Topic: Where best to enjoy this forum... (Read 599 times)
To me both android and laptop is better and they both have advantages and disadvantages. I believe some people preferred android to Laptop while some preferred laptop to android because of how acquainted they are to the preferred one.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Using computer is far far better than using ordinary android phone. Especially when you are in the forum. Some apps can not even open if you are using Android phone in operating. but if it's a computer you are using, before you know it had opened. When you are using a computer you will feel so comfortable and safe to some extent because nothing like my phone version is not this or is not that. It will view all possible images and videos.When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Certainly, desktop will be the most preferable for everyone, except those who haven't used the desktop version of the forum.
Basically, anything that has do with websites is always built on a desktop mode, so its best effort is presented on the desktop version for a better and convenient usage. So every mobile version is just an alternative version in case one is not in a private environment to use a bigger device.
Personally, i have been using the mobile version and I'm getting convenient with it as I'm not always free to visit the forum at home, so I usually visit and comment using my mobile devices.
If you also want to get a better user experience of the forum you can browse the forum using Tor browser it's also a privacy browser and a good one for the everyday user as it gives a better view of the website.
some time android phone can be more useful. that's in time of portability and also other things like battery life.Basically, anything that has do with websites is always built on a desktop mode, so its best effort is presented on the desktop version for a better and convenient usage. So every mobile version is just an alternative version in case one is not in a private environment to use a bigger device.
Personally, i have been using the mobile version and I'm getting convenient with it as I'm not always free to visit the forum at home, so I usually visit and comment using my mobile devices.
If you also want to get a better user experience of the forum you can browse the forum using Tor browser it's also a privacy browser and a good one for the everyday user as it gives a better view of the website.
Android phones are more portable in a way that they can be used anywhere at any time. Some time you might not be convenient to hold computer system with you due to its size and also fear of the battery been shut down unexpectedly. Even though computer system or desktop is more better in many aspect.
Computer system and desktop are not the only devices that you can see the forum in a bold size, because they are also iPad, which when using you can see the forum in a bold size, but those three devices are not compared to the phone, because not only for the stress of zooming in or zooming out you might have some health complications that can affect your eye due to the prolonged stress to the eye that can cause migraine, dry eyes, blurred vision, and many more, but if you are using the desktop or computer you will have less danger to your eyes, so the best and recommended way to have a good experience in the forum is using the computer system of desktop, and again i can also recommend iPad, because of it size and is will have less stress to the eyes and movement because you can't move freely with your computer system as you will move with your iPad.
Oyess iPad will serve very well as per mobility sake and as well give every other comfort... Regarding health danger of using phones, it might not necessarily have immediate effect, of which eyes health differs, so if not immediate over time the defect will definitely show up.... Leaving computer systems the front runners... Not until a mobile version...
If you started using your phone to write comments in some trends you have idea and read some trends to gain ideas, it will make laptop easy for you to use when you upgrade to that level because laptop makes the writing and reading easy for the users.
I guess many seniors members use phone to start their journey in the forum from school those days, before they upgraded to computer to remained permanent with computers in their office or at home to make some post that will make them to achieve payment in their signature campaign or reply some comments that will make newbies to learn new things.
If you are a student, i guess phone is the best for you to enjoy the forum, and even though you have class or you are inside the class you can use your phone to check new update in the forum, and you can even contribute to some trends in the forum.
I guess many seniors members use phone to start their journey in the forum from school those days, before they upgraded to computer to remained permanent with computers in their office or at home to make some post that will make them to achieve payment in their signature campaign or reply some comments that will make newbies to learn new things.
If you are a student, i guess phone is the best for you to enjoy the forum, and even though you have class or you are inside the class you can use your phone to check new update in the forum, and you can even contribute to some trends in the forum.
This topic is open only to personal interpretation given that whatever you say isn't universal and will be regarded as your own opinion as it may not be the best in my opinion. That said, I think it's better experienced on mobile, even if the forum is built for desktop, it's better on mobile on browsers with desktop view option, since you can take your phone anywhere, and you can be active on the forum even on the go, and for the sake of mobility I think it's the better, since it doesn't lack essential functionality.
The forum by default operates on a desktop version and not a mobile so it will be better on the former but you can easily get used to either.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
While using your personal computer to text on the forum is very enjoyable, it is not as convenient as using a phone when you are stationary. Additionally, even though the forum is easier to see on a laptop, what will you do if you see the login on a TV using your computer?
Make use of any device of your choice to login to the forum and enjoy the suitability of what it offers here, but you need to remember one thing about using either the computer system to operate the forum or the mobile device.
1. you can be able to undo and action on the system which you cannot use such feature on mobile device
2. there is word suggestions on using a mobile phone to operate the forum and such improve they typing speed you may require while on system, you will have to use the word suggestion or dictionary function before wrong spellings could be corrected
The forum by default operates on a desktop version and not a mobile so it will be better on the former but you can easily get used to either.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
While using your personal computer to text on the forum is very enjoyable, it is not as convenient as using a phone when you are stationary. Additionally, even though the forum is easier to see on a laptop, what will you do if you see the login on a TV using your computer?
Make use of any device of your choice to login to the forum and enjoy the suitability of what it offers here, but you need to remember one thing about using either the computer system to operate the forum or the mobile device.
1. you can be able to undo and action on the system which you cannot use such feature on mobile device
2. there is word suggestions on using a mobile phone to operate the forum and such improve they typing speed you may require while on system, you will have to use the word suggestion or dictionary function before wrong spellings could be corrected
Using a laptop to operate in this forum is very good and it look standard but some people prefer their android phone to the laptop while some prefer the laptop to their android phone and I believe they have their reasons but if you are not a computer literate using laptop will be kind of complex, imagine someone that doesn't know how to operate mouse
and don't even know where those buttons are that will be time consuming and laptop consumed data like mad. Moreover, you can't operate your laptop anywhere unlike your android phone you can operate it anywhere provide there is network.
and don't even know where those buttons are that will be time consuming and laptop consumed data like mad. Moreover, you can't operate your laptop anywhere unlike your android phone you can operate it anywhere provide there is network.
If you want to see the desktop look then there's desktop mode or desktop in browsers but as other forum members explained that the text will be small so that you have to zoom it. Well, we all have our own preference on what we prefer to use like using computer or mobile devices. For me, I don't have any issues whatever I am using either a computer/laptop or a mobile phone for that matter and I can enjoy the same forum either using a computer/laptop or even a mobile phone since you can use either of the devices to read or respond to other forum members posts.
Don't get things twisted... In using your desktop, would there be need to zoom? I guess no... Desktop mode on your mobile phone browser doesn't change the fact that it is still on mobile phone provided that there is no mobile version of this forum... If not majority, at least most times the forum is accessed with a mobile phone that means people have to go about it as it is, but that doesn't mean that a mobile version wouldn't give a different aura altogether compared to using a mobile phone now...
What u are saying is through bcos I found it very difficult to make post in this forum using phone even to be going through other people's post in de forum. There some threads in de forum where u have to edit some code so doing this with phone is really boring. But with computer system it is quite different .
I know it’s very easy and convenient to post with a computer, but I don’t just know why I prefer posting with my mobile phone, I hardly post with my laptop. Maybe that’s because I am always with my mobile phone, and my laptop is not always close to me. I do post mostly with my phone. I don’t find it difficult when editing codes. When I want to reply to a post, I do copy the post to my note, so I write anything I want to write on my note, then I copy and paste it on the forum, then I submit the post.A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
I've participated in a number of forums on both my phone and desktop. This one is particularly intriguing because it includes a moderator, who is invaluable in correcting misinformation, as we all know. This implies that the information we learn from the forum is 70% accurate, and one can simply build on that.
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My recommendation is to build good strength and connection in the local community first which will guide you in worth and information both then you can share views in rules boundary on other sections as well.
It is also important to understand the topic of conversation. If not, don't even respond, the post will definitely be considered trash.My recommendation is to build good strength and connection in the local community first which will guide you in worth and information both then you can share views in rules boundary on other sections as well.
To get into the topic, it's also better to read carefully first, then you can express what you think and connect with other users here.
The information here is very clear without anything being hidden. If you can get the gist of the conversation, you might get knowledge that is even paid for out there.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The usage performance of these computer users is different than that of mobile users in general. Of course, if you want to enjoy something good, you can enjoy it best if you have a computer, because you can reach the top of success in every way. The more you enjoy this forum, the more you will enjoy it. So from both sides I think the joy is more if you manage it right.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Haha, this is a Bitcoin forum and the fun is mostly in discussing lively threads on Bitcoin discussion, somehow you can find trading as well in the trading discussions. To just chill you can look forward to 2 hot threads in speculations on WO, Wall-Observers, and Buy the Dip and Hold.
Anyway mostly people find local discussions more helpful in guidance and information but to observe the trends and have an idea of what the community thinks what they know you need to look into other sections as well. My recommendation is to build good strength and connection in the local community first which will guide you in worth and information both then you can share views in rules boundary on other sections as well.
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A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Every platform is always better on the computer than on the phone and that's something that has to do with phone capacity it is not the website is mobile compatible. Besides, if you check some applications on the mobile and the computer version of it you'll see that the mobile version always lacks some functionalities which is available on the computer app version. When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Maybe if you have been used to using android device, you may not like the idea of using the computer to login the forum, because by then, you're already used to how the interface appears on the mobile device than on the computer, its also by how often we make use of a particular device, some have desktop while some theirs is a laptop which is movable, they all have their advantages and disadvantages and all is base on our choice and what we want, than what other people want from us, we should make use of any device we feel more suitable and convenient for us.
Probably most users use this forum via desktop. I haven't logged into my account on mobile yet so can't tell how much fun browsing this forum is on mobile but running this forum on desktop is fun enough. But although the number of desktop users is high, there are definitely users of this forum through mobile. Desktop or mobile it doesn't matter basically the user uses this forum in the way he feels comfortable.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
You are right the interface on a PC or desktop is definitely not same as that seen on the phone all tho it doesn't change the functionalities but then the view and even the fonts are most definitely not the same as Al and can never be compared to each or more other as they aren't even close enough in comparison but then i think a pad or a note tab can also give a fairly relative nice view too aswell so it's also ideal to use it and you can be sure of some of a better experience than thst which you get on phone buy then one sure thing is in the fact that people have their preference and would still prefer phone sometimes due to the flexibility they get and how handy it could be on phone.When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The major difference has to be with the fonts and thats by my experience tho but then it's also okay if the user doesn't have a problem and can cope with it other wise using a bigger device wouldn't be out of place at all.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
I would love to complain about creating tables on mobile phone sucks and better on a computer but your point is directly talking about the forum design, like wow, what do you expect from a forum? Facebook and Twitter design like? Those are social media for videos and pictures and others, this is a forum where designs shouldn't matter to you, if truly you are here to learn something.
You should take your time to visit other forums online, like altcoinstalk for example, I have an account on the forum but I can't use it because of its ugliness, it's only useable on a computer, but on a phone it sucks big, I prefer this forum more than any others.
Like I have said, everything to know about crypto is available on this forum and this should be everything to you, I can't even use another forum because everything I wanted is available on here, knowledge for good looking is a big advantage for those who are seeking knowledge.
Of course, if you use a smartphone to work on the BTT forum and participate in some existing campaigns, it is possible too, but there are limitations that are not the same if we use computer system devices. Well, the most vulnerable is errors in work and unstable networks at any time and also the folders that we arrange are not as neat as they are on our computers whether the contents are special or general.
I only use my smartphone as an access to ordinary information such as checking notifications in group telegrams or checking market prices and opening the exchange application that I have downloaded.
I only use my smartphone as an access to ordinary information such as checking notifications in group telegrams or checking market prices and opening the exchange application that I have downloaded.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
What u are saying is through bcos I found it very difficult to make post in this forum using phone even to be going through other people's post in de forum. There some threads in de forum where u have to edit some code so doing this with phone is really boring. But with computer system it is quite different .
The forum by default operates on a desktop version and not a mobile so it will be better on the former but you can easily get used to either.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
While using your personal computer to text on the forum is very enjoyable, it is not as convenient as using a phone when you are stationary. Additionally, even though the forum is easier to see on a laptop, what will you do if you see the login on a TV using your computer?
This forum is most comfortable to use on a computer. I've been working on mobile for a long time, but I never felt satisfied working on mobile, and I couldn't work on mobile for long, and this forum is designed for desktop. So after working on mobile for meny day, finally I bought a desktop a few days ago. Now I feel very satisfied working on this forum through desktop and I feel satisfied working long hours.
It's more easier and and satisfactory when using desktop or laptop, as one can navigate and perform others task the speed to which one make the post using this two garget can't be compare to smart phone unless those who are more proficient in use if smart phone.
Iove using laptop because it allows me to use certain character when making post which I can't access when using smart phone as I am not too good on the use.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The fact is that using the desktop is best when we come to do something big, which is in such a capacity that our Android phone cannot do the type of work you want to apply for the phone. And the most challenging reason that so many people's face why they're not used to computer systems or, let's say, laptops is because not all people know how to operate them. That's why almost all people prefer to use their mobile phones for whatever they want to do.When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Like this forum, I know some people are using laptops to do their signatures, and according to them that, it's very fast for them to use the Android phone. But for me, I preferred to use my mobile, because I always took a laptop that I was not able to operate since it would not make my work faster the way I wanted it, and that's why I was proud of my Android phone by the time I'm used it for the Internet and other things.
Nothing is complete in itself without its demerits. Maybe PCs and desktops will give better coverage than mobile phones but have we also compared the comfort and ease mobile phones afford us over computers? You can't have your cake and eat it. I can't remember accessing this forum more than twice on computer since I got registered about seven years ago, I'm a phone person. Apart from the demerit of having to zoom in and out with phone, I prefer using mobile phones to PC. It's way comfortable for me. I can do my reading and posting even while on transit but that won't be comfy for PC users on transit.
One half what it uses to write in the forum so on neither use computer to make your post or you use Android phone to make your post was not most of us that uses a computer cannot type with a Android phone that is the difference between people that use computer to make a post and the people that use Android phone to make a post, like me I find it very difficult to make use of Android they and its boring to me and I don't enjoy it for me I prefer using a laptop computer to make my post and it is faster for me
The first half of your post is unclear but I think I understand the latter part. Choosing between accessing the forum through a mobile device or pc is a personal preference so I’m not going to ask you how using a mobile device is “boring”. We all will opt for the one we are most comfortable with. For me, I often visit the forum through my mobile phone. My daily activities do not give me the opportunity to sit in front of a computer, but with a mobile phone I can access the forum whenever I want. 
One half what it uses to write in the forum so on neither use computer to make your post or you use Android phone to make your post was not most of us that uses a computer cannot type with a Android phone that is the difference between people that use computer to make a post and the people that use Android phone to make a post, like me I find it very difficult to make use of Android they and its boring to me and I don't enjoy it for me I prefer using a laptop computer to make my post and it is faster for me
I think that when it comes to convenience and clearer images, the computer is more preferable than the mobile phones, with a computer you can relax and engage in the forum activities business-like, than with a mobile phone. I however use a mobile phone, because I don't have the luxury of sitting down during the day to navigate the forum, I can move around anywhere anytime and easily bring out my phone and brows through. So a mobile phone is better for me because of easy accessibility to the internet anywhere that I am, so far there's internet connection in the location.
In terms of ease of access, using a cellphone would be the best. especially those who are quite busy at certain times and want to access the forum during their break.However, in appearance, accessing the forum using a cellphone is not comfortable. especially for those who experience problems with their vision. reading by having to zoom in and out is very torturous. especially typing with a keyboard on a cell phone, which becomes even more difficult if you have big enough thumbs.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
You are a big lier and don't think that everyone in this community does not have a system. Well using a system gives you the organic design and makes it looks good but for typing and writing, phone is better for mist people not ust for me. Almost 80% of people in this community would prefer to use phone for writing compared to a system. There are some certain things you could want to do that would be better for you to use a system but their are still people that use phone for everything they needed to do on the forum including reading because you would not have to go close when you use a system. Also there are some certain browsers you are going to use that will make it difficult for you to enter the forum with you phone. When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The forum by default operates on a desktop version and not a mobile so it will be better on the former but you can easily get used to either.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
It's more fun with a laptop or PC, apart from being able to open several windows, you can also read news sources more clearly, that way you can be more relaxed at work and focused, even when you're at the coffee shop you can have more freedom. Forums are more enjoyable if this is done, the important thing is that every job has to have love, even if the job seems relaxed, because if it is not relaxed then everything will feel boring. 2024 will become a reality in achieving this success.
Give it some time to get used to it, and trust me, you will enjoy it on every device you use. The issue might be with your browser rather than the device itself if you didn’t enjoy the experience on android, moreover I have noticed that the larger screen is better. Personally, I mostly use my iPad with the Safari browser.
Xd, I think I might have developed an addiction to the forum because I can't resist not checking the updates every few hours, at work or while studying.
Try browsing Show unread posts since last visit. It will keep you updated on what's happening in the Bitcoin, altcoin, and crypto world. Take your time to engage in discussions with members here and make friends. The forum's design is simple and easy on the eyes to me, without too many visual effects.
Xd, I think I might have developed an addiction to the forum because I can't resist not checking the updates every few hours, at work or while studying.
Try browsing Show unread posts since last visit. It will keep you updated on what's happening in the Bitcoin, altcoin, and crypto world. Take your time to engage in discussions with members here and make friends. The forum's design is simple and easy on the eyes to me, without too many visual effects.
This forum is most comfortable to use on a computer. I've been working on mobile for a long time, but I never felt satisfied working on mobile, and I couldn't work on mobile for long, and this forum is designed for desktop. So after working on mobile for meny day, finally I bought a desktop a few days ago. Now I feel very satisfied working on this forum through desktop and I feel satisfied working long hours.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
Enjoying the forum on a mobile browser is not as free as enjoying it by opening it on a computer or laptop desktop browser.When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The use of mobile browsers on smartphones is very limited in terms of area and each keyboard letter is very small which does not fit the size of my fingers even though I can also use it well even though there are difficulties in typing posts and other parts such as technical matters.
In my experience, using the desktop version of the forum is better than using it on mobile.
I think that when it comes to convenience and clearer images, the computer is more preferable than the mobile phones, with a computer you can relax and engage in the forum activities business-like, than with a mobile phone. I however use a mobile phone, because I don't have the luxury of sitting down during the day to navigate the forum, I can move around anywhere anytime and easily bring out my phone and brows through. So a mobile phone is better for me because of easy accessibility to the internet anywhere that I am, so far there's internet connection in the location.
In terms of ease of access, using a cellphone would be the best. especially those who are quite busy at certain times and want to access the forum during their break.However, in appearance, accessing the forum using a cellphone is not comfortable. especially for those who experience problems with their vision. reading by having to zoom in and out is very torturous. especially typing with a keyboard on a cell phone, which becomes even more difficult if you have big enough thumbs.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
This is not only applicable to this forum but majority of the website are more convenient and clarity when browsing through computer. If you want to have the best experience, PC would serve you that but each individual has their preferred choice of browsing and interacting with this forum. I prefer to navigate on the forum using my phone for many reasons. Firstly, phone is more convenient to me since I have other activities to engage with offline, I don't often have time to sit and face the pc. Secondly is the faster typing. I type fast using my phone whenever I want to contribute to any discussion here because I'm too familiar with my phone keyboard. I am a slow typist when using computer, not that I'm not familiar with the keyboard but I don't often use it make it strange to me when typing. Pc of course offers best experience regardless but the choice is yours to go for the one that makes things easier for you.
I think that when it comes to convenience and clearer images, the computer is more preferable than the mobile phones, with a computer you can relax and engage in the forum activities business-like, than with a mobile phone. I however use a mobile phone, because I don't have the luxury of sitting down during the day to navigate the forum, I can move around anywhere anytime and easily bring out my phone and brows through. So a mobile phone is better for me because of easy accessibility to the internet anywhere that I am, so far there's internet connection in the location.
Most of the things that are invisible in the mobile phones are visible in the computer. And another this again. When you are uploading avatar and signature, mostly signature it is very simple when you used desktop computer or laptop to upload them. In mobile phones it is very difficult to highlight the signature text and insert in your signature space. But in computer it is very easy to highlight and put it in the space without stress. Just that most of us have mastered using the mobile phones than using computers.
The hovering of Op to see the prescription behind can be seen only on computer. So for those who are good with computer enjoying using computers compared to mobile phones users.
The hovering of Op to see the prescription behind can be seen only on computer. So for those who are good with computer enjoying using computers compared to mobile phones users.
Computer system and desktop are not the only devices that you can see the forum in a bold size, because they are also iPad, which when using you can see the forum in a bold size, but those three devices are not compared to the phone, because not only for the stress of zooming in or zooming out you might have some health complications that can affect your eye due to the prolonged stress to the eye that can cause migraine, dry eyes, blurred vision, and many more, but if you are using the desktop or computer you will have less danger to your eyes, so the best and recommended way to have a good experience in the forum is using the computer system of desktop, and again i can also recommend iPad, because of it size and is will have less stress to the eyes and movement because you can't move freely with your computer system as you will move with your iPad.
This forum is better on computer but I like it on some browsers on my Android which makes it nice for me. I like it mostly on VIA and Duckduckgo. If you know how to use PHX browser and disable the notifications and news feeds, it is also good on the device if you can always skip the ads. You will even like the dark mode on VIA and PHX. But I also like the automatic dark mode on my Edge browser on Windows. I type faster on phone which makes me use phone than laptop and I like the experience.
There are two places, namely when outside to use your free time using a smartphone but only to control and see market developments. and when I'm at home I usually use a laptop because I can work more optimally while sleeping and can also open several tabs or browsers. Another thing is to distribute working time because this is also a strategy to make more optimal and systematic use of the forum. Even so, still follow the suggestions and input from others, who knows if there is a better way.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
I think the interface is the same in both phone and system. The browser you are using is what makes the difference in the view of the forum, but the mode of operation and ways of navigating through the forum is the same for both phones and Desktops or PC.When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The only difference you can see is when you install the BPIP extension on your system’s browser. If you install the extension, you will see different functions your phones will not show you direct, functions like merits in the last 120 days, forum ranks, number of posts in various sections, the sections you mostly interact in.
Using PC with extension installed makes the forum easy to use.
I have been using this forum on my desktop and laptop and so far I have never had any issue. Even on desktop I have zoomed the forum a lot so I can see the text fully without losing focus.
A few times I have used this forum on my smartphone but the experience on mobile screen wasn't good at all, and I found it not enjoyable.
I prefer to use this forum on either my desktop PC which's the main device that I use to browse this forum, or on my laptop when I want some portability.
A few times I have used this forum on my smartphone but the experience on mobile screen wasn't good at all, and I found it not enjoyable.
I prefer to use this forum on either my desktop PC which's the main device that I use to browse this forum, or on my laptop when I want some portability.
If you want to see the desktop look then there's desktop mode or desktop in browsers but as other forum members explained that the text will be small so that you have to zoom it. Well, we all have our own preference on what we prefer to use like using computer or mobile devices. For me, I don't have any issues whatever I am using either a computer/laptop or a mobile phone for that matter and I can enjoy the same forum either using a computer/laptop or even a mobile phone since you can use either of the devices to read or respond to other forum members posts.
As far as I know, there have been attempts on integrating this forum in a friendlier mobile application for ease of access into some services, which was discussed into this topic already:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/suggestion-epochtalkbitcointalk-mobile-app-ui-5296215
Though I do agree that accessing the forum is easier in a desktop setup, I would love if some would develop it fully in a mobile application. Given that lots of people are using their mobile devices almost everywhere, having a designated application for this forum would not only be helpful but also convenient.
I think that is the point of this post- OP is asking if there are any applications or attempts on creating/developing a "friendly mobile" application to access this forum. While I do agree that this forum was created primarily to cater to PC or laptop users, there is always that demand for a creation in mobile applications.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/suggestion-epochtalkbitcointalk-mobile-app-ui-5296215
Though I do agree that accessing the forum is easier in a desktop setup, I would love if some would develop it fully in a mobile application. Given that lots of people are using their mobile devices almost everywhere, having a designated application for this forum would not only be helpful but also convenient.
I read and write on the forum from a computer; a large screen and a comfortable keyboard are big pluses. By being able to see the entire text, we also have a greater ability to move around the forum comfortably, even with such a strict style that some people find boring.
I think that is the point of this post- OP is asking if there are any applications or attempts on creating/developing a "friendly mobile" application to access this forum. While I do agree that this forum was created primarily to cater to PC or laptop users, there is always that demand for a creation in mobile applications.
The most comfortable way to explore this forum is by using a computer. but it's not uncommon for me to use a smartphone, but not too often.
When I use a smartphone and want to display the entire text which is almost the same as the desktop, I definitely activate the desktop site. but when the text is too small you still have to zoom in first until it is comfortable to read.
When I use a smartphone and want to display the entire text which is almost the same as the desktop, I definitely activate the desktop site. but when the text is too small you still have to zoom in first until it is comfortable to read.
The title of the topic is somewhat confusing, perhaps due to translation difficulties. OP, by default, I would award all users who use a mobile phone, and especially those who write large and useful posts from it, a separate title for patience.
I read and write on the forum from a computer; a large screen and a comfortable keyboard are big pluses. By being able to see the entire text, we also have a greater ability to move around the forum comfortably, even with such a strict style that some people find boring.
Nevertheless, the forum allows you to receive some privileges to earn money for a computer or laptop. Let this goal serve as a good motivation for newcomers to stay on the forum.
Probably translation issue. However your respond implies absolute understanding of the topic... From your personal experience you are attesting that Using phone is actually a different experience from a computer... That was what I sawI read and write on the forum from a computer; a large screen and a comfortable keyboard are big pluses. By being able to see the entire text, we also have a greater ability to move around the forum comfortably, even with such a strict style that some people find boring.
Nevertheless, the forum allows you to receive some privileges to earn money for a computer or laptop. Let this goal serve as a good motivation for newcomers to stay on the forum.
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
It is always inconvenient and uncomfortable when you use your mobile devices for typing. For reading, no big problem with mobile devices.Quote
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
Generally mobile devices like your phones, are unsecured and less secured than your desktop computers or laptops. For important things, don't do it on your mobile devices.It's for your OPSEC.
You can use your mobile devices for reading posts in forum or even for posting, but for your forum account security, it's better if you log in your account on desktop computer or laptop, with better security.
Use strong passwords and turn on 2FA (it is only an option).
[GUIDE] How to Create a Strong/Secure Password
Are your passwords in the green?
2FA added
A concise 2FA/TOTP implementation (SMF patch)
The title of the topic is somewhat confusing, perhaps due to translation difficulties. OP, by default, I would award all users who use a mobile phone, and especially those who write large and useful posts from it, a separate title for patience.
I read and write on the forum from a computer; a large screen and a comfortable keyboard are big pluses. By being able to see the entire text, we also have a greater ability to move around the forum comfortably, even with such a strict style that some people find boring.
Nevertheless, the forum allows you to receive some privileges to earn money for a computer or laptop. Let this goal serve as a good motivation for newcomers to stay on the forum.
I read and write on the forum from a computer; a large screen and a comfortable keyboard are big pluses. By being able to see the entire text, we also have a greater ability to move around the forum comfortably, even with such a strict style that some people find boring.
Nevertheless, the forum allows you to receive some privileges to earn money for a computer or laptop. Let this goal serve as a good motivation for newcomers to stay on the forum.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
Come on bro the difference isn't much, besides most devices today have the capacity to handle whatever sis thrown at them..When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
Btw, the user experience on mobile is not any different from the desktop experience as far as my usage goes...unless a user is using some operating system or device older than 15 years that can't handle the simple machines UI... otherwise it's a small difference between the two.
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When it comes to updates for example, PC or phone the forum alone isn't enough if you aren't using email updates to stay up to date..you need supporting tools such as the telegram bot notifier just so you can follow up any mentions of you and this is why I say PC and mobile are not much different. 
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The forum design was fine in my opinion and the admin prefers it this way, I remember they removed GIFs in the forum, just to make it this look like just text, and everything looks kinda of old. But functionality-wise this is how a forum should be since its all about the information you are meant to be reading and typing, I don't have any issue with the design for sure and it does its job great, I don't think we need to add anything on that, it also makes it last for a long time considering the storage of the data if we are going to include a lot of GIFs, photo, video and put it here that is going to take a huge space for sure.
I gonna have to agree, there were some issues when it came to smartphone use because of the small size of the screen, but you could still make your way on it, it just a matter of what you're going to prefer using, there are a lot of members that prefer using a smartphone when they are using the forum, Personally I prefer using desktop or laptop because of the huge screen, It was just difficult to navigate on a smartphone but still doable anyway.
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
It is always inconvenient and uncomfortable when you use your mobile devices for typing. For reading, no big problem with mobile devices.Quote
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
Generally mobile devices like your phones, are unsecured and less secured than your desktop computers or laptops. For important things, don't do it on your mobile devices.It's for your OPSEC.
You can use your mobile devices for reading posts in forum or even for posting, but for your forum account security, it's better if you log in your account on desktop computer or laptop, with better security.
Use strong passwords and turn on 2FA (it is only an option).
[GUIDE] How to Create a Strong/Secure Password
Are your passwords in the green?
2FA added
A concise 2FA/TOTP implementation (SMF patch)
I've browsed the forum from my mobile device for a very long time now, and at this point i am so used to it that i can't really complain of anything, even though i must admit that it was not all "fun" from the beginning. We have been waiting for the new forum software for ages now, it is expected to have a mobile version, but you'd get used to using the forum from your mobile this way, sooner than we'd get the new forum software (if ever 
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That is adaptation for you mate. Whatever you use consistently for years, even if it's not the best version of that thing, you will tend to adapt to it because you are used to it. I also access the forum for most of the times with the phones. Although I have used and attested that the desktop version is the best.).When you inquire from web designers you will understand that when they are treating responsiveness, they pay more attention to mobile compatibility (mobile first). Many people access the internet and forums like this more from the mobile phone than from the desktop.
Yeah, viewing on a mobile phone can be a struggle. The best suggestion I've encountered to alleviate this was to view on a landscape mode.
In my case, whenever I wanna check the forum on my couch or when away from my PC, I prefer to use my 11 inch tablet. It does the job for me and I'd say experience is pleasant. I tend to use the split screen feature too lol. I was actually thinking if I should size down to 8 inch 🤔
In my case, whenever I wanna check the forum on my couch or when away from my PC, I prefer to use my 11 inch tablet. It does the job for me and I'd say experience is pleasant. I tend to use the split screen feature too lol. I was actually thinking if I should size down to 8 inch 🤔
I've browsed the forum from my mobile device for a very long time now, and at this point i am so used to it that i can't really complain of anything, even though i must admit that it was not all "fun" from the beginning. We have been waiting for the new forum software for ages now, it is expected to have a mobile version, but you'd get used to using the forum from your mobile this way, sooner than we'd get the new forum software (if ever ).
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Personally, i have been using the mobile version and I'm getting convenient with it as I'm not always free to visit the forum at home, so I usually visit and comment using my mobile devices.
If you also want to get a better user experience of the forum you can browse the forum using Tor browser it's also a privacy browser and a good one for the everyday user as it gives a better view of the website.
The thing with using desktop is the fact that Some features will be hiding on mobile while visible on the desktop versions. And the desktop versions are magnified as they should be due to screen size. One of the reason why I see people use phone is because of the keyboard typing, many people aren’t able to type properly on a system keyboard but since the mobile phones key board are more convenient since they are small and people use them frequently they are acquainted with it
Aside the fact that Tor browser actually helps in terms of privacy, I don’t see any other features that some other browsers do not have even the view in some browsers seems better
Certainly, desktop will be the most preferable for everyone, except those who haven't used the desktop version of the forum.
Basically, anything that has do with websites is always built on a desktop mode, so its best effort is presented on the desktop version for a better and convenient usage. So every mobile version is just an alternative version in case one is not in a private environment to use a bigger device.
Personally, i have been using the mobile version and I'm getting convenient with it as I'm not always free to visit the forum at home, so I usually visit and comment using my mobile devices.
If you also want to get a better user experience of the forum you can browse the forum using Tor browser it's also a privacy browser and a good one for the everyday user as it gives a better view of the website.
Basically, anything that has do with websites is always built on a desktop mode, so its best effort is presented on the desktop version for a better and convenient usage. So every mobile version is just an alternative version in case one is not in a private environment to use a bigger device.
Personally, i have been using the mobile version and I'm getting convenient with it as I'm not always free to visit the forum at home, so I usually visit and comment using my mobile devices.
If you also want to get a better user experience of the forum you can browse the forum using Tor browser it's also a privacy browser and a good one for the everyday user as it gives a better view of the website.
I too had that feeling. Nevertheless at a point, you would even prefer the using the forum on your mobile phone rather than on your computer out of convivence. All you have to do is zoom in and out.
I think one of the key important benefits of accessing the forum on a desktop is the fact that, links and codes are highlighted once you place your mouse of them. This in turn reviews what is within the link and therefore, prevents phishing by clicking unknown links for those that are very observant. Other than this, the other benefits to it is superficial.Superficial in the sense that, it’s just some of those benefits you get from using a large screened device.
It’s really an individual thing, more of where you use more for an access point and getting used to that point. For some, the desktop keyboard might be way too large for typing than the mobile device, mobile devices brings the display closer to your face while the desktop have got a more eligible font and many other differences.
I too had that feeling. Nevertheless at a point, you would even prefer the using the forum on your mobile phone rather than on your computer out of convivence. All you have to do is zoom in and out.
Is zooming in and zooming out not enough stress on its own? I use both mobile and desktop to browse through the forum, and I can boldly tell you that I enjoy browsing the forum on my desktop. If you are using your mobile phone, there are some common mistakes you can easily make when navigating through the forum, like adding someone on ignore without realising it, quoting errors, and other common errors that you could have easily noticed and avoided by using the big screen to comment on the forum.
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
As much as I agree with you that it works better when approached with a computer system, the absence of it will not mean that you cannot do almost everything with your phone if you're not opportune to have one. I think the only major challenge I encountered in using the forum was wearing my signature for signature campaigns and the fact that I'm very much used to computer made me somehow lazy to use my phone actively, but I still know friends that use their phone only and are very fine, following everything that's relevant the forum.I totally agree with you when it comes to participating in challenges because most of them are based on applications that cannot run with phone limited capacity. Computer is much better, and someone that just uses a phone isn't excluded and can also participate in forum activities properly until he's able to purchase a PC.
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I too had that feeling. Nevertheless at a point, you would even prefer the using the forum on your mobile phone rather than on your computer out of convivence. All you have to do is zoom in and out.
The only difficulty you may experience with a mobile phone is if you want to create tables.
The users who understand the forum software and programming will explain the technical part for you.
Using your mobile phone? For mobility that's true, that is longing in any where there is network. But I don't think it's enough reason for comparism. If using phone is that convenient upgrade00 wouldn't talk about mobile version... Along side saying that the default design is for computers. For me the difference is clear and incomparable..A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The sudden realization that the view of the forum on the computer screen is better than the mobile screen must have been a relief. When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
I too had that feeling. Nevertheless at a point, you would even prefer the using the forum on your mobile phone rather than on your computer out of convivence. All you have to do is zoom in and out.
The only difficulty you may experience with a mobile phone is if you want to create tables.
The users who understand the forum software and programming will explain the technical part for you.
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I too had that feeling. Nevertheless at a point, you would even prefer the using the forum on your mobile phone rather than on your computer out of convivence. All you have to do is zoom in and out.
The only difficulty you may experience with a mobile phone is if you want to create tables.
The users who understand the forum software and programming will explain the technical part for you.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
The sudden realization that the view of the forum on the computer screen is better than the mobile screen must have been a relief. When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
I too had that feeling. Nevertheless at a point, you would even prefer the using the forum on your mobile phone rather than on your computer out of convivence. All you have to do is zoom in and out.
The only difficulty you may experience with a mobile phone is if you want to create tables.
The users who understand the forum software and programming will explain the technical part for you.
This forum is better on computer but I like it on some browsers on my Android which makes it nice for me. I like it mostly on VIA and Duckduckgo. If you know how to use PHX browser and disable the notifications and news feeds, it is also good on the device if you can always skip the ads. You will even like the dark mode on VIA and PHX. But I also like the automatic dark mode on my Edge browser on Windows. I type faster on phone which makes me use phone than laptop and I like the experience.
The forum by default operates on a desktop version and not a mobile so it will be better on the former but you can easily get used to either.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
The new forum software should have a mobile version, so expect that for whenever that gets released.
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...
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