Where do I find addresses holding bankroll of different dice site and casino ?

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Quote from: shulio on June 25, 2015, 12:56:36 AM

That is just for solvency proof and moneypot is taking investment as well. Currently investment is around 150 btc and the cold wallet hold 400 btc so you have no worry of being not able to withdraw your investment. I think from 150 btc invested, Ryan own like 2/3 of the amount . The site is still green btw

Actually the current invested amount is 546 BTC, of which 132 BTC is mine. And the current proof of assets address ( 1NinE5MNy64iUE6zBdJ2fJ2tfQrRs2ERpm ) has 750 BTC on it). =)

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Just head to http://dicesites.com/
It shows the cold wallet addresses of most popular sites.

BitDice.me : 146syqE3vnfQp4VauBRUnUuAgvxMoitxcK, 1P8yKwe4LMRfy1kCBgC97w6Z3D3cNLYbxg
SatoshiDice : 18e5jpfn9zo9GQov1Ks9Pzh6Yam2SvFqqo, 1GBEAxb91tea1magDAQoKnjx18oH4ax2T3
SafeDice : 1SD1ciWyeDNf26YoAUjSsifQZK1ShFJ2s
Moneypot : 1NinE5MNy64iUE6zBdJ2fJ2tfQrRs2ERpm
PRC : 1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd
Dicenow : 1FY3J5Zuh7mp7q47brqr4wHUsUTeVLT8hb, 1Ng5ay5JGnAexiNwGM7fEmq7ZMLMXirUFr...

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 26, 2015, 02:50:51 PM

Actually providing cold wallet address is a standard practice among here. Eventhough a site isnt offering investment but if they are asked by the big boys around here (dooglus and the others ) to provide their cold wallet address then of course they will need to provide it otherwise they would be deem untrustable and a potentially scam site if they refuse (you know what site Im talking about)

So, PrimeDice does not need to show their cold address ?

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Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 26, 2015, 02:36:37 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 23, 2015, 04:09:58 PM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 03:59:06 PM

Well, but for those who are accepting investment in the bankroll, what is the purpose to show the total amount of bankroll ?

It is as a proof the solvency of the site. With the cold wallet address, as a gambler you will then have no worry about the site not being able to pay if by any chance there are a big winner on the site. As for investor this is some sort of monitoring for the site's bankroll and to check on wether if there is any irregularity with the bankroll

Ever since the incident of Diceninja, it has become a standard around here for a site that accept a public investment needs to provide their cold wallet address as a proof for their solvency

So, the games which are not taking investments in the bankroll, do not need to prove solvency ?

Not really, as a matter of facts there are two benefits if a sites provides their cold wallet (bolded them up for you). Providing cold wallet address is indeed to prove solvency which benefits both gamblers and investor. With that said , people could be more confident to bet on a site which proves their solvency and this could lure in more gamblers

Actually providing cold wallet address is a standard practice among here. Eventhough a site isnt offering investment but if they are asked by the big boys around here (dooglus and the others ) to provide their cold wallet address then of course they will need to provide it otherwise they would be deem untrustable and a potentially scam site if they refuse (you know what site Im talking about)

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 23, 2015, 04:09:58 PM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 03:59:06 PM

Well, but for those who are accepting investment in the bankroll, what is the purpose to show the total amount of bankroll ?

It is as a proof the solvency of the site. With the cold wallet address, as a gambler you will then have no worry about the site not being able to pay if by any chance there are a big winner on the site. As for investor this is some sort of monitoring for the site's bankroll and to check on wether if there is any irregularity with the bankroll

Ever since the incident of Diceninja, it has become a standard around here for a site that accept a public investment needs to provide their cold wallet address as a proof for their solvency

So, the games which are not taking investments in the bankroll, do not need to prove solvency ?

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Quote from: yoloer808 on June 25, 2015, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: shulio on June 24, 2015, 01:42:57 PM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 24, 2015, 12:42:22 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

The MoneyPot listed one, is out of date. We don't really intend on having a static cold wallet address, but do keep this page: https://www.moneypot.com/faq#why-should-we-trust-you- up to date with a cold wallet address, and a message proving we control it.

I could not find ant cold wallet address on your given link! Care to share on board ?

I dont know if you are being serious or joking right now but the cold address is listed there with the signature as well . If you are asking that seriously then this

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To demonstrate solvency we have proof-of-liabilities and have signed the message This is an address controlled by moneypot.com for the purpose of cold storage from the address 1BHu79R3AV9x9EVMzKFW9Umq6HKprYRP2M giving the signature of Hy6Tdwc71fYsL9HoNWGT0y6S2pcd8L82U2Pqe5J2CVkyVKcM15j9uFoU+ItNMOU8vqVleXv3xJIqC25COjyhJrE= to demonstrate that we have enough funds

The address has 400 btc on it

Well that's a pretty solid bankroll for a site not taking investments.

That is just for solvency proof and moneypot is taking investment as well. Currently investment is around 150 btc and the cold wallet hold 400 btc so you have no worry of being not able to withdraw your investment. I think from 150 btc invested, Ryan own like 2/3 of the amount . The site is still green btw

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Quote from: shulio on June 24, 2015, 01:42:57 PM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 24, 2015, 12:42:22 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

The MoneyPot listed one, is out of date. We don't really intend on having a static cold wallet address, but do keep this page: https://www.moneypot.com/faq#why-should-we-trust-you- up to date with a cold wallet address, and a message proving we control it.

I could not find ant cold wallet address on your given link! Care to share on board ?

I dont know if you are being serious or joking right now but the cold address is listed there with the signature as well . If you are asking that seriously then this

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To demonstrate solvency we have proof-of-liabilities and have signed the message This is an address controlled by moneypot.com for the purpose of cold storage from the address 1BHu79R3AV9x9EVMzKFW9Umq6HKprYRP2M giving the signature of Hy6Tdwc71fYsL9HoNWGT0y6S2pcd8L82U2Pqe5J2CVkyVKcM15j9uFoU+ItNMOU8vqVleXv3xJIqC25COjyhJrE= to demonstrate that we have enough funds

The address has 400 btc on it

Well that's a pretty solid bankroll for a site not taking investments.

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Quote from: shulio on June 24, 2015, 01:42:57 PM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 24, 2015, 12:42:22 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

The MoneyPot listed one, is out of date. We don't really intend on having a static cold wallet address, but do keep this page: https://www.moneypot.com/faq#why-should-we-trust-you- up to date with a cold wallet address, and a message proving we control it.

I could not find any cold wallet address on your given link! Care to share on board ?

I dont know if you are being serious or joking right now but the cold address is listed there with the signature as well . If you are asking that seriously then this

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To demonstrate solvency we have proof-of-liabilities and have signed the message This is an address controlled by moneypot.com for the purpose of cold storage from the address 1BHu79R3AV9x9EVMzKFW9Umq6HKprYRP2M giving the signature of Hy6Tdwc71fYsL9HoNWGT0y6S2pcd8L82U2Pqe5J2CVkyVKcM15j9uFoU+ItNMOU8vqVleXv3xJIqC25COjyhJrE= to demonstrate that we have enough funds

The address has 400 btc on it

Oops... sorry. I wonder how did I miss that !!! Embarrassed

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Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 24, 2015, 12:42:22 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

The MoneyPot listed one, is out of date. We don't really intend on having a static cold wallet address, but do keep this page: https://www.moneypot.com/faq#why-should-we-trust-you- up to date with a cold wallet address, and a message proving we control it.

I could not find ant cold wallet address on your given link! Care to share on board ?

I dont know if you are being serious or joking right now but the cold address is listed there with the signature as well . If you are asking that seriously then this

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To demonstrate solvency we have proof-of-liabilities and have signed the message This is an address controlled by moneypot.com for the purpose of cold storage from the address 1BHu79R3AV9x9EVMzKFW9Umq6HKprYRP2M giving the signature of Hy6Tdwc71fYsL9HoNWGT0y6S2pcd8L82U2Pqe5J2CVkyVKcM15j9uFoU+ItNMOU8vqVleXv3xJIqC25COjyhJrE= to demonstrate that we have enough funds

The address has 400 btc on it

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Quote from: ?? on ??

The MoneyPot listed one, is out of date. We don't really intend on having a static cold wallet address, but do keep this page: https://www.moneypot.com/faq#why-should-we-trust-you- up to date with a cold wallet address, and a message proving we control it.

I could not find ant cold wallet address on your given link! Care to share on board ?

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Yes correct. Most casino sites never make it public unless they have an affiliate investment program.

You can always make a deposit and track it and see where it ends up however it since its a small deposit it will most likely end up in a hot wallet unless you deposit like 50 BTC.

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Quote from: ticoti on June 23, 2015, 08:06:21 PM

You can make a deposit and see where it goes

deposit funds most of the time doesnt go to the cold wallet address of the site but it is used to pay the withdrawal of some players

Quote from: ticoti on June 23, 2015, 08:06:21 PM

you can ask them too, if they are trustable they will say it

most gambling sites already showed and signed their cold wallet address

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Mostly of those are readily available in their FAQ

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You can make a deposit and see where it goes, or they can have it announced

you can ask them too, if they are trustable they will say it

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Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 03:59:06 PM

Well, but for those who are accepting investment in the bankroll, what is the purpose to show the total amount of bankroll ?

It is as a proof the solvency of the site. With the cold wallet address, as a gambler you will then have no worry about the site not being able to pay if by any chance there are a big winner on the site. As for investor this is some sort of monitoring for the site's bankroll and to check on wether if there is any irregularity with the bankroll

Ever since the incident of Diceninja, it has become a standard around here for a site that accept a public investment needs to provide their cold wallet address as a proof for their solvency

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Quote from: erpbridge on June 23, 2015, 03:52:35 PM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 03:43:14 PM

Quote from: Hexcoin on June 23, 2015, 05:50:13 AM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 04:44:43 AM

The Just-Dice link given above does not show any relevant info. Moreover, no one knows the PrimeDice address holding their bankroll ?

AFAIK primedice want to keep their bankroll secret and they are not required to show proof of funds as because they dont accept investments

Can you please point me to Stunna's statement regarding this ?

I have never seen him comment about it in public . But there is no need for them to show the proof as they do not publicly accept investments, and no private business would care to show you their proof of funds. Since they have paid out 2000 BTC in the past, you can trust them to have that kind of bankroll to payout.

Well, but for those who are accepting investment in the bankroll, what is the purpose to show the total amount of bankroll ?

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Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 03:43:14 PM

Quote from: Hexcoin on June 23, 2015, 05:50:13 AM

Quote from: RussianRaibow on June 23, 2015, 04:44:43 AM

The Just-Dice link given above does not show any relevant info. Moreover, no one knows the PrimeDice address holding their bankroll ?

AFAIK primedice want to keep their bankroll secret and they are not required to show proof of funds as because they dont accept investments

Can you please point me to Stunna's statement regarding this ?

I have never seen him comment about it in public . But there is no need for them to show the proof as they do not publicly accept investments, and no private business would care to show you their proof of funds. Since they have paid out 2000 BTC in the past, you can trust them to have that kind of bankroll to payout.

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