"Where to park my Bitcoin before 1. August possible hardfork?" (Total Newb)

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Quote from: Roccker on July 23, 2017, 12:02:47 PM

Hi there!

I am such a newb, i did hardly ever even send any bitcoin.

So, everybody says i should move my bitcoin away from exchange. To a wallet. So i surely get also the coins from the new Chain that is possibly created.

Now even with this simple thing, i am unsure of myself.
I imagine making some small stupid mistake and losing my life savings.

What is an easy solution for dummies?

Thanks a lot

Just make an offline wallet or paper wallet and then move the bitcoins there. It's the safest place to keep bitcoins anyway.

You can still move them back to an exchange later, but if you aren't going to be trading them, I suggest that you keep them as safe as possible on an offline wallet for storage.

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So I've been trying to transfer my coin from Coinbase to my wallet since yesterday and nothing happens. I've tried 4 times. They say there's going to be a delay but I'm pretty convinced that it's not happening so it's going to stay on the exchange. One thing slightly worries me though, I'm wondering if my repeated tries are going to cause an error. It's like you go to send, paste the address, type the amount and hit send. Then the blue button blinks, and comes back again- no change. No 'ok transaction ', nothing. When I go to history it shows no transaction and my Coinbase btc wallet shows no change. Huh

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Quote from: Dakustaking76 on July 27, 2017, 06:01:53 AM

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on July 27, 2017, 04:13:37 AM

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on July 27, 2017, 03:31:21 AM

Are my bitcoins save at ~~kraken~~ an exchange site?

NO!

Your keys, your money.
Not your keys, not your money!

Realy ?
What can i do now as Fast as possible ?
Making over to an hardware wallet?

The easiest thing you can do is install a good wallet app on your smartphone and move your coins there. A good choice is Mycelium Wallet (available on both iOS and Android). When you install it, make absolutely sure to write down and safely keep the Recovery Seed (12 or 24 words given in a specific order). Those words are your private keys (they are the map to get to them).

Another option is to use a paper waller generator to generate a paper wallet and move your coins there. A good choice is https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com. Make sure you follow the security guidelines towards the bottom of the page. Ideally you should run the paper wallet generator code on a "live DVD" or virtual machine that is not connected to the internet, print the wallet, and then reboot your PC (or wipe out the virtual machine session).

The best choice is to use a hardware wallet such as TREZOR, but I don't think you have enough time to purchase one and have it by 1 August...

Using any of the above methods, you control your private keys and, therefore, you own your coins.

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Quote from: AlcoHoDL on July 27, 2017, 04:13:37 AM

Quote from: Dakustaking76 on July 27, 2017, 03:31:21 AM

Are my bitcoins save at ~~kraken~~ an exchange site?

NO!

Your keys, your money.
Not your keys, not your money!

Realy ?
What can i do now as Fast as possible ?
Making over to an hardware wallet?

AlcoHoDL

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Quote from: Dakustaking76 on July 27, 2017, 03:31:21 AM

Are my bitcoins save at ~~kraken~~ an exchange site?

NO!

Your keys, your money.
Not your keys, not your money!

Dakustaking76

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I have a question to,

Are my bitcoins save at kraken?

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Quote from: 2double0 on July 25, 2017, 02:55:13 PM

No need to send your btc anywhere

Well, i have them on an exchange right now. So will send to electrum.
Will not buy an alt, cause that is a tax-event, i would have to pay taxes.

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I checked about electrum and people are correct about it just setup a electrum wallet and store your bitcoins in it they will take care if rest , i even got a email from cex exchange stating that they can correctly take care of your funds during hard fork. If you still feel unsafe just convert your coins to any stable alt like doge if you are really concern about your funds.

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 25, 2017, 03:02:29 PM

You really should have ordered a Trezor when there was still time for it to arrive before August 1. Too late now.

Is a Trezor really needed here? For some, it may be somewhat expensive which is why they might not have gone for it.
They can still save their coins offline if they want to and save themselves from the dilemma that is being created by miners.

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You really should have ordered a Trezor when there was still time for it to arrive before August 1. Too late now.

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Quote from: Despacito on July 23, 2017, 12:04:44 PM

Bittrex announced that they will lock the bitcoin wallets so that the funds will be in safe in case of a chain split. We have to trust them now.

If we don't prefer to use online wallets and exchanges, we can set up electrum to be in safe. Maybe bitcoin core works too. That's all I know so far.

Keeping your coins in an exchange whether Bittrex or any is like cutting off the nose to spite the face, and not a choice at all.
I would prefer to have them in Core itself or should use paper wallets and store them there as they can be trusted in the worst cases just like the OP did.

Quote from: Roccker on July 25, 2017, 12:50:32 PM

Ok.

Downloaded electrom.
Chose 2factor authentification wallet. From trustedcoin. You have to pay a bit for that, ok.

So now i have a paper at home with a code, and the wallet is encrypted with another code,
and i have 2 factor authentification with phone.
So if i lose phone also everything is lost

Guess i will send bc at the 30th

And using the bcc will be another more or less complicated matter, ok ok

No need to send your btc anywhere, I would say wait after 29th because the chain will itself become complicated and moving your coins means putting ourselves in danger. Waiting is the best thing and you will also need your phone of course if 2FA is enabled.

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Ok.

Downloaded electrom.
Chose 2factor authentification wallet. From trustedcoin. You have to pay a bit for that, ok.

So now i have a paper at home with a code, and the wallet is encrypted with another code,
and i have 2 factor authentification with phone.
So if i lose phone also everything is lost

Guess i will send bc at the 30th

And using the bcc will be another more or less complicated matter, ok ok

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You can withdraw to electrum to be safe, just don't make any transactions right after Aug 1st.

But tbh there isn't going to be much support for an alt hardfork of Bitcoin. It'll die out shortly just like the 5-6 attempts before it did.

Alternatively you can put it on an exchange that has promised to honor forks.

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Yes electrum is good and easy wallet to use and is also safe during split.

The most important thing is that you should have private key of those bitcoin addresses where you will put your coins during that date.

Alternative to electrum can be jaxx wallet or you can simply make one paper wallet from bitaddress.org

Roccker

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Thanks!

I still have to look into it, but electrum wallet for computer desktop seems to be the most interesting option for me right now.

I will not buy change bitcoins for altcoins alone for the reason that this is would trigger tax / taxation.

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Quote from: Despacito on July 23, 2017, 12:04:44 PM

Bittrex announced that they will lock the bitcoin wallets so that the funds will be in safe in case of a chain split. We have to trust them now.

If we don't prefer to use online wallets and exchanges, we can set up electrum to be in safe. Maybe bitcoin core works too. That's all I know so far.

I have two options in my mind:
The first one is to hold the bitcoins in desktop wallet (I'm using the electrum wallet)
And the second one is to send to an exchange and convert/exchange them to altcoins to a coin that I think will not change value a lot or the one that I think will not get dumped(which is very hard to predict)
Others plan?

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Quote from: Roccker on July 23, 2017, 12:02:47 PM

Hi there!

I am such a newb, i did hardly ever even send any bitcoin.

So, everybody says i should move my bitcoin away from exchange. To a wallet. So i surely get also the coins from the new Chain that is possibly created.

Now even with this simple thing, i am unsure of myself.
I imagine making some small stupid mistake and losing my life savings.

What is an easy solution for dummies?

Thanks a lot

It would be safe for you to withdraw your bitcoins from your exchange account to your wallet in your pc.That would be safe for you.This should be done because most exchanges might suspend deposits and withdrawals for 48 hours during hard fork.

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Quote from: Roccker on July 23, 2017, 01:46:44 PM

So, if they do their Bitcoin Cash - thing, every Bitcoin holder also gets the same amount in Bitcoin Cash, is that right? (eg one has 10 bitcoin, they create bitcoin cash, then you also have 10 bitcoin cash?)

Cool - did they say that publicly?
If not i'll guess i'll just ask bitstamp - or can anyone link me to anything where they say it

in my opinion,never trust your money to any exchanger or whatever they called it,
you need to hold it by yourself using offline wallet such ass (trezor,electrum) any other offline wallets,
because you need to have your private keys.
if you trusting your money to any exchanger you don't have the private keys and the consequence would be bad if something goes wrong.
or you can use web wallet (blockchain),but i hardly recommend that because many phising website you can find when you tried to log in.
and will lead you to clipboard viruses,but it's safe place because if you send your money in there you'll have your private keys on you own.
not like other site.

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You can download electrum to your smart phone and it will be safe. The forum moderators also write electrum in the safe wallets list. If they make fork, electrum will take care of it.

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Quote from: Roccker on July 23, 2017, 01:39:57 PM

Thanks!

Ok, a paper wallet seems not supereasy to do. Especially the 'secure' variation.
And if i lose the paper all is lost.

Of course, that's bitcoin, no professional money-keeper keeps your money but yourself.

Was thinking of an online wallet provider. Is there something like that.
Ok, Bittrex. Could use this as a wallet.

It's th easiest thing in the world to do.

Go to bitaddress.org, download the program, close browser, turn wifi off, open browser, open program and make a wallet.

With regards to losing the paper, make three copies, cut them in half and hide them. Never put two opposite halves in the same place.

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Quote from: Despacito on July 23, 2017, 12:04:44 PM

Bittrex announced that they will lock the bitcoin wallets so that the funds will be in safe in case of a chain split. We have to trust them now.

If we don't prefer to use online wallets and exchanges, we can set up electrum to be in safe. Maybe bitcoin core works too. That's all I know so far.

online wallet and exchange wallet is not safe about hardfork

if have hardware wallet sample trezor is very good, if have not hardware wallet is good use dekstop wallet sample electrum
and don't forget save youre private key

but iam ask, if use online wallet but support private key, is safe or not

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So, if they do their Bitcoin Cash - thing, every Bitcoin holder also gets the same amount in Bitcoin Cash, is that right? (eg one has 10 bitcoin, they create bitcoin cash, then you also have 10 bitcoin cash?)

Cool - did they say that publicly?
If not i'll guess i'll just ask bitstamp - or can anyone link me to anything where they say it

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There isn't going to be a hardfork, segwit was a planned softfork and the community has reached consensus on it so there can't be a chain split.

Either way any major exchange would grant you both coins in the event of a chain split.

Roccker

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Thanks!

Ok, a paper wallet seems not supereasy to do. Especially the 'secure' variation.
And if i lose the paper all is lost.

Of course, that's bitcoin, no professional money-keeper keeps your money but yourself.

Was thinking of an online wallet provider. Is there something like that.
Ok, Bittrex. Could use this as a wallet.

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the safest option is a hardware wallet like a trezor or ledger nano s but it looks like they're having serious supply problems so you may not get one in time.

in the event of a new chain the most convenient option is a paper wallet as that gives you access to your raw private keys that you can feed into the bitcoin cash wallet.

here's a couple of guides - http://www.coindesk.com/information/paper-wallet-tutorial/

https://99bitcoins.com/create-99-9-secure-bitcoin-paper-wallet/

if you're not too confident about that then choose a wallet that has stated they'll support both chains. i'm not sure which ones are yet.

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Bittrex announced that they will lock the bitcoin wallets so that the funds will be in safe in case of a chain split. We have to trust them now.

If we don't prefer to use online wallets and exchanges, we can set up electrum to be in safe. Maybe bitcoin core works too. That's all I know so far.

Roccker

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Hi there!

I am such a newb, i did hardly ever even send any bitcoin.

So, everybody says i should move my bitcoin away from exchange. To a wallet. So i surely get also the coins from the new Chain that is possibly created.

Now even with this simple thing, i am unsure of myself.
I imagine making some small stupid mistake and losing my life savings.

What is an easy solution for dummies?

Thanks a lot

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