Topic: When will the bears take advantage? This bull run lasts so long (Read 584 times)

The point about bears vs bulls is neither should win in an absolute way, thats destructive as its a stampede.   I try to mention this regularly but this interplay between the two sides that we had the majority of 2024 is an ironic positive.

This price action below 70k we've had is good consolidation its like hammering iron, nasty as it might feel at the time to plunge in prices as per the above graph; the accumulation of volume in BTC for this area is fairly massive now.   All these prices are good roughly, we've nowhere near the teens anymore and that whole lower cycle we had for years is left behind in the dust.

Its not as exciting perhaps but if we do want to climb much higher then 70k then I see this whole fight bear vs bull ongoing round after round is required.  It will pay dividends in future and its why ultimately Iam bullish on wider long term prospects.

now there's big retracement coming in to the market. probably exactly the kind of market that you're waiting for.
but the question is, do you dare to buy at this price? I do and I think it's the best chance you can get for the current market, though right now probably too late already to catch the bottom but i'm sure there will be sideways of price, that will be great chance to catch the bottom again.

As I said, this bull run was going on for a very long time and there was some necessity of cool down. Believe it or not, I have noticed that when the price goes up and up and everything looks positive and promising, then you look at the chart, do a technical analysis and ask yourself a question, isn't it time for the bubble to bust? But there is no negative environment that will make the bubble bust, so what happens then? I have an answer. There is always something that comes suddenly out of nowhere and the market crashes when it's time for it to crash. Soon after I created this thread, the price started going down and now we see a crash. Soon there will be a good opportunity for many people to buy the coin and wait for the price to start rising again.

It wasn't a god awful post as you see and as it looks, I was on point. Soon after my post, the crypto market crashed. Today Bitcoin is worth 54K, it was up 72K when I created this thread, a month ago. My point was that the price was going up for a very long time without a downward and that was very impressive, even despite the fact that Bitcoin and Eth ETFs were approved. We moved from 15K to 72K from 2022 without a stop, without a downfall and that was very unusual because price usually starts rising in winter, after summer halving.

I think that it will fall down to 30K and then will start a very successful bull run. Charts speak that.

What we have seen at the current market is still part of bull run season, and there’s nothing we can do to make it move faster reaching a new all time high again. So all we have to do is just wait and observe the market, we’ll get right there soon when the timing is perfect. Just enjoy the moment, but never get pressured on it. Buy when you want to add more bitcoin in your portfolio, but now is not the perfect time to sell your coins as better prices are still waiting ahead of us.

Reaching another peak was already a bull run, it’s just that the market can’t continue a straight bull trend due to its volatility. The market is down and the threat of the bear trend is becoming strong, we should be more cautious because of so many issues around the work, I believe crypto market will be affected by that and for sure panic will be the next trend, so stay awake to monitor your position and secure your profit always.

If you look at previous halving cycles, the bull run did not happen immediately, it took several months for the market to start the bull run. As far as I remember, previous halvings took several months for the bull run to occur. I think bitcoin's increase in this halving cycle is also happening. Indeed, bitcoin has reached its previous ATH in the last few months but in my opinion we have not yet reached the bullrun, we need to be patient to wait for it. What we have to do now is continue to do dca on bitcoin, it's better than missing the moment, especially in the last few weeks bitcoin has experienced a continuous decline but in my opinion this is a good decline before the bull run occurs.

In essence, the current downturn should not make you panic, stop doubting. You have to study and read charts, you don't need to trade but learn to hold your luck. Because Wealth is built in bullish or bearish markets and also wealth moves from impatient people to patient people. One of the best ways to be successful in bitcoin is to trade your asset with a good strategy. So Patience is the key here, and don't do anything careless.

Is the altcoin investment advice at this time correct? According to you, bitcoin is still holding above $60k while many altcoins are still in a downtrend. So what happens if bitcoin suddenly drops below $60k, where will altcoins go? I see the market has changed this year as bitcoin has barely had a significant correction but altcoins look very miserable and bad. Everything seems to be focusing entirely on bitcoin instead of being spread evenly across the entire market like in previous years. Therefore, investing in altcoins during this cycle needs to be carefully considered otherwise we will fall into the trap of market makers who are trying to take all our bitcoins.

I think the bull run will come soon we don't really know when it start but it will surely come, for now you can still buy different alt coins that still low at price altcoins is still at bear while btc is stable above 60k$,so i suggest to buy alts now than btc because btc price is really high even if the bull season is not started yet and it is really risky to buy at the starting point of 60k$ above.

Indeed, in investing we want to get maximum or optimal profits from our investment, but no one can predict exactly when the increase will occur. In my opinion, every decrease and increase is a very (common) thing that happens when we invest because it fluctuates. from market price movements, in my opinion investment is not just about when there is an increase or quick profit, if we have this kind of mindset in investing of course we will feel panic if prices experience a decline. In cases like this, it would be better if we could take advantage of the moments that occur in the market, if there is a moment of decline, at least we make good use of it if that moment occurs to continue accumulating our assets. In cases like this we need extra patience to get good results from optimal investment.

Checking at previous historical data of Bitcoin price movement I don't think that a bull season can run till the next halving because as more investors are coming in others that have made some good profits will want to take their profits and when there is also a massive withdrawal of Bitcoin from exchanges to safe wallets it also affects the price of Bitcoin to fall so just like you said, every cycle comes with different expectations so let's see how far the bull will run till it starts becoming bearish but for now we should be expecting to see the price of Bitcoin reach it's peak after some months from now as that has always been the aftermath in previous halving seasons. However, the bear season may start between the fourth quarter of 2025 or the early stage of 2026 but it's not certain when the real bear season will happen.

Currently, you're right because bitcoin is still a more volatile asset and still one that offers higher returns than the stock market. But over the next few years, there's no guarantee that bitcoin will continue to maintain its volatility or become as boring as the stock market. Like I said, I don't want that to happen either because once bitcoin's volatility decreases that means our profits will also decrease. But I don't rule it out, Wall Street can do whatever they want.
But if that happens, I think we still have the altcoin market, a risky and volatile market  .

It is difficult to predict when the market will go down and when it will rise up. Even if this issue seems complicated to the investors, it must go through the normal course of the market, i.e. ups and downs. But when there is any hype or seller's sales pressure increases then the bearish market starts.
 As we have come through a long period of bearishness for which the bullish sentiment will naturally be lenient. Moreover, another reason is that Bitcoin price touched ATH quickly from the dip and stayed around $60k for a long time and the market will stay like this until it reaches $100k.

Yes, it is not something that would happen very quickly, a lot of people think that it should be so quick, but that is not how any of this works. We should just consider how to move further from that, and we need to consider how to get better. I am very well aware of the situation and not really consider the deal that big.

I think we should definitely consider this to be a great move because if bitcoin went up very quickly, then everyone would buy at that moment and take profit and leave. But because it is not known exactly when it will happen, a lot more people keep on buying and making it work. That is why I believe that we should probably consider this as something that will be helping bitcoin on the long run.

Actually the bull season seems longer because the effects of halving take place and people have to hold their coins until they reach their target value so the price will remain higher until the demand remains higher. Bear and bull seasons are regularly coming one after the other but no one has the ability to predict the starting and ending of such a season. 

We will see bull season till the middle of next year because halving effects were strong enough after each four years of duration but this time we have not seen any stronger effects that can bring new ATH of Bitcoin after the halving so I think we are in bull season yet but it is also not guaranteed that when bear will take place.

I think that many underestimated the approval of spot BTC ETFs (US), because they thought that it was something similar to futures ETFs. This only shows that the average investor cannot properly assess the influence of various factors on the market and that he exclusively relies on already known patterns such as halving.

What surprises you and many others was quite predictable, because supply and demand played its role (and still does), and when someone buys over half a million BTC in a few months, it must have an impact on the price.

What is currently happening with the price is a logical short-term profit taking. Although 5-10% price movement in both directions doesn't seem like much to you and me, don't forget that investors who have a lot of BTC can earn a lot from such changes.

Nowadays it is difficult to expect sellers to dominate. A lot of ETFs entered Bitcoin at a fairly high price and were clearly in it for the long haul. More precisely, I can fully accept that holders may dump part of their positions upon reaching $100,000, for example, but selling right now is a bit strange. We know how fast government debt is growing in America and how fast the money supply m2 is growing. I don't see any significant reasons to sell yet.

That's right, that's how it goes before we finally see the real bull run. Although it comes with phase, and I guess we're on the phase 1 as we're just a few months from the halving. The effect won't be immediate but we did saw some unexpected rise before even the halving came for which it had brought Bitcoin a new all time high. But I'd believe that was just the beginning of it and there's more to go.

And by this time, many are going to make sure that they get their profit. A long time is more than enough for a reason to take what you deserve for holding for so long but don't sell them all.

Do some research so you do no get things wrong or it will affect your investing plans and you will make the wrong investment or get your timing wrong. The bears has already taken over the market and are currently dominating but let us not lose hope because they would not stay in the market very long. The bull market we experienced was not the last bull market before we start looking towards another Bitcoin halving, there are more bull moments that are yet to come and we will start having them soon until Bitcoin rise to a new highest price that should be anywhere above $100,000 but this will also depend on how hyped the market gets. Already we have institutional investors now in the game so it should not be surprising if we record very high milestones being reached by Bitcoin price.

Yes, bull runs are always expected after each halving and last for a few months before the bear market takes over. At this point, I don’t think the bear market will take over soon, but even the pumps in many coins, I think, were caused by good news like the ETF approval of Bitcoin. Since we witnessed this new halving, Bitcoin has not pumped like that, so we are really expecting more pumps from Bitcoin and some other altcoins.

I believe, despite the good news coming about cryptocurrency always nowadays as people are expecting more pumps in Bitcoin. Some people will still sell their Bitcoin because their aim was just to invest for a short time and take a profit. There are many investors in the cryptocurrency industry now who are only there because of the bull run. So, some people must sell, and there are some big investors among them. If they start selling, some new investors will start panicking too, and from there, it can start leading to a bear market.

Well, let us enjoy it as it is now and hope for the best later. However, I will not take a serious side now, so I will not be condemning those who are expecting the bearish trend, they are also right if they can prove it. The only difference is that we are still in the bullish phase in the widest scope and any bearish threat will only be temporary which I will always treat as a correction of the long-term bullish trend, and I will hold this disposition till the mid-2025. Nevertheless, we should never be too trusting of Bitcoin as well, what if anything unplanned happens? This is more reason why we should not take some bearish patterns for granted.

You can imagine what happened today, Bitcoin moved almost $4,000 downwards as if it was nothing and by virtue has made it to be bearish in outlook, at least for this week. So when anyone calls a bearish threat, you should rather visit your analytical means rather than believe that they are jokers. I've been facing the reality of Bitcoin since I knew it and it has helped me to complete many trades (both buy and sell and earn from them instead of believing in the bullish path alone. I intend to keep it this way even as I obey what my chart tells me above what I feel to read/hear about the coin.

If you pay attention to the bitcoin rainbow chart, you must have seen that bitcoin fluctuations have indeed decreased, but if compared to S&P or the wall street game that you made, bitcoin will be an asset that has higher fluctuations among assets such as stocks and others.

If talking about stable gold I don't think so, it's too far away, because bitcoin is the riskiest asset compared to gold if seen from my perspective, bitcoin will have a Dump and Pump cycle too but relatively lower, unless retail bitcoin investors have very massive growth it might have a much bigger impact on its fluctuations, because retail must be easily consumed by fomo and also panic sell.

Talking about altcoins is definitely crazier especially on coins or tokens that don't have many fundamentals.

I missed a year or two on this forum and in the crypto world recently. I understand how important the spot Bitcoin ETF approval was but things are very strange. When ETF approval was announced, the price was pumping up but when it got officially approved, it looked like almost nothing happened, then very slowly, the price continued rising but on the other hand, we also see that the price has been rising up steadily for a very long time and it went from 15K to 70K which is a huge boost, it's not 2016 when the price was 500 dollars.

As I was expecting, the price fell from 72K and it's down to 66K.

I do believe that we are going to end up with something that will take a while but I think you are definitely right. The amount of people who doubt bitcoin is beyond my understanding, of course it will take a long time and of course it will go up, all these people who think that bear will come back now, are making absolutely no sense at all, of course it will not make a comeback, we are not even half done yet, we are going to see 100k+ easily.

Halving doesn't go into effect before the year ends, it is not really something that ends this quickly. We will have a great 2025, and then eventually after it peaks at 2025, it will start to drop more and more, 2025 will see a lower price eventually from the peak, and then 2026 will be a horrible year.

Five years ago, I wouldn't have believed that a bull market would come the following year. However, after the last bull market, I've come to understand that Bitcoin's current price levels make it unlikely for a sudden surge in just 1 or 2 months. Instead, the price will rise with frequent dips, making it hard to predict when the bull market is truly established. This uncertainty has trapped many long-time traders who didn't take enough profit, or any profit at all, during the last market cycle.

I think we are still yet to see a bull run because the price is still never high enough, which will make us think that this is a bull market, and the way people are talking and how the bull run normally comes means the bull run is still never arriving. Let us not rush and sell thinking that the price has ATH. Let us keep our eye on the market. The bull will come because of ETF, which makes you think that we are already in the bull, which we are still yet to reach. Even though I know things may not be the same as last bull run, perhaps they will change, so let's wait and see what happens.

Bears dont get to take advantage easily, this is not a fractional type system like FIAT.   To sell BTC you must first own or aquire BTC and the easiest source of that has been miners from new blocks.

With halvening happening and the previous reductions in block reward we do have the tightening of supply.  That effect only becomes more obvious as the year progresses so this talk of bears having any advantage is opposite to what is underneath the price action in supply and demand.

I do think people are a little bit too impatient also, in terms of time its only really been 6 months or so since we left the 20k prices.   20k was first seen in 2017 allegedly though it was quite brief, so BTC reached back a very long way to check support and prepare for its recovery.  This cycle is going to stretch a bit further and last a bit longer then 6 months imo, it may require alot more patience to see the end but its worth waiting for.

Do you remember what happened when the Do Kwon scam project started to fail - or what happened when the scam project from the "genius" Bankman collapsed? The price of $15k was a direct result of those scandals, and after a while the market started to recover and behave more optimistically, considering that the approval of spot ETFs in the US became more and more likely, considering that BlackRock joined the game.

I don't know if you have been active in the past two years, but you are asking questions that you should know the answer to. You and everyone else should have realized how important the spot BTC ETF (US) was to the price, but you obviously thought the halving was the only thing to wait for.

The start of the year was already the sign of it. But to say for the next halving, it's for the other cycle that we should wait for. Well, these fluctuations are essential and this is a factor that a holder or investor has to consider but if you're long term, no need to be worried with such.

That's true and we have to wait until it comes next year. This is still a long period of this bull run cycle and all of us are optimistic for its run. I'm holding to my holdings and I know that the right time will come and everyone is planning to get their share worth it when the time has come.

Bitcoin could be the first option that should still be maintained in the current conditions because the potential for a larger price increase is still very possible for Bitcoin. But for altcoins, I think everyone still has to filter them to find out the best ones, unless the altcoin is already a top altcoin in terms of volume and also in terms of fame through the development of its own network. However, for Bitcoin, I think there is no need to hesitate to keep holding it until the bullish cycle is seen again in the market with a significant price spike.

I do remember that there are halving season that brings effect in Winter but that is depending when the halving takes place , so what aer you expecting now is something   not tolerable because you forgot to mentioned about that ETF that makes the movement very different this year.
look at how the recent ATH being broken before the halving happens? that is one thing that only now that we experienced .

If volatility decreases it will also make the cryptocurrency market less attractive because most of us choose bitcoin and cryptocurrencies because of their high volatility, and think the stock market is boring.

Personally, I am thinking of a scenario where bitcoin will gradually stabilize and will be the game of Wall Street, but with the altcoin market nothing will change. I mean bitcoin will gradually become an asset with stable growth like gold and no longer be as volatile as before, but the alts market will still have pump and dump cycles because that is necessary if the market makers want to retain and attract players. The volatile nature is what makes cryptocurrencies different from other markets, if it disappears people will lose interest.

Don't be misled by the current market fluctuations. A bull market is on the horizon. Hold on tight to your Bitcoin and altcoins until we see a significant surge. The cycle isn't complete until the bull market arrives what we're experiencing now is just the beginning.

I don't think that we'll see this bull run up until the next halving. But what's good is that every cycle that we're coming in, we're having a new higher low for Bitcoin and the price is going to be higher compared to the last cycle of bull run. And anticipating the bears, that might take on 2026 for which most of us are assuming that this year to 2025 is likely the actual bull run, and the peak might appear from 9-10 months from now on. But who knows? every cycle is becoming different and depends on the news that will come out unexpectedly.

I think the bull and bear markets still exist but the scale is smaller and does not have a significant decline like the previous year or cycle, because the competition for accumulation is getting bigger because of the ETF the bitcoin market can also be touched by more investors, so many assume that the decline in bitcoin will not be as deep as in previous cycles, most of which used to be retail investors but now institutions that have greater financial fundamentals are also competing, regarding the possible increase I think it is far more likely that today's prices are still relatively cheap than what should get the attention of many investors.

The biggest reason is that we are not competing with retailers anymore in accumulating bitcoin.

That's still a question mark, and if what you say is true it means we won't see a bear market anymore, bitcoin won't drop 50%-70% like before and that means that we will no longer have bull season. I mean we won't have a bull run like everyone expecting, a market where bitcoin will increase 2x, 3x from current price, many altcoins will increase x5-x10? And the market gradually start moving like the stock market?

Bitcoin gradually becomes more stable and profits from bitcoin will gradually become smaller. I don't want this to happen and I believe many people don't want this to happen either.

I think that the winter-spring bull run has ended. It's clear that the BTC price can't push above 70K USD. I expect a slow decline during the summer and another bull run in the last three months of 2024. The bears will have a chance to make some profits during the summer.
Maybe the massive bull run will begin in 2025, when finally the global conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza will have to deescalate and the FED will start lowering the interest rates. I actually heard some news that the European Central bank lowered the interest rates recently. This is a sign that the period with high interest rates is coming to an end.

We might not see the same bear market before due to existence of ETF. We have the traditional market investors playing already in the crypto market that makes Bitcoin price less volatile which most of the altcoins follows in terms price trend.

Maybe can experience minor correction like 10% to 30% but not the same correction before that go as low as 50% due to volume being supplied by ETF. ETF investors purchased the dump made by crypto traders that’s it’s always picking up whenever we hitting 60K support.

Bitcoin hitting its pre-halving ATH was a surprise, but that doesn't mean the bull season has begun. It is true that there have been some altcoins that have recovered and reached new ATHs, most recently BNB, but it is still not what many people expected. As I understand it, the bull season that everyone is still waiting for is when we see bitcoin rise like crazy and with it a series of altcoins that will generate x5, x10 profits in a short period of time. And a clear sign that we are in bull season is the hype surrounding memecoin and it attracting many newbies to the market, the media will continuously report on projects that generate profits of 1000%, 10000%...But up to now, besides bitcoin, the altcoin market is still very gloomy and has had many corrections. I also haven't seen too many newbies entering the market...So I think we haven't officially entered bull season, let alone bear season.

I often read about several Bitcoin investors who have various speculations about the crypto market in general, they complain a lot about price speculation on other cryptos, besides Bitcoin, they said whether only Bitcoin had the highest price after the halving or was there a certain time for other types of crypto that could see price increases in the market.

Understanding other types of crypto besides Bitcoin is still a mystery, whether investors are afraid to invest in other crypto, who knows, could it be due to the badness of several types of crypto that have had problems in the past, such as Luna and so on, There have been halvings twice, with no good impact on other cryptocurrencies or investors who are confused and don't want to take risks, I hope my presumption is wrong, so I hope we will see where the halving happened in 2017.

This is one thing some really don't get, the only ones that can crash the price are the ones that hold coins, bears that have pockets full of cash and are waiting for a price drop can't influence the price down, they can only do so up if they decide to buy at which point they are bears no more.

The run will be over when a simple thing happens, there will be less money willing to enter the market than profit-taking and exist by the current holders., not everyone wants to spend 10 more years waiting to buy their dream house or tour the world and not everyone is interested in 300% returns for some the money they made from December till now might be enough.
But nobody has a crystal ball capable of seeing when this will happen!

With the situation is uncertain and things are going to be have not positive movement just because of this all currently no one can predict about when we are going to have bull run even things are on good in last few weeks and peoples are taking good advantage of this all as well but still it's not clear when we will be able to have some good change.
Analysis are showing bitcoin could be on positive move with nothing is clear but mostly are feeling as development are happening 2025 could be good for having big changes, and surely we will be able to watch new ATH or most wanted six figures for the first time but still we need to be calm and having faith in this all.

This can’t be the bull run already, we haven’t even experienced much time of the bulls than we have been enduring for the bears since last three years just after the bull market of 2021. The next halving is still far away and if you check from past bull season, there is always a gap between the halving and the subsequent bull run. The uncertainty of the date for bull run is what makes it intriguing to follow and be anticipating for something big during that period.

I can’t really say if this is the right time to sell, but from all past indications, we are still early in the bull run because bitcoin is even yet to coming to doubling its current all time high, which everyone thinks it’s going to obey the market pattern that it has been following from its inception. No need of speculating here, it’s just that what you’re expecting is not yet the right time for it to happen.

I've not been into the Crypto sphere by the last crytop circle but based on my research, the last half happened by 2020 in the month of May and the halving didn't just so immediately but til the end of the year that the bull run began to showcase its possession.
Actually when I came in lately according to false speculations a lot of us had thought the bull run was to take place immediately after the halving but it was all misconception and wrongful expectations.
The bull run would surely come but not so immediately. According to experts, bitcoin has sequence events but doesn't mean a bull run should be expected as accompany to the halving. History of 2020 even may repeat or likely we should expect the bull run by next year. Although we can still be liable to keep breaking the ATH but not yet a surge to the bull market.

I just see it that because of the ATH that occurred before the halving made everything to change from the traditional way and that is why the bull run is lasting this long and with the way the market it moving we may not experience any bear till after the main bull run begins then the bear can start because there will be massive selling of coins at that time which will make the prices to undergo major corrections that will lead to the bear season.
              I know that most investors are waiting for a dip so that they can start accumulating but that will not happen anytime soon so everyone should HODL on to their coin and should not sell till when a massive bull run begins but it's only short term investors that are even too anxious about a major bull run but for long term investors they are even looking for an opportunity to accumulate more Bitcoins when the bear market comes.

I do not expect the trend to be upward until the next half, at least this did not happen in any of the previous cycles, and I do not think it will happen in this cycle either, although the factors have changed and differed from previous cycles.

I think that we will continue to rise until the middle or end of next year, and then we will begin a phase of significant decline until the next halving. This is just a personal point of view and may or may not be correct.

I think I need to be more concrete. It's definitely not a time for a full bear market because halving happened a month ago and at least for a year, the bull market is guaranteed but isn't this rise unusual? Since November 21, 2022, Bitcoin's price has been going up and up from 15K. What triggered it? It went up from 15.5K to 73.7K and there hasn't been a single moment of a significant struggle for Bitcoin's price since that day.

Are miners at a loss when they mine today? I think that halving can't trigger a bull run the way it triggered in past because today you get compensated by ordinal spammers that pay more than a sane person can imagine. They paid a 30 BTC fee in halving block if I remember correctly.

In the past halving triggered bull run because block reward value got half and miners couldn't profit by mining but today ordinals compensate that loss. Am I wrong?

As the current state of the market is, it will be hard for the bear market to dominate it at this time, the market is a few months after the halving, Which by history, is when we anticipate the bull run to be pushing forward to take over the crypto market to skyrocket bitcoin and other altcoins.

I think the bearish market will dominate the crypto market after the bull run of this year and next year. Maybe by 2026/2027, the bear market will dominate the crypto market cos that's its season to do so

it is obvious that cryptocurrency especially Bitcoin market price is unpredictable that is why I don't believe in some speculations of the price of Bitcoin and any other cryptocurrencies so therefore what u know that is important to anyone who want to sell it bitcoin is when you know what you're doing...in norms the price of bitcoin increasing is been determined by the gravity of the demands, when the demand is lesser the price of bitcoin will drop in value and when the demand is higher the price retardant to high. Let me say this that bear market should not put fear or make you to panic, because is obvious that both bullrun and bearish season is what makes the profit and loss exist in cryptocurrency generally mostly bitcoin investors, so you don't need to be afraid of bitcoin market.

Expectations of bullrun is just imagination and also exaggeration to everyone, their is something I know very well that sometimes that deceived us, what makes us to think that something that's not real be real is base on information we obtain, I don't like to air my interior intension out, base on I know very well that cryptocurrency price is unstable and the price can interchange at any time, so we should not believe that bitcoin price will just skyrocket without experiencing fluctuations in price tag.


As I stipulated before that price of bitcoin is unpredictable and I know very well that bullrun manifest when their is a quantum of demands, and is obvious that when supply is higher than demands it really affect the chances of bitcoin getting increase in the market,  so I believe that price of bitcoin can never be constant....And its clear that when enter into bullrun the market will change colour, and it will affect other cryptocurrencies, for now I don't think that bullrun season has kick-off.

Few consider this as an extended bull run while most of us don't consider this as bull run as we assume bull run is yet to begun it would start either by end of this year or next year hence people are still filling their portfolio but yeah we did witness market going crazy with Altcoins and Bitcoin achieving new ATH but it was not as expected as Bitcoin didn't do even 2x of previous ATH, hence I believe we are yet to witness real bull run this year.

Macro bull market is effect now despite selling days like today seems to have turned out to be, it can still be labelled positive very bullish on a wider view.    

BTC price action has risen from the teens, please dont tell me that didnt involve a bull market.   Also it has not ended now just because we have been back and forth round in circles for months now.  Its frustrating but I would say bull market remains.

A measure sometimes used to define a lost bull market is any decline of more then 20% from the peak.  However BTC is extremely volatile and it would likely be too constrictive to define this asset in the same way as stocks for example.

Are we tired of the bull market already? if we look back to the last time we had the bear market sometimes last year and how it lasted us, many of us were so tired and fed up to the extent that we want to see the bull market begins, and so be it very nicely on us all, we had it earlier than expected before the commencement of the halving and we still sustain it after the halving, this alone will be a reason why we should remain focused on the current season and enjoy it while it last.

To my knowledge, as per the history of Bitcoin, the bull market of Bitcoin gradually starts after Bitcoin halving. The market doesn't get really bullish after halving until the next after halving, and the year after halving is usually when Bitcoin gets to the peak of the bull run, but this season took a different dimension because the price of Bitcoin gave a new ATH even before the halving took place. According to some claims,  the ETF contributed to the Bitcoin price hike, but if the history of Bitcoin price still remains as it used to be, then I believe that we are still to expect more bullish movements in the price of Bitcoin until after 2025. The market may start to get bearish towards the end of 2025 or 2026.

this is a god awful post . no bull run ever lasts too long.

btw I would argue this is not a bullrun for mining ⛏️ so we are nowhere close to a full on bull run.
 

It is very difficult to determine when the holders or investors exit and enjoy the profits, it is a mystery. We all want to get out at the ATH, but the bullish trend certainly doesn't know where the peak is. Learning from past experiences can certainly help, but even that doesn't guarantee that we come out at the right time.

For me personally, I will never sell all my assets at one time even though the price is in line with expectations. The cycle will likely continue to repeat itself and we can still expect higher prices in the next trend. But the best thing is, exit when your target has been achieved even if the market is not yet at the peak of its bullish trend.

You are asking a completely meaningless question at a time when most expect an even greater price increase, because if you missed it, it is possible that the conditions are being created for a perfect bull run, which has already received a great boost from spot ETFs (US), and we have not yet seen the effects of the halving.

In such an environment, the bears are almost helpless, although they are trying all the time to keep the price below $70k, and they have even seriously knocked it down to $56k. The dominance of the bears will have to wait, and in my opinion it will not happen (under normal conditions) for at least another year and probably a little more than that.

The price seems not high like the bullish price we expect after halving but still good enough to see. But I understand why the current situation is different from the previous sentiments after halving it is due to the mindset of the investors changing as well. It is not only the FUD but also political and conflicts in some countries affecting the situation. The majority are not holding long and patience unlike before but selling easily when short pumps come.
I couldn't say when but I expect this will happen 2nd quarter next year. The situation is uncertain and we can really feel the bull season that we expect, something missing like what we experienced in the past.

The bull run hasn't even started.

Price still sitting right around previous cycle ATH. The early pump past the old ATH was entirely from the ETFs buying and hype surrounding that. You'll know the bull run has started once the price starts flying up higher from this range, making current prices seems very low. And yes people will turn into sellers eventually if price gets out of control like it always does during bull markets. It is generally expected the bull run will peak middle-to-late next year and then we'll have another bear market.

Bearish trend has to stem from sellers, didnt we already deal with alot of selling since March high.   If they bought coins recently it was at prices in this area so what is left to sell for a recent speculator.

The sellers besides speculators would be just be things like Mt.Gox payments or government selling off seized coins.  However I do think there is enough buying to soak up most of a bearish trend, the bias is probably upwards at this moment.  At worst we are just to repeat prior months, mostly sideways.

This year I was expecting that we would see a main bull run later after halving, in winter, like we see traditionally but today the situation is absolutely different, we saw an all-time high of many coins very soon and the price has been increasing for months, good news after good news, now I can't imagine how long this bull market will last. At the moment, it looks like there is no place for bears and after so much positive news, I can't imagine what should happen to make people start selling.
What do you think, when will bears take advantage and start dominating the market? Is this bull run the major bull run that we will see till the next halving?