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Nobody has understand gambling in such, I have not seen someone who says that when you're wining gambling is called funs and when you're losing is called addicted, I will say that it's your own way of understanding gambling, because I know quite well that gambling has to do with opportunity, so it's obvious that gambling is entertainment it's neither when you gamble above a reasonable doubt is when it's called addiction, wining gambling is not called fun, from my perspective it's called opportunity as I see so many persons address wining in gambling.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
The key on here is being responsible and sensible on the things that you are doing. Doesnt matter if you are doing real life situations or dealing up with gambling on which it would really be just that the same.
On the moment that you do find yourself being that impulsive or making actions on which arent supposed to be done then its one of the indications that you are already addicted to it. Dealing up with gambling doesnt
automatically means that you are an addicted person on which we know that on the time or moment that you do find yourself having that kind of moderation and control then you are really just that fine.

Losing is part of the game even on real life situations on which every decisions would really be having its corresponding effects whether positive or negative. This is why its important that you do make
yourself at least wary about those probabilities that could really happen along the way. Every steps taken should really be assessed out whether its good or bad.
Addiction is on the moment that you do lost up control and other considerations on which you must done.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

You can have fun and still be losing but you would not be concerned because all you want to do is to enjoy yourself. While having fun and losing, you have to use a capital that is not too much for you to lose. Gambling is a fun activity that you can engage in with or without friends to socialize without putting all your hopes on winning for you to make money. If you are gambling without depending on the results for you to make money then you are having fun and funs does not only have to be when you are winning but it will be better you are having fun and winning than to be having fun and losing. At some point it will occur to you that you are not making good financial decisions by always losing when you are gambling and would want to stop if you still have control over your decisions and not addicted to gambling.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

Every gambler, has a different definition I guess. In fact, we don't have a definitive definition of this. In gambling or betting, there is no other word for the exciting moment, namely getting a win, especially if you reach the maximum win. for example, playing slots or parlay in football. It cannot be denied that the feeling of joy arises when we achieve victory, I am quite sure that most bettors agree. 

However, if you refer to the title of this thread, I think the answer is very subjective depending on the habits of each gambler. The reason is, whether when you win, the feeling of continuing to carry out the gambling or betting session will always occur to every gambler. In fact, not all gamblers withdraw their winnings and continue the betting session. there are those who double their winnings, quite a few end up losing. especially if we lose, our emotions will be involved and it often occurs to us to make a deposit again. in this context we can say it is addictive, there are also those who are able to control themselves, and end their gambling session.
Whether you are an addict or non-addict depends on how you treat your own gambling, if you do this activity excessively, there could be indications of being an addict. or, someone is not aware that they have become an addict. and the only one who can measure what we do is ourselves, but with awareness. Awareness and understanding are important, at least to help us not get too carried away by excessive emotions whether we win or lose. if we refer to that fun thing when winning, then I can't tolerate it. However, there are actually other things that make betting or gambling fun, tense and adrenaline-increasing entertainment, regardless of whether you win or lose in the end.

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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
Nope, that's not the definition of gambling or gambling addiction. One who gambles a lot and gives most of his/her time at gambling is an addict. If that same person somehow not gambles then he/she will not get Dopamine that's released during the gambling and that person somehow needs gambling to satisfy his addiction urges.

In community when someone turns as a gambling addict then almost everyone around him/her can feel the negative energy of addiction on his/her life. In gambling no one wins all the time, even those who are professional at sports betting often face some losses, and the ones who are addicted to gambling become happy when they continuously win many bets but as soon as they lose some bets then they somehow lose their emotional control and end up doing wrong things.

Those who're severely addicted to gambling often end up losing everything they won and still gamble to recover the losses and win more money. They won't get satisfied even if they get money from somewhere else because those addicts will again gamble with that money and the same cycle of winning and losing takes place again and again. That's why most professional gamblers suggest to learn gambling responsibility to be safe from severe addiction.
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.


First, the definition of “gambling addict” does not take into account whether the person always wins or always loses. If the gambler practices gambling extensively on a daily basis and at the same time makes profits, he can still be considered an addict, since he will continue playing even if he is losing. The evidence for this is that he cannot be prevented from doing so on the pretext that he has made profits that enable him to stop playing except in the event of an opportunity. Few. This is in theory.

Secondly, who believes that there are those who constantly win at gambling, especially addicts who practice their addiction on an intense daily basis? This may be possible in theory, but it is completely far from reality.

Addiction is a psychological disease that affects a person's cognitive abilities and prevents him from distinguishing facts, forcing him to give up part or all of his responsibilities. The matter cannot be dealt with on the basis of profit and loss ratios.
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The perception of gambling indeed hinges on results, and that's where I concur. When one is on a winning streak, gambling metamorphoses into frivolous fun: a benign activity with no strings attached, despite the frequency or amount wagered. Luck blinds people to the downside; they defiantly cast their gaze only upon the triumphs.

But addiction issues only arise after a person starts losing and still continues to gamble despite the losing streaks; it is at this point that people start viewing gambling as a negative phenomenon and seek solutions or remedies. If the same person later wins back the money, then they are not considered addicts but rather fortunate or skilled gamblers.
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Being addicted to whatever is not actually when you are winning or losing. There's this saying that says, whatever takes more of your time, and appears to control you, should put a stop before it occupies your mental reasoning and social lifestyle which will result in you not taking proper care of yourself.

Someone can be winning and having fun in other areas of their life but the habit they may be exhibiting will not be encouraging for others to walk upon as being a better human being. Too much of everything they say is not good for everyone, there should be limits to certain things.
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Yesterday I wrote in another thread that, in my case, as I have never won big (and, in fact, thanks to the fact that I have quite bad luck when it comes to gambling), it could be considered a blessing for me because I don't have the need to play to win; and the contrary could've happened if I had better luck when I started gambling.

Now, the OP says that losing is addictive, and you think that's the opposite. And maybe none of us is right. Maybe, the truth is that what can make gambling addictive for some people is the complex succession of victories and losses.

Some people will still end up being addicted to gambling whether they lose or they win. While losing and winning can be some of the factors that bring people gambling close to being addicted or not, it is not just the only reasons. The frequency of gambling and the environment where people gambling have greatly affected their gambling livestyles thereby making them addicts. In all honesty, moderating your behavior towards playing gambling games is the best way to check.your self from the danger of addiction not necessarily due to the winning or losing.
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What I understand about addiction, it's something that you do often and even if you are losing you are still gambling, and you are not doing it for entertainment either. If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.
That is because we all have our own biases. If a friend of ours have been winning his bets continuously, we'd see the winning side and be happy for him and the classification of being an addicted gambler isn't there. But if that friend of ours have been losing all the period of time and gets nothing, we'd tell him that he's a gambler and should stop. I think winning plays a big part when we call someone an expert or an addicted gambler. But it's true, the actual definition of it is that the person keeps on engaging on it.

So, whether we win or lose but if we've been engaging and gambling for so long and there's the urge that our days won't be completed without doing it. Then congratulations, that's just one of the many signs that addiction is already on you.
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What I understand about addiction, it's something that you do often and even if you are losing you are still gambling, and you are not doing it for entertainment either. If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
What would be the feeling other than fun when you are actually experiencing winning results, the whole concept of the fun aspect I think is basically tied up to the fact that the gambler should always note the fact even when he is losing he should know that it's not a personal affair and shouldn't go all out trying to win back because that's where the whole disaster starts from.
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When a gambler continues to win gambling, he finds a kind of joy in gambling and he wants to win more. It is very natural that a gambler must have a kind of greed working inside him if he wins gambling and he will want to find himself repeatedly in gambling.
A gambler never expects him to win a bet on gambling but if he loses his gambling, he takes gambling as a challenge instead of enjoying himself, and he repeatedly wants to bet on gambling to recover the money given in the past. In this way he repeatedly takes gambling as a challenge and at some point accepts gambling so much that he can never abandon it.
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Op your analogy not clear for me and if I even understand your comparation, I will disagree with you by comparing academic result to gambling. Gambling addiction in most time comes from losing and not even winning. Gambling addiction comes from irresponsible gambling and gambling without plan causes addiction. It is the lazy youths in most times found in gambling addiction because they can't work hard to pay their bills. So are you telling me that students who made good results are lazy and weak vessels.

The comparation is not really good. I also disagree with your topic. Winning is not addictive. And addiction can be winning and losing. Both can lead to addiction.
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It's quite the opposite. It's addictive when you win, not when you lose.
Imagine losing all the time, when you gamble. Would you ever become addicted? Hell no. That's why all casinos let the gamblers win a few times, before the gamblers start betting higher amounts and lose all their money. Grin The process of getting addicted starts when your brain gets that dopamine boost. It's the same with all the other addictions. Your brain feels really good at the beginning, that's why you keep playing and you want to feel again the same feeling of excitement and euphoria.

Yesterday I wrote in another thread that, in my case, as I have never won big (and, in fact, thanks to the fact that I have quite bad luck when it comes to gambling), it could be considered a blessing for me because I don't have the need to play to win; and the contrary could've happened if I had better luck when I started gambling.

Now, the OP says that losing is addictive, and you think that's the opposite. And maybe none of us is right. Maybe, the truth is that what can make gambling addictive for some people is the complex succession of victories and losses.
the thing with addiction is that if you gather ten addict together and ask them to be sincere with what they feel is the root cause of thier gambling addiction, the responses they will all give wouldn't be the same. Some became addicted because there was once upon a time they where regular at winning and felt they could get back to those time and continued gambling till it becomes addiction, others saw people winning and wanted to also win like those people and the end product led them to becoming addicted to the act of gambling.

If you're not a regular winer who stops winning at a point and continued gambling with the hope of winning again,
 And ended up becoming an addict, you wouldn't know that wining could cause one to become addicted and the reverse is what is obtainable for those regular losers. Winning is indeed rewarding and it's part of what is called the fun of gambling. If I continue winning and continue gambling even above what I can afford to lose and still win at that point, no one will see me as an addict and I guess that's the angle the OP is making reference to.
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At the time you get a great victory, you will feel the pleasure. And when you feel that pleasure, you will forget all the things you should avoid.
I mean, when you get a win you'll definitely keep playing in the hope of wanting to continue your fun to get a bigger win. Without you realizing, you have experienced an early addiction that will spend your initial victory after it loses all that money and becomes very angry wanting to pursue such a defeat. And when you pursue that defeat, that's when you're already entering the early zone of gambling addiction.

Remember, addiction isn't just about winning or losing, it's all about how you can control yourself.
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"When you're winning it's fun but when you're losing it's addictive right?" - well, why, winnings are also addictive and you want to win more and more.

That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.
Yes exactly. As long as you win at gambling, you will be admired and called lucky, but as soon as you start losing money over and over again, you will be labeled as a gambling addict. Although, of course, even the lucky ones, who often win, suffer from no less gambling addiction than their less fortunate ones.
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Winning can also make one addicted to gamble because you will always want to keep playing so that you can continue winning and that is what greed do cause. A lot of gamblers will not stop gambling when they are winning and even if they stop, they would want to continue tomorrow.

The important thing is that you should gamble moderate and don't overdo it either winning or losing because that is when it can make you get addicted if you overdo it.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
That's how most persons understands about the concept "gambling for fun", as frequently used among gamblers but it transcend just beyond when we are caught up in a winning streaks that it should then be regarded as fun. Tue fun aspect of gambling is what I think to be subjective of the individual and the condition for gambling.

If you're gambling out of poverty and want to make money from gambling, it's only going to feel as fun only when you're in grossed profit otherwise it's not fun anymore.

When you gambling to kill time, for distractions and drain boredom as the end aim, then it's going to be fun for both in a win or loss results, your interest is your getting your optimum entertainment.

And so it goes on and on... The question should be, what exactly are you gambling for?
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It's quite the opposite. It's addictive when you win, not when you lose.
Imagine losing all the time, when you gamble. Would you ever become addicted? Hell no. That's why all casinos let the gamblers win a few times, before the gamblers start betting higher amounts and lose all their money. Grin The process of getting addicted starts when your brain gets that dopamine boost. It's the same with all the other addictions. Your brain feels really good at the beginning, that's why you keep playing and you want to feel again the same feeling of excitement and euphoria.

Yesterday I wrote in another thread that, in my case, as I have never won big (and, in fact, thanks to the fact that I have quite bad luck when it comes to gambling), it could be considered a blessing for me because I don't have the need to play to win; and the contrary could've happened if I had better luck when I started gambling.

Now, the OP says that losing is addictive, and you think that's the opposite. And maybe none of us is right. Maybe, the truth is that what can make gambling addictive for some people is the complex succession of victories and losses.
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If gambling is taking much of your time like gambling at workplace and also gambling when you suppose to be sleeping, making your sleep shorter than it should be and making your health not to be as it should be and  making you have headache and body pains. If you are making money from gambling but this is happening to you, that is still gambling addiction. But if someone spend more time in gambling like this, it is certain that the person is losing money.
When someone plays a game be it a gambling game or any other game they aim to win because winning is the main objective of everyone in the game. But in the case of gambling, because if you win in gambling, you get a return of several times the amount of the bet, so winning in gambling is more fun than in ordinary games.

Yes I agree with you that when someone loses gambling and loses his money it hurts his emotions because he is losing the game here at the same time losing money due to which it makes him more stubborn and gambles more to recover his previous losses. for this reason his emotions force him and slowly he /she get addicted on gambling and loss more then past. this is the main danger of gambling
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

It turns out that even if someone wins at gambling, he still sacrifices some things. For example, time that he could spend doing physical exercise or relaxing. The gambler also sacrifices his attention to his family, because during the game he devotes himself only to the game, and ignores loved ones who want to communicate with him. 
This is especially harmful for communication with children.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

Most people think so and I do believe it is natural because it is hard to say that we are having fun while we are losing.
For me, having fun is combination between enjoying the game that I like to play plus winning it.
I have to say that even if I accidentally win something on a game that I do not like, I cant really feel the fun.
When it comes to your title "losing = addictive", I'm not fully agree because I still believe that addiction comes from both winning and losing.

That's huge, there is no joy in losing or I mean anyone will never feel happy when they lose money in any case. But it is a fact that gambling is about winning and losing, but that doesn't mean that when you lose you have to be upset, because of course losing is part of the game. This means that I understand that a winning situation is fun, but for gamblers who understand the opportunities and are aware of the risks, a losing situation doesn't mean it will make them completely upset or emotional, because the goal of gambling for fun is not the result but the process of playing the game, or Simply put, you can get pleasure when you enjoy the game without thinking or caring about the outcome, whether you win or lose.

On the other hand, you say that when you accidentally win at a type of game that you don't really like, then at that time you don't feel the real pleasure, meaning I would say that you are a gambler who comes with the intention and purpose of enjoying the process. and don't make the results at the end of the session your main priority or focus. This means that every gambler has his favorite type of game, but there are some gamblers who do not feel significant pleasure when their winnings result from another type of game that is not their favorite game, because the sensation produced by their favorite game is different from other games, and they are gamblers who really come to just enjoy the process without caring too much about winning or losing.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.
yeah, sadly a lot of people view addiction like this, when they only see an addicted gambler constantly winning they don't notice the other symptoms of gambling addiction or they just ignore it since the gambler is making money from gambling. once the gambler stops constantly winning and the gambler still continuously gambles more than usual they will now notice a lot of the symptoms of gambling addiction. in the end, people who are like this are just unaware of what gambling addiction is, this is also why it is important to teach and spread "gambling awareness programs" to make people realise what exactly is gambling addiction is.
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It's quite the opposite. It's addictive when you win, not when you lose.
Imagine losing all the time, when you gamble. Would you ever become addicted? Hell no. That's why all casinos let the gamblers win a few times, before the gamblers start betting higher amounts and lose all their money. Grin The process of getting addicted starts when your brain gets that dopamine boost. It's the same with all the other addictions. Your brain feels really good at the beginning, that's why you keep playing and you want to feel again the same feeling of excitement and euphoria.

Losing can also be addictive because some people lose continuously but they want to get back what they lost, and they will not stop until they win. And that accidentally pulls them into a spiral of addiction without them even realizing they are addicted to gambling.

I agree with lovemayfamilis that both can be addictive and it depends on the person. I feel that gambling has an extremely strange, indescribable and very difficult to resist appeal. If we are not alert enough and cannot control our emotions, we can fall into addiction at any time. Whether we win or lose, both will cause addiction if we do not know how to control ourselves.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

No, you don’t have to win in gambling to have fun.

Once you’re able to realize that gambling is not meant for you to get rich (except for the few lucky ones) then you should be able to engage in it and don’t feel any type of pressure or tension when you’re playing and not winning - I have been gambling for some time now although I’m not consistent and each time I make a deposit in my account I make sure I enjoy each games that I play to the fullest, try out new strategies and also time myself to see which of my strategies will help me last more than my usual time before I finally lose everything or withdrawal whatever balance is left in it.

From what I just mentioned above, winning or losing no longer becomes a criterion for me to have fun, as long as I’m able to play the game and make sure not to refill my account when I’m done with my balance - that’s fun for me.
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When the term gambling in moderation is introduced, it dos not mean that you gamble moderately when you are losing only, you apply that even when you are having wins because if you're excessive during the good days, that mindset would be rooted into you that you and it would turn into a reflex action that would be applied across all your gambling involvements.

Every gambling session should have a timing and you should train yourself to quit when your session time is up no matter the trend you are experiencing because if not strictly followed, the psychologic buildups of indiscipline in your gambling activities would sabotage you when the loosing streak hits you.

Whether good or bad, too much of everything always has a relatively bad effect in the long run.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

Most people think so and I do believe it is natural because it is hard to say that we are having fun while we are losing.
For me, having fun is combination between enjoying the game that I like to play plus winning it.
I have to say that even if I accidentally win something on a game that I do not like, I cant really feel the fun.
When it comes to your title "losing = addictive", I'm not fully agree because I still believe that addiction comes from both winning and losing.
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Whether you're winning or losing, both can be addictive if there is a habit that was developed along the line. Gambling frequently without control is addictive and even if a gambler is winning he is to be considered addictive if he consciously gambles without knowing when to quit. The mindset of someone losing so much in gambling to be seen as addicted is wrong. Let's consider gambling to be football, some people play football every day in my local area. I get to watch them sometimes. They don't stop playing football at all even if they are losing they keep playing and when they are winning as well they keep on playing. It is something that they are addicted to and they do not care about the cost (winning or losing). Any outcome they are still willing to continue the next day.
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As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning
The fact is that you are likely to get a gambling addiction if you continue to have a good winning ratio; you will think that you can make a living from gambling, and you have a winning formula, so winning is fun and addictive.

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and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.
Winning and losing is part of addiction if you are spending more time and money. you neglect the most important thing in life, and you exist to gamble, then you are addicted to gambling regardless if you're winning or losing; gamblers are not only attached to winning and losing but more to the feeling of getting rewarded on what they are doing, its the effect of dopamine, and the process of going through the cycle of winning and losing.
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Nope. The reason why we get addicted is because we experience winning and think we can do it all the time. Because of that, we don't accept reality anymore. When we lose, we keep trying to win back our losses and be on the profit side because we are very confident in ourselves. Sometimes we don't consider our chances against the house, and we don't recognize the house edge. If we did, we would easily know that we have no chance of winning in the long run, even if the house only has a 1% edge. Our lack of discipline and wrong beliefs make us addicted.

Just imagine if you are new and don't experience beginner's luck, and you are on a losing streak. Do you think you can still be addicted knowing you almost have no chance of winning?
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
I think in both cases there is a little bit of slight difference, your parents where bent on you to study and for you to get good grace, in other words you were coerced to making sure your results in school are not bad, however in gambling addiction these are set of persons that have the free will to do whatever they choose to do without anybody putting a knife on their neck, so gambling is basically your free will for you to continue to do what you feel is good for yourself.

Addiction comes in when you don't understand how to control a habit that you've developed over time, most persons that are losing in gambling most times do continue to gamble with the sense that one day their luck will shine, so it's not only people that are winning that get addicted, even people that are serial losers do get addicted too.
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You don't understand gambling and have little knowledge about it. If you think that way, you can enjoy gambling whether you lose or win, and you don't have to win just to have fun. The most important thing when you are playing in the casino is the process, not really the end results.

There are more chances of losing than winning in gambling and you have no control over the outcome what you have control over is your reaction and your decision so base your action on fact.
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Gambling is a game and winning in a game often gives you immediate positive feedback, which is why it's addicting. It's pretty common when discussed about how ADHD (IIRC) perform better in games since there's an instantaneous reward given unlike exams where scores are given out a few minutes later, or even a day/days on bigger ones. The process is pretty similar ig in your example but still vastly different things imo. I mean, I reckon the majority of people don't get any dopamine studying so yeah.

But anyway in general I do agree that winning = fun. That doesn't mean that's there all to having fun. I don't agree though with the idea that if you're winning means it's not addiction and if you're losing it is though. Kind of sets a biased mindset around defending addiction.
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It's no doubt if we will feels more fun if we win especially win much money. But unfortunately, not many times we can win in gambling instead just lose our money and make us depress and we wants to recover our lost money by keeps playing gambling. If we don't have good self control, we will becomes addicted to gambling and there is no way out from gambling if we don't realizes by ourselves.

If you compare gambling addiction and study addiction, that will be different because when you have gambling addiction, you can lose everything you have and that will be difficult to gets it back. If you have study addiction, you will have much knowledge that you can share to other people. You have a passion to know many things which can useful for your life and other people around you.

If you wins from gambling, there will be a passion to playing gambling more and more to wins more money. If you can't control that, you will addicted to gambling.
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It's because you are taking more time chasing all your losses which is why losing can be a path to gambling addiction. The winners on the other hand have a different path because they have a choice to just stop and enjoy all the profits after the win, as long as it's enough to stop, a satisfying win.
But, let's not take out the possibility that winning can also be addictive because of greed. If we are a person who cannot be easily satisfied by a small amount of profits then we will just keep on gambling until we cannot even tell if we starting to be a gambling addict or not. I'd be careful with both paths and keep the discipline of staying on the budget.
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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

That just another misconception. Addiction doesn't necessarily mean you are a loser in something or gambling then everyone looking down on you that you are an addicted gambler. A wainer can become addicted, and at this stage, you find him spend too much time in gambling activities when he has some other important values to add to the society and his family. He takes his main job lightly because his wins from gambling might be far bigger than what he receives as a salary. He is already addicted this way. Let's say for instance he fall by the way side and starts losing, such person will never be able to stop. He will keep trying until he eventually give back all what he wom from his long time gambling. That's addiction. So we shouldn't always look at addiction as something that there for the ones who doesn't make any profits or wins from their gambling activities. A winner can become addicted too.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.

Of course everyone likes to be successful and winning is being successfully, it gives you more joy and happiness. People around you will also benefit from the joy and when you are not having joy as to winning your games, some people cast aspersion.

However, I think addiction can be in both ways in winning and losing. The only difference in winning and being addicted is that you have something positive like proceed from the gambling to show for it. If you are winning and you keep playing while you don't find time to attend to other areas of your life then you are addicted to gambling. In such case where you are engrossed in the gambling because you are winning then you are addicted. Hey... But I prefer to be addicted and having proceed to show for it and solving my financial obligations instead of being a broke loser who is addicted and loans or gets to beg for financial support every time.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life.

I think you're having a wrong perception of gambling addiction here. Gambling addiction is not about the outcome of your gambling, it doesn't matter whether you are winning or losing. The addiction is is related and seen in the behavior itself not by the result you get at the end of your gambling.

To put it straight, gambling addiction started the moment you start neglecting your responsibilities because of gambling. If a gambler can not control his gambling habits even if he is winning consistently, it's addiction. The only thing here is that if you are addicted but winning, your life will not be as miserable as it will be if you're addicted and losing at the same time.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
Do you know someone can be addicted to gambling and still win in all these games. In gambling nobody cares how many games you have won so far or lose but what people are concern with is what would be your reaction when you don't  win and if my activity in gambling is affecting me so bad either financially or emotionally. Like if I play gambling everyday and I lose most times and I play with so much money and still I don't go broke or sell my properties just to play gambling, then it is good because my gambling style is not affecting money.

What we need to be concerned about is the harms, the negative effect of gambling and guild ourselves on how to go about it, gambling is not just about win and lose but how we react to it is the most important thing. When you are affected by the way you gamble and you can't do anything about it, then it can be additive. Losing is not additive because in gambling it is either a win or a lose.
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Winning and losing are normal things in gambling because they are both outcomes that will always happen, but remember to understand that the winning percentage is still very small and gamblers only have small chance of doing so.
If the chance of winning is greater then the odds or multiples of profits that can be obtained are definitely very small, everything is not worth it if think about it logically, but this is choice and have to be able to accept it.
Sometimes many gamblers try to always chase victory but they forget that the losses they have suffered are too big or too many, this is the definition of pleasure and also ambition can influence common sense.

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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
I don't think that true because there are some gamblers who only play to get entertainment, they can feel pleasure when they win but basically the goal of entertaining themselves is never caring about the final result.
Most important thing is to be able to have fun by spending some money on your favorite game or bet.
Both outcomes would really be something that could be addictive on which we do know that losing nor winning will really be giving out that kind of spike of emotions on which it could give out that happy feeling and with that frustration or stress on the time or moment that you will be finding on the moment that you do be able to experience things. This is why on the moment that you do touch up gambling then you should be expecting these kind of conditions on which you will really be that definitely be having that kind of consideration when it comes to those conditions on which you do really know on how you would really be handling yourself
on the time or moment that you do play gambling. Everything could really be addictive and it will be just depending on how you would really be having that kind of approach.

The key on here for you not to get addicted with gambling is that you should expect those loses and winning. Gamble for fun and not for money so that you will be not be ending up on being desperate.
It will really be that always important that you do realy know on what you are doing and this is something that you will really be needing up to consider.
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Winning and losing are normal things in gambling because they are both outcomes that will always happen, but remember to understand that the winning percentage is still very small and gamblers only have small chance of doing so.
If the chance of winning is greater then the odds or multiples of profits that can be obtained are definitely very small, everything is not worth it if think about it logically, but this is choice and have to be able to accept it.
Sometimes many gamblers try to always chase victory but they forget that the losses they have suffered are too big or too many, this is the definition of pleasure and also ambition can influence common sense.

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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
I don't think that true because there are some gamblers who only play to get entertainment, they can feel pleasure when they win but basically the goal of entertaining themselves is never caring about the final result.
Most important thing is to be able to have fun by spending some money on your favorite game or bet.
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The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning.
This is also unhealthy. The school system is supposed to teach us networking as a part of our education. If your social skills suffer in pursuit of better grades it's not a holistic education, you were winning on one facet only.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life.
It's addictive if you're spending an unreasonable amount of time and resources on it, irrespective of whether you're winning or not. There's a difference between what people generally agree on and what is true, the fact that addiction is associated with those in debt and ruins due to gambling does not mean that the only situation addiction can be used.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.
Gambling addiction becomes well-pronounced or visible if one is losing. You know life is about making money to meet needs and nobody can see you as an addicted worker if you have to do it to pay your bills. If gambling is always profitable, it will not be tagged as an addiction because it helps to pay bills. However, addiction shouldn't be related to just money, time and strength can suffer because of addiction. If somebody's job, family, or health is affected by uncontrolled gambling activities, it could be seen as addiction.

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Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
Gambling is real fun when you keep winning especially if you see it as a source of income or you gamble more than what you can afford to lose. But if you gamble with what you can afford to lose gambling will just be the same as buying a movie ticket or paying a subscription fee for an entertainment channel.
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Addiction is addiction; it doesn't matter if you're winning or losing. The only positive outcome of your winning is that you're not losing money yet. That alone doesn't make it much better; you'll eventually start losing, and this is where you start seeing the negative side of your addiction. It goes without saying that winning money is entertaining; gamblers, and especially addicts, cannot fathom the idea that their winning streak won't last forever; there's no such thing as a positive addiction.

To be more precise, I'll quote the definition of addiction by Oxford Languages: "the fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance or activity," while addicted "is someone who is physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance."

Thus, with that being said, the outcome is irrelevant; addiction is a real issue and a serious mental disorder that needs to be treated and left to professionals.
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You are probably wrong on this. I've seen minors in my neighborhood becoming addicted to gambling. The reason is that they've made money from it. They won. They must have thought that winning in gambling happens all the time. They must have concluded that gambling is making money. It isn't. But they have already gotten addicted to it because they know they could make money from it, that it is a possibility to turn a few dollars into a couple of hundreds or more.
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

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.it can be addictive when you are winning and also losing as well, remember that addiction is a choice and it doesn't start in a day..A lot of people that are making profit from casinos based on luck can get carried away by those wins thinking that they have a method that works but having that mindset is only going to set u up for losses sooner or later, losing on the other hand can also make a gambler addicted when he starts chasing he's losses that he probably May not recover... gambling should be for fun and not something anyone should be addicted to
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That's why we said that gambling is two fold, it has it's pros and cons, but what more is that the negative thing, (losing money), is not really that good and that losing can cause significant stress to our body specially if we losses big money, and then we question on how we can recover that money that we losses and subsequently thinking of depositing for more.

Same goes with winning, we are entertained and all of that, but at the end of the day, the thrill of winning can be highly rewarding and addictive. So it's really depend on the individual on how everyone will deal with the winning and the losing.
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Gambling for fun does not mean only when you are winning, losing is part of it. Of course, you know that there is no one that can keep on winning and that is why gambling is different from studying. You study hard and come out with good graders, but in gambling you gble more, you lose more.

Addiction is when you don't have self control over your gambling activities and you do all sort of things just to gamble. Gambling with the amount of money that you can afford to lose is a way to limit your losses and if you continue like that it will become fun.
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That what social pressure is.

When you're winning, people will not say you're an addict, they will support you since you're making money and they could get share from your winning.

But when you're losing, people will say you're a failed product, wasting money, have no future and force you to quit gambling.

If you gamble alone, then you should be aware what addiction is, as long as it didn't affect your daily life, it's safe to say you didn't get addicted to gambling. Don't hear what people say to you because all they cares is you're win/profit.
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Gambling addiction goes beyond winning and losing, it is a state of mind where a gambler cannot control their gambling emotions. A gambler can be winning, yet he'll be obsessed with winning more and more until it starts to affect his mental health. He'll be in the casino, bet shop or on phone all day, more than he should and ignore other important activities. Although I agree that gambling addiction happens more when a gambler is losing and most times as a result of chasing loses. A gambling addict will sale their properties and take loans to fund their gambling and as they're loosing they'll be obsessed with looking for more money to gamble.

If a person gambles responsibly by doing so with the amount that he can afford to loose, I think that he'll still have fun whether he wins or not. Although we can't deny that gambling is more fun when you're winning but it doesn't mean that it's addiction when you're loosing, unless the gambler is already an addict.
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Personally I believe it's at the winning point that addiction is created but it's usually over looked because of the benefits which is attached to it but at that time when we begin to loss, it comes to our mind that it has taking much of our time that are supposed to be spent on other things. it's the losses that brings about the consciousness that we are over stepping but winnings always create a space for players or gamblers to keeping gambling.

So clearly it's not addictive when you're losing, it only becomes uncontrollable if you're already an addict.
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The moment your gambling habbits starts being a source of concern to others just know that you are beginning to get addicted to gambling. I don't think it's just about winning and losing. People that wins gambling are also addicted as well as people that losses bets more frequently. Once your gambling habbits is coming between you and other aspects of your life, just know that addiction is setting in. If gambling sites is what you open the moment you wake up from sleep every morning, and the last thing before bed. When you spend most of your time in gambling shops, sites you are getting addicted, it doesn't matter if you are winning or losing bets frequently.
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It's quite the opposite. It's addictive when you win, not when you lose.
Imagine losing all the time, when you gamble. Would you ever become addicted? Hell no. That's why all casinos let the gamblers win a few times, before the gamblers start betting higher amounts and lose all their money. Grin The process of getting addicted starts when your brain gets that dopamine boost. It's the same with all the other addictions. Your brain feels really good at the beginning, that's why you keep playing and you want to feel again the same feeling of excitement and euphoria.
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Both can be addictive; it all depends on the situation and the person’s view at a certain moment. Naturally, everyone likes to win, and if this happens more often than losing, a person believes in his specialties, and that is, he will not be able to accept it and will continue to play. This is how you can fall into the clutches of addiction. When we win, we receive dopamine; this is the hormone of joy, the receipt of which in the body always responds very positively and, as a rule, requires regular repetition.
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I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.
Of course, when we are winning, we don't see gambling as something that it can ruined our life, and on the contrary, it certainly did help us financially. But the thing is that when we started to lose, it's very different, our mindset has change and we really want to get back at gambling and trying to recoup our loses or have that kind of feeling again, we wanted to replicated that adrenaline rush. Others says it's about control, but for gamblers, it's really hard to control our emotions and then we fell into addiction. Or if we don't become addict, obviously, the financial damage will takes it toll on us. Or even we get depressed and can't function normally in a day or two because we could have lost big money in just one sitting.
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Yesterday in a similar thread I agreed that there is no positives with addiction. Addiction could not negativity therefore it doesn't matter the weather you are having a winning streak or a losing streak in gambling as long as it's affect your daily functioning, your career ,your relationships, your finances , your mental health and your life in general it is an addiction. And something must be done immediately to handle it before it becomes too late.
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It's agreeably more fun to win than lose and if one is greedy enough, they can play more games to increase winnings since it is a positive feeling and reinforcement to ones emotions.
When one experience losses, where it pains the most is when there is the urge to try further and in many cases, the losses is compounded and this plunges one into a very emotional negative state.
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If gambling is taking much of your time like gambling at workplace and also gambling when you suppose to be sleeping, making your sleep shorter than it should be and making your health not to be as it should be and  making you have headache and body pains. If you are making money from gambling but this is happening to you, that is still gambling addiction. But if someone spend more time in gambling like this, it is certain that the person is losing money.
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Growing up, my dad would tell me, that you have to give yourself to studying your books, you have to read as though your life depends on it, and that in pursuant of success, you have to be addicted to getting only good results. I obeyed as a little boy and it caused me to become isolated from people in pursuit of academic success. The isolation hard negative effect on me but because it yielded positive academic results through the grade I came home with, it wasn't looked at as an issue for my parents because I was winning. But do you know how they will feel if after giving in too much time I wasn't getting results? The negative definition of addiction would have set it.

I guess this is the same with most gambling experiences. As long as you're winning, it's not addictive that you're gambling way more than usual or that you're being more frequent at betting sites at the negligence of another aspect of your life. That is when people mostly talk about gambling as being fun because they are winning and when it doesn't go in Their favor and they continue to lose at several bets, it's tagged addiction, and solutions and remedies for the situation start popping up here, and there but if the same person starts winning almost at the same time on a stretch, He's no longer looked at as an addict.

Is it that the  definition of gambling being fun is mostly applicable to moments when you're winning.
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