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July 25, 2013, 09:34:35 PM
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There isn't another city on the earth where more people piss in the street than my home town of San Francisco.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Streets-of-San-Francisco-drenched-in-urine-4658210.php

On the up side: No tinea / athlete's foot.

On the down side: Urine on the street.

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By Vivian Ho

July 11, 2013

It's a whiff as familiar to San Francisco as marijuana in a park on a nice day.

From the UN Plaza to the Mission District, Market Street to Polk, the Tenderloin to the Haight, San Franciscans are forced to navigate the nose-wrinkling, dry-heaving olfactory land mines of urine-splattered sidewalks on a daily basis.

The Board of Supervisors passed legislation banning public urination in 2002, but fresh yellow puddles on the pavement say the culprits prefer to answer the law of nature over the law of the city.

It's up to the police to enforce the public urination ban, which is punishable with a citation ranging anywhere from $50 to $500.

But quality-of-life infractions like public urination require that police officers see the crime happening in order to issue a citation, said police spokesman Sgt. Dennis Toomer - a serious limitation when it comes to enforcement.

Video won't cut it, nor will eyewitness complaints. Toomer said he doesn't know how many citations police issue a year.

"We know it's a problem and we're out there - our foot beats and our mobile patrol units - we're out there trying to enforce these kinds of violations," he said. "When we do spot something, we take action on it, but we have limitations. We're trying our best."

The constant acrid stench all over the city says the citations aren't much of a deterrent. Between Jan. 1 and June 30 of this year, the Department of Public Works received 5,636 requests for steam-cleaning sidewalk service, the majority of which were for human waste, said spokeswoman Rachel Gordon.

Although care of sidewalks falls to property owners, the Department of Public Works will provide steam cleanings when requested by private property owners because public urination and defecation is a public health issue, Gordon said.


Paul Chinn, The Chronicle

Stephen Lee from the Department of Public Works sprays a disinfectant before steam cleaning a sidewalk on Jessie Street near Sixth Street in S.F., an area that produces the most requests for sidewalk cleaning.
More than 3,000 of the requests over the past six months were concentrated in the Tenderloin and South of Market neighborhoods, with the Mission District following with 1,251 requests and 513 requests coming out of the northern neighborhoods of Chinatown, North Beach and the Marina.

Gordon said anyone with a problem sidewalk should call 311, and the department will send workers out within 48 hours.

As most things go in San Francisco, the 2002 ban on public urination didn't go through without a fight. A big issue with the ban was that there weren't enough public restrooms in the city.

But others also argued that some people will continue to urinate outside, no matter what's available. "We know it's a stinky problem for the city," Gordon said. "No one likes it. It's not good for the residents, the tourists or the people who work here. Unfortunately, it's a part of urban living that people will relieve themselves in less than ideal places."

What's not working
Issue: Sidewalks all over San Francisco reek because people urinate on them.

What's been done: The Board of Supervisors passed a law banning public urination in 2002, but officers can only issue citations for the offense if they catch the person in the act. As for cleaning, private property owners are responsible for the sidewalks in front of their buildings, but the Department of Public Works offers steam cleaning upon request.

Who's responsible: Police Chief Greg Suhr - (415) 553-1551, [email protected]

Chronicle Watch
If you know of something that needs to be improved, the Chronicle Watch team wants to hear from you. E-mail your issue to chroniclewatch@ sfchronicle.com, or reach us on Twitter at@sfchronwatch and facebook.com/ sfchronwatch.

Vivian Ho writes for Chronicle Watch, a weekly feature that investigates stubborn problems. E-mail: [email protected], [email protected] Twitter: @VivianHo, @SFChronWatch
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July 24, 2013, 11:18:31 AM
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OP, here's a condo that we were thinking about buying in Kamala. It's funny, I met more Americans while walking down Rim Had than Thai people and everything is in English. lol

http://www.siamrealestate.com/detail/phuket/apartment-condo/foreign-freehold/modern-studio-studio-penthouse-condominiums-kamala/#.Ue_uZ8u9KSM
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July 24, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
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in ecuador every man pisses on street because it rains 2 times a day
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July 24, 2013, 10:44:01 AM
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There isn't another city on the earth where more people piss in the street than my home town of San Francisco.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Streets-of-San-Francisco-drenched-in-urine-4658210.php

On the up side: No tinea / athlete's foot.

On the down side: Urine on the street.

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Oh, sorry. I forget that not everybody has a membership to the San Francisco Chronicle. It's boring really. It just goes on about even after the law was passed in 2002 banning public urination that people still piss everywhere because businesses don't let people use their restrooms. I have to admit that I was walking downtown on Market Street and couldn't find anywhere that would let me use the restroom and I pissed in a hidden doorway around the corner from the old Navy store. lol

It's a brilliant thing to make something illegal, and yet provide no way to help people not break the law. For instance, make it illegal to take a piss on the street, yet make no public toilets were people can get relieved of said fluids. The solution is to piss wherever you can, the chance of actually getting ticketed for it is very low, and there's a limit to how long a man can hold his pee in his bladder. But it is a truth that restaurants and bars will not let you use their bathroom in San-Francisco? In that case, it's just pure evil.

Well it's really more complex than that but yeah that's the gist of it. There are many homeless people in San Francisco. I've heard that between the homeless and the young runaways/hippie types in SF there is one person living outdoors for every 10,000 living indoors. I don't know if that's a good number but it seems about right. Businesses don't want to let vagrants use the restrooms because they will take a bath in them so they make a policy that no one can use them. The problem is worse downtown at night. When the businesses are all closed the homeless take over every doorway and alcove to sleep. They piss and shit all over the city streets at night and the street cleaners and pressure washing businesses come by and wash it all during the day. There are public toilet boxes that you can use for a quarter but homeless and vagrants don't have a quarter. They are always filthy and broken so no one uses them anyway. It's funny because when you look at the street drains they all have a little crab logo and say "drains to bay" to keep people from dumping toxins in the street drain. But the city workers flush human waste into that drain all the time. lol
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July 24, 2013, 10:28:39 AM
#70
There isn't another city on the earth where more people piss in the street than my home town of San Francisco.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Streets-of-San-Francisco-drenched-in-urine-4658210.php

On the up side: No tinea / athlete's foot.

On the down side: Urine on the street.

(Note: couldn't read article without subscription)

Oh, sorry. I forget that not everybody has a membership to the San Francisco Chronicle. It's boring really. It just goes on about even after the law was passed in 2002 banning public urination that people still piss everywhere because businesses don't let people use their restrooms. I have to admit that I was walking downtown on Market Street and couldn't find anywhere that would let me use the restroom and I pissed in a hidden doorway around the corner from the old Navy store. lol

It's a brilliant thing to make something illegal, and yet provide no way to help people not break the law. For instance, make it illegal to take a piss on the street, yet make no public toilets were people can get relieved of said fluids. The solution is to piss wherever you can, the chance of actually getting ticketed for it is very low, and there's a limit to how long a man can hold his pee in his bladder. But it is a truth that restaurants and bars will not let you use their bathroom in San-Francisco? In that case, it's just pure evil.
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July 24, 2013, 10:20:23 AM
#69
There isn't another city on the earth where more people piss in the street than my home town of San Francisco.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Streets-of-San-Francisco-drenched-in-urine-4658210.php

On the up side: No tinea / athlete's foot.

On the down side: Urine on the street.

(Note: couldn't read article without subscription)

Oh, sorry. I forget that not everybody has a membership to the San Francisco Chronicle. It's boring really. It just goes on about even after the law was passed in 2002 banning public urination that people still piss everywhere because businesses don't let people use their restrooms. I have to admit that I was walking downtown on Market Street and couldn't find anywhere that would let me use the restroom and I pissed in a hidden doorway around the corner from the old Navy store. lol
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July 24, 2013, 06:18:38 AM
#68
I plan to move to Mars when they let me... where things are normal...
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July 24, 2013, 01:46:05 AM
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thailand is ok if you dont mind filth.

and i refer to the garbage, rotting food, rats, cockroaches, men pissing EVERYwhere, absolute mediocrity, dodgy electricity, corruption EVERYwhere, pollution ALL year round(worse during slash n burn season).

i could go on for days, ive spent more than enough years there to know for certain, its a shit hole filled with some of the worst examples of humanity to be found.

although the whores(filth) do seem to keep the whore-mongers blinded to most of the real filth.

i am currently doing the same as you except to escape this cess-pit and get back to some semblance of civilisation.

anywhere you think of needs to be really, really looked into carefully.

Unless you're really loaded with cash, in which case you should be able to make it work wherever you may be.

You know there are other cities in Thailand.  Bangkok isn't the only one.  Also, everything you stated applies to New York, Paris, London, etc.

There isn't another city on the earth where more people piss in the street than my home town of San Francisco.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Streets-of-San-Francisco-drenched-in-urine-4658210.php
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July 23, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
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I've been seriously considering Thailand myself.  Anyone from there know what it's like for an ex-pat?  I've done some research here and there, it's apparently very inexpensive to live there.  Perhaps a freelancer could make a very nice living.
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July 23, 2013, 08:22:32 PM
#65
Africa.
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July 23, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
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Not sure if someone said this, but go to Mexico. You could make it work...
There is a great guide on HackBB Wiki, sure it is for fleeing criminals, but it can be applied to anyone.
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July 23, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
#63
If you're moving to Spain I would recommend idealista.com
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June 07, 2013, 12:11:34 PM
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What is the best place you recommend to live, thats cheap, I've been looking at spain, ghana and greece, any others? And can someone help me find a reputable realtor?  my price is between 1k-19k in the country (1acre+) Thx

Chile, Paraguay ?
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June 07, 2013, 10:43:49 AM
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Back to the op, I've been to Ghana and yes, there are LOTS of Chinese investments there. Especially in Gold mining. The local village kids in Southern Ghana would yell out 'chino' when I'd drive by. They all assumed I was Chinese. LOL! Smiley  If you don't mind getting malaria a few times a year and having no AC (electrical system there can't handle the load) then go for it. I'd recommend Central America or Thailand as better alternatives from a 'comforts' point of view.

I told you about that gold mining show on discovery, there aint no way I would go there.
Why's that. I'm a bit too lazy to dig through posts. Tongue
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June 07, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
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Back to the op, I've been to Ghana and yes, there are LOTS of Chinese investments there. Especially in Gold mining. The local village kids in Southern Ghana would yell out 'chino' when I'd drive by. They all assumed I was Chinese. LOL! Smiley  If you don't mind getting malaria a few times a year and having no AC (electrical system there can't handle the load) then go for it. I'd recommend Central America or Thailand as better alternatives from a 'comforts' point of view.
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June 07, 2013, 09:04:27 AM
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Move to thailand.

Cheap food
Cheap living
Cheap massage
Cheap massage with happy ending.

etc
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June 07, 2013, 08:40:18 AM
#58
Ecuador - if you can handle not being able to own guns.

Legally, that is...
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June 07, 2013, 12:25:16 AM
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Ecuador - if you can handle not being able to own guns.
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June 06, 2013, 01:30:24 PM
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Maybe you can make electricity from huge hamster wheels connected to a generator. Simply catch a few polar bears and train 'em to run there. See? Free electricity!

Only problem is: Polar Bears live in Arctic.
Penguins then?
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June 06, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
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Maybe you can make electricity from huge hamster wheels connected to a generator. Simply catch a few polar bears and train 'em to run there. See? Free electricity!

Only problem is: Polar Bears live in Arctic.
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June 06, 2013, 01:05:55 PM
#54
Antarctica. Silence, snow, no disturbance, what else would anyone want... Right?

All the cold would be good for cooling your mining rigs, so you can run your miners faster and make more money!

But getting electricity might cause some problems Wink
Maybe you can make electricity from huge hamster wheels connected to a generator. Simply catch a few polar bears and train 'em to run there. See? Free electricity!
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June 06, 2013, 12:36:23 PM
#53
Antarctica. Silence, snow, no disturbance, what else would anyone want... Right?

All the cold would be good for cooling your mining rigs, so you can run your miners faster and make more money!

But getting electricity might cause some problems Wink
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June 06, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
#52
Antarctica. Silence, snow, no disturbance, what else would anyone want... Right?

All the cold would be good for cooling your mining rigs, so you can run your miners faster and make more money!
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June 05, 2013, 08:03:18 PM
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Antarctica. Silence, snow, no disturbance, what else would anyone want... Right?
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May 29, 2013, 02:02:34 AM
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Colorado Smiley
Don't think is above 65-70 F (18-21  C) In winter  Roll Eyes
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Colorado Smiley
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May 28, 2013, 08:09:51 PM
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Consider moving to China, OP, we have the fastest growing bitcoin community in the world.
How much per acre?

Depends on where you want to live. If you want to live in somewhere that actually has a bitcoin community, like Beijing or Shanghai, probably six or seven figures (USD) per acre. If you don't mind living on farmland in bumfuck nowhere, you could probably get some land for dirt cheap, low thousands per acre. However, the government owns all land here, and you don't "buy" property, you just lease it from the government (70 years is the standard term, I believe.).

Dirt cheap areas i want

If you are not thinking about roaming the land, and China is a hot candidate, I would say somewhere along the coast in the Taiwan area. Close to Taiwan, Hong Kong and Japan. Should be pretty ideal when it comes to purchasing hardware and think air quality might be decent.
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May 28, 2013, 07:53:02 PM
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Dirt cheap areas i want

If you're serious, and you decide to move to China, please let me know. I also offer this service: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/relocation-come-to-the-fastest-growing-bitcoin-hotspot-in-the-world-china-218369

If you come here I will help you find real estate agents and a lawyer with experience in helping a foreigner to purchase land here.
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May 28, 2013, 06:52:55 PM
#46
Consider moving to China, OP, we have the fastest growing bitcoin community in the world.
How much per acre?

Depends on where you want to live. If you want to live in somewhere that actually has a bitcoin community, like Beijing or Shanghai, probably six or seven figures (USD) per acre. If you don't mind living on farmland in bumfuck nowhere, you could probably get some land for dirt cheap, low thousands per acre. However, the government owns all land here, and you don't "buy" property, you just lease it from the government (70 years is the standard term, I believe.).

Dirt cheap areas i want
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May 28, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
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Spanish economy is fucked
Greek economy is fucked


if you are freelancer working using internet - move here, work from home Tongue
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May 28, 2013, 06:36:23 PM
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Belize is nice, but finding good properties over the internet is a little challenging. Much better to spend some time there poking around and find them yourself.
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May 28, 2013, 06:31:16 PM
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Consider moving to China, OP, we have the fastest growing bitcoin community in the world.
How much per acre?

Depends on where you want to live. If you want to live in somewhere that actually has a bitcoin community, like Beijing or Shanghai, probably six or seven figures (USD) per acre. If you don't mind living on farmland in bumfuck nowhere, you could probably get some land for dirt cheap, low thousands per acre. However, the government owns all land here, and you don't "buy" property, you just lease it from the government (70 years is the standard term, I believe.).
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May 28, 2013, 02:10:10 PM
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Consider moving to China, OP, we have the fastest growing bitcoin community in the world.
How much per acre?
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Consider moving to China, OP, we have the fastest growing bitcoin community in the world.
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May 27, 2013, 10:57:41 PM
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the usa cost to much to live in, im in michigan

I wasn't talking to you there, I was talking to uvwvj who seems to think the discovery channel has all the answers.

To the OP this time. If you do come to Europe to live, don't bitch about the extortionate petrol (gas) prices. Here it is probably 5x as much to fill your tank. Simple economics. Europeans don't invade defenseless nations on false pretenses so we can rape them of their natural oil. No, we just buy it from them at market prices. Sounds crazy to people from "the land of the free" I know, but that is how things roll in mainland Europe. Mainland Europe excludes the UK. They are not main anything. 2 peas from the same pod. Fucking leaches on this earth.

You will be welcomed in mainland Europe if you don't swagger like dubya and come pre-prepared with a superiority complex. We don't like that because Europe is the real land of the free. Come see for yourself.

No, the exorbitant tax prices are due to the extremely high tax pressure in Europe. Like 60% of the gas price is tax paid by you. It's a socialistic shithole.

Gas tax is regressive too.
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May 27, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
#39
decided dominican republic
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May 27, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
#38

If you have to live in Italy then Cagliari on the island of Sardinia. Near the nude beach of course.
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May 27, 2013, 11:05:47 AM
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the usa cost to much to live in, im in michigan

I wasn't talking to you there, I was talking to uvwvj who seems to think the discovery channel has all the answers.

To the OP this time. If you do come to Europe to live, don't bitch about the extortionate petrol (gas) prices. Here it is probably 5x as much to fill your tank. Simple economics. Europeans don't invade defenseless nations on false pretenses so we can rape them of their natural oil. No, we just buy it from them at market prices. Sounds crazy to people from "the land of the free" I know, but that is how things roll in mainland Europe. Mainland Europe excludes the UK. They are not main anything. 2 peas from the same pod. Fucking leaches on this earth.

You will be welcomed in mainland Europe if you don't swagger like dubya and come pre-prepared with a superiority complex. We don't like that because Europe is the real land of the free. Come see for yourself.

No, the exorbitant tax prices are due to the extremely high tax pressure in Europe. Like 60% of the gas price is tax paid by you. It's a socialistic shithole.
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May 27, 2013, 01:03:25 AM
#35
Thailand looks like its winning!

(I vote Thailand!)
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May 26, 2013, 10:00:20 PM
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Canada, China, Japan or Germany methinks.

Canada is beautiful and piggybacks off of the U.S. military
China is going to be the next 1950's U.S.
Japan has Nintendo/Pokemon/attractive girls
Germany has Berlin.
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May 26, 2013, 08:39:22 AM
#33
Thailand good Tongue
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May 26, 2013, 08:32:45 AM
#32
Go live in Spain
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May 24, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
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If your male I suggest Thailand near Pattaya Beach. You could end up broke there quick too but you smile a lot and the memories will last a lifetime. Just take a few bottles of vitamin E with you. It was hard to find when I was there. Wink

oranges have vitamin e right?  Grin

Not nearly enough for Thailand!   Wink

Edit: here's some homework for you: http://stayinginthailand.com/category/dating/page/2
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May 24, 2013, 05:38:12 PM
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If your male I suggest Thailand near Pattaya Beach. You could end up broke there quick too but you smile a lot and the memories will last a lifetime. Just take a few bottles of vitamin E with you. It was hard to find when I was there. Wink

oranges have vitamin e right?  Grin
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May 24, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
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If your male I suggest Thailand near Pattaya Beach. You could end up broke there quick too but you smile a lot and the memories will last a lifetime. Just take a few bottles of vitamin E with you. It was hard to find when I was there. Wink
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May 24, 2013, 04:20:22 PM
#28
You also got countries of the former eastern block, I've heard that Ukraina has very cheap electricity.

Also there is the countries between Greece and Austria
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May 20, 2013, 09:44:40 PM
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South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.


Thailand is still very cheap if you're willing to live away from the bigger cities. Minor problem is that farangs can't own the land, but there's ways to deal with this.
Cambodia, Laos and probably some other countries around are even cheaper.
30 year lease or "own" a company that owns the property. Usually better off renting imo.
Unless you're 70 and never plan to sell the property I'd def get the company.
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May 20, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
#26
Northern India.
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May 20, 2013, 09:36:53 PM
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how much per acre and any links to realtors?
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Sorry, I don't know, I think you can get them from internet.
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May 20, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
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South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.


You miss Vietnam
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May 20, 2013, 06:09:55 PM
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lol  but I wanna be in safe places too nothing like iran or iraq... low kidnapping rates (dont say mexico)
South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.


FNG
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May 20, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
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South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.


Thailand is still very cheap if you're willing to live away from the bigger cities. Minor problem is that farangs can't own the land, but there's ways to deal with this.
Cambodia, Laos and probably some other countries around are even cheaper.
30 year lease or "own" a company that owns the property. Usually better off renting imo.
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May 20, 2013, 12:44:25 PM
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South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.



Yeah but you can still rent at pretty good rates in Malaysia. Not in Singapore though.
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South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.


Thailand is still very cheap if you're willing to live away from the bigger cities. Minor problem is that farangs can't own the land, but there's ways to deal with this.
Cambodia, Laos and probably some other countries around are even cheaper.
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May 20, 2013, 09:24:02 AM
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South East Asia, you can live emperor

LOL. You mean Asia - the south east Asia countries like Singapore and Malaysia is getting increasingly expensive to live in. A small (<2000 sq. ft) landed property in Penang, Malaysia for example would cost you upwards of $300k... Singapore is even worse in this regard.

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May 20, 2013, 09:18:29 AM
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how much per acre and any links to realtors?
South East Asia, you can live emperor
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May 20, 2013, 09:17:40 AM
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South East Asia, you can live emperor
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May 19, 2013, 08:10:11 PM
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I wanna go to cali, but cost... If you find any places for under 1-2k per acre let me know Smiley
Please not the ghetto  Roll Eyes And wanna be in a warm place (above 65-70 F In winter)
Have you looked into buying some land in Detroit? There are some blocks which are totally deserted you might be able to get an acre for that price  Grin

San Diego, they have great weather, but it might be out of your price range.
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May 19, 2013, 08:06:24 PM
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Please not the ghetto  Roll Eyes And wanna be in a warm place (above 65-70 F In winter)
Have you looked into buying some land in Detroit? There are some blocks which are totally deserted you might be able to get an acre for that price  Grin

San Diego, they have great weather, but it might be out of your price range.
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May 19, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
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Please not the ghetto  Roll Eyes And wanna be in a warm place (above 65-70 F In winter)
Have you looked into buying some land in Detroit? There are some blocks which are totally deserted you might be able to get an acre for that price  Grin
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May 19, 2013, 07:24:19 PM
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Have you looked into buying some land in Detroit? There are some blocks which are totally deserted you might be able to get an acre for that price  Grin
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May 19, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
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I wanna be in the jungle or the woods or the plains...
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May 19, 2013, 07:09:13 PM
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Mainland Europe excludes the UK. They are not main anything. 2 peas from the same pod. Fucking leaches on this earth.

You will be welcomed in mainland Europe if you don't swagger like dubya and come pre-prepared with a superiority complex. We don't like that because Europe is the real land of the free. Come see for yourself.

I assume you're not British or American then?

Your assumption is incorrect. I'm British.
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May 19, 2013, 06:40:45 PM
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Ghana?? Are you joking?

If you're a freak who loves internet and civilization, and doing just normal european/USA activities... you have nothing to do there, unless you like to live in the "jungle". This is not just topic, I was living for some years in Africa so I know a little Tongue

Spain is a really good place to live, the problem is that now the economy is fucked and the prices of houses and terrains are still too high.

Maybe Thailand is a good option for you, it's secure, cheap, nice weather Wink
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May 19, 2013, 06:23:57 PM
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Mainland Europe excludes the UK. They are not main anything. 2 peas from the same pod. Fucking leaches on this earth.

You will be welcomed in mainland Europe if you don't swagger like dubya and come pre-prepared with a superiority complex. We don't like that because Europe is the real land of the free. Come see for yourself.

I assume you're not British or American then?
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May 19, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
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the usa cost to much to live in, im in michigan

I wasn't talking to you there, I was talking to uvwvj who seems to think the discovery channel has all the answers.

To the OP this time. If you do come to Europe to live, don't bitch about the extortionate petrol (gas) prices. Here it is probably 5x as much to fill your tank. Simple economics. Europeans don't invade defenseless nations on false pretenses so we can rape them of their natural oil. No, we just buy it from them at market prices. Sounds crazy to people from "the land of the free" I know, but that is how things roll in mainland Europe. Mainland Europe excludes the UK. They are not main anything. 2 peas from the same pod. Fucking leaches on this earth.

You will be welcomed in mainland Europe if you don't swagger like dubya and come pre-prepared with a superiority complex. We don't like that because Europe is the real land of the free. Come see for yourself.
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May 19, 2013, 05:41:15 PM
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the usa cost to much to live in, im in michigan
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May 19, 2013, 05:29:21 PM
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Spanish economy is fucked
Greek economy is fucked

Don't know much about Ghana as I've never been to Africa, but from what I know, most African economies are on the up, resource rich with a shitload of Chinese investment

If you are looking for the best value for your bitcoins against fiat money then stick to the fucked European countries. Smiley

Watched reality show on Discovery that Ghana was just basically fire hydrant Gold mining, by basically making mud and sending down slush box.  But dumbasses at end of show got robbed dealing with Ghana "mob".



Sounds like you are in the US?? Am I right?
Don't believe a fucking word you hear on your TV. The "land of the free" is probably one of the most oppressive regimes on the planet. Or a close runner up to the UK. I'm not joking. The rest of the world is a paradise compared to those 2 "axis of evil"
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May 19, 2013, 04:55:28 PM
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Spanish economy is fucked
Greek economy is fucked

Don't know much about Ghana as I've never been to Africa, but from what I know, most African economies are on the up, resource rich with a shitload of Chinese investment

If you are looking for the best value for your bitcoins against fiat money then stick to the fucked European countries. Smiley
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May 19, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
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Dominican republic...
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Don't live in Greece.
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May 19, 2013, 03:19:23 PM
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What is the best place you recommend to live, thats cheap, I've been looking at spain, ghana and greece, any others? And can someone help me find a reputable realtor?  my price is between 1k-19k in the country (1acre+) Thx
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