeit bills and was arrested oddly and improperly restrained in many people's view and later died. So what really happened is while he was in the car, Flloyd was trying to swallow a small baggy of drugs in his mouth (it was probably fentanyl) if you look at the footage carefully online so he would not get further jail time. Instead he started to panic and when put into the car gasping the cops restrained him in an odd unpleasant way. They held him down in what looked like some sort of pressure choke-hold pressing his head to the ground. This tactic at the time was sanctioned by the Minneapolis police from the Israeli military (What the fuck...) manual. So really what the cops should have done is called in an Ambulance to pick up the druggie Floyd and prevent him from OD'ing. So if the judge really wanted to throw the book at these cops they would all get third-degree murder charges or at minimum fired from the force for letting a person die like this.

Hitler wanted to just kill people he was evil and supposedly wanted to break away from the NWO that wanted to kill 99% of the world's population following the Georgia Guidestones. The ironic part is he was following their plan so it makes you wonder if Hitler was MK-Ultra before it was ever uttered or conceived. As for Stalin, here is a famous quote by him that applies to today:

"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."

So what the media has done is what Stalin just said instead of black people becoming a crime statistic due to poor cultural input by the media (gangster rap, movies, blaksplotation films, etc) they individualized the person to make them into a tragedy coalescing into what the media wants you to perceive. Stalin was a bad person as well that ruled the Soviets with an iron fist before Stalin came to power Lenin was in charge and basically killed people at whim like Hitler did so Stalin was the lesser of two evils if you could believe that and seized power. One person you forgot to mention is Mao in China. Mao killed 40 million people (way more than Stalin or Hitler achieved) during the cultural revolution which is happening now in America. We are being turned into China and yet this is ignored because China has been fed by the big banks and Wall Street that set their state up in 1949. The NWO wants the world to be like China so they can rule over the masses like they did in the feudal era of Emperors and Kings. As for Trump, you watch way too much MSM. If he was really like Hitler and Stalin, he would have said to come to DC with your AR-15 and pistols and take on the police and Feds so I can continue to rule unabated. While your at it take out the judges and Congress/Senate. Disclaimer: I'm not saying to do that but giving you an alternative reality which is what the media feeds to your mind. Anyway the closest I could even perceive Trump as Hitler or Stalin is his push of the vaccine during the last year of his presidency. What if the vaccines are to sterize and kill you? There are always adverse reaction reported? The bigger question is after 3 years of seeming to not yield to the demands of the elite why did he yield during his last year?

Calm down, and try to form a logical argument.



Thanks for pointing out the difference between Stalin and modern social democrats - you'd think the distinction would be obvious to everyone, but no, there is still hilarious hysterical shrieking about
at any mention of anything even vaguely left-of-centre, including, at times, those little-red-book-waving-zealots the US Democrats

Not sure about your other point, though. I mean, 30 million dead on the Eastern Front in WW2 does suggest at least some degree of ideological difference between Hitler and Stalin.

The Nazis as 'national socialists' is a familiar argument used to suggest that the Nazis were left-wing. It's a McCarthyist-era tactic, attempting to demonise the USSR by establishing a link between them and the primary antagonist of then-recent memory, Hitler. Of course, the Nazis weren't left-wing. Hitler's party was profoundly anti-Marxist, and the phrase 'national socialism' was used to as a marketing tool, a means of differentiating it from the socialism that was popular amongst the working classes, whilst still promoting a working-class appeal. The Nazis weren't, for example, a party of wealth distribution (unless of course you were Jewish). The Nazi use of the word 'socialism' may be compared to the phrase 'all lives matter', which is transparently racist and white-supremacist, and seeks to denigrate blacks by promoting whites, whilst adopting a similar name to the anti-racist movement that it opposes.

But of course Stalin wasn't really a communist, either. He exploited the communist system to become a despot, brought murder and misery to a huge number of people, and had zero concern for the working poor. Left-wing politics in practice, in the context of the first part of the twentieth century, is instead best characterised by the New Deal, and by the post-WW2 rebuilding of Europe by Hitler's enemies, and here in the UK the establishment of the NHS... it's not characterised by Stalin or Hitler.

I would currently describe myself as left-wing, but the term 'left' is of course relative. If we were living in a communist state, I would describe myself as right-wing. Communism is a terrible idea, because it is a form of absolutism... which is why laissez-faire capitalism, or ancap, or whatever the preferred term is, is also a terrible idea... because it is so easy to exploit, and because it results in the same thing, monopolies and cartels in place of the KGB, and the same outcome - entrenchment of a tiny elite and the exploitation of everyone else.

No system can work fairly unless there is a countervailing force to curb its excesses. This should be the purpose of a government in a capitalist system. A right-wing government in a capitalist economy makes no sense, and may as well not be there.

This will continue until minorities stop almost exclusively voting Democrat. If blacks were to split their votes between Republicans and Democrats, Democrats would be unable to ever win elections.

Unfortunately this is unlikely because the Democrats’ propaganda machine to too effective.

Unfortunately, racism and Nazism was and still is always present everywhere, even in the largest democracies on the planet. There is always racism. Some fools believe that America is the most tolerant and free country, but this is completely wrong. Racism is almost killing American society. It is like a powder keg and is waiting for only a small spark. This was evident in the recent Floyd incident. So what is the difference between Hitler, Stalin and Trump?

The US will change. After all, most of the government people took the vaxx... most of the main ones, that is. They'll die off from the vaxx shortly, and everything will change.

I am from outside the US and after years of seeing their "anti-campaign", I got tired of it. using race as their weapon to battle their opponent because they know it'll give minorities a sense of being protected while in reality, they are just a pawn for people who want power and money. It's just sad that there are still a lot of people(including Asians) who are still easily swayed by the "anti-racism" campaign by the left.

It is just a matter of years until the leftist executives realise that the woke business ideas don't sell. It is not up to an corporate agenda but to all of us to change it. We the consumers need to boycott all that woke crap. The biggest issue for me are all these woke movies nowadays. They don't care for their own story, rather take stories with a make lead and put only woman in the movies. It's on us to not fall for these movies.

Racism won't stop until all those racists turns out to be anti racists, which is possible?

Some leaders may be against this racism but as a government they won't oppose it because they are getting votes from those people so they want these agitation to be always there to sperate votes and ensure their winning percentage.

the issues with anti-racism is where it becomes so woke they actually start segregating people of the world into groups

its the same with LGB group.
by labelling them as LGB or black instead of just human. they are segregating themselves out.
they are trying to get different treatment than other humans.
they want to be recognised as different to other humans

its like cities offering neighbourhoods like 'little china' so that chinese can feel comfortable and together..
end result is a prison estate where only chinese should exist.

the over woke 'integration' plans end up being segregation plans

a white british person is just called british
a black british person is called african-carribean
a white american is just american
a black american is called afro-american or more recently black-american

i wonder if the hypocritical overwokes would start to call whites as
blonde american
darkhair american
ginger american

and see how long that lasts for them to become awake to their previous woke

I have just seen a video and I don't know if you are referring to this:

Will Cain: Democrats are hiding from their own racist creation


Actually many people do not know that there was not so much difference between Hitler and Stalin.

If we were talking about a moderate European-style socio-democrat, there would be.

they are running from their own racist creation now.

Whats Up with the Woke racist Left?


They just thought they Woke. They are still sleeping.

propagating antiracism for decades, it turns out it is 100% just hypocritical and racist?

when will the racist neonazi left bein considered as such, when will they stop disguising themselves as communists and when will they get all finally fired together with their worthless racist staffers?

the democrats are a nightmare for americans they are unable to manage anything