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Quote from: rugrats on August 07, 2018, 05:10:29 PM

I think its a combination of all the senses but mainly through the interpretation of such senses by the mind because otherwise how else will the mind deduce something without a reference or a baseline for comparison?

well, that is from a scientific point of view have you consider the fact that will might be something that goes beyond the brain i mean it is intertwined with consciousness in such a way you can really explain. take for example the double slit experiment at what point did you make the will to observe.

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Desire and motivation are the main components that fuel "will". It starts when you truly desire or wanted something. It's embedded in our genes, and what keeps us on going. But having no "will" at all can make you feel empty, which leads to emotional or mental distress.

Quote from: vphasitha01 on August 06, 2018, 02:53:02 AM

I want to discuss how humans Will behaves after being climbed on the top? do you think humans Will just end in there? I don't think so. Then we need to think about why humans are striving to reach the highest possible position in life with huge sacrifice throughout their life cycle, even they didn't get any satisfaction at the end.

Only people who reached the top could give you a definite answer. But being on the top, and being successful have a different meaning, IMO.

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Will comes from frustrations and failures. When one becomes determined not to lose or make the same mistake that cost them in the past. If you remove those factors, say you were born filthy rich, but much more than that super cuddled, without a care in the world, then that will will be less than a person who has had a lot of adversity.

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willingness and desire arises from thoughts arising from the senses Huh

and this is a logical thing in life, especially for those who are sensible Grin

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Quote from: vphasitha01 on August 05, 2018, 06:29:01 AM

If it's from the mind, a desire for imagination begins when I can make a will on it, something that I imagined or the moment I get the idea of what I imagined remains as I want.

I just want to know what other members thinking about the "will", how it's born and do we need to attach to the "Will"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_free_will#Neuronal_prediction_of_free_will

I'd say the question should have been: is there such a thing as free will?

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I think its a combination of all the senses but mainly through the interpretation of such senses by the mind because otherwise how else will the mind deduce something without a reference or a baseline for comparison?

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Quote from: vphasitha01 on August 06, 2018, 02:53:02 AM

Then we need to think about why humans are striving to reach the highest possible position in life with huge sacrifice throughout their life cycle, even they didn't get any satisfaction at the end.

A good meditation on this is Ecclesiast by King Solomon ("Kohelet" in Hebrew, the One gathering his sangha into a circle around him).
Together with Song of Songs (it's not just about love between man and woman, in fact) it's a poetical psychoanalitic esoteric treatise. Not just some run-of-the-mill moral fable by an aging king.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on August 05, 2018, 11:40:04 PM

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer

Schopenhauer referred to asceticism as the denial of the will to live.

I don't want to discuss Schopenhauer's philosophy and his interpretations regarding asceticism. I just want to discuss what Buddhism taught us about Will and how we should control ours Will. Controlling ours Will doesn't mean that we should avoid all forms of indulgences, but be knowing about Will and living without getting attached to the Will. Otherwise what will happen is being left in sad as an end result of if we lost the thing that we desired to get. I don't know the exact English word for peoples who "Living without attached to the Will, but knowing about all the truth about the Will".

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Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_to_power

The will to power ... is a prominent concept in the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. The will to power describes what Nietzsche may have believed to be the main driving force in humans – achievement, ambition, and the striving to reach the highest possible position in life.

The will to power concept of Friedrich Nietzsche's is another concept. That's not talking about Will, it's about how humans drive their Will to achieve the highest possible position in life. I want to discuss how humans Will behaves after being climbed on the top? do you think humans Will just end in there? I don't think so. Then we need to think about why humans are striving to reach the highest possible position in life with huge sacrifice throughout their life cycle, even they didn't get any satisfaction at the end.

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Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer

Schopenhauer referred to asceticism as the denial of the will to live.

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_to_power

The will to power ... is a prominent concept in the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. The will to power describes what Nietzsche may have believed to be the main driving force in humans – achievement, ambition, and the striving to reach the highest possible position in life.

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If it's from the eye, a desire for picture begins when I can make a will on it, something that I saw or the moment I get the idea of what I saw remains as I want.

If it's from the nose, a desire for smell begins when I can make a will on it, something that I smelled or the moment I get the idea of what I smelled to remains as I want.

If it's from the tongue, a desire for taste begins when I can make a will on it, something that I tasted or the moment I get the idea of what I tasted remains as I want.

If it's from the body, a desire for touch begins when I can make a will on it, something that I touched or the moment I get the idea of what I touched remains as I want.

If it's from the mind, a desire for imagination begins when I can make a will on it, something that I imagined or the moment I get the idea of what I imagined remains as I want.

I just want to know what other members thinking about the "will", how it's born and do we need to attach to the "Will"?

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