Topic: Where have all the low volatility slots gone??? (Read 216 times)

On which casino did you visit OP? Was it offline? But since you saw low volatility slots there, why not stick on them? Although maybe you find them inconvenient because you know, we still need to travel and experience some hassles only to play there. So, an online version would be better. But on some local casinos that I play, I still see a couple of low-volatility games.

Anyway, you can try reaching out the casino of your choice and recommend it to them but there are also casinos who likes to read threads in the forum. They might read yours here and they may consider it next time on their update. Like a high-volume slot game, there must still be a house edge on them, so they still can earn through it.

You make a good point about how slot games are changing and how unstable they are. Many new slots do tend to have bigger variance, that's true. This might be because big sums look so good. But the company should provide several options so that players can discover what they're seeking. Players who don't like taking risks and players who do like taking risks can both find games that fit their style. The people who make games should think about this range so that more people can have a better time.

Well, 10k bets is a lot... I guess there would be many bonuses along that way, but who knows how profitable those bonuses will be, in my experience, many will be under x10! Sometimes it can be really hard to hit x100... There are no guarantees when it comes to slots, what we can do is try and hope for the best!



You described my experience. I had some pretty big luck with high-volatility slots, and many times I got wrecked playing low-volatility slots. The bottom line, if we are unlucky we will lose no matter what slot we choose!

In the end, I can only say that high volatility slots are much more interesting, with many more features and bonuses we can get. That comes with the price, as I always write, slots can give a lot, but they can take even more... keep that in mind.

This won't be good for the gambling providers and the casino.

Imagine someone gamble on x slots, they claimed 1K multipliers is usually happen after 10K bets, there's should be someone who will try to gamble until it reach 10K bets, if he didn't hit the 1K multipliers, he will scream both of the providers and casino scammed him.

Agree with everything said here but one thing.
I think RTP and volatility are different metrics.

Maybe a slot game with higher RTP should be giving back more of the money it gets, but if it has a multiplier of let's say 30000x, then it wouldn't be able to support frequent wins, because that large payout would have to be funded somehow. So lower payouts like 1.2x, 5x etc would not happen that often probably.

It would be ideal if each slot would say how often each multiplier is hit on average, but speaking from experience, slots that have the highest multipliers don't have that of a steady pace for payouts.

Once the gambler becomes aware on this feature, they can easily get the info of this in each provider.
Because most casinos these days are already providing such information to their players.
But I think, most gamblers don't really look into this info, RTP and other details attached to each provider.
At first, they will be after for the aesthetic features of the game and later on, they will dig deeper about the game.

The slot and the most of the casino games which also include the feature of the card game will not easy to predict,but you have made the prediction in the right way.It will help you make the money in huge way,the gamblers should increase the betting money to the game after the money profit is huge.The slot game have the more volatility because of the number of the participants,the gamblers also able to earn more at the end.The winning in the game was based on the volatility of the game money,but the gamblers should accept the loss before he start the game.If the gamblers get winning in the slot game,he can loss of money in same slot game.

I also appreciate the allure of more frequent wins, even if they come with a lower ceiling, a steadier pace that I enjoy when playing slots. I agree with what was said about how the higher the RTP, the lower the volatility. I also prefer that because it allows for longer gameplay, and there's more entertainment and excitement in playing. As a new player back then, I was less concerned about volatility, and I didn't know about RTP before I started playing. I lacked awareness because I was more focused on graphics or animation. So, in terms of low volatility, I think each provider has games like that nowadays; it just depends on the specific game.

Yeah, these oldies don't get the attention they deserve. Not surprised you haven't heard of them but surprised some posters claim to have years of experience yet didn't know. There are crypto gamblers... and there are crypto gambler posters

The market caters to slot players, which is why "crypto slots" are only RNG slots featuring crypto buyins, but not slots using cryptographic hash functions like the examples I shared do. If developers created good slots but fixed the RNG to use cryptographic hash functions, they benefit from lower house edge (because they don't need to pay annual RNG 3rd party verifications, customised RTP (players can set volatility as high/low as they want, players would flock.

I don't know where they have gone but I know and the casinos should know this well too that the real catcher in bringing the more and more players to play slot are the huge multipliers and surely these multipliers we cannot find in those low volatility slots.I think that most slot providers now almost offer only high volatility slot which as per their description is "the chance to win often is lower compared to other slots but the chance to win big in a short amount of time is higher",that is where most slot providers are as of now.

If they could realize that this was a wrong thought, they would not have used a lot of money to play slots because, after all, slot games really need luck to win, so those who don't have luck will always lose. Even if they can win, their win won't be very big, and if they compare it with their losses, the amount of their win will still be smaller, so they don't have a big chance of getting the big win. Normally, the situation has changed, and the difficulties we face are also getting bigger because, with technological developments in the gambling business, casinos have also made changes. And that's what makes many gamblers unable to win easily. Moreover, now many slot providers also have lots of slot games ready to attract the interest of gamblers, so competition from each casino will be even more difficult. A wise gambler will not fall into that situation and can still use slot games in his spare time and not chase wins.

I feel the same way as you, where I very rarely get big wins. Just getting a small win makes me happy because that's what I can get right now so if I experience defeat more often, I will accept it too. But with my limitations and self-control, I can avoid losing a lot. Also, I don't lose a lot of money playing slots because this slot game is very tempting and makes me want to keep playing, especially if there is a bonus feature I can buy to increase my chances of winning. But the opportunity from the Bonus feature also can't guarantee that I can get a big win, so I limit the amount of money by just doing normal spins to spend my free time.

That's true. The reason behind it is for a higher chance of profits for their business and it's always been against the players. Sure, slots give multiwins that are hard to explain. It could go to thousands of multipliers but many times it will take always your whole balance and nothing will come out. Slots are for those who have deep pockets unless you are lucky enough to hit it at your first 10-20 bets which happens very rarely.
In online slots, they put the enhanced RTP for a reason. Many slot players are upset because of how rare a winning chance could happen and so they offer them that new feature. I am not really a fan of this game because like I said, those are for players who have deep wallets, and just like you I don't want that too. I take low multipliers as long as I can play longer but I do want a chance for high multipliers too which is why I like playing Keno because it has both. Also, with original games like it, I can bet small amounts. This is a good option for those who are targeting the wagering amount to increase their bonuses weekly and monthly.

I agree, it doesn't matter anyway on what you choose as for the volatility because it doesn't feel like that there's an actual difference at all.

This is so me, I just like to think of how I am going to have fun with the slots and that's technically what you've said as the few factors on how I choose to have fun with based on the design and some other little factors.

If you want volatility you play a hacksaw slot. high risk high reward. If you want low volatility go play big bass bonanza from pragmatic. All slots, online at least, show the RTP and IMO the bigger the RTP to lower the volatility.

You can go to stake.com and play the enhanced RTP games as well and lower the volatility.

It's interesting that some of the oldest and logrdt running casinos in crypto actually have some of the most technologically advanced and versatile slots. To be honest I wasn't even aware. This seems like a good selling point to experienced gamblers and it makes me wonder why it's not promoted more.

I've mostly been playing on Stake and over there when playing slots I actually have a preference for the so called stake original slots, which are made by the casino and not any specific third party provider. These had good RTP and also were provably fair.
I was hoping we would also see more games like these but with lower volatility.
But the bigger and most advertised casinos don't seem to care that much. Probably the profit in higher volatility stocks is better in the long term so if a casino gets big it tends to ignore them?

demand is changing among gamblers, so more then likely, they also did their homework on how to exhaust their max earnings from this particular game. they won't stick forever to a particular setting if they know they are at a disadvantage. the major aim of these casinos is to always gain more profits as much as possible.

because if the providers changed such feature, it means, they have their basis why they alter their settings. it is of course always in their favour, not the player's end. and if the gamblers are still buying it, then they don't have to worry about changing it back to where it was. they know their stats, otherwise, they will easily be bankrupt if they are not too careful with their offered features to the gamblers. because if one gambler found its loophole, he can easily exhaust their vault and that is what they don't like to happen.

I think slot machines with low or high volatility will be equally profitable because the game providers have created algorithms that favor them. Maybe because market demand (gamblers) prefer slot machines with high volatility, so more and more slot machines have a maximum win of over 10,000x. Maybe no limit is the one who likes games with high volatility the most, then pragmatics starts to follow suit

Even though it is very difficult to win, slots with high volatility seem to be a favorite lately. Although to be honest I prefer slots with low volatility because they are easy to win, I agree with what you say, nowadays it is very difficult to find slot machines with low volatility, especially the newest slot machines.

You mentioned one of the reasons that makes sense about this problem, now people come with thoughts and beliefs about how easy it is to get a win on slot games like in the old days when slots were new which I also felt that in the past getting a win on this game was not as difficult as it is now, without realizing that now everything has changed, casinos increase the difficulty of winning for a bigger profit, it happens because maybe one of the reasons is like you said that now there are so many other slot providers or that means competition from other competitors is getting tougher which obviously will make a reduction in the audience who play which makes casino revenue increasingly according to.

Honestly, lately I also feel that getting even a small win is very difficult from slot games. I think very few people will know about the changes that occur in the type of slot game, all they know and they want is nothing more than to continue gambling, not caring about other things especially with problems like this. It seems that only really good luck can bring us to victory if there is indeed a change in this type of game, but however it is better that we should not be too serious in gambling, because even though victory is not too difficult as in the past, if we overdo it, then of course the number of defeats will still dominate.

Most of the time, people are getting adds by (Highest RTP).

So, that's why the reason why people more often discuss about (RTP) rather than Volatility. IMO, perhaps you can looking on casino who provided a lot provider slot and looking on the bottom because most of casino will always put newest slot on the top.

Feel free to tried these.

There are still some out there, and IIRC Crypto.Games have (had?) one. There are also some of these on my local casinos though they are usually not the ones being played by the gamblers because they, well, give out lesser winnings compared to traditional slots. Low-volatility slots may give you consistent winnings, but one single lose streak and you'll find your winnings down the drain, maybe even lose it all.

I know this isn't really what you're asking for but I'd like to offer a post with an actual picking instead of most posters above.

Have you ever played crypto-based slots like the ones at Crypto.Games and Bitvest? The former has several settings for low to high volatility -- throw in the low house edge and you'll get as many 1.1x or 2x as you want. Bitvest has the same. Six default settings (lowest volatility is 20x or so on every combination) but also the ability to set your own payout. Pretty easy to set 5x settings to often, sacrificing rarer 500x.


I'm actually waiting for a slots maker to do something similar -- not that it'd entice me much.

Currently, slots are one of the many types of gambling that have reached their peak considering that this is a gambling game that is quite popular and has many fans. When compared to when it first appeared, the volatility of this game is very different. Currently the chances of winning are very small. And to get just one win, I have to experience several defeats first. This is a type of chance gambling. This is the easiest type of gambling to play, because remembering that in playing this gambling, we are not really required to have tricks, strategies and skills, we are only required to have good self-control and understand a little about the game involved. . This is the easiest game to play, but difficult to win.

But it cannot be denied that this type of gambling was deliberately created and designed in such a way as to provide large profits for the casino. And from several articles that I read, it actually states that "the biggest profits obtained by casinos are mostly generated from slot games." Slots have made a huge contribution to casinos.

This is a theory that sounds likely to me in a way.
On one hand more and more people are taking their gambling activities online. But on the other hand, the whole promotion of gambling games really hasn't done much to show players what's supposed to happen and what the features are when they are playing slots.

So these new gamblers don't really seem to care that much.
It has also been my experience that newer online gamblers care more about graphics other than stats and important metrics such as RTP and house edge. Might sound counter intuitive, but I guess the wave of streamer promotion might have played a role in this.

It seems not, because slots with high volatility will have much higher betting amounts too and of course in these games can cost more money.
In contrast to low volatility slots which have lower bets even though the winnings may be much bigger or the chance of getting jackpot will be greater at high volatility.
But honestly I agree with you that whether in high or low volatility it will be the same where destruction is the last thing you will feel.

This happens because the slot game is game of luck and in this game luck is the main factor in winning.
What is different is that as I said before, high volatility has much larger winning number because the bet amount is not low and also the opportunity to win is very difficult.
I try and understand that high volatility games are very difficult to win, on average, those who win are gamblers with quite large finances.
But what is currently quite popular are slot games which can provide large multipliers with low bet amounts.
Some gamblers choose games like this because they can play longer.

Honestly speaking, based on my observation as a slot player for a long, volatility isn't a big deal now to most gamblers. Generally, if we do some interviews with some slot players out there, surely they will say that there's not much difference now between low and high-volatility slots as in the end, they will still experience being wrecked.

Sometimes, some gamblers are lucky at low volatility then unfortunate at high volatility slots, and vice-versa. Not sure about how volatility works in physical casinos but at least in online casinos, players pick slots now based on design and how attractive the huge multiplier is in the banner of that said game.

Maybe now the situation is different from before, where there is not much competition between casinos and not many slot game providers added to casinos. The large number of slot providers in the casino also determines volatility or other factors. But I don't understand and I'm also not looking for slot games with a certain volatility.

But if people can't win their big wins, it's because they didn't have their luck, making them curious to try again. Of course, in slot games, we should not chase after winning because it will be difficult and there is a possibility that we will experience a lot of losses.

I don't know if I remember correctly, maybe I have a wrong perception of how things used to be, but at least I think it used to be easier to find slots with lower volatility.

First things first, I like low volatility slots because even though they have a lower roof of winnings, you have chances to be winning more often. I understand that many people want to play slots thinking that they might hit the highest winnings... But that's not everyone.

And my experience has been that those seeking lower volatility in their slot runs, have a hard time finding such games in online casinos these days. Especially since the games are made by certain providers who for some reason only focus on extremely high volatility.

For comparison, I recently went to a casino to see how it would be, and I was amazed that they had some of the older slot machine games (think 2010s) and the options on volatility were great.
I found slots with a max win of 150x and on that machine o would frequently hit the 5x too. Winning often in slots is something I really like but sadly with high volatility won't allow such frequent wins.

I'm not sure why providers are doing this lately, perhaps high volatility is mkre profitable to them? Either way... Don't you also think there should be more options to the player in therms of volatility?