Topic: What's your plan for the next bull-bear cycle? (Read 947 times)

I think I will change my coins to ethereum when the next bull comes. Right now I am afraid of doing any moves and scared of losing money to be honest from all the hectic movements but when the time comes I feel like ethereum has a bigger shot at getting much more % return of my investment then bitcoin. I honestly don't have any other idea right now.

The coins are so low that if I cash out right now it would mean I will eat a chunk of loss that I do not want to lose however as long as I keep my coins at these levels I do not really get anything in return neither with the market constantly dropping, so we are in a state of "in between zone" and can't get out. We can't sell because its low but its low so we can't make profit too. Hopefully when the next bull comes it won't be something small, I really hope it is "oh my god what happened" type of huge spike.

Many are not going to be here when the next bull market begins, it saddens me to see that many are giving up any hope in the market of cryptocurrencies because the losses that they are sustaining are so big that it is impossible for them to keep holding their coins anymore.

The plan is to make use of the current down value by investing in the coins which are available at low value and which could make you big money if they are traded in the green market. In addition, the cost of making a diverse portfolio would make the market easier to invest.

Same here , i also hold some btc and alts on my purse but im not planning to sell them now even though i trully in need of cash because it will just hurt to much .

Im also hopping that the next bull run will finally come on the year 2019 but for now , i just foccus on buying more cryptos everytime i had a spare money on my own wallet .

 
2020 and 2021 are too long to go   , im not sure if i can stil wait for that year to come but i strongly believe that btc can still recover anf pump within this year especially when we hit the month of december .

That is great. Don’t worry you will be fine and will have nice profits. It seems you have planned well for your coming days. Everyone should be prepared for profits and losses.

My plan is not really that great but it doesn't need to be as long as it gives profits, but what I'm trying to do is that I really believe that we are going to see a small correction in the price of most altcoins and I'm trying to catch that moment, if I'm right and that correction happens I will obtain some nice profits and then I will just sell those coins, buy bitcoin again and then hold it.

Very difficult to say whether this will happen or not.

For me, it doesn't really matter. I'm looking at this bear market right now as an opportunity to dollar cost average and accumulate as much coins as I can, at a rate of under $7k which I believe will look like a steal in the long term.

If the markets do get overheated again like the 2018 bull market which is quite likely, I would sell some (obviously difficult to predict where exactly it's going to end up) as everyone starts to FOMO and mainstream media turns bullish again, while buying back in after the bull market passes. But the general strategy is still holding in my opinion, I'm not rushed to sell due to the fact that I got in relatively early for the majority of my BTC, and I do believe in a possible increased adoption rate in the near future.

I still hold a bit of bitcoin to date, and I will sell it when the next bull cycle occurs. I put great trust in 2019 and I'm sure the next bull will happen there.

I can see most daytraders getting their asses handed to them in 2017. Hodlers are still hodling. And the game continues....

Like I said I've no idea what everyone's circumstances are but that particular user's - account at least - has been present for two full bubbles, from $150 to $1200 and back to $150 then $20,000.

Somewhere in there you'd hope that $6500 meant being above break even after half a decade.



No one sells at the top apart from a tiny handful of people. Most others are too greedy and hang on all the way down.

I read the word "noobs" a lot around these forums, and there seems to be what I suspect is a very wrong assumption that only "noobs" buy and sell at terrible times. A lot of big losers dabble at crypto or just watch bitcoin and other coins a long time, but get in after the pump has gone too far.

HODL-try to gain some more BTC every where possible

The bubble dynamic only makes me think of the time it will pop, I dont count any of that as a positive or a reason I will hold.   Bubble represents the end to me and I see the US dollar debt or Japan Yen central bank buying its own government debt as the ultimate reference to a bubble and what will pop and cause an outflow of value elsewhere.   BTC should be inverse not a copy of that and afaik its not a bubble or would be gone by now, it has a use believe or not some of which is unique and evolving in its usefulness to the world

There is always a previous spike before that and then we get to see a correction immediately afterwards and the year later, we always get to see some level of craziness when it comes to adoption which I believe huge growth will actually be more lurking around 2021.

However, who really cares, one thing I have always known right from the beginning is that bitcoin has always been bullish and will keep remaining being bullish, and I really do not think there would be any need to keep worrying myself of some situation I cannot change, or some situation I know whichever way, will definitely turn out good.

Bitcoin dropped last December and most of us here expected that drop. That hard life can`t be cause of bitcoin, its something that people do alone to them, they don`t understand nothing, they just bought and expected to earn a lot, without any thinking.
Bull-bear cycles are repeating all the time, keep your coins safe for future, for one of the biggest bull runs we will ever see. Everything until now will be little compared with one of the next bull runs when price go to 100,000 $ and more, that should be enough for everyone to keep their bitcoins safe until that point.

You know the perspective a lot of people tend to place on things may always get to be different and really, I wonder why someone who has actually been here through the previous thick and thins, the growth presently even at the current drop would really be having issues with now.

One thing I guess for sure, is either such a person has been living through the same level of thought, and then doing the same thing through all these years and expecting different results, which will sound strange to me, or the person has just decided to choose one difficult life for himself. Nonetheless, like you said, none of our businesses

Since almost cryptocurrencies are at low value, then obviously this is the moment to buy some because this year is about to end. I am not expecting too much next year to avoid further losses. I am about to learned more in trading just in case next year will be the same as this year.

Next bull run would  probably put my financial aspects more wiser, I've planed to dump my holdings, and probably buy some when the price again reach bearish points. Because this year had made my holding into stagnant since the price becoming lower and stabilize at the lowest level.

I'd be wiser than the prior year. I will prepare for the next bull-bear cycle. I was shocked to see the turn out for this year because this year I thought I have prepared myself for something big (referring to a bull run) little did I know and of course there is lack of market study, that bull run will not occur this year. Pardon me because it was just last year that I started to invest in bitcoin (another mistake that I made-- investing when the market is happy ). This year I will focus more on gathering sats then selling off at a good price in the next bull run.

greed means people wait for the best price to sell but that doesn't mean they don't sell on top or near it. if they didn't sell or as "figment" said only "a very few" people sold then price wouldn't have crashed at all. it is the sells of "many people" that crashes the bubble otherwise the price would continue rising.

note that things are a lot more complicated that this. the market dynamics is always changing and traders react to that.

Talking about greed, people will probably wait for ath and sell everything then the bubble will burst out. Hence, selling on top will br their goal. Demand will determine the price hence the supply and bitcoin halving will not be a factor for now.

Just note that we should know when to reap our profit.

Most of us talking about 2020. when is Bitcoin halving, but price spike usually comes year after that, so I am waiting next spike which could be in 2021. I hope that I will overcome my greed in this days.

I know everyone meanders down a different path, but you've been here for over five years now. Surely you're a little bit insulated by an earlier arrival than average? I can see how someone who turned up last December would be sad. Less so several years back. None of my business of course.

I have been living a very difficult life because of the hardships drop on the bitcoin created for me.

I am planning on getting myself a stress free situation. Right now I work every single day and sometimes work overtime with all the work I have put on myself and I still do not make nearly enough money to live. If a bull cycle happens than I will most certainly try to put as much money aside as possible and even try to get myself something that would make me decent amount of money as well.

If I can achieve that it means I won't have to worry about losing my money or living difficulty again when the next bear happens. I did not know what to do when the last years bull came and I have spend way too much thinking bitcoin will be amazing anyway but when it dropped I wasn't ready for it. So when the next bull comes I will get read for the next bear.

if demand is strong enough, it doesn't matter.

and when the bubble is happening, greed takes over. most people either sell way too low before price goes parabolic, or they wait until after price crashes out of greed. very few people get to sell the top.


gold bugs criticize it for that, and they're biased. money doesn't require underlying utility. all that does is make supply less predictable. the inelastic and linear demand from underlying commodity usage is a drop in the bucket compared to the exponentially growing value implied by metcalfe's law.

By the time we're really seeing the figures you are pointing at, the composition of the market won't be the same as it is right now, and for that reason I expect the market to no longer crash as hard as it did in the last years.

Pension funds and other legal parties are taking long term positions in that what they think has fundamental value, and they will provide enough support to protect that what they own in Bitcoin by that time.

It's very similar to the stock market actually. While people here talk about the stock market to go through a massive correction, the dips are bought up with insane volumes, which is what smart money always does.

If i were going to invest i would like to do it now but of course it could be for a long term since the market is not that good and i am just waiting for the next pump of the market. It's so seldom to find people that is so realistic in terms of idea and information though i like how they think it that way it might motivate someone but someone may feel bad if you are too straight to them.

Yes silly. With bitcoin worth lets say $200k, what is only x10 from last ATH. The last ATH was x16 from previous one. So $200k is pessimistic number.  So with $200k BTC the bitcoins marketcap is $3.5T  and if BTC dominance is 50% then whole crypto marketcap is $7T.   So after classic crash it loses 2/3 of its value so $5T.  $5T is more then will be GDP of Japan in 2020. Crypto and Bitcoin is not that innocent anymore.

well, that's just silly thinking. bitcoin is not big enough to have a small effect on economy let alone cause a world wide economical crisis!
besides the economical crisis is not something that is guaranteed to happen! it is speculated to happen and it may not. and we don't know yet what its effects are going to be on bitcoin. some say it will affect bitcoin the same way as others (meaning drop) some others say there will be a big rise instead.

That's the great unknown. The overall economic outlook has basically been unchanged - up up and more up - since this whole party started and the more people get on board, the more wider behaviour will affect BTC.

As it stands I think if world markets took a prolonged shit Bitcoin would take a bigger one. It would need a few more years before enough people thought of it as more than a cool bet.

Dont forget that next economic crisis will hit us in this cycle or soon after. Some even suspect that the Bitcoin crash of this cycle will cause next economic crisis.

I have read their plans for the next bull run, I just hope that the bull run is fast going and makes a new history for the price of bitcoin. maybe my expectations sounded very strange, but that was my real hope.

I well remember the - delusional - panic about a return to the $1000 level. Would everyone run for the exits? Same went for $10,000. Surely it would be too much to resist?

It wasn't. It made it through both with relative ease.

If things are bubbly then someone selling their $500 bitcoins is going to have an army of newcomers wanting to buy it off them for tens of thousands. And there won't be many $500 bitcoin owners left by that point.

Hate to be boring or negative even but if the plan is just to sell and everyone has a similar plan can you spot the flaw in the plan to this ever happening 

Forget personal perspective or bias on this for second, the market overall is only really going to go up with higher usage even if its just for value transfer.   Ultimately people criticise BTC for not having a greater purpose, an underlying usage such as the metals or various commodities have.   BTC has to be useful, thats the plan and its the only reason we can expect it to retain value over time is by providing a community of users that usage that is not as easily available elsewhere.

Its both simple and an ongoing challenge, I'm not certain on the outcome but BTC will need to develop as a product probably so the plan that works is unknown exactly

They say that this bullish run is now just a fantasy that the current price is the real demand now that it will never be the same last year in which the prices movement is rapidly moving up but if ever that the Bull run will come back then i will sell all my cryptos that i have kept for a long time when BTC will reach $19,000 as i'm afraid that i't might dump again missing the opportunity to sell it high again.  

I am not saying he may not be kidding with the huge numbers, but you should not be so pessimistic and expecting the worst forever, just because we are in some correction at the moment. I think sometimes, people get to focus their mind too much on the present that they let it affect their forward thinking to be able to see what the future may actually be holding.

Nothing will actually hurt you as a person once you are able to do what is right, which in this case, is to take advantage of now as an opportunity to accumulate and then look forward to the future and expect the best because that is what I see happening anyway.

I am sure most people who already know what the future holds, are already fueling up at the moment, so in that case, I am sure some smart people are doing the right thing. It is how you see the future of something that will matter in the way you get to approach it, which in most cases, this has to do with your mindset and your belief that the future is bright for what you are holding. Bull run may not even come this year, but one thing I am pretty sure of is that at some point later on, it will definitely come around, which is why as some are panicking, some are seeing this moment as an opportunity for the long term.

I had a lot of plans to do when that bull run bear cycle happens, it just that my coins were stacked on the trading site which I cannot sell. For now that plan includes holding and also planned to buy cheaper coins, and wait for it's value to increase soon when market will going to recover at profitable price.

My plan is relatively simple since holding my coins right now is not giving me profits I will try to become a trader, I know it is not easy but this is something that I have been thinking for a long time and I have taken the necessary steps to try to become successful at that activity, if that works my holdings of bitcoin will go up and by the time the next bull market appears I will have more bitcoin than what I have now.

The market condition is unpredictable but day traders and short term traders are still participate in trading platform so we should not predict how it will going to move in future but right traders are always make profit in crypto investment. I also suggest to invest in cryptocurrency because this will make un expectable profit in future.

I am expecting that the next bitcoin cycle will be bull and since it will be bullish.  In trading you should no that bitcoin is seem to be at the bottom now and if you want to invest you should do now before the market taking another direction.  Many people will not invest now because of what has happened before and your fears is very justified.

Ups and downs are there every single day whenever you talk about bitcoin. There are people who think bitcoin old jump very soon so if that is really going to happen or if it has more solid chances, then get your plan ready peeps. We shouldn’t leave this stone turned out uselessly. Keep things ready for this bull run. Enough of being ruined and waiting in bear run.

You gotta be kidding with that great numbers you were speculating. The market now looks bad so definitely more people will not likely to invest and besides  we had only few days or weeks to count for the bull run. I think the speculations of the many will not going to happen that bitcoin will make its peak again. Anyway, it is better to have this kind of speculation because this might add the hype of bitcoin market price. And I am also investing in some crypto so I will be happy also if speculations will going to happen.

I am just less expecting so it could not hurt when things will not go well.

My plan still holds to waiting for the bull market, even though the market takes a long time to recover, then I will be patient to hold the coin that I have.

Most of the wise investors may have the same thinking, they may be managing how to collect more and more bitcoin, because bitcoin price has still too much potential and I hope that its price will very soon start increasing and will surely com back to its original position.

That is very good, you have a very good  strategy and I think that if you will continue it I hope that a time will come when bitcoin will give you a very good profit. In fact we are expecting something extra from bitcoin and I think that it is always good to hold bitcoin in future.

I know its the number one currency but i have some doubt with bitcoins. Right now i hold some coins XMR and ETH i have bitcoin too but i don't want to buy them more.

If most holders have the same decision as you, to sell their assets massively, of course it will make a big dump in the market and maybe the price will fail to rise again and it will weaken again, because that is what happened a while ago, when prices rose to $8k then massive selling occurs and prices weaken again

in my opinion, bitcoin prices can reach $ 30k in the next bull market, even many people say that the price of bitcoin can reach $ 50k - $ 100k.

There are no plans for that, I just continue to work and collect bitcoin for the next bull market preparation. I don't want to be sorry like last year, when the bull market happened, I only had a little bitcoin.

For me reaching bitcoin price at $100k is a dream come true to those holders and believers of bitcoin as they can enjoy the fruit of being a bitcoin lovers. This is the reason that I should buy bitcoin while the price is still affordable and hold it until it reach that level.

i love volatility thats how i get easy money dong margin trading putong long or short positions, but the downside of it is that its not healthy for the market though, and we are seeing it now this past few weeks the price of bitcoin going sideways  until the etf will be decided then. there a lot of incertainty right now.

I keep my trade up with alt coins because buying bitcoin right now is to much risk. I Will buy some bitcoin when the price start increasing. Most of people prediction that it will decrease more now i am afraid to investing in bitcoins.

Well my plan is to do what I do everyday in crypto holding,buying and selling it depends in the situation but I much love to make a good profit. Hopefully in a next bear-bull cycle we see a less volatile in the market and much more people will be wise for their holdings.

Not a bad idea. But I don't feel like playing a guessing game as to when mini crashed will occur, I'm just playing the long cycle, selling from like $80k on up. In case it really goes crazy and goes to like $200k I'm gonna maybe sell like 2/3rds of my stash around $100k, hopefully average a bit over $100k, and then try to hold on to the other third in case it goes way higher than I expect on the bull run. I am very confident it will hit $100k though so I ain't trying to mess around with the price movements within the bull run.

I probably will not be able to wait for the price to reach 100K before starting to cash out some of my bitcoins. I will be cashing out gradually in 20K increments and accumulating more bitcoin when the price dumps a bit. There are a lot of mini bull runs that we can take advantage of, and I think that is a better way than just holding until it reach 100K.

As for me, having plans to that next bull bear cycle always depends on the actual trend that may occur day by day because we can't really be certain on our expectations. All was just based on how the demand cycle also works, and if ever the survival rate on those holders who stay to have strong dedications that bitcoin will successfully reach that desired was too lean.
Planning is the best options to do rather than thinking negative speculations, so its better to maintain a calm emotions during next cycle. Hopefully more people will learn from the mistakes they had, and I guess those FUD listeners really been gaining that enough knowledge after all.

If things are looking muscular again I will definitely be taking a percentage off the table. I really should've last time around but couldn't be bothered which I regret somewhat now. It depends on how high the price would reach but I'd go up to 50%.

I don't think much'll happen until halving time and even then halvingness might have lost its potency. It's only happened twice so far so people shouldn't bet everything on it.

I am still considering buying more and more recently because the price has been incredibly good looking and I really just can't stop myself from using my bitcoin to buy altcoins so I still want to have some bitcoin too. I need to have both some bitcoins and keep my altcoins so I could logically sell them anywhere close to their all time high prices, if it ever goes there I will be cashing them out probably 10% or so lesser than their all time high prices and get out from them.

I am already working and getting paid in bitcoin which would probably cause more bitcoins in my pockets over time anyway and I would probably make decent amount in the next year by just working but I also want to keep it invested in there as long as it is low like today's price but I am not mad and I won't keep it in at the ATH prices and get it out, I did that last year too, sold all my coins at during the peak $20k prices.

Well, in this market, everything is an opportunity and for what it is worth, seeing opportunities like this, I would not be wasting it at all. Depending on the movement of the market in most cases, and being a trader, I really would not want to be wasting much time in offloading in the cases of a bull run and most especially, if it is the case of a bull run that is speculative in nature. Honestly, I hope we actually get to see another bull to happen.

Once I get to see the starting of the bull run, I will just keep monitoring the trend, but once I see greed kicking in, I will start offloading bit by bit knowing there will possibly be another imminent correction afterwards. I am a swing trader anyway, and I take advantage of the trend, so in each case, and depending on when I see the trend changing, I will hold until then and sell off when I see there would be a chance to buy lower.

I would not be so quick to start dumping though, I will be patient enough to see the trend, but in most cases, when there is a sign of the market pinning the sky for no reason, this is when fear for me usually kick in. Like I always do, sell when everyone is buying and getting greedy and then buy when everyone is busy selling. Has always worked brilliantly for me like magic.

it's definitely saturated right now, that's true. but so was 2017 vs 2014 (the first alt spring). it's also less about saturation of the entire altcoin market and more about what's listed on relevant exchanges. lots of shit tokens and shitcoins don't get ever get listed anywhere---no point worrying about those.

at the moment, i couldn't tell you, because i haven't looked at the alt market in 6+ months. that's a lifetime in crypto. i'll be doing significant research when i see accumulation across the market and the beginnings of a bull run. see what the twittersphere and prominent altcoin miners are watching, hash rate fundamentals, hype/marketing propensity (this is key), supply analysis, sector analysis, etc. i would watch for sector rotation like stock markets; i noticed this in 2017. DEX and privacy coins are two areas i expect to blow up during the next run.

the big gainers are going to be micro-caps and low-caps. i might allocate some portfolio space to large cap coins when the alt spring is in full swing, but i emphasize spreading funds around to <$10-20 million cap coins. the large caps have already seen the "big gains" so their volatility declines, similar to BTC.

some of my coins will go nowhere i'm sure but a couple big trades will eclipse the losses/lack of gains from those. i'm also not worried about "real fundamentals" so much. i'm not looking for long term holds here. i'm just trying to ride pumps while the market is hot.

Very well said regarding this idea, and I wanted to add up an opinion towards the bull bear cycle which we're entitle to be part of the current market situations. Many of us struggled so much, so we need to think of saving those remaining bitcoin's that we had. Unlike what you said here you're a bitcoin spender, and I respected that. All I just want to say here is we should be stable on our principles and never give up with your determinations in order to build that strong foundation of success.

Personally, I will sell large amounts if I have to do so, and when I see trend changing. I have never had a problem doing that, I have been a trader all my life and I am always taking advantage of the market fluctuations to keep stashing my bitcoin for the long run. At least, it is an edge to always have some knowledge to know how to play the market.

I would not be so fast in selling though, I will be looking at the reaction of the market, and when the bull run will probably start, it is likely we will get towards $200k somehow, and this is when I really want to start selling bit by bit and once I see a trend change, I just offload the rest, and wait to buy lower. Same cycle. If the whales want to play their card, I best just play with them to my own favor.

It depends on price levels (the extent of the bull run) and my personal situation at that time, I have always had to plan to transition a lot of my money in crypto over to a more stable asset at some point if possible but for that I would still need the market to grow quite substantially. Largely now I am invested in high potential return alts so there's a chance I can reach that goal, if I don't then I'm not sure. One thing I am sure of is that whatever happens I will always leave more in crypto than I initially invested because there is still a lot of potential for further growth.

Good question. I wasn't that holder type though, because I'm one of those who spent bitcoin as money (paying bills thru it or even buying things online if available). Anyways, guess I have a choice now, to earn or purchase even small amounts and wait to make a good profit when the bull run starts next year. Its not late to accumulate as much as we can so see you on the other side of the fence 

This your level of optimism is something that I cannot imagine. Its really rare to see. While its nice to be optimistic about the situation of things, I think its also important to be weary of the reality that surrounds such proposition. Currently we have been grappling with the $6000+ for months now and there is no sign that we are moving forward on that. To then now start to imagine a price of $100K in 2 years is not only farfetched but also means avoiding the reality.

I have lost confidence in the arrival of the bull market. I am ready to deal with the long-term bear market, trading daily and focusing more on bounty activities than on long-term trading!

I don't see any reasons why I should change anything in my strategies so I would stick to the same strategy that I have had for the past 4+ years that I have been involved with bitcoin. and that is to accumulate more, sell some only when I see the bubble and the inevitable correction (drop) of it. and buy back what I sold and sometimes even more at the bottom of the dip so that I have not touched the initial investment and I take the profit out only.
additionally I will continue enjoying the altcoin pump and dumps as they increase my small bitcoin wealth more and more.

My plan is to earn as much bitcoins as possible and HODL.
I will sell only if the bitcoin price goes above last years ATH.
I should be more focused on my fiat money earning activities,like affiliate/CPA marketing and my SEO business.
This will help me buy more bitcoins in the near future.

i have always sold as much as i needed to and will continue to do the same. i will never sell large amounts just because price is over a certain level! even if it was $10 million i would still sell as much as i needed to. because i believe in the future of bitcoin not just its price. i believe it will reach mass adoption in a sense that you would be able to spend it almost anywhere in the world in any shop so you wouldn't need to sell it!

I just want to use one bitcoin to buy a full apartment.

Lol. You registered here 2013 so you've been around long enough that if you had those kind of balls and skillz you'd already be retired. You will roll with the next pump similarly to the way you rolled the last one most likely.

Which altcoins would you really risk it at the end of the day? It's an huge risk. Im a big maximalist myself but I also think about risking a small % of BTC trying to hit one of these x10-100x home runs, but at this point in the altcoin market it feels like playing the casino/lottery.

LTC is out of the picture for me. Now that LN and segwit is on, I don't see the attractive anymore, unless fees start getting ridiculous again before LN is widely used.

XMR remains a good niche for the anonymous coin thing I guess, a lot of people think that so it may be a good idea to hold some of these.

ETH is a mess but it has insane levels of marketing, on the global conscience of market participants I feel like ETH will continue being a pretty big project until it has a fatal technical failure.. perhaps during the up and coming hardfork clusterfuck to PoS.

The rest of the coins are just Las Vegas unless someone has found some rough diamonds that im not aware, but I just see altcoin bagholders pumping their bags everywhere.

it really depends on the altcoin market cycle and how it interplays with bitcoin's next bull cycle.

when money is flowing into altcoins, that's where i'll be. spreading risk across promising low-caps, i'll be looking for a few 10x-100x moves and rolling the gains back into bitcoin.

when money is flowing into bitcoin, 5x-10x longs all day. nothing like finding long entries on the 1min-5min charts during bubble times.

when things get frothy enough, i'll start scaling out of bitcoin (hopefully with enough to retire comfortably) over the course of a 2-3 weeks. $100k sounds really low. i'm expecting minimum $250k, and probably much higher based on past cycles.

I agree with this

I will always hold a chunk of my overall total wealth in bitcoin and spend it when I can, unfortunately its difficult to do that because of tax laws and merchant acceptance.

Sure, I can go to purse.io and buy things on amazon but that is still triggering a tax event and going through a third party. I want to be able to spend my bitcoin without a company in the middle like it was designed for and not have the IRS hunting me down for buying a cup of coffee. There really needs to be some tax reform in crypto.

I think the best way to plan is basically do a dollar cost average sell and buy. That way you might not sell everything at the top or buy everything at the bottom, but at least some of your positions will be in good standing.

In my opinion, the best way to trade a bull market is to buy altcoins instead, they can rally like crazy. How much did Bitcoin rally last year? It went from $1K to $20K, so about 20x. But look at XRP, it went like 140X or so. It was the best profitable coin ever. And it has a large enough market cap so you can also short it after its done making its crazy gains.

I'm sticking with my classic way on how to deal myself into crypto market as you said we have different dealings with this matter.If our own ways on last years or previous ones is quite effective(Profitable) on you then
you should stick on your own ways not just easily shift when you do hear out someones analysis or feedbacks or way reacting too much where theres a news. Do the basic thing and don't get affected too much on things
here on crypto market.

If they had those plans for the future, that's not a very challenging since we're at the end days of 2018. More people always desired to hold their asset for no matter how hard for them to manage their worries against crypto. However, the positive ideas from this forum gave them additional confidence to face the current problems.

very nice plan, just pray it works out in that way.  I have a plan of holding about 10% of my total holding both bitcoin and altcoins for a very long time and I think I could be able to hold them till 2027. We really need a long term view in other to be among the rich in future.  Your financial future beginning from the amount of money you put in cryptocurrencies market now and forget about it for the next 10 year. .
Days are coming and that days are going to show who are the wealthiest in the land.  Many of us  that can hold some units of any altcoins now and holds them for long-term will be among the millionaire in future.

Really, a stable coin? I mean a stable coin is designed to track USD, so it wouldn't be any different than having a bunch of cash, you're not gonna make any money off of it, unless you just mean you want to spend it as crypto instead of fiat.


I don't think that is optimistic target and wishful thinking. All signs point to a new bull market incoming. Note that I don't mean a 2017 crazy bull run, I'm saying it will START in the coming months (1-6 months). Basically 2019 will roughly correlate to 2016 with the price heading back up to the ATH before things go crazy in 2020. Bear market is over, we are in the transition phase now, which can only last so long, so the next bull run is incoming and it ain't gonna take a year to start, even the last really long cycle it was only like 9 months transition period. And with Wall St building services to enter the market and the fact that attention to the market is so much higher than in 2015 this transition phase that we are already 1.5 months into will last far shorter than the ~9 months it did in 2015. Q1 is very likely for bull run to start. Writing is on the wall.

Ugh yeah in terms of taxes, I'm really not looking forward to trying to figure out all my trades. I started to do it earlier this year and it was just a mess.

My mindset is still the same as before, "just accumulate while I can" and always take chances at every opportunity that will came to me.

No matter what's the predictions, no matter how good or bad the speculations, no matter what's the trend is (uptrend or downtrend, bull or bear), it will not changed my purpose why Im here in crypto, to used it as a currency and to used it as an investment (although I don't really used the term investment in crypto). So no such thing as literal "plan". Just moving forward and going with the current flow.

Everyone is waiting for their own criteria of "moon price" and we have different way of dealing with that. Just hoping that everyone will have a good result out of their own analyzations and future plan.

Optimistic targets and wishful thinking for a bull run in the coming months....but I am with you man. I hope things start looking better soon.

Less volatile tech stocks are a good option, personally I am looking at putting some money into some pot stocks, the rest I would probably just put in a traditional 401k.

But honestly most of it will go to a reliable stable coin that is trustworthy, taxes will always be a nightmare, im hoping there is better guidance next bull run.

What's your plan for holding, selling, trading, spending for the next few years now that we will likely be starting a new bull-bear cycle in the next few months?

I think the next peak will be between $100k and $200k and likely occur in 2020, so my plan is to probably sell most of my Bitcoin hopefully averaging just over $100k. Will probably start selling around $80k just to make sure I get some good profits in case the run doesn't go as high as I think. Probably will just keeping 1 Bitcoin for like the long long term (with a plan to spend it on the LN over many years in the 2020s and 2030s). The next bull run should get to my own "moon" prices in which it makes sense to take substantial profits.

Most of what I sell in the coming bull run will go to set myself up financially in the less volatile stock market for the future (hopefully the coming stock market crash & recession will be timed perfectly so the market is still pretty low as Bitcoin is booming so I can take profits and then move into a stock market that is significantly down - in fact the stock market crash could bolster the bitcoin boom as they will likely line up pretty well the next two years). But I will keep some of those profits around to try to buy back at least one Bitcoin in the following crash to sell again during the following bull cycle.

So for me its basically sell most of my Bitcoin, keep a little for years to come to eventually spend when Bitcoin is in use as a currency, and use some profits to play the long term trade game and buy back some on the following crash in a few years.