Topic: Where Markets are Still Free (Read 221 times)

That was ICOs claim to fame.

ICOs offered accredited investor opportunities to low income bracket demographics.

The SEC stepped in and said sorry. You must earn $100,000 per year minimum to qualify for minimum ICO investor status. To prevent the poor from being "taken advantage of" and "robbed".

I have a feeling fundamental principles of this scenario will play out in other attempts at crypto VC.

I think bitcoin is already one of the biggest digital assets for many years. The market cap of bitcoin is extremely high when we compare to other digital assets. The number of bitcoin users increases slightly every year and this can be considered as a good sight not just for bitcoin itself but also to crypto lovers. And its true that bitcoin can be bought, sold and invested by any individuals no matter how much money you have

From my knowledge, more miners do not mean that bitcoin will be safer or more secure. Development is still needed over years so that bitcoin can enhance its technologies. There have been many upgraded recently and they all make bitcoin stronger day by day. And most important, the decrease in transaction fees is what we all want

Markets are not free anywhere, sorry. In every country in the world a lot of different regulations rules

No market is free.The gold market has been manipulated for years by the US federal reserve banks.
Bitcoin has been manipulated by the crypto whales in the past.
Government regulations have to prevent market manipulations,but they are failing.All they do is just create entry barriers and prevent new players to enter the markets and increase the competition and market liquidity.
This post seems like a promotion of this Bitcoin Enhanced hedge fund.I've never heard about this fund and i'm suspicious to such "digital hedge funds".

But that's no longer the case

At least, in important jurisdictions (US, EU, Japan, China, etc) cryptocurrency markets are already regulated, i.e. there is a governing body that monitors and controls these markets. On the other hand, where there are completely unregulated markets (read, where Bitcoin is not considered an asset or property), this leads to scams and fraud. I'm not sure if any sane person would vote for that as it severely damages Bitcoin

For all the people asking about the context :
By free the writer wants to convey that the market is not governed by any centralized body , it is more or so decentralized like Bitcoins.
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I do think even though Gold and Bitcoins , these assets are more or so non centralized they do have the scope for being used by the whales and the institutions in a way that it will affect the small Investors.

Most whales do try to send money from one wallet to another to generate whale alerts , which makes the people buy a lot then they sell off when the price is right .

But ! Contrary to this we have seen more or so a certain price of Bitcoins which have been non-volatile considering the past , which means that we have achieved a stability (or it might even be the calm before the storm ).

The fact that gold is indispensable part of the society does guarantee it's relatively stable overall value over the years , it's for sure an amazing investment , plus you don't loose much even if the market is down.

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I do think what I would like in a free market would be complete elemination of the middle man , I cannot stress this enough but this dominance needs to end ! We should have courses to teach the farmers and small traders about Bitcoins and online commodity markets , which could be very beneficial for them . People needs to learn , the internet is a powerful tool if used correctly.

But what is meant by a free market here?

As in free from what exactly? If it is about being free from regulation, well, that may not necessarily be a good thing (though opinions vary). And the gold market is heavily regulated, just in case, very much like any other traditional market out there. If it is about being free from manipulation by the deep pockets, then Bitcoin has never been free from that. Moreover, it has become famous for being extremely vulnerable to the whimsy of big players. So what is free about Bitcoin as long as markets for it are concerned? 

This free market will remain free even if the huge traditional investors will start jumping ship.

But it would indeed be best if we have already accumulated a nice amount before they arrive. They won't arrive with thousands or even hundreds of thousands; they will probably arrive with hundreds of millions or even hundreds of billions. And this flow of investment will certainly make an affordable 1BTC a thing of the past.

It's not that about the limits but it's about the advantage that small investors have like me for this moment. Before those huge entities and investors get in, we have it already and that's an advantage because the value shall rise if many of those gets in.

It could be as I'm not monitoring the markets of gold most of the time and there are around 197,576 tonnes of gold that has been mined. I don't know how much is there remaining.

We can speculate that they're already here but only a few signs show that some of them are. Once huge names have been reported that got in already, we'll see everybody, small, average and big investors and institutions to rush.

I think Gold has been taken advantage by manipulators already as it has been in the market for many years now. As compare to bitcoin which is still very young and everyone can join despite the price getting almost on the 5 digits.


I'm under the impression that there are a lot of institutional money already in the bitcoin market. I believed in started in 2017 prior to the bull run with CME and CBoE open their bitcoin future trading and then we all know that others have follow. And then we have investors with deep pockets hiring hedge fund managers to trade for them. And that's why we have seen banks offering this services as well. But there are still leg room for us average Joe to invest while we can. It doesn't mean buy 1 whole bitcoin, but slowly we can accumulate small portions.

For those early bitcoin adopters, they have accessed and has taken the advantage before big investors and institutional money came and keeps flowing. It really depends on how you look at small investors. Maybe you can just stack sats and keep on accumulating overtime and reach that 1 BTC goal. $1 trillion in 5 years is small estimate, I would say it can grow more than that if big and small investors starts to really pour money in crypto market. Just imagine as little as 10% of the whole population will suddenly jump and invest on bitcoin, it could go on numbers beyond our dreams.

I dont think bitcoin is within the limits of small investors, maybe they can access a small part of the market though open to all investors, but institutions are gaining big access. Size of over $150 billion is big enough and with prospect of $1 trillion in next 5 years, it could be one of the biggest digital asset class. I want to believe the information on its security is true and the security is getting better with more miners.

As said by the article, bitcoin and gold are free markets. And this should be taken as an advantage by small investors like me and you. Before the giant financing companies gets to bitcoin, we have it.

They'll create such a boost to the market if ever they start announcing their interest and venture to bitcoin. While they are not yet here - most of them or probably they were already here but chose not to announce, get some bitcoins and hold it as early as today.

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