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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

There are often cycles in the market that have been clearly following each other for years. A bear trend is followed by a market recovery, and a recovery is always followed by a bull run, a bull run is always followed by a bear trend, etc. There are market trends and there are altcoin trend hypes, but that's something else. Altcoin trend hypes can start at any time of a market trend, be it bearish or bullish, but you can never predict or predict the beginning of such trends.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on April 20, 2023, 08:15:27 PM

For me, this is very common especially with now a lot of social media platforms where people can interact and these people will start to make new trends based on what is really trending right then that will birth a lot of content like jokes, memes, theories, and many more.
Let's take for example the bear season and bull season, which there's no official basis of these seasons.

Yeah right. Even now that bitcoin has plummeted people saying its the start of another bear again well in fact we have just experiencing such set back from market gains for the last few weeks which I think is healthy too to have a good market conditions. Its not like a straight movement is always on the path sometimes some pull back can help to recognize a good set up for all crypto market.

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It's simply based on what trend that is happening right now. So many people become so crazy due to the arb shit token. That means if we are in the meme season but it doesn't mean meme coin is the only trend right now. The fact that if there was also another trend that is running at the same time. Some trends can happen in one time. That's why people may be overused with it. People may call meme season, altcoin season and many more.

Meme season is under the altcoin season but it's more likely called a trend. Every altcoin season has different trends and one of them we saw is the meme craze or trends.
There will be more in the future and that's for sure and this is what's happening in the market every time we get to see the bull run approaching.
And right now, we're on the trend of AI.

While it is true that roughly each year a new type of coin will get hyped, unfortunately this has not brought the development we would have liked, and what better example of this than NFTs, the NFT hype was huge and suddenly many people wanted a piece of the cake and they released a bunch of NFTs too.

But nothing came out of it, scammers became rich or they simply found a way to justify some of the money they earned thought their previous scams, while those which were dumb enough to invest in that market got completely burned, and now it is the turn of AI coins and most likely we will watch the same pattern emerge once again.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

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When altcoin comes back then altcoin season and when bitcoin pumped it will be its season.

For me, this is very common especially with now a lot of social media platforms where people can interact and these people will start to make new trends based on what is really trending right then that will birth a lot of content like jokes, memes, theories, and many more.
Let's take for example the bear season and bull season, which there's no official basis of these seasons.

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Quote from: Iyeman on April 20, 2023, 06:33:03 PM

It's simply based on what trend that is happening right now. So many people become so crazy due to the arb shit token. That means if we are in the meme season but it doesn't mean meme coin is the only trend right now. The fact that if there was also another trend that is running at the same time. Some trends can happen in one time. That's why people may be overused with it. People may call meme season, altcoin season and many more.

Meme season is under the altcoin season but it's more likely called a trend. Every altcoin season has different trends and one of them we saw is the meme craze or trends.
There will be more in the future and that's for sure and this is what's happening in the market every time we get to see the bull run approaching.
And right now, we're on the trend of AI.

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It's simply based on what trend that is happening right now. So many people become so crazy due to the arb shit token. That means if we are in the meme season but it doesn't mean meme coin is the only trend right now. The fact that if there was also another trend that is running at the same time. Some trends can happen in one time. That's why people may be overused with it. People may call meme season, altcoin season and many more.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

I am interested into the crypto space and following it since around the end of 2017 and since then most market movements could definitely be clustered in seasons. Usually when a bullrun is happening, then Bitcoin is the first coin that is pumping. This usually is going on for a few weeks or so, of course with short periods of time in between with small corrections. Then after Bitcoin the big altcoins are starting to pump this also goes on for a few weeks or so and then at last basically every project that is listed is pumping. When this is happening we always were on the height of the bullrun and the big dump was already nearing.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

No, termed season are referring to which hype now are being implicated. Like right now, most of the shitcoin are pumping and some already coined it "shitcoin season" which is due to pumping tokens that are came from airdrops and even past shitcoin which has been revive or due to hype.

When altcoin comes back then altcoin season and when bitcoin pumped it will be its season.

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And there are only 2 "seasons": Summer (Bull) and Winter (Bear).

Someone might disagree with me as there are no real definitions to my knowledge to these terms. They are just memes from long time ago

True, as far as I know there are only the bull and the bear markets, which are the only seasons available on this environment. They are always ignited by a major movement in Bitcoin's price. If BTC goes up, we enter a bullish season and if Bitcoin goes down we enter a bearish season.

Altcoins don't have any influence on this process. It's quite the opposite, they are heavily influenced by the process.

I think what OP says about altcoin, memecoin, NFT seasons could be replaced by altcoin, memecoin, NFT hypes, what is also a consequence of the seasons, but not the seasons themselves.

I would say that it is a combined effort and not just bitcoin. I know everyone thinks that bitcoin going up means alts going up as well, but sometimes alts do matter in the process as well.

Luna crashing made bitcoin fall too, or FTX crashing made bitcoin fall too (albeit there was btc in that case too) so I would say that if there is alts that go down, we saw bitcoin go down as well and I am sure the opposite is true. I am not saying alts make bitcoin move, I am just saying that it is an overall thing and I believe that it should be a bit worrisome to never look at alts when you are looking for seasons. If it is alt season that means bitcoin had something to do with it, but if btc went up, then alts had something to do with that too.

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Quote from: o48o on April 14, 2023, 03:41:05 PM

And there are only 2 "seasons": Summer (Bull) and Winter (Bear).

Someone might disagree with me as there are no real definitions to my knowledge to these terms. They are just memes from long time ago

True, as far as I know there are only the bull and the bear markets, which are the only seasons available on this environment. They are always ignited by a major movement in Bitcoin's price. If BTC goes up, we enter a bullish season and if Bitcoin goes down we enter a bearish season.

Altcoins don't have any influence on this process. It's quite the opposite, they are heavily influenced by the process.

I think what OP says about altcoin, memecoin, NFT seasons could be replaced by altcoin, memecoin, NFT hypes, what is also a consequence of the seasons, but not the seasons themselves.

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Everything is just mere speculation that's why you really need to understand that they are just giving their own opinions regarding certain coins, so you need to consider doing your own personal research as well as the term they are using to lure people into investing in their project. Because when it comes to altcoins, you will find lots of theories and speculations, especially from those who are investing in some coins, they often say good things about those coins. Also, they talk wrong about some coins to lure other investors to get on to invest in their project, so you better be careful because it doesn't mean when it is altcoin season, all the altcoin's prices will rise.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

IMO, the "altcoin season" in the crypto market is when cryptocurrencies other than Bitcoin start to appreciate sharply, creating great interest and liquidity in the investment community. Often altcoin season occurs after Bitcoin has experienced a steady uptrend or a slight decline in price. I think altcoin season can be a good opportunity for investors to diversify their crypto investments. However, it should be noted that altcoins are more volatile than Bitcoin, which means higher risk for investors. Therefore, investors should have a careful investment strategy and not invest too much in a particular coin.
Investing in cryptocurrencies is a process that requires knowledge and experience in the financial markets. Before investing any amount, investors need to carefully study the market and constantly update new information to make a reasonable investment decision.

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Thanks for all the responses, interesting stuff, food for thought...

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

Yes, some variable is predictable and follow the same path, for example about spending, people spend more in Q4 and spend less in Q1, that's because "holiday season" when people want to enjoy their one-year-long work at the end of the year, and nothing more to spend at the beginning of the new year. However, not every "season" is equally reproducible.

In your case, about meme-coin season and stuff, it's different than the seasonality I've been talking about. The meme coin or altcoin season is simply jargon, the more accurate term should be a trend, in it's a short-lived one. I mean meme-coin trend only last a few weeks/months without any reproducibility, thus next year there will be no meme-coin "season" IMO.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

I do think that it is right. There is no set thing like real seasons. For example winter is not as cold as it used to be and yet spring is getting colder, we didn't start calling April winter though, we still call that spring. Which means that it is set and it won't be changing, or it requires something much bigger to change it at least, like the whole world getting together, plus its summer in south hempishere as well.

All in all I would be guessing that seasons in crypto is nothing alike, if it is a bull period it is a bull period, doesn't matter when that happens, we all know thats it. Which is why I am assuming that the seasons part is true and it is something that should continue to be used and I think it changes based on who you ask anyway.

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There are only two seasons in crypto markets. These seasons are referred to as the Bull and Bear season. These seasonal transitions can be much harsher in the crypto markets. Subjects that are temporary hype will continue to exist. Whatever the hype is, or if it has a new technology, it can be the focus of attention of investors, so demand occurs as soon as possible.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

More precisely it is a term that many people use to describe a trend in cryptocurrencies. Like for example what happened a while ago, the bear season, it's to show that the market is in a state we don't want to see, because the market price fell from its ATH in the past. Actually something like this shouldn't be an issue because it's just an illustration, everyone may have their own term, it's just that the more popular term to describe the situation in this cryptocurrency is "season".

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

Just simplyfy it, there are two seasons which is bull when the market keeps increasing and bear the market will keep decreasing and this mainly follows a cycle which is about 4 years now but in future we may expect the cycle to be lower timeframe. You need the evidence just open CMC or any similar site and open bitcoin price chart then choose life time frame and zoom in to view the both seasons one after another and who knows we are still at the bear trend or bull so that unpredictability is the beauty.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

This whole "seasons" thing is bullshit, and it's mostly just a hype created. Like, sure, there are times when certain types of coins seem to be doing better than others, but to call it a "season" might be a stretch. I think a lot of the time, it's just shillers and people behind those shit coins trying to drum up some excitement and FOMO. They want people to think "Oh, it's memecoin season, I better buy in now before I miss out! I will invest $1,000 now, few months later I will have a million dollar sitting on my protfolio." But really, there's no solid evidence that these "seasons" actually exist or follow any particular order. So yeah, I'd say let's take the whole "seasons" thing with a grain of salt and focus more on fundamentals and actual market trends. That's my two cents anyway.

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The term "seasons" in cryptography is commonly used to describe periodic changes in the cryptocurrency market, when certain types of cryptocurrencies become more popular and attractive to investors.
Some people may have their theories about what type of cryptocurrencies will be the next "season", but this is most likely based on their own experience and market analysis, and not on any strict rules or theories.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

Its just a term made by the folks here to denote a specific time, like "Open Season" indeed it is more of a name than anything else. Nobody knows when the good times to buy/sell will happen and people tend to use the older years to predict these but truly speaking its not a 100% science.

It a neologism but it keep coming back because people like it and it becomes an easy way to denote the time. For bitcoin maximalists like us, it has little significance and it would be better for people to not follow these trends because they can be misleading, rather watch the charts and decide on your own.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

It's literally what the term means, a period where certain events would happen, and in most cases, the first word before it would describe what events would actually happen. There's also no order for it really, it's just what people label whenever a period of time basically has the same hyped event. Most people usually use it for bull and bear seasons which is a general description of it, and in all honestly that's probably all you need. The rest are just, if I were to describe it, a "sub-season" for bull and bear seasons that target a more specific say, asset/s.

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Honestly I don't get too hung up on the concept people are talking about, there's a lot of things in the market that we've come up with. However, my alternative view of bull and bear market cycles, remaining regardless of the accompanying terms, only adds to the complexity. We all see it happening from time to time and how people are reacting to the market, and speculation should stop at speculation because it's not entirely certain, especially with the market so full. current volatility.

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Altcoin season is real, it is the time that any shit, I mean shitcoin will pump hard and one of the things that accompanied it, is that a high number of scam coins will enter the space and people will lose money to them. It is the peak of the bull market where people stop using commonsense including VCs throwing money at any shining thing in the space

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

I think the evidence for the argument this market has seasons is very solid, just look at the charts and you will realize that even if the price of bitcoin does not move in the exact same way it shows similar patterns each four years.

Now what I was not aware was that some people mentioned the existence of meme coins season or the like, and when it comes to those coins it is true that they may show some extremely good performance from time to time, however since no periodicity can be inferred from those movements then it is incorrect to talk about the existance of seasons when it comes to those coins.

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Whoops, forgive my naivety; I only know about the altcoin season. All I know about the altcoin season is that it's a season where bitcoin's dominance score is gradually diminishing, which shows that people are starting to switch to investing in altcoins since bitcoin itself has already passed its all-time high. People are searching for an alternative to find another way to gain profits. They sell their bitcoins, buy cheap altcoins, wait for their price to rise, and then sell. Usually people get hyped to buy any altcoin in this altcoin season since many altcoins will bloom. Many newcomers get FOMO and jump in to find their position. The altcoin market has turned green, and more people are interested in trading.

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The signal of it to say that we're on that actual season is the market's visibility of being green for these altcoins and thus, the term is being used.

And you know that the language and slangs that's being used on this community are too many. So, don't be too focused with those slangs/slurs but be focused on learning how to adapt with the changes in the market if these trends have come.

Because from there, you'll get to see some ideas and signs if we're about to enter another bull run or such.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

It varies on the time when a certain project comes high and gives hype to the community. Like what it happened to Shiba Inu and Dogecoin had pumped out while the rest of the altcoins are still quite sleeping, and they called it meme coins season. I'd never think it was overuse OP, it will depend on how you called that particular time as this usually use to determine the market cycle like bull season and bear season. Besides, you can call them in a different way but this is already known to the market, and that sounds okay.

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Well the issue here is not the misuse of the season but the fear of missing out that this sort of informations causes in the cryptocurrency industry.

I believe we can be hopeful but speaking about the bull run happening or any season what so ever by just speculations can really cause FUD and FOMO in the cryptocurrency market. Many newbies has lost by follow such speculations.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

This is just their reference for the up trend, and as we can see right now Altcoins are doing great along with Bitcoin so we can consider this as a crypto season where many starts to adopt cryptocurrency and the result is the up trend. Don’t be confused and just focus on what matters here, continue to analyze and you can be good. Better to take advantage with the situation now, and have some profit.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

It's just the cycle though, bull run and bear market season. I think for this market, altcoin season might be the pattern that it might break away from Bitcoin's own bull run. We all know that every altcoin is based on Bitcoin or at least their is a relationship between the two as every altcoin is a trading partner with Bitcoin. So if we same altcoin season, the market is on a bull run regardless if Bitcoin is on it's own bull run or not. And in the altcoin bull run, not only that it try to detach itself from Bitcoin, but maybe it's run is significant higher that Bitcoin itself. So if Bitcoin can let say in a day increased to 10%, in altcoin season, this market is going crazy like 20% or higher uptick in a 24 hour timeframe.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 14, 2023, 01:48:42 PM

One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

Altcoin season is just another term for a long term bullrun that covers most of different altcoins. I haven't heard the phrase memecoin season, i think that's invented by someone who wants to hype memecoins. I would call "memecoin season" as a meme coin trend. Difference to season would be that trends are very much shorter.

And there are only 2 "seasons": Summer (Bull) and Winter (Bear).

Someone might disagree with me as there are no real definitions to my knowledge to these terms. They are just memes from long time ago

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One rather overused term in crypto are "seasons". I admit getting sometimes a bit lost whether we have now "altcoin season", "memecoin season" or whatever else. There are also people who have theories about which season follows which. Was wondering - is their anything more than anecdotal evidence for the existence and order of said "seasons"?

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