Topic: When do you profit most in trading? Less volatile or volatile market time. (Read 426 times)

Because trading is a buying and selling activity, of course it will be more profitable if done when the market is volatile. In essence, buying when the price goes down and selling when the price goes up. If the market is volatile so that buying when the price goes down and the price immediately goes up high will certainly be profitable when selling it. But what needs to be known is that the risk is very high, so be more careful. Short-term trading when the market is not too volatile can indeed make most of the money, but it must be with a fairly large capital in my opinion.

Even if the potential returns don't outweigh the risks, a trader would be compelled to take their chances in a more volatile market because as you said, it's the time when someone can possibly get more profits. Slow-moving charts are only pleasing for long-term investors or holders because they aren't going to buy and sell assets in the short-term, but when it comes to day traders, they want the charts to move up and down every minute so that they can find trading windows and earn some profit.

That being said, it's very difficult to make successful trades in a fast-paced market and this is the reason why so many new traders get burnt during such times because they can't time their trades very well and end up losing money instead of getting profits out of their trades.

It's certain that a more volatile market can be more profitable, but it is essential for a trader to have ample knowledge and understanding to make full use of the fast movements.

Every trader has its own unique way of trading the market, whether it's in a volatile or non volatile market, volatility is the spice of the market, so I hate trading in a ranging market, as the whole thing looks very bored during when the market is ranging or less volatile, from trading experience, Less volatile market could be best during when you are on a mission to accumulate some cryptos, this way you would have time to fill up your position in the market, whereas things moves very fast in a volatile and we tend to miss some entry opportunities. I personally prefer trading in a volatile market.

Retail traders are the most active ones when the market is less volatile, whereas the hedge funds are the one that moves the market and causes volatility, if you trade in a less volatile market, be rest assured you might be the liquidity that the market makers need to move the market.

If we do speak about profitability then it would really be that pertaining about or simply understandable that you could make money on those volatile times.Although its not something simple and not something
that anyone could be able to do it just because we do know that extreme volatility could sometimes fucked up your analysis no matter how good it would be. This is why some traders would skipped out or having some break on the time that the market would really be that too volatile or simply they cant really just that able to see that it would be worth on doing so. There's a certain level of movement on where they would be loving on placing up their entries on which this is something which is really that indeed ideal. If you do really know on how to play with the waves then it wont really be that a bad idea to have on making up trades into these times. There would really be those traders that would really be skeptical into these kind of times but there are ones who could be able to bare up with the risks since they do really know on what they are doing.

Profitability will really be that just depending on how well you do handle yourself on different market conditions whether if theres too much movement or having less. The important thing on here is on how you would really be able to sustain no matter what the market condition that you would really be able to encounter on. It will really be just that basing up on how well you do handle yourself on different conditions
on which we know that it is really that pretty common into this volatile and unpredictable space. If you cant be able to assess yourself on these conditions then you would be finding yourself on hardly to survive into this market.

I personally prefer trading in a more volatile market. While it's true that higher volatility comes with greater risks, it also presents more opportunities for greater profits. I do trade when the market is less volatile, but I find that I usually do not profit as much. Ultimately, I believe the potential rewards of a volatile market outweigh the risks.

I'm used to every market condition, so my preference is for the market to be definitive in movements, not about volatility. It's possible the market is so volatile but ranging or channelling, what good is that? It is also frustrating if the same condition is met with a slowly moving market. What traders pray for is for the market to move reasonably to some market edges so that we can profit from it, after all, it's all about profits and not the magnitude at which the market moves to our expected target.

As it is now, it's better we are extremely patient about Bitcoin trading, it will help us so much. By being patient, I mean with both the opening of trades (we must have a true confirmation) and the keeping of the trades so that impatience will not let us liquidate a promising market. Let's just follow the pattern with the right trading tools and apply quality risk and money management to it.

If you know how to use the market properly, you will make a profit without worry with more volatile or less volatile. You can finds the right coin with your analysis and buy the coin in the right time and sell it when the price increase. I prefer to see the market more volatile because that will give me a chance to make a profit although that means I must analyze deeper to find the coin.

I realizes that I don't have such good skills in trading but I still keep trying to analyze. That will not stop to analyze and find the right coin. Sometime it is works but sometime it is not works because that will depends on my analysis. Many times I fail to make a profit and hold the coin for some time but that will not be a problem because I still hope that coin can increase someday. Besides that, I don't use too big money to trade.

You can make money in both ways.

Generally the market is less volatile during the weekend and you can get very good results if you assume if price hits a pivot it will retract back to the daily mean. So basically you treat every breakout as a trap. And you can go from low of day to high of day and have good results.

And when the market is volatile you can assume if there is a breakout it won't be a fakeout, And you would trade in that direction. Since its more volatile there will be more money to be made. However its possible for price to breakdown in one direction and trend and completely reverse in the middle of the day and head the other way. Happens alot in the stock market these days. And its when alot of traders get killed because they get stopped out both ways.

I trade in both market conditions of less volatility and high volatility because a trader should always be active at market and know how the volatility conditions work. I used to be aggressive with my trades and opened around 2-10 positions per day but now I trade with more care and so far my PNL is going quite green and I expect it to be in this way forever. I know the profits I've earned in this way are quite low as compared to aggressive way but the losses are almost none in this way.

Yea, in such a conditions, a newbie trade or inexperienced person is just supposed to lay low or decide to take a deadly position with the determination to accept the result they will get from the trade. At times, there's how volatile the market will be and a professional trader will still experience losses despite all the experience, idea and knowledge they have about trading. The dynamic nature of the market makes the market unpredictable all the time no matter what tool that is being used.

Without a doubt the experience of a trader plays a huge role under those conditions, because when the market is experiencing a high level of volatility it can become incredibly difficult to predict what the market may do next, and even if you could, it is difficult to know when to take the appropriate posture, and that is when a highly experimented trader really shines, as they have seen those kind of market conditions many times before and they know what to expect out of the market and what to do to take advantage of it.

The profits in trading in highly volatile markets are greater but also more risky so trading in these times should be done with caution.

I use a scalping strategy to trade in highly volatile markets as it gives you small and quick profits in a short time, but you should be careful not to hold your trades for too long because the prices are very volatile and a big drop in the price of the coin can lead to losing your money.

When the markets are stable I prefer to trade in the long term as holding a good coin is a profitable option in the long term if you are aware of the trends.

I profit most in trading when less volatility because when i can easily predict market trend and i can entry in good time and sell in the suitable time,
But problem in stable market and mostly i faced big trouble in high volatility because when it's difficult to manage portfolio, and wait to long time to exit.

Yes, every trader is not the same, some traders are so professional that they can trade in every market condition and make profit from it but some prefer when there is less volatility. If am trading in a very volatile market, I usually reduce my leverage to the minimal so that I don't get liquidated easily.

This will depend on the type of trader you are. Some may see the less volatile market as a way to reduce risk taken in trading but the resultant of it will definitely be on low income result if the market goes in your direction unless you’re using a big leverage which is also proportional to the amount you’re willing to risk in each trade. The market will always go two ways and you can only chose from the one in relative to what you’re willing to risk or not.

There you have it. Less volatile market is predictable but its only con is that it might only give us a little to no profit at all. I won't totally copy what you said there of losing because I'm still trying to be positive here and it was the profit is the ones that we came here anyway and not to just simply lose or donate our money in the market. Not all traders are the same but there might still be some (preferably experienced and high-skilled traders) who can do well in a volatile market condition than compared to the other. It gives them double advantage because they can also earn greater and quicker profits here.

It still depends on their goals, capital, and knowledge (to name a few). What if they only have a small capital, a limited knowledge and then their only goal is to have something ( not so huge profit ) because they know that it can also be hard to achieved, therefore I won't say that they will focus on buying more coins. Even though trading is more on the active side, I still think that it was the investors are the ones who should buy or stack more coins especially in the dip. Guess it's because their goal is to sell only at one or rare times at a maximum level, as this is where they can get the most benefits.

There's different between holding and trading, if you are a holder, certainly you are going to make profit when you buy at a low price and the price surges high with sudden volatility, reverse can be the case if it happens the opposite way because you will be at lose. Speaking of traders particularly, there's no market trend that a professional trader doesn't make profit. Anyone that understand trading so well or that have a vast understanding of the crypto market will know that volatility is part of its nature and the person must not allow it to cause mental instability to them.

I'm not a pro at trading and the answer to your question varies depending on how big your capital is when you do a trade. Trading at a higher capital will obviously give you more profit if the trading is successful but if you're on the negative, you could also lose more. It just depends on your skill as a trader, how you read the charts, how you handle greed and fear, etc.

In the altcoin market the biggest profit is made by pump and dumps and those who have understood that bagholding altcoins is not a good idea. These shitcoins that get pumped shine during less volatile market times as well. Just go to any exchange or even coinmarketcap.com and sort them based on 24 hour % and you can find them. On CMC you'll see most of them on other pages than page 1. For example here is a random one. I don't know this shitcoin but this got pumped 400% in the past 24 hours an the volume seems high enough to be profitable: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/crypto-ai-robo/

It is worth adding that it is a risky trading strategy...

It is most important for a trader to focus on buying more and increasing the size of the stack during the downward volatility of the price even though it involves huge capital. Volatility in crypto market can often cause mental instability so you should keep yourself as calm as possible to take more profit and more profit is possible in stable market when there is upward. I prefer to hold myself. Separate capital for short-term trading from which daily income opportunities are available but emotional instability is much higher than profit in short-term profit.

The market is more volatile these days and base on what i can sense, its more suitable for the short time traders, this will help them to closely monitor the move as they speculate within a close range range on whether to rise or fall and the earn their money from that even though it may have to be little, but its profitable and also have risk along side, some traders will prefer this period because its best for them to exercise their skills on trades.


I prefer both because when am trading, sometimes i may like to go short while in some circumstances go long, we have to also know the strategy that best fit our trading skills with experience before choosing on which one to take, i prefer when the market is highly volatile because you can make some cool profits in their numbers of time when your order got to confirm.

High volatility for an inexperienced trader will most likely not be the best time to trade, because at this time there will be more risks of losing money, while during a flat the market becomes much more predictable, and after determining the levels at which the price moves, you can try to make money on this.

But trading is not only choosing a more or less volatile period for trading, it is a comprehensive analysis of many factors, and it is very important to learn to understand the market and correctly assess your capabilities in this activity. You can earn in any of these periods, as well as lose, it is much more important to understand the principles that you will be guided by in the current situation. If the trader does not allow large losses, then you can try to trade in any of these periods, the most important thing is to control everything you do in trading.

Based on my experience, a highly volatile market condition makes me earn more compared to a less volatile condition. Yes, it was hard to wait for a certain trade when the market was not active. As we can see, when the market is bullish, we notice that the trade volume is high, which means that many traders are active during this time as they no longer wait long to see their trades filled. 

It may not be a waste of time waiting for a longer time, as we just left our trade there, but the point is, if we can make more transactions in a short span of time, that is certainly better. 

To be fair if you end up moving like this, we could call that volatile as well. We have seen above 60k and we have seen below 50k just a tiny bit, that's volatility and I do not feel like you need anything else to call it volatile, that should be enough?

Of course that happened a bit ago, like if you are talking about not volatile in the short term then we could say that it is going to be not that crazy, like the last week or something, then yeah you are right. In the end, we should definitely try to trade during the volatile market, that makes easier to make a profit and most people end up making trades during that time, the end result is usually much better during times like that and everyone makes a lot more profit.

I make more profit when the market is less volatile compare to my profit during a very volatile market. When the volatility is low, it makes it possible for me to easily predicte the market direction and experience little or not lose but  during a very volatile market, one's predictions can easily go against their  direction.

I do both if the market is less volatile I make an accumulation of the coins that has a potential to rose up with the next coming days so while I'm waiting with the price movement I can easy manage to take profit at the end of the day and then make a position with those earnings to my next position with the futures I have a strategy with the buy long only Im not good in doing a trade with sell most of the time my mistake is I think that bottom is the last so I make a position and reason to lose my capital in short is I trade as always against the trade that time so I learn from my mistake I only gain with the long positions only.

Yes and there is not that much actions at all.

Well, a good trader can make money at any season whether there's lesser volatility or none. I am seeing good traders that makes money almost everyday or they just don't publish their losses. But it's true that the market can change anytime and since there's futures trading in most exchanges nowadays, whether the market is too slow, still anyone has a chance to make money.

Most of my trading profits comes from less volatile market personal think they move slowly giving you good structures and enough time to make decisions unlike the volatile market situations .But some claim to make a lot from very volatile markets especially crypto so it depends on what suit one best .

Yes, the market is less volatile in a few weeks especially when we are in this month. Many traps from the market that makes some trader lose their money. But they can still make a profit if they try to buy low and sell high without waiting for the price increase so high.

The goal for every trader is how they can make a profit in any situation so that needs them to have a skill to analyze the market. If you have skill, you don't have to worry if you can not make a profit in volatile of the market. That is because we can analyze the market and find when we can enter to the market.

When we talk about crypto trading volatility is always involve  and can't be taking out from the pictures. Normally traders always enter the market in low volatility and expect to make profit when the volatility is high, this means without volatility their won't be anything as trading. When their is movement of price in the market traders can analyse and speculate when to enter and leave the market.  For me I think when the market is stable it can make traders to be confused on what to do and what may occur in the market. When the market is stable or less volatility I don't think their will be much opportunity for traders when the market is in such state .

I think the volatility of the market depends on the tendency of more number of investors to sell which is less observed at present. Every bearish period creates an opportunity for investment attraction which tends to make investors buy more. Its expected value for a trader which can guarantee more profits in the future. I am pretty sure that it is very important for a trader to have a habit of buying more in downtrends so that he can get high profits during bullish times.
As a trader the volatile nature of the market is very good for me as it has a high potential for high profits in a short period of time.

I profit most, when the bullish season is on ground in the market because I don't need to ask any question from anybody before I can trade to earn income, and many traders know that it boost traders income when they trade in the bullish season. There are some new traders, that will prefer less volatile market because they are use to little income, and there is no way it can bring them huge amount of income when they trade in the less volatile market market, but if they can endure for the massive volatile market to show up in the market before they can trade, it will allow them to accumulate income that will make them to be trading their coins during the bullish season.

I don't know for sure the biggest advantage when trading. but the situation is mostly when the market is volatile. the situation may be more suitable for short-term traders. I was expecting momentum from the market quickly to make a profit. of course, the risk may be higher because some traders may be safer to reduce risk and trade when market conditions are more stable.

to be honest it is very difficult to predict the market's direction. sometimes I just do it by chance. Of course, some techniques can be used to do the analysis, but more market movements may not always be as right as we do.

I know every trader has their own experience and way of analyzing the market. of course, some prefer to trade with high volatility, but some prefer when the market tends to be calmer.

Trading is more easier when the market already has considerable up or down movement and after a while, it is still volatile but market already decides what trend it will move next. It is safer time for trading, with less risky of uncertainty on market next movement and higher chance to get profit when some people are still panic and emotionally open and close their positions.

If you are an experienced trader, you can take advantage of their uncertain thinking and emotional action to get profit while by waiting for confirmation of the market you do right thing to reduce risk of your trading positions.

I dislike stable and not volatile market like you, because it gives less opportunity to get profit and it contains bigger risk too.

Less volatility in the market will give you less opportunity to make big money because the market does not move that much for you make big profits when you get your prediction correctly. For traders that are okay with little profits, trading during this time will be perfect for them and it can also help for beginners to trade during this time too. For traders that are not certain of their predictions they can trade during time but for a trader that believe in every analysis that he does to be accurate when the market does have other factors that affect the direction of the market then you can trade a volatile market very comfortable. I profit more in a high volatile market and I advice every beginner to do different trails to know which time is perfect for them to trade and stick to trading during that time.

Traders and investors only make money when the market moves in one direction or the other, so it stands to reason that the most money can be made when the volatility is the highest, and for what I have seen this seems to be the case for the majority of the traders out there, with those making the most money during less volatile periods being an exception to this, and most likely their positive results under those conditions have more to do with their particular trading strategy than anything else.

I think this thing depends on the type of trader you’re or the pattern of trading. I like both trading periods been it the volatile period or the less volatile period. During the volatile period you see the market mostly liquidating people. Some of this pairs that liquidate people are the market that I prefer to trade then, I simply just go to them and see where they left liquidity or even FVG, since I know after grabbing them it will move its way and then scalp them. Mind you the stop loss use in this period is usually a very tight one, since the major time frames then are lower time frames. It’s the most risky way to trade but with proper risk management you should be ok.

As for the less volatile like this days the best way I trade is to swing the trade and most at times at times the stop losses are large it is less risky too but with a large stop loss you don’t need to over swing because the market can shift momentum anytime and probably take you out which is usually a big loss. So for me i don’t think I detest anyone

Based on my trading experience and strategy, I find that trading in stable or less volatile markets can be riskier for me. I only trade when I know the trend is up or down if the price remains stable with minimal fluctuation I stop trading because there's no clear market trend.

If the market is more volatile you can get a quick result and potentially larger profit compared to trading on less volatile.
The only problem with trading in high volatility it is riskier than a less volatile market which is why you need to manage your risk.

Do you noticed that the market is less volatile these days? Although this could change at anytime. But did you know that short term traders will likely make money mostly during when the market is not too volatile? Except they know the trend and trading towards it.

As a trader, is this time of less volatility better or you prefer when the market is very volatile?

It is good to know that we should be careful because the market could change at anytime.