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Topic: When BTC up, Why ALTCOIN suddenly down .? (Read 1018 times)

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November 10, 2017, 07:23:57 AM
#47
1. When BTC is raising, people are moving capital because they are greedy and inpatient, they hope they will earn more on BTC.
2. Price in BTC is falling but price in USD stays, I do not have chart now, but on tradingview you can create chart where you can create formula to see it even only on BTC - with capitals
3. some people are spreading hype to sell high
4. some people are spreading panic to buy low
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November 10, 2017, 07:18:02 AM
#46
When BTC goes up, altcoin goes down because most of altcoins depends on BTC's price. For example, ETH's price is equal to 0.04 BTC and when BTC increases its price, the ETH's price will go down because it needs to follow the price rate. We can say that altcoins are inversely proportional to BTC's price so when BTC goes up, altcoins go down.
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November 10, 2017, 02:18:24 AM
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It's like the old habit, when it goes up down the altcoin will go down. it's because people sell their altcoin to get btc.
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November 09, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
#44
I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter


I think that what happens is that there is a limited amount of money currently moving in crypto and when bitcoin goes up it absorbs a lot of money from the market and that leaves a very low amount of money for alts and that makes the price of all alts to go down, but I think we are going to see a small decrease in the price of bitcoin and that is going to make alts to go up in the short term.
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November 09, 2017, 04:17:32 PM
#43
Bitcoins increase the price of most investors will immediately withdraw from the altcoin to bitcoin to increase profits so if you notice, when the bitcoint price increase, the volume of the altcoin suddenly dropped to altcoin will discount. At times altcoin along with bitcoin price increase
Money could stay in BTC, it depends on the people that were wanting to see how much the network improved because of it.
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November 09, 2017, 09:10:29 AM
#42
BTC is considered the "standard" in the crypto world and it usually drags the market along it. It has the highest market capitalization (over 100 billion) and the other half belongs to all other coins. Since BTC is so well capitalized (there is so much money invested in it) it tends to work as a "hedge" against other coins. What that means is, that when BTC is going up in the past alts where going down and vice versa, but now that BTC is gaining more market share again we're seeing the opposite, that alts move according to BTC (if that goes up, alts go up as well). Having said that, traders still try to find a balance between BTC and alternatives, so when money is flowing out of BTC it usually goes to other coins (there are many good potential projects out there who can gain millions and billions in capitalization in the close future).
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November 08, 2017, 09:51:03 PM
#41
When bitcoin growing and altcoin go down it is fork fault. People sell own altcoins for buy as many as possible bitcoin for get bitcoin gold who can give great profit. It is all
The hard fork is one of the reasons why Bitcoin is getting pumped and there is nothing that people here can do about it. Just wait it out.
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November 08, 2017, 07:54:32 PM
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Well before sometime... There was the opposite, if BTC went down all Alts went to! Now after the first hard fork ,when everybody got free money from bitcoin cash, there was another fork on the way... So everybody took out their money from alt coins and put them in BTC in order to get again free money. The second fork never happen and now all these people will put their money again back to alts and new ICOs...
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November 08, 2017, 05:21:51 PM
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Peopleare converting their alts to get btc in order to earn more on segwit2x fork, that's why, but unfortunately, segwit2x has been canceled, so money will be flowing back into alts
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November 08, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
#38
It’s kinda simple actually . It’s about the way money flows. When bitcoin starts to gain some value all investors take their money from alt coins and invest it in bitcoin. That helps bitcoin gain even more value. In the other hand when people take their money from alt coins they lose value.
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November 08, 2017, 10:57:09 AM
#37
i think it's because the money goes from altcoins to btc.
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November 08, 2017, 08:12:30 AM
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When btc up againts dollar alt coin will probably down againts bitcoin. There are many type altcoin

1. Down againt bitcoin but still same value to dollar
2. Up againts bitcoin too and ofcourse it also up againts dollar
3. Down againt bitcoin and also againts dollar ( usually its erc20 token, the price goes down if ethereum also goes down againts dollar and btc )
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November 07, 2017, 07:52:33 PM
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Most of the people holding Altcoins trade them into BTC, as they are preparing for the upcoming bitcoin fork which an expected market price of the latter (BTC) might happen. If there's more demand due to this kind of event then supply will suddenly increase its price. Once its all over, which I believe will last for a quarter or until 1st qtr. nxt year, btc price will be constant with a few ups and downs and thats the time altcoin prices will regain its composure.
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November 07, 2017, 07:42:57 PM
#34
How to control altcoins. Control Bitcoin.
And how to control Bitcoin. Control devs and company that is developing and maintain Bitcoin.
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November 07, 2017, 05:55:25 PM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter



For many bitcoin and altcoin are substitutes and thus as the price of one is increasing they substitute their holdings of the one in to the other. So when bitcoin price is trending upwards people are keen to get a hold of it and so they dump their altcoins to free up funds.
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November 07, 2017, 05:20:36 PM
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How do you know it will be worth more than 1000 USD? You surely know more about BTC as I only got my blockchain fever a couple of months ago but this fork really got me worried. It does not look to me as if this fork will just follow the pattern of previous one. It feels more like a serious power struggle. On a different note I am not worried for the ALTs in general or Ethereum. Quite the opposite.
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November 07, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
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Most of the cryptocurrency day traders have no bank accounts to access their fiat, but they are free to pair trade with Bitcoin, they are mining altcoins

To dump for Btc, and there are some people holding the majority of some coins, a week from now when Bitcoin will have a hard fork and a split.

A new altcoin Segwit2x will get listed on exchanges, more Bitcoin is = more Segwit2x, why would they keep holding altcoins with low and stupid

Prices when they can get a coin worth more than $1000 by having Bitcoin?
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November 07, 2017, 04:56:15 PM
#30
When bitcoin growing and altcoin go down it is fork fault. People sell own altcoins for buy as many as possible bitcoin for get bitcoin gold who can give great profit. It is all
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November 07, 2017, 04:03:11 PM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter



This is a long known relationship since a lot of coins are quoted in BTC. So when the BTC value goes up, alts BTC Value goes down and the fiat value stays about the same therefore
Yes, when looking at the USD price charts there are often no rapid changes and people prefer to perceive altcoins rather in fiat currency. There is also this thing, that when bitcoin prospers well or there is some interesting news, like it was recently with the forks, which would give literally "free money", investors are selling all of their altcoins to be able to invest as much as possible in the bitcoin, therefore raising it's price even more, while dumping alts.
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November 07, 2017, 03:03:10 PM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter



This is a long known relationship since a lot of coins are quoted in BTC. So when the BTC value goes up, alts BTC Value goes down and the fiat value stays about the same therefore
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November 07, 2017, 01:47:54 PM
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There is not a clear and precise rule, which is always repeated.
Most likely though:

1) when Bitcoin gets up strong and so all the other coins come down, as in these weeks that everyone wants to have the Bitcoins and sell the other coins for them.
2) when Bitcoin drops sharply and so much then all the other coins come down because it means there is fear and panic in the market, and investors sell everything at any price and expect better times, "parking" the money in FIAT.
3) When Bitcoin rises slowly or moves shortly then all the other coins go up so much, and there will be coins that will make x5 - x10 - x50 even in a month

I believe that by the end of 2017 all other coins will suffer for the strong speculation on the Bitcoin blockchain  Wink
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November 07, 2017, 11:07:37 AM
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Bitcoins increase the price of most investors will immediately withdraw from the altcoin to bitcoin to increase profits so if you notice, when the bitcoint price increase, the volume of the altcoin suddenly dropped to altcoin will discount. At times altcoin along with bitcoin price increase
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November 07, 2017, 01:36:07 AM
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I think the main reason is that people follow the money, because no one want to miss out on the profit the selling pressure will trigger selling order and the panic sell will start, this is because most people still use exchange for the wallets
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November 07, 2017, 01:30:27 AM
#24
This has always been the scenario since bitcoin is the main exchange rate for all altcoins
this is normal, once they see that bitcoin will go up, because of the news all altcoin holders
are dumping all the coins they have once dump happen, it will automatically drop the price
and bitcoin since lots of buyers flee to btc there is stopping the price of coins to go down
same with btc once they see price are going to go down, they will buy altcoins
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November 07, 2017, 12:39:50 AM
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IMO it's normal since altcoin try to adjust their value toward bitcoin.
So if bitcoin is on uptrend and altcoin also experience the same , it means that their demand also increase just like bitcoin so if you able to invest with correct crytpocurrency, you will experience double Profit although the chance is quite LOW !
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November 06, 2017, 11:55:11 PM
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I also Had a same problem  Huh BTC change all the value of Altcoin now I got answer from here , There are lot of explanation All are very help full

Thanks  Smiley
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November 06, 2017, 04:05:21 AM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter



It's honestly just completely normal.

The correlation between alts and bitcoins are not actually that defined. If you look previously, when bitcoin went up altcoins went up quicker. When bitcoin went down, altcoins went down quicker. But now it's the reverse that is true.

Altcoins just have cycles of boom and bust, right now, it's in bust.
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November 06, 2017, 03:55:44 AM
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Do not confuse Altcoin's movement with Bitcoin, the reason of the movement is because of the rally and the upcoming fork again. While Bitcoin keeps on increasing its price, Altcoins tend to go down because some of the traders would panic especially the newbies and would do suicide mission on selling all the altcoins even if they are on loss leading it to dumping of the altcoins and buying bitcoin while it is still increasing then adding up bitcoins increase as well.
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November 06, 2017, 03:30:26 AM
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Of course this situation doesn't happen always. But it is realistic. When bitcoin starts raising, altcoin investors tend to think "I need to make quick buck" and jump into bitcoin vagon. It is all about bitcoin's strength. I think only ethereum has this strength too.
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November 06, 2017, 03:09:24 AM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter


Yes, because a lot of the demand are moving to the bitcoin as you can see about a lot of people just dump their altcoin and put it into the bitcoin. They don't care about their lost.
But some times not all of the altcoins get hammered. Because some interesting developoment can make the more investors are move towards these coins. You can see the latest chart on the coinmarketcap about the best gainers and losers.

i think thats not the reason why altcoins are dropping, because most people wont sell their altcoins for a cheap price and have a big loss just to put that money on bitcoins and avail those free forked coins. its normal for the altcoins and other coins to drop because thats how cryptocoins work and we need that volatility in the price to earn a profit thats why altcoins are ideal for trading though it is verry unpredictable and risky.
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November 06, 2017, 01:34:30 AM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter


Yes, because a lot of the demand are moving to the bitcoin as you can see about a lot of people just dump their altcoin and put it into the bitcoin. They don't care about their lost.
But some times not all of the altcoins get hammered. Because some interesting developoment can make the more investors are move towards these coins. You can see the latest chart on the coinmarketcap about the best gainers and losers.
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November 06, 2017, 01:21:17 AM
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people want to get free segwit 2x coins. So they sell all their altcoins to buy more bitcoins. This might be the perfect time to do the opposite, invest in icos or altcoins does not look like a bad idea now.

I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter


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November 06, 2017, 01:09:29 AM
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Its all because of the demand in the market when the price of bitcoin is up its because many users have been acquiring bitcoin and leaving the alts in the market.
That is why most alt coin doesnt survive in the market because they dont have enough user to make an ecosystem.
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November 05, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
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It's not always the case that when bitcoin goes up, altcoins go down. In the last cryptocurrency price rally, bitcoin and altcoins went up and down together. I personally think that the reason that altcoins are dropping right now whereas bitcoin is skyrocketing is that people are most likely trading their altcoins for some bitcoins, for them to get to have Bitcoin-Segwit2x coins.

I was also about to say that's bit skeays the case. Lasst time the alts went up with BTC. It really just depends on the coins you telling about but it does seem altcoins raise and lower together. Quite odd and interesting. It's all ups and downs though so you can't really tell. Maybe a certain coin is crashing today and you think it will die or s coin has died then it comes back and has some explosions in price. It happens.
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November 05, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

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Because increase price of bitcoin mean it have high demand and high demand of btc effect negative in other altcoins
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November 05, 2017, 05:45:23 PM
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Sometimes there is such correlation as people feel like BTC is the only sensible cryptocurrency which is going to grow....they fear of missing out ....and so they buy Smiley Which is not really smart to be honest.
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November 05, 2017, 05:25:10 PM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

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Most likely people are are transferring their funds from altcoins to Bitcoin when this happens. Although altcoins don't always drop when Bitcoin rises. Sometimes many altcoins or some altcoins rise at the same time.  Sometimes everything drops at the same time including Bitcoin if there is some negative news about cryptocurrencies in general like a government regulation or a problem with an exchange.

Basically, the direction of the markets can vary based on internal or external factors. This situation though is more likely the same investors just shifting funds to make money.
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November 05, 2017, 04:06:45 PM
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It's not always like that but probably now people are just trading eveything into btc cause of its price and suddenly growth.
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November 05, 2017, 02:12:46 PM
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I think now we can see this phenomenon because people who invested in altcoin are also watchin BTC. So when BTC goes up they think that investing in it will give them more profit.
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November 05, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
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This can be explained: when Bitcoin up people who is holding altcoins will sell altcoins to buy bitcoin. For big big volumes altcoins was sold so the price of altcoins will be down
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November 05, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

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When bitcoin is up. It means that the billionaires are playing the market. And the rest are monitoring the event and waiting to buy bitcoins after dumping alt coins. So basically billionaires are pulling the strings and they are earning from the exchange market. While the rest of the crowd are playing in their stupid game. The intelligent ones are hoarding Bitcoins. And doesn't engage in any of the stupid stuff.
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November 05, 2017, 07:10:48 AM
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1. Altcoins are generally priced against bitcoins. Even though the price of altcoin is stable or increasing against USD, it may look to be decreasing against BTC when BTC is having a quicker rise.
2. When BTC is on the rise, like at current time, people tend to dump their altcoin holding a buy and hold bitcoins. Increasing selling pressure means decrease in price.
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November 05, 2017, 06:58:42 AM
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Also there is another issue, BTC is main cryptocurreny so if BTC rise up, people thinks to buy BTC and sold their altcoins so this situation cause that, altcoins down and btc up
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November 05, 2017, 06:55:16 AM
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Basically people are converting their altcoins into bitcoin. so what is happening is Bitcoin is having a pump because of the amount of people who are investing in it and the altcoins are having a dump because of the people selling their alt coins for bitcoin.
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November 05, 2017, 06:52:01 AM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

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1. you may know that a lot of altcoins have BTC as a trading pair, therefore the price of an altcoin correlates to the price of bitcoin.
2. In a normal market (with no fork) the price of BTC can go up and the price of an altcoin can go up (nothing strange)
3. The thing now (and you can verify it) is that the BTC dominance is up a lot compared to couple of weeks ago, which means that money invested in altcoins (and in some extent new money) is removed from altcoins and put into bitcoin due to the fact that people want free B2X. This leads to a dump in price of altcoins and bitcoins that gets a new ATH every day.
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November 05, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
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It's not always the case that when bitcoin goes up, altcoins go down. In the last cryptocurrency price rally, bitcoin and altcoins went up and down together. I personally think that the reason that altcoins are dropping right now whereas bitcoin is skyrocketing is that people are most likely trading their altcoins for some bitcoins, for them to get to have Bitcoin-Segwit2x coins.
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November 05, 2017, 06:06:22 AM
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I have some doubt about Crypto network , BTC is the major one i Know but when BTC is going UP Why ALTCOIN is suddenly going down what is the link between BTC  and  altcoin ? I'm new to Crypto network, These days I focus on BTC veriation and Altcoin veriation then I get this problem.

Hope seniors help me to clarify this matter

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