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Topic: Where to buy chips/boards. (Read 1882 times)

newbie
Activity: 5
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November 29, 2015, 05:53:20 AM
#23
We've tried every major manufacturer over the past month or two, nothing was available, even with the number 10 miner putting in a good word for us. We did hear back from bitfury but since we don't have funding they stopped responding after telling them our budget after they asked. 21 inc we didn't hear a response through email when we asked about the ability of pointing miners to other pools as decentralization is our fundamental goal for building a miner/company.

our website
http://bitheat.io

blog post about the miner
http://blog.bitheat.io/bitheater
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 28, 2015, 09:20:30 AM
#22
I contacted 21inc and they told me their chips ARE for sale just in bulk, to find out more just email [email protected]  , their chips are really efficient as well.

Can you ask for the price please? 0.16 joules per GH/s is good - Spondoolies SP50 0.15 joules per GH/s but i don't think that the chip exist..
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
November 25, 2015, 08:47:24 AM
#21
The main issue is that the chips from the S7 and Avalon 6 are going into miners that are still NEW - no way are BitMain or Avalon going to willingly undercut their own miner sales right now. Try again in a few months.

 SP50 may or may not actually exist, but Spondoolies seems to have decided to follow BitFury and KnC into the "big industrial sales only" market.

 B-Eleven (Lktec/BW.com) unit doesn't appear to exist yet, or is still just in prototype. Same situation as Bitmain/Avalon, too new to be willing to undercut their miner sales for a while.

 Innosilicon is a wild card, they've tended to sell chips starting close to or at the same time as their miners came out - but their next-gen chip appears to not be in full production yet.

 21etc - see Bitfury, "mass orders only" or buy their light bulbs, err, Bitcoin massively overpriced not-really-a-miner boxes.

 No clue what's going on with SFARDS, but their dual-mining chip is the worse of both worlds at current pricing and performance IF it's actually available for sale.


 Talk to Sidehack about the issues a WELL KNOWN DEVELOPER has had in trying to get anything current-gen for his small projects.

Well said
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
November 25, 2015, 06:33:41 AM
#20


 21etc - see Bitfury, "mass orders only" or buy their light bulbs, err, Bitcoin massively overpriced not-really-a-miner boxes.


Did we ever get any more news on the Light Bulbs, thought they were meant to be released in 2015?


Rich

I think Bitfury realized that nobody wants to pay $40 for a 7GH/S miner that makes lights
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
November 25, 2015, 06:14:59 AM
#19


 21etc - see Bitfury, "mass orders only" or buy their light bulbs, err, Bitcoin massively overpriced not-really-a-miner boxes.


Did we ever get any more news on the Light Bulbs, thought they were meant to be released in 2015?


Rich
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
November 25, 2015, 04:26:26 AM
#18
The main issue is that the chips from the S7 and Avalon 6 are going into miners that are still NEW - no way are BitMain or Avalon going to willingly undercut their own miner sales right now. Try again in a few months.

 SP50 may or may not actually exist, but Spondoolies seems to have decided to follow BitFury and KnC into the "big industrial sales only" market.

 B-Eleven (Lktec/BW.com) unit doesn't appear to exist yet, or is still just in prototype. Same situation as Bitmain/Avalon, too new to be willing to undercut their miner sales for a while.

 Innosilicon is a wild card, they've tended to sell chips starting close to or at the same time as their miners came out - but their next-gen chip appears to not be in full production yet.

 21etc - see Bitfury, "mass orders only" or buy their light bulbs, err, Bitcoin massively overpriced not-really-a-miner boxes.

 No clue what's going on with SFARDS, but their dual-mining chip is the worse of both worlds at current pricing and performance IF it's actually available for sale.


 Talk to Sidehack about the issues a WELL KNOWN DEVELOPER has had in trying to get anything current-gen for his small projects.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
November 24, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
#17
I contacted 21inc and they told me their chips ARE for sale just in bulk, to find out more just email [email protected]  , their chips are really efficient as well.

I do not think so
here is an answer in their web site chat

Quote
Sure, the minimum order quantity threshold is $1MM ($1,000,000) US Dollars.

So the interesting times are over.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
November 24, 2015, 12:55:55 PM
#16
By the time you get the chips and make a board, test it, and then produce it the next gen will be out. Same goes for reverse engineering the chips. By the time you figure it all out, test it, and then tape out there will be a next generation chip that will kill it. I'm not quite sure what the end game here is but it seems like a waste of time to be totally honest.
They are great for stick miners and nice little project miners, not everything is just a massive ROI machine and I think the next gen is further out since it takes the jump to smaller nm.

I agree why not put to gather a 2 th like side wants to do for homes not everyone wants to buy a 4 th 1,7 k priced machine when two 2 th boards using old heat sinks etc might be better not every one cares about ROI they want to mine in there Homes, the big guys just don't understand that .
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 251
November 24, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
#15
By the time you get the chips and make a board, test it, and then produce it the next gen will be out. Same goes for reverse engineering the chips. By the time you figure it all out, test it, and then tape out there will be a next generation chip that will kill it. I'm not quite sure what the end game here is but it seems like a waste of time to be totally honest.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
November 23, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
#14
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
November 23, 2015, 06:45:35 PM
#13
new chip company
care to share more info ?


not new they decided to sell to the public i think it's LKE or some thing like that they made big post here about a month ago .
full member
Activity: 126
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November 23, 2015, 06:41:25 PM
#12
new chip company
care to share more info ?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
November 23, 2015, 06:17:28 PM
#11
Well,
Bitmain behaviour is not surprise since recently they were the one and only company selling to general public, they do not want competition there.
KNC and Bitfury take the path with big corporate farms long time ago, they did not even released any public info on the performance of their chips.
But for me Avalon is surprise.
 I did liked their open source approach in the past with Gen2 ,3 and 4: samples, datasheets, technical support for devs trough mailing list and IRC.
They even had a competition with prizes for open source design for their 2 gen chips. Now I see they choose the Bit main way.
What a pity . So officially open source development of ASIC miners is limited to outdated chips and dead Sad
 May be the last hope is  Spondo , but not sure as far they have corporate hat now and some market decisions are not up to them any more.



yup after SP Merged it all changed.

in  Feb of next year there is suppose ti be another company that might sell to the public cheaper then them all, i read the release date for next fall that was posted wrong but haven't seen any more about it .it may have even been a scam to get some fast cash they were taking per orders.There are very skilled people out there that want to keep home mining going but the big guys for some reason think it's gonna hurt them to help out .


cya
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
November 23, 2015, 05:59:51 PM
#10
Well,
Bitmain behaviour is not surprise since recently they were the one and only company selling to general public, they do not want competition there.
KNC and Bitfury take the path with big corporate farms long time ago, they did not even released any public info on the performance of their chips.
But for me Avalon is surprise.
 I did liked their open source approach in the past with Gen2 ,3 and 4: samples, datasheets, technical support for devs trough mailing list and IRC.
They even had a competition with prizes for open source design for their 2 gen chips. Now I see they choose the Bit main way.
What a pity . So officially open source development of ASIC miners is limited to outdated chips and dead Sad
 May be the last hope is  Spondo , but not sure as far they have corporate hat now and some market decisions are not up to them any more.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
November 23, 2015, 05:43:47 PM
#9
Gekko science


make's there own miners that's how it is possible all they need is a good supply of chips they are the home miners dream Smiley .


it all right here:


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gekkoscience-bm1384-project-development-discussion-995675
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
November 23, 2015, 04:51:18 PM
#8
Where i can order Bitmain/Avalon/Spondoolies-tech chips with boards?
I'm looking for ~200 chips from spondoolies-tech (chips from SP-50),50 chips from bitmain (chips from S7) and 25 chips from avalon 6.
Location: US - Washinghton or China.
Do not offer me full miner,only chips/boards or both.


Honestly bud I'd just avoid the whole mining thing altogether.. The dream of money printers is just that.. A dream.
BTC mining is basically dead now that large corporation is involved and unless you have a huge bankroll you will likely just fail at mining.

It's loud, noisey and hot and I highly suggest that no one bother at this point.. Mining was fucked as soon as ASIC came into play..

My advice: If you want bitcoin just buy bitcoin. If you want to develop a miner better get a sample chip and reverse engineer it and make your own.
Mining is dead, greedsters killed it.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
November 23, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
#7
GekkoScience is using chips from the S5 which were purchased in June. Bitmain doesn't want to sell the BM1385 from the S7. Avalon doesn't seem to want to sell A3218 from the Ava6 but you can get their old A3222 maybe. Spondoolies' "Pickaxe" chip on the SP50, does anyone know if it actually exists yet?
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 23, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
#6
Where i can order Bitmain/Avalon/Spondoolies-tech chips with boards?
I'm looking for ~200 chips from spondoolies-tech (chips from SP-50),50 chips from bitmain (chips from S7) and 25 chips from avalon 6.
Location: US - Washinghton or China.
Do not offer me full miner,only chips/boards or both.



You can't buy only the chips.

Gekko science running on one chip from bitmain... How it is possible?
I don't need controllers or power supplies,only looking for chips or boards Smiley


Only way to get chips. Buy the miner and unsolder them using hot air station.

And what i'll do with controllers ?? I have power supplies and controlers..
But i need 200 chips from SP-50 ( I have no idea about price of this BIG miner ) and not only bitmain,avalon chips..
Thanks for your answer!
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
November 23, 2015, 04:17:22 PM
#5
Where i can order Bitmain/Avalon/Spondoolies-tech chips with boards?
I'm looking for ~200 chips from spondoolies-tech (chips from SP-50),50 chips from bitmain (chips from S7) and 25 chips from avalon 6.
Location: US - Washinghton or China.
Do not offer me full miner,only chips/boards or both.



You can't buy only the chips.

Gekko science running on one chip from bitmain... How it is possible?
I don't need controllers or power supplies,only looking for chips or boards Smiley


Only way to get chips. Buy the miner and unsolder them using hot air station.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 23, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
#4
Where i can order Bitmain/Avalon/Spondoolies-tech chips with boards?
I'm looking for ~200 chips from spondoolies-tech (chips from SP-50),50 chips from bitmain (chips from S7) and 25 chips from avalon 6.
Location: US - Washinghton or China.
Do not offer me full miner,only chips/boards or both.



You can't buy only the chips.

Gekko science running on one chip from bitmain... How it is possible?
I don't need controllers or power supplies,only looking for chips or boards Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
November 23, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
#3
Yep, what he said. Some of us have been talking to the various manufacturers for months with no luck.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
November 23, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
#2
Where i can order Bitmain/Avalon/Spondoolies-tech chips with boards?
I'm looking for ~200 chips from spondoolies-tech (chips from SP-50),50 chips from bitmain (chips from S7) and 25 chips from avalon 6.
Location: US - Washinghton or China.
Do not offer me full miner,only chips/boards or both.



You can't buy only the chips.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 23, 2015, 04:05:38 PM
#1
Where i can order Bitmain/Avalon/Spondoolies-tech chips with boards?
I'm looking for ~200 chips from spondoolies-tech (chips from SP-50),50 chips from bitmain (chips from S7) and 25 chips from avalon 6.
Location: US - Washinghton or China.
Do not offer me full miner,only chips/boards or both.
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