When will Antminer E3 stop mining ETH?

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Quote from: dagarair on December 06, 2020, 05:32:23 PM

Cant mine ETC with ASICS its a different algo

yea i tried, cannot mine ETC. Unless bitmain decide to upgrade the firmware?
what alt coin to mine? metaverse? ubiq cannot be mined with e3.

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Quote from: FP91G on December 08, 2020, 11:41:25 AM

Quote from: adaseb on December 07, 2020, 11:27:33 PM

Musicoin

https://miningpoolstats.stream/musicoin
118.18 MH/s
It seems that the entire blockchain is served by 4 video cards such as RX 470

Anyone can organize an attack of 51%, but there will be no profit anyway

Yes I used to follow MUSIC alot back in the 2017 days. They're issue early on was the high block reward which was like 314 MUSIC per block. Later they did some dev share where a portion of every mined block went to the developers and it seems that now, there is almost no miner reward. I tried mining this a few days back and the miner reward seems to be 0 but you only get paid the mining fees. Makes no sense what so ever. And yes anyone can do a 51% attack however this coin currently sits at 2 sats with only 1 exchange.

I also heard that they are moving away from their own MUSIC blockchain into an ERC20 token. This makes more sense because its not smart having your own blockchain and expect miners to mine it for free. This is not like ETH or BTC where the transaction fees are a large portion of the miner reward. The miner reward from fees are almost 0. Hence no reason to mine at all.

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Quote from: adaseb on December 07, 2020, 11:27:33 PM

Musicoin

https://miningpoolstats.stream/musicoin
118.18 MH/s
It seems that the entire blockchain is served by 4 video cards such as RX 470

Anyone can organize an attack of 51%, but there will be no profit anyway

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Quote from: cg_miner on December 07, 2020, 11:06:34 AM

Are there any alternative for ETH to mine with E3? Currently, I'm mining Metaverse, there is Ubiq but I'm not sure are they solid choice?

The only ones with active exchanges are Ubiq, Metaverse and Expanse. There are others like Soilcoin and Musicoin but they don't have any exchanges at the moment. Currently if you got free power you can make a few pennies mining these. However I am sure in a week or so everybody else will switch to these coins and completely make the difficulty higher.

Just wondering did any of your E3 guys ROI your ASIC? I remember they were decently priced and then when they heard that ETH is not switching the algo they doubled their prices for the E3 on the second batch. Wondering if you guys got ROI in terms of ETH and USD?

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Are there any alternative for ETH to mine with E3? Currently, I'm mining Metaverse, there is Ubiq but I'm not sure are they solid choice?

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Quote from: Wingsbtc on December 07, 2020, 01:06:34 AM

Quote from: miguelik on September 18, 2020, 04:02:37 AM

Hello,

I am trying to find out this question but i can´t seem to find a date.

When DAG size is over 4GB (antminer E3 RAM) then it will be over and this machine will have no way to mine ethereum?

I've read in some articles that Bitmain released a software which extended life expectancy of these miners by several months... Can this be done again?

I guess this is a common question about ETH mining, but i can`t find it out for this miner.

Thank you all
miguelik

EDIT: I have read this miners will stop mining around OCT 2020... Is this definitive?

Whatever happens to Ethereum by 2020 shouldn't affect asic miner E3 because Ethereum isn't the only digital currency that's using the Ethash Algorithm, you can still mine Ethereum Classic instead and also Ethereum Classic accepts miners with 3gb memory too, that's extra long life span for 4gb miners

a) you did not read the postes above you
b) there are no other Coins with Daggerhashimito as algo that could sustain all those E3 Asics.

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Quote from: miguelik on September 18, 2020, 04:02:37 AM

Hello,

I am trying to find out this question but i can´t seem to find a date.

When DAG size is over 4GB (antminer E3 RAM) then it will be over and this machine will have no way to mine ethereum?

I've read in some articles that Bitmain released a software which extended life expectancy of these miners by several months... Can this be done again?

I guess this is a common question about ETH mining, but i can`t find it out for this miner.

Thank you all
miguelik

EDIT: I have read this miners will stop mining around OCT 2020... Is this definitive?

Whatever happens to Ethereum by 2020 shouldn't affect asic miner E3 because Ethereum isn't the only digital currency that's using the Ethash Algorithm, you can still mine Ethereum Classic instead and also Ethereum Classic accepts miners with 3gb memory too, that's extra long life span for 4gb miners

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Quote from: adaseb on December 06, 2020, 11:34:22 PM

When I heard that they were going to reduce the DAG so 3GB or higher can mine again, I assumed that it all that they would do. However it seems that the algo is slightly different. Nicehash basically dropped ETC support all together because they didn't want buyers of hash to be stuck with nothing but invalid shares and all Daggerhashimoto ASICs won't work since there is a slight difference in the algo.

I don't understand why they don't allow ASICs to mine, especially the E3. The E3 are going to stop mining ETH pretty soon and would do good security the ETC network. I don't think there are millions of them in Chinese warehouses that poses as a 51% attack threat. Anyways its sad to here that E3 is finally a door stop. Probably going to see tons of these on eBay and Craiglist now.

Mess provides security against 51% hash. Conside how many 4gb gpus will be on ETC once ETH dag is too big. I think ETC is about to see a big jump overall. Time will tell.

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When I heard that they were going to reduce the DAG so 3GB or higher can mine again, I assumed that it all that they would do. However it seems that the algo is slightly different. Nicehash basically dropped ETC support all together because they didn't want buyers of hash to be stuck with nothing but invalid shares and all Daggerhashimoto ASICs won't work since there is a slight difference in the algo.

I don't understand why they don't allow ASICs to mine, especially the E3. The E3 are going to stop mining ETH pretty soon and would do good security the ETC network. I don't think there are millions of them in Chinese warehouses that poses as a 51% attack threat. Anyways its sad to here that E3 is finally a door stop. Probably going to see tons of these on eBay and Craiglist now.

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Quote from: RedRockMining on December 06, 2020, 05:11:19 PM

Well they did it once (firmware update) for eth. the new etc algo can be mined with 3gb so i don't see why they wouldn't at least consider another update to allow it to mine etc rather than just let it become a garage heater and/or doorstop.

It wont...not how it works. The memory saving software changes were possible. The major change to the algo will not be softwqre fixable.

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Cant mine ETC with ASICS its a different algo

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i wish you luck

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Well they did it once (firmware update) for eth. the new etc algo can be mined with 3gb so i don't see why they wouldn't at least consider another update to allow it to mine etc rather than just let it become a garage heater and/or doorstop.

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i would of hate to be stuck with this e3 door stop now.

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Quote from: RedRockMining on December 06, 2020, 02:49:47 PM

My e3 with updated firmware just stopped mining eth today. Anyone know if a new firmware update will be available for new etc algo etchash?

The changes to ETC should prevent the E3 from mining it.

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My e3 with updated firmware just stopped mining eth today. Anyone know if a new firmware update will be available for new etc algo etchash?

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The 378 epoch is now ending. At the 380 epoch, the Dag file will be larger than 4 GB and ASICs with 4 GB memory will no longer be able to mine Ethereum. If it is possible to add "zombie mode" to the ASIC firmware, then this will further increase their mining time by 1 month.
But there are rumors that memory can be added to these ASICs.

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Antminers still seem to be able to mine, as ETH difficulty still hasn't dropped significally. I've read that Antminers are almost 50% of total hasrate for Dagger-Hashimoto algo

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Quote from: Andor9505 on December 01, 2020, 03:07:11 AM

ETC can be mined.

I don't think so.

ETC has changed algo to reduce dag size and ASIC are disqualified.

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ETC can be mined.

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Anyone have an E3? Are they still going on Ethereum?

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Quote from: miner29 on September 30, 2020, 11:22:17 AM

Well if ETC does the dag cut in 1/2 then it may well get a new lease on life mining ETC. This is still up in the air i believe at this time.

There are also a few other coins with ethash that have smaller DAGs...they are probably not profitable to mine after power costs but there are a couple. Realize when the 4gb limit is hit...going to be a lot of hash looking at very few coins to mine. Unless ETC does its 1/2 DAG then i think hash on ETC will grow....but who knows.

Yes the hashrate will grow on ETC and possibly prevent these 51% attacks. This is actually what the devs are hoping for. There are tons of old 3-4GB GPUs out there along with this ASICs that can protect the ETC network as long as its decently profitable.

Issue is that obviously the difficulty will go up exponentially and might not be worth mining for many. If the hashrate increases then the deposits and withdraws will be enabled on most exchanges and should help and lift the price. Usually when ETH pumps so does ETC so the future holds well for this coin. Should be an interesting time see it switch back to the older DAG.

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Quote from: cryptojacker on September 29, 2020, 06:45:41 PM

I am overclocking Antminer E3 but the Harshrate doesn't change. Running 5.4.0. Any help, suggestions, or links, are appreciated. Thank you!

Does that mean that you have the immortal update? Where can I get that?

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Well if ETC does the dag cut in 1/2 then it may well get a new lease on life mining ETC. This is still up in the air i believe at this time.

There are also a few other coins with ethash that have smaller DAGs...they are probably not profitable to mine after power costs but there are a couple. Realize when the 4gb limit is hit...going to be a lot of hash looking at very few coins to mine. Unless ETC does its 1/2 DAG then i think hash on ETC will grow....but who knows.

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I am overclocking Antminer E3 but the Harshrate doesn't change. Running 5.4.0. Any help, suggestions, or links, are appreciated. Thank you!

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If you want a concrete answer when it will stop mining exactly then just try mining ETC instead which is about 11 DAG Epoch ahead of ETH. Every DAG is about 5 days so its 55 days ahead of ETC. So switch pools temporarily and see if it works...

If it works then you have until at least middle of November to mine ETH. If it doesn't then you obviously only got a month left or so.

I know a few people who scored a good deal on these E3's when everyone panic sold them back in April... only for bitmain to release an update a few weeks later. Either way it will most likely be a brick in a month or 2 since there really isn't anything else to mine with Daggerhashimoto.

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 05:24:05 AM

Quote from: miguelik on September 18, 2020, 04:23:04 AM

I guess the bold part is the key, is it possible to know if this period will extend?

"Yu confirmed that Antminer E3 will stop mining Ethereum around October 2020, adding that Bitmain doesn’t plan to extend the device’s lifespan anymore"

Thanks that`s the answer to my question

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Quote from: miguelik on September 18, 2020, 04:23:04 AM

I guess the bold part is the key, is it possible to know if this period will extend?

"Yu confirmed that Antminer E3 will stop mining Ethereum around October 2020, adding that Bitmain doesn’t plan to extend the device’s lifespan anymore"

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Quote from: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 04:19:17 AM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmains-antminer-e3-to-continue-mining-ether-with-new-update

a lot of things will stop mining eth on october.

Hello ,
Thanks for your answer

Bitmain’s Antminer E3, an ASIC miner that should have allegedly become obsolete by April 2020, will continue mining Ether at least till October 2020.

I guess the bold part is the key, is it possible to know if this period will extend?

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Xtreme Monster

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmains-antminer-e3-to-continue-mining-ether-with-new-update

a lot of things will stop mining eth on october.

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Hello,

I am trying to find out this question but i can´t seem to find a date.

When DAG size is over 4GB (antminer E3 RAM) then it will be over and this machine will have no way to mine ethereum?

I've read in some articles that Bitmain released a software which extended life expectancy of these miners by several months... Can this be done again?

I guess this is a common question about ETH mining, but i can`t find it out for this miner.

Thank you all
miguelik

EDIT: I have read this miners will stop mining around OCT 2020... Is this definitive?

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