Topic: Where will we stand at the end of pandemic? (Read 431 times)

The pandemic will only end if Biden gets president. Thats why we have a pandemic. To blame all on Trump and make him lose in November. And it seems to work. Because people are plain stupid to fall for these deep state false flag shits for ages. Well thats not the full truth. We also have a pandemic to justify the triggered economic crisis that was unavoidable. It will be the biggest economic crash we will see in history. And the central bank, who is reasonable for this, can blame it on the virus. And keep going the scam after this.

You could call it conspiracy theory. But very hard times are ahead. Its just the beginning. And they will not let this pandemic end soon. Its kept alive by daily horror news in media. 2nd wave, more deadly, more supersready, more bad ass etc. And it affects only 0.2 to 0.5% of the earth population. A global shut down for a flu. In 20 years our kids will ask us how we let them fool us.

Just imagine we would count flu infections every year. It would be hundreds of millions every year. Can you imagine the fear that this would create? In 2017 we had 650.000k flu deaths world wide and you did not even hear it mentioned in media. Now think about if this gets hyped by media every year. Yes, viruses are the new Muslims. Because the muslim horse got ridden for 19 years now and it aint work anymore. The enemy now is invisible. More dangerous. More deadly. The perfect fear weapon.

Dont you wonder we dont have much flu deaths this year? Yeah they all got counted into corona deaths. Just as people who die by heart attack or even get shot.

Those are just possibilities but still hard to presume out that those things will happen.Stability does really show up that crypto market is somehow holding on in spite of the crisis we are experiencing

but we cant be sure if there would be some consideration and in talks of possible institutional money that would flow going in into this market.Yes, theyve been here for a while now

but not really into that kind of certain extent.We cant hope that much because we cant deny that there still have that doubts and uncertainty towards crypto investments.

I expect we pass through this pandemic stable as we are doing at this moment. If bitcoin is able to stay stable while traditional economies are falling it's without doubts a great achievement for the digital currency, what can boost new investments in bitcoin futurely.
If at the end of this our national economies are too weak and crypto currency is at least stable, our countries can even take advantage of crypto currency and adopt it at least through an experimental level: adopting and incentivizing adoption, investing and accepting investments.
It can be a method to attract external money to the country (investments).

I would say crypto world would be the least affected one. Right now we are already above the price when it first started and we are pretty much doing very well as well. Sometimes in bitcoin world there are movements on the price, and sometimes the investment doesn't go directly into bitcoin but goes into infrastructure of bitcoin that helps it go up later in its life.

For example, after 2017 there was so much money going into companies for them to grow and take advantage of bitcoins movements later on, a lot of companies were acquired by bigger companies, 2018 was basically a year of investing into bitcoin related stuff instead of bitcoin itself. I am sensing the same thing once again in 2020, instead of investing into bitcoin directly, whales are investing bitcoin related stuff to make money later on.

Crypto is still on strong position as i have seen the month out the market is on stable except few token or coins .However Investor always think to invest where he can get quick money as crypto market is high volatile its almost sure that investor don't want to put money into GOLD.

You mean more people will get attracted toward bitcoin investments by leaving off traditional opportunities if they see bitcoin prices are comparatively cheaper? But, I am not seeing bitcoin prices are not going down that much lower still its current price levels are more than enough for any investors to get into this crypto space to make better ROI than what they usually do in traditional investments. I mean from here bitcoin will definitely have at least 10x growth even at the worst cases.


This has been already happening as do we see bitcoin is stable whereas gold is fluctuating more compared how it traded in last 3 to 5 years. I mean due to the people who are switching between gold and bitcoin may be in equal number and in equal capital which is the reason their impact is not that much significant.

I am expecting that we are going to stand by the end of this pandemic around $11,000 levels. I mean we will be all set to begin the strongest rally of 4 year cycle of bitcoin markets.

As long as the vaccine is still not been finished by researchers, expect that this will be the new normal. According to WHO, everything will change because of the pandemic. Actually many institution and businesses all over the world experienced bankruptcy and they are now suffering. But pandemic is not always giving negative to us there are also bright sides. What I mean is there are positive things that the pandemic give to us especially when it comes to pollution. Pollution all over the world decreased, when the lockdown begins. I became full time trader because of the pandemic and I'm happy to earn everyday from it.

I agree with you that we must be hopeful, there must also be a sense of optimism that arises from yourself.
because we will be able to move better and the economy can also recover, with the corona pandemic we are encouraged to be more able to regulate more obediently to rules that so far may always be ignored.

the latest news with the start of the discovery of the virus and has begun to be tested on humans, clearly convincing that we can overcome everything with hard work and help each other in difficult circumstances.
I hope this Corona pandemic can pass quickly and life can be restored to normal.

we believe that the corona pandemic can soon end, and we begin to reorganize life can be better than before the pandemic.
because with a pandemic we are taught to be able to manage lives more wisely and well.

We must become hopeful, things will eventually get better as the economy is opening up, there are news that there are a lot of vaccines that are in testing period and proves to be effective, we will get up and will regain everything we've lost in this pandemic because we as a human are known to be survivors and so are the Crypto community.

No one knows when this pandemic will end and no one has the answer for what might happen in crypto after this, i think there might be lot of changes after this as many of the corporate and small scale industries have already planned for work from home. I guess most of them will take this as advantage and save their earnings as much as they can.

I would definitely prefer to buy some alts from this savings because I know it will change my life one day and I will plan it for long-term.

Normal life cycle happening when pandemic ends but the question when? many things happening and for having a long month of for sure many people are struggling right now maybe they will look for investment but not going on huge risk since many people are still recovering from financial loss when pandemic strikes. But provably the investment on crypto will slowly rise when majority is in good financial state.

When the pandemic ends, people will be back to work and as people go back to work cash flow will be resumed and for sure some crypto investors who choose to just hold cash right now in the middle of the pandemic so they have money to use will think of investing into crypto again.

Right now if we will compare the different investments right now, crypto is so far the best investment this year in terms of how it went up after its huge crash. We saw BTC at march at 8-9k then falling to near the 4k area then months after it went back again and moving sideways as of this moment.

Those crypto holders and those who have extra cash to invest right now are the ones who will prosper in mid to long term. This is not a certainty though but there is a high chance that Bitcoin will go higher after pandemic.

There were things that many people thought about during the "gold investment or crypto investment" pandemic.

These two choices become alternatives which are currently focused by many groups.
OK, if you have invested a lot, in other places, besides these two elements and you have been looking for them, during the pandemic but nothing is good & suitable.
You can start from now.

With limited funds and slow economic conditions, I too guess it would be a wise decisions if we stand still with bitcoins for the plans of re-building our financial things. I am not sure how many people will quit cryptocurrencies for its stagnate conditions along with other troubles due to pandemic, but bearing the current times will definitely will pay off like how usually bitcoin do surprises for every four years.


That is true, no investor should try new things just due to the pandemic and its consequences. If you were familiar with something and getting back to that after pandemic, somehow makes sense. But, just trying all new things will again definitely worsen the situations rather than getting you any solutions for your economic problems.

I am sure I will not try any investment opportunity by the times of end of current pandemic; I will simply continue what I have been doing for years. I am sure bitcoin will get back into its ATH levels by end of this year and then I guess that will get my financial things restored.

Wherever you place yourself at tbh. The current situation could be said to be a standby period, not just for us but also for those investors of stocks and the like. They aren't just going to switch to a speculative asset all of a sudden just because of the Covid, cause if they did, they would've already done so in the past. But they didn't, just goes to show that they don't trust crypto that much that they'd be willing to switch out. Plus, the government is pretty much trying to (at least, their showing up such fronts) make the economy live again.

Additionally, you could say that the attention being put into the pandemic has reduced dramatically now. That is unless, the second wave that most have been expecting hits harder than the first one. If so, you can naturally expect huge collapse of various markets, since with the recent breathing room we got, most businesses have expected for everything to go back at the very least, minimum working situations if not the normal ones.

to be honest, right now I'm thinking about developing a business that I can do going forward. however, nothing can change this situation besides yourself. the choice is, stay like this, or think of development. where you will stand after a pandemic is what you decide right now. Well, I'm thinking about a few things, it's just that it's a matter of limited funds, and I'm still looking for it from Crypto right now.

Several labs around the world are developing vaccines already. Some are running their final clinical trials already. Try searching in Google you'll find many.
Most probably the vaccine will be available early next year.
But will absolutely take a lot of time completely eradicate this pandemic.

Cryptocurrency didn't suffered that much. If you take a look at the Bitcoin's price movement, It seems that the pandemic has no effect in crypto space, though It did affected a little but unlike the traditional market, cryptocurrency was able to recover immediately. $9,000 is still considered a high price, and It has been hovering around that region since the hard fall on March during the rise of the pandemic.

I would not say that America failed, because each country had its own conditions for the spread of coronavirus. We all know that America has very strong social guarantees for every person and every elderly man and woman has the opportunity to live to a ripe old age.Ah, as we all know, it is the elderly who are most susceptible to coronavirus infection. If we compare such countries as America and a certain country of the post-Soviet space, then often in the United States old people live up to 90 and 100 years, and maybe more, but in the countries of the post-Soviet space 60-70 years is the ceiling. That is why America is in such dire conditions. but if we talk for example about Russia specifically, then because of the inaction of the authorities, as well as because of attempts to reveal information about the problems, the situation was getting worse every day. In addition, the United States has much more potential and stronger resources to fight the coronavirus, and not only financially to support the economy and people, but also in strong research laboratories, compared even to the EU countries.

But how long shall we wait, since there's no specific dates to where the vaccine will be launched. Cryptocurrency and the entire economy has been suffering on this situation, the medical institutions is taking advantage towards the government budget and I think has been abused. Protocol really put everyone hardly to adopt, what I heard on most massive test has been too strict and misdiagnosed those other ilnesses even though it wasn't covid-19.

Consumption and productivity are two sides of the same coin. If US consumer spending falls, demand for Chinese (or Vietnamese, etc.) goods falls. Chinese economic output therefore falls too.

The same is true on a domestic level, with regard to service sectors. China is a largely middle class society now and consumer spending is an extremely important part of their economic output, same as the US.

Remember, in a consumer economy, one person's income is generally derived from another person's spending. If unemployment is surging and everyone on average has less disposable income, that has a compounding effect because they spend less on goods and services. That causes excess productive supply and reinforces declines in production and layoffs since there is no demand for previous levels of output. That in turn reinforces a lack of consumer spending. This is the deflationary spiral economists fear.

     Well, it clearly depends on how long this pandemic lasts or when the actual vaccine will be made and distributed all over the world. The way I see it, if this pandemic goes on any longer, I believe that people will be forced to remove investments specially those small time investors. But on the other hand, if this pandemic ends earlier, then we may see a huge pour of investments days or months after because people will be more desperate to find more ways to earn money. Even now, people all over the world are being more open minded in online businesses or any other online jobs and investments. What more when people who used to be well employed suffer? This will definitely force a lot of them to find other ways to earn while trying to find other physical jobs. That is how I think things will turn out one way or another.

America failed because many people doesn't follow the protocol there are so many self entitled person who think they can't be infected nor downplaying the virus. So for this kind of attitude of american's for sure thy will fail as well on their economical status. The vaccine is the only hope by now since if the discovery will prolong we will suffer from economic disaster nor other bad effects came from it.

I think the worst is yet to come if there will be another wave of covid-19. In my country, the pandemic is the reason why many businesses are still not open and why many people lose their regular jobs. If there will be another wave on my country, we are done because our government have now high debt and cannot give assistance anymore to its citizens that are really affected.

But the good thing is, there is now major business not only in our country but all over the world are starting to operate again. The re opening of different economies are important.

I'm not sure if you'd call this a full lockdown since not all non-essential businesses are being forced to close, but this doesn't bode well:


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html

Same as March, other states probably aren't far behind given the trend of the disease.

The trend of large school districts staying closed in the fall is also worrisome to me. To a degree, I think the stock market recovery has been predicated on the notion that schools will reopen next year. If they stay closed across the country, that's tens of millions of workers who have to care for their children instead of sending them to school. Collectively they will no doubt be working much less hours as a result, and that will have material effects on the expected economic recovery.

This is what we do currently seeing when in talks of market condition on where it do able to withstand or able to hold in spite of the current condition we are on.It didnt crash hard unlike on other
stocks or forex that we have seen that had been greatly affected. Profits would really be given out to those people who do held strong even upto now and to those people who do able to accumulate
when the price did go low.In terms of investment aspect then people who do see an opportunity will surely benefit out when the market tends to shift once again but for now we are on the sideways
movement and the thing we do need to do is to wait up for these global crisis to be over and start all over in terms of investment aspect.

The pandemic has put fears into peoples mind, not to invest or to spend unnecessarily. People are now trying to make earns meet first before any other thing. Investing in bitcoin is the last thing on peoples mind as it stands now. It will be difficult for a newbie to use the money meant for his or her upkeep during this pandemic to invest in a long term investment like bitcoin, no matter how bullish bitcoin seems.

There is a big difference between the economical problems that you feel, and economical index of countries. Just to give an example, if 3 super rich people make 100 billion dollars each, that 300 billion dollars richer in economy as overall and that means financially nation will look like it is improving, while everyone else could lose 50 bucks overall and that wouldn't change anything about it.

So, as you can see everyone got poorer and only 3 people got richer but economy "looks" better. What bitcoin works is right at that moment, it works when they say "it is doing better" but it is actually not, and it works when everything is actually for real getting better. How will it be when poor people are poorer but also rich are poorer, basically everyone is poorer, I do not know.

I'm more concerned with Asia and development of the treatment overall.   Its a shame USA has failed to contain the spread and its only going to stop with a vaccine I guess though using distance to separate people should be possible in a large country I guess there is too much population density in cities so its spreading way past r factor of 1.
  The reason asia or any export surplus based economy would be a greater concern is in terms of base line production and capacity and thats where it really matters most, the idea of consumption being more important is a fallacy I think.    Its tied to dollar reserve and how demand is represented globally in that unit but trade should continue to be possible long term.   We might transition away from dollar, Im just a little guy and its a big concept to observe but the basic idea is goods matter not FIAT or promissory notes.
   Short term we get a fallback in speculation because markets are leveraged by the dollar effect and it would be seen as lower demand and yea I guess thats fear but the reality for me is demand comes from trade between producers who create value in order to consume each other products.   That is the principle of comparative advantage hundreds of years old as a theory and hopefully proven by now in modern economic success by the exchange of goods globally.   The debt backing dollar and other ideas are a weaker path we've taken imo, I guess saying that is political but I only care about capitalism allowing the best economy really.   Reading through the explanation of comparative advantage I think its possible to see how we got distortion and this fear where we want constant inflation with more debt, but I dont think it can last ad infinitum.  Even bigger then the largest government actions are natural effects and all along that is what economic theory should have respected.   The pandemic is a natural phenomena as are all economies of the world because people are natural however fake various prices and fixed rates might be.
  Will Bitcoin be effected by weaker dollar demand just like all the assets, commodities and markets you mention, short term yea but seems like if we are able to move onto trade of goods being a focus that Bitcoin would be part of that as its not tied to USD specifically.  

Actually, we already have seen the worst*. The fact that some businesses are slowly getting back in shape, we can see that the world is now rising again. There are countries that already declared COVID-free and some have successfully managed to decrease the numbers of confirmed cases.

But for let's say, things have gotten more worst, I don't see that most newbies will switch into crypto as they aren't into the purpose of holding it. Quick money is necessary during the pandemic (different situation per country).

I advise not to think too much. Bitcoin is already tested in the worst times. The pandemic will surely end and everything will get back on track.

I am agreed with  OgNasty that bitcoin will be held with stronger hand at the end of the pandemic. And the crypto market makes a huge gain. though the world condition is still pandemic, people have learned to take it as normal. also market is holding it position strongly over 9k$. when the pandemic will end trader/investors will be relaxed and start their journey by investing again. 

Great to have the insights from one of the legend on our forum.

I agree that the people with strong will and character will be the ones who would hold their bitcoins in such times.


But that is also being done by Paypal and other payment processors plus the fact that Bitcoins still is yet to gain the legal status in most countries while some countries allow transactions they still do not deem bitcoins as legal as it needs to be for mass payments.

I think the pandemic is not going to end anytime soon and anyone who is able to safeguard their bitcoins by panics and market drops will be benefiting big time once the pandemic actually ends.

bitcoin stands even in the height of pandemic, it will definitely stand  in the end.
the only that you'd worry though is if the price will also go up because coronavirus seem not really slowing down and there is nothing we can do until it goes away. the pandemic makes us afraid to spend anything as investment. unless BTC will suddenly grow and everyone adopting it then we'd probably see newcomers from other markets joining the rally.

Over the months the stock market of different countries have hit the peak as well as experienced the low bottom. Bitcoin getting its growth pattern similar to stock market won't happen in the short.

Though bitcoin value is based on demand to the supply, we can't predict the market as it is manipulative. Another thing in my opinion, if bitcoin market movement ends similar to the traditional market automatically the demand will fall. For the uniqueness bitcoin is preferred by people over other investments available in the market.

I've been reading several times about an article that bitcoin is really close or highly correlated with the stock market.

As you may know, when the coronavirus hit exactly at 12 March ago most of stock market or most of investment place including bitcoin was decreasing.

Until now, the price movement if I see day by day most of traditional investment place are same with crypto curreny. So, there will be many chance if this pandemic end the movement price of crypto will be like traditional investment place.

If this is going to be worse then every investment sector will get hit and crypto market will be no exception to it because people will be more interested in surviving than making profits, so hopefully the pandemic may not get more worse anymore so the market will start recovering gradually.But this pandemic might changed the mind of investors about where should we invest our money more which could probably land on cryptos it is really doing better than traditional investments.

This pandemic has a long term effect but crypto will surely grow as it's proven to be a strong asset during this time and it would be attractive to investors. The fiat system might suffer due to the loans of our government, taxes will increase while unemployment will rise, but crypto should always be a great option for people who like to hedge that kind possibility in the future and that's where the money will come in.

Not likely.  I don't know how much more the situation could worsen, unless we start seeing massive numbers of new cases or a mutated strain of the coronavirus (and perhaps a more virulent one at that), but my guess is that if the world has to go into lockdown again for a significant amount of time, we'd start seeing people pulling money out of their investments, including crypto.  That's basically what happened early on in March/April, when we saw the stock market take a hit.

I'm hoping that scenario won't happen, and I've got my fingers crossed that there will be an effective vaccine developed to combat COVID-19.  That would take quite a while, but I think the world could suck it up until one comes to market. 

Bitcoin got lucky IMO.  I'm really surprised that it didn't keep sliding toward $5k or lower when everything seemed like it was being sold off.  Bitcoin rebounded quite nicely, and that's a bit baffling to me.  Maybe it had something to do with the stimulus money, but who knows.

There's always a chance to anyone who will learned this market to start investing, the pandemic affects every investment  venue and
people are looking for every opportunities, if they'll see that from here then the chance is high that they'll
be going inside and start investing their money.

Higher is the chance of people who used to invest in cryptocurrencies will take a break from investing in crypto and think about traditional investment vehicles like stocks, real estate and helping out other small businesses when the pandemic will be over because there will be a lot of new opportunities created in the same old market due to the economic slowdown provided by the pandemic, but after some saturation, we will again see the trend in which people again invest in bitcoin and will see bitcoin as a lucrative investment.

We can not assume that the price will stay in its current state of the price if the pandemic is totally gone will the price stay or correction might occur, because in my opinion the current price right now is not the real value we are seeing, this may go down when all goes well, but the current price right now is still decent so many holders are still cool with it and I really think that it is good to invest in cryptocurrency when the stocks are all down at the moment.

Have we not seen its worse before? We are now recovering as other countries started to flattening their curves. Company closurr is inevitable, but businesses are not all engaging cryptocurrencies so Im not really worried at all. Yes there are whales playing with it, but we cant be sure if those are not real new investors who are thinking that cryptomarket is a safe haven for their investment.

Its not that I'm missing the point but I understand these factors that affect the market globally or even at small scale magnitude influx of investment.

I think we are only in waiting time now here,because obviously the search about crypto specially Bitcoin this past months really increase insignificantly things that we may call our advantage now.

Look if all those researcher will come and invest inc rypto market after the pandemic?don't you think this is a Big Blast in our economy here?

I know that there are certain fear from those who saw the Huge dump last march but these people also saw the Great growth just weeks after that fall.

Supporting this.a very short Post but means a Lot specially to the people who really trust and support Bitcoin and not those posting things but never even come to invest in this great coin.

Bitcoin was actually created for this time and it has performed will in the face of this covid19. I believe that since some countries has started developing vaccine very soon we would start to see improvement and recovery in cryptocurrencies market in general.

I also think the massive drop has something to do with the corona virus being at it's peak during that time and maybe people panicked and cashed their assets which may have brought the market to a massive halt but I think there were other reasons as well like the PlusToken scam and the other problems like the share market crashed I heard so to maintain capital in share trading a lot of people sold their assets like bitcoins.

Yes we survived that hole and actually recovered pretty steeply as I was expecting that we will recover but the recovery might be slow given the market but then we actually recovered within 2 weeks if I am not wrong mostly.

Firstly the end of pandemic is not known yet because the problem is only getting more serious with time and there are no genuine signs of the pandemic slowing down by any means even as Russia has developed some vaccine but it is still not tested.

Now coming back to the crypto future when pandemic ends, basically I don't think much has been happening to crypto price and investors aren't too worried about the situation because almost every sector is as badly effected and there is no better opportunity if you divest from bitcoins where will you use that money? Gold is not the best option because the price is going to be stable or even negative in coming days since most of the people are saving money so gold can't be a good investment in near future.

The clearest position bitcoin could have after this would be to promote the fact that "pay without touching anything" method, basically QR code, so if you do that, you would also help banks too because some banks do allow that as well, you download banks app, the shopping place has a tablet, they show you a qr code, you open your bank app and you pay that way without touching.

We could have same idea with the bitcoin world as well, and that could help us get so much more attention into bitcoin, but I am not sure if that would get the only attention. It would be more like 5% bitcoin attention, 95% bank app attention. However, whatever helps us is good for us, not really something that would be bad even if it is just 1% of the attention to QR code payments goes to bitcoin.

Agreed.   And hopefully those hands will be the ones that earned those coins.

I didn’t start with the Ponzi scheme. I have discovered bitcoin in another forum in which there are a lot of people who got info there and are sharing their own opinion on it. It’s quite informative, and I got hooked to BTCT because everything is in here. The world will survive for sure, and I don’t think there’s something to be worried about, just our daily needs, IMO.

Luckily the halving pass and many people been hype unto it since we are able to remain at $9k price figure at this point, I can think even more worse if there's no halving especially for todays pandemic events since provably we will suffer from major dump if that's the case since I assume many people are afraid to lose their money and trust the investments while the virus hit badly.

I think we have seen the worst already, the scare around March wherein the price goes down to $3k for me would be the serious threat to bitcoin and the rest of the crypto market. However, we have survived it already. So I doubt that if we ever see a second wave of infections, the price of bitcoin might decline but not as close to 50%. Investors have already diversify their assets, as for newbies, there is a chance that they will choose bitcoin over traditional instrument.

obviously because crypto has a very different market share from the others, so long as there is no internet disruption, crypto can still run well. crypto only requires an internet network and people who want to invest in tokens that are sold in the crypto market.

fortunately in the corona pandemic, the bitcoin market can still run well, not very affected, as seen from the movement of bitcoin in the past few months it has always been in the position of $ 9K.
had dropped to $ 8K and had broken through $ 10K, but did not last long and returned to remain in the $ 9K range. this is clearly good news and is very supportive of crypto being able to remain targeted by investors.

traditional investment business is also still there that can run well, as long as it is related to the market place with online services, of course. so as long as there is still an internet network, all things related to online are not so affected and can run properly. so it's not just crypto that works well.

as a beginner or not a beginner obviously investing in bitcoin is very promising. because prospects continue to always develop and are highly sought after. but for now it is not advisable to invest in a new project because it is very risky. it's better to keep holding altcoin at the top of the list for investment because it reduces risk but not without risk.

You are missing the point here, yeah Bitcoin might have defied all odds when it was the first one to recover in majority of the asset markets out there but it doesn't mean it has been proven and tested that it can stand when the situation of this pandemic worsened. If we see more companies and businesses close and the unemployment rate rise I don't think that the crypto market will be as immune as we think. Technically Bitcoin rising earlier is a strong case of it going down due to influence of whales shorting it rather than the real affects of the pandemic as economically speaking the world isn't as bad financially as compared to where we are now, we can't really be complacent or confident because Bitcoin is doing good now.

To clarify, I'm not really talking about Europe. I'm talking about America:



All metrics of the epidemic are threatening to exponentially increase again, so I'm concerned we'll see lockdowns in the US again, starting with economic powerhouses like California. They were the first state to lock down in March.

And as we know, when it comes to economic matters, when America sneezes the world catches a cold. I would expect fear to spread to emerging markets, crude oil, export-heavy countries, China, etc.

If you noticed a lot of new community and users have shown interest on cryptocurrency during locked down of course this is due to staying at home. Even now with crisis, bitcoin remain strong, even without new investors it can still stand but its not totally on bitcoin but also to other coins such as altcoin relates to defi.

Its just hurting that forsage project become known and popularity of ethereum connects with this, but this is a scam ponzi scheme.

My assumption is that,at the end of the coronavirus pandemic,Bitcoin will stand at the place where it is currently standing.The BTC price will be somewhere around 10K USD(maybe above or maybe below) and nothing will change drastically.The expected army of Bitcoin newbies will never come,because many people will lose their jobs and savings during the recession,so they will try to find a 9/5 job,instead of joining the crypto markets.
The major institutional investors will get support from the central banks,so they won't be interested in investing on the crypto markets.

Scam and Ponzi scheme looks so aggressive this time as they took advantage over those young minds and no-how investors switching into their crypto journey. Things we can't deny that most of them had been a victim of this trick and to say that this is actually hard for beginners.

We surely don't know when this pandemic will have its ends but then, I don't think crypto will just only be the last option to make money in this hardest situation. I know the crypto investment is really profitable but of high-risk, and it also requires deep market understanding which is not really advisable for now-how investors.

The end is not in sight, the pandemic can end in 6 months (in case an effective vaccine is found), and it can last for another 6 years with larger or smaller seasonal waves. Markets will adapt over time, just as people will adapt, but they will certainly be much more cautious than before. Beginners will always look for a way to make a profit, and some will surely like Bitcoin at first. Traditional investors will continue to choose gold, silver, bonds or real estate because they are not gamblers, and they want minimal risk for their investments.

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I'm not entirely sure how things are in the world when it comes to full locking, but in the EU some countries are definitely hit by the second wave, which did not result in a lockdown, but only enhanced protection measures. Here is an example of my country - we had 0 infected for a few weeks, we opened up completely and now we have 50-100 new cases a day, but as a tourist country we also have 500 000 tourists (interestingly none infected ) which means we put profit first, and then health of citizens. What to say when we have a president who compares Covid-19 with dental problems

I don't view things in those terms, where BTC and "traditional investments" are at odds. I actually see them moving together. Stocks, BTC, and gold are all risk assets to differing degrees.

What does that mean with regard to the pandemic? Well, if this second wave goes exponential and lockdowns become widespread again, the markets are going to punish all risk assets. Just like March, gold will probably fare better than stocks. BTC will probably fare considerably worse. That's just a monument to the lack of liquidity in the crypto markets and the degree to which investors view BTC as a risky and speculative investment.


Hard to argue with that.

I think many of us start with the Ponzi scheme at the beginning, and after we have much experience of being a scam, we realize that we need to stop the cycle by reading and learning more about crypto. If we can get the right sources, we will make money even if we are still at this pandemic because we can survive. We can help them by giving the correct information about investing in bitcoin, so they don't get the fake investment programs.

From what I have seen in some of the social media accounts that I have, my friends there have started their cryptocurrency journey but on the wrong path at first. Technically they are going to the Ponzi Scheme path with Forsage and many more Ponzi schemes that use cryptocurrency. With that being said, there are still people who have money to invest in something that they think they can profit from, so there's no need to worry about it too much. Sharing and influencing people would be ideal for the right applications of crypto.

One thing is certain, at the end of this pandemic Bitcoin will be held by stronger hands.

I cannot say that we can get those things since it depends on the changes of things since for sure the other companies will adopt the digital scene and I see so any of them in my country right now. But this assumptions will came true if we will have a good introduction or advertisement from this industry since if bitcoins will introduced well to the newbies and make them understand on how it works on other ventures for sure we will get the adoption we wanted.

What I meant was I don't think we'll get a collapse that dramatic again from anything relating to the current situation. It could easily decline back to that price level over time due to boredom, indifference or everyone being broke but not a monstrous plunge.

There'll be no shortage of future dramas but this particular one has already bitten as hard as it can.

Usually I'd agree but the volatility is going to rise over the years anyhow.   I would hope any upset would not come via this virus event but in finance terms we are in a declining situation, it will mean alternatives to the previous reliable standards will start to become more important.   People speculate that would include BTC and that might be true but we are going to see both deflation and also very likely inflation result as we have introduced so much new money at the same time as GDP falls; when that eventually circulates we'll have a monetary base with consistency of quicksand to build on and upset is very likely forthcoming from this irregularity.   Its so unpredictable that even 3k might happen, usually people point to much higher prices but I imagine both are possible if its a proper richter scale movement.

If the situation gets worsen, I don't think new investors would show up in crypto market, because investments will not become the priority during health and economic crisis. Instead, people will invest to things that could provide them basic necessities to survive like food agriculture, livestock, and water (I'm thinking about the worst of worst of this situation). Not to mention, during lockdowns and community quarantines, majority of the workers will have their jobs halted for a period of time, and businesses will be closed down. Thus, depriving them to earn their regular income. So, how do you think these people get their money from to invest in cryptocurrency?

A lot of people are saying that Bitcoin was born during a recession and then somehow they connected it for being some kind of safe haven during these kind of times, their statement making it stronger is this time where Butcoin quickly recovered after a sharp drop to 4,800$ the problem is this wasn't a real test on how Bitcoin will stand when we face the real economic problem this pandemic will bring. I know jobs will be cut and a lot of businesses will shut their operations and will inevitably affect all kinds of assets including crypto.

We haven't really started to eat the financial pain it's created yet. A lot of economies are still in suspended animation. When they start to thaw out it might get ugly. No one is going to switch to a highly speculative instrument if their day to day necessities prove hard to pay for.

But the people at the top are who we should be keeping an eye on. They're the ones who'll lead future price action as they warm to the idea. As it stands it looks like governments have signalled they're willing to do anything to keep the party going so perhaps in the long run this whole thing will be seen as a temporary blip.

I don't believe we'll get any further price shocks like the fall back into the $3000s. That is a one time freak out that only comes along very occasionally.

No one knows exactly on what would happen next when it comes to investment talks yet people do have their own will if they would switch up another field or simply cash out of their investment for them to survive if this pandemic situation becomes even more worst or still cant be solved out in upcoming months or even years to come.We cant even sure if people will switch up from traditional investments to crypto.
We might be seeing that crypto market hasnt been affected much on the current global economic situation but it doesnt mean that we wont see any correlation of price movements soon.
For now, lets not hope for that matter because everything would come in line on a specific period of time.

If you ask me the only reason the pandemic crisis/recession hasn't crushed down BTC price is the halvening. My theory is that since we have now less BTC inflation because of block rewards being 100% less made the price resist the crisis and now we are bouncing between 9k-10k. People complain that the halvening hasn't made price movement in 2 months which is quite unusual compared to past halvenings but they don't seem to grasp that this halvening is potentially just counter balancing the dump provoked by the pandemic (people need money during crisis, it's logic to sell some or all their BTC holdings when a lot lost their jobs etc..) So in theory at the end of pandemic we can see more demand and potentially a rise in price but if you ask me buying at 9k-10k is risky at the moment as 9k level is being tested regularly these past few days more than 10k.

You mean new money coming in from new investors.

This depends on you. If you look to the pandemic as the end of your crypto investing journey, that's not how you handle things. But we can still see the same thing even as this pandemic ends, we'll continue to invest.

Continue to buy and hold.

As of now crypto is surviving this harsh period wherein we have seen Bitcoin doing better han expected and same goes with altcoins as well but where will we find ourself at the end of pandemic? If the situation worsens do you think we will get more investment from newbies who might by switching from their traditional investment to a crypto as none of the businesses are going to prosper during this situation so there are chances we will get more investment into crypto or else there are possibilities of massive cashout if crypto decline as the existing players would switch to gold atleast to keep their investment intact.

Kindly share your suggestions