Which casino will be the next big scam?

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 11, 2017, 12:22:55 AM

I just look at those who are doing advertisements here or those who will be willing to pay a lot for different services and that is how I see a gambling site that wont scam.
If they can sacrifice a lot of money then they might be staying for long also to get back all the capital plus profit.
The others would be a scam for me.

There is one error in your "logic"! You do not know from what they pay the advertisements, services, etc.

An operator could embezzle 90% of all customer balances and would be still able to process all pending withdrawal requests: I explain it here:

Online Gaming Embezzlement - General info

To run a casino does not necessarily mean = make money! A lot of operators fail!

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Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable.

Which big Bitcoin casino will be the next Dice.Ninja?

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll? Is it going to be SatoshiDice? KingDice? Or maybe it'll be someone we'd least suspect, like Dooglus or Stunna?

What do you think?

I don't think Crypto-Games will run away or do an exit scam. I feel like the next big scam will come from those software providers like what happened at betcoin(slots jackpot), betonline(dealer cheating). Imo those newly launched casinos have a higher chance to do scammy things than older casinos.

Why do you say that? Haven't most of the scams and thefts been from older sites rather than new ones? Dice.Ninja, SatoshiDice (apparently), MtGox, etc...

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Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable.

Which big Bitcoin casino will be the next Dice.Ninja?

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll? Is it going to be SatoshiDice? KingDice? Or maybe it'll be someone we'd least suspect, like Dooglus or Stunna?

What do you think?

I don't think Crypto-Games will run away or do an exit scam. I feel like the next big scam will come from those software providers like what happened at betcoin(slots jackpot), betonline(dealer cheating). Imo those newly launched casinos have a higher chance to do scammy things than older casinos.

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Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable.

Which big Bitcoin casino will be the next Dice.Ninja?

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll? Is it going to be SatoshiDice? KingDice? Or maybe it'll be someone we'd least suspect, like Dooglus or Stunna?

What do you think?

Ahahah, why you must fear for it. Gambling does have the same system, but sometimes there are owners who have been very professional and do not want to get the losses of all time. then they will definitely find a way out for the starting bankroll runs out because they were losing. you need to know, most of their bankroll they get did not come from gambling but of those who do have an interest to invest in it. so there will probably bankroll runs out, they are a scam. Because they have a lot of investors

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 11, 2017, 01:28:15 AM

If the deposit and withdrawal processes for a Casino is smooth, and it is provably fair, then there is no need for them to scam your money... your money will eventually be theirs.

The casino is often making quite a small percentage. Its going to take many games for them to really profit from one customer, the people who gain when one person loses cash is of course the winners in the same game. All the house does usually is charge fees for operating the table and of course their take is never gambled, its more a charge where as anyone can end up unlucky and pay higher amounts for taking risks.
Excessive fees is something else, keep an eye out for that and withdraw winnings to somewhere safe seems a good idea to stop worry

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Quote from: debuni on March 10, 2017, 11:46:12 PM

LOL. My guess - 1x-bit.com. They are very very shady. And there are hundreds scam accusation against 1x-bet.com.

yeah i agree they do not respond to any email or message, i was a part of their campaign, and their customers service is very bad denying facts about the website not working problem with a mess on deposits or withdrawals, better to stay away from it

It has been stated by many people that 1xbet and 1xbit is handled by the same owner and surely scam incident happen to this site if people will believe on their scheme and the odds given and actually some of their sig participants defend the 1xbit itself and stated good at them for the sake of money paid in their sig. And look what happen now? They've got compromised many people and surely if their bad scheme doesn't busted by great guys i think their would be more profits to come on them if they accumulate huge deposits from their gambler.

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Quote from: Ayers on March 11, 2017, 05:54:08 AM

Quote from: debuni on March 10, 2017, 11:46:12 PM

LOL. My guess - 1x-bit.com. They are very very shady. And there are hundreds scam accusation against 1x-bet.com.

yeah i agree they do not respond to any email or message, i was a part of their campaign, and their customers service is very bad denying facts about the website not working problem with a mess on deposits or withdrawals, better to stay away from it

The more I read about these guys, the more shady they seem. Lots of reports of bad behaviour.

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Quote from: FLoving on March 11, 2017, 06:04:43 AM

That is not good that you target that casino which do not have any issue. No one will think you as a sensible as you have forgot those casinos which have the chances to scam or we can say which have a lot of issues to the users. In the first point you have listed a casino which is more than legit about which no any member have any scam accusation.

I haven't made any any accusations or "target"'d any casino though. Your post is nonsensical. My first "point"? I don't think I made any points; it was a question.

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That is not good that you target that casino which do not have any issue. No one will think you as a sensible as you have forgot those casinos which have the chances to scam or we can say which have a lot of issues to the users. In the first point you have listed a casino which is more than legit about which no any member have any scam accusation.

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Quote from: debuni on March 10, 2017, 11:46:12 PM

LOL. My guess - 1x-bit.com. They are very very shady. And there are hundreds scam accusation against 1x-bet.com.

yeah i agree they do not respond to any email or message, i was a part of their campaign, and their customers service is very bad denying facts about the website not working problem with a mess on deposits or withdrawals, better to stay away from it

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Most of the major casinos are very reputable, they are long and experienced traders, they have the full experience and ability to pay for all bets, as So, a potentially fraudulent casino is new and small casinos. Most of them are created in a simple way, and the only purpose is fraud, if you want to participate in any casino, think carefully about its prestige, otherwise you will lose everything.

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Of course cloudbet, and one big possible site is: satoshidice, the new owner acquired the website for 100,000 BTC, how can he earn the money back? Lure invstors and run away.

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there are many casinos and I can ensure that most of them are scammers. You should check the website before putting your money into it. BItcointalk can be considered as the best place to check whether the websites are good or bad since it is the community of Bitcoin users. However, we can never know when the Bitcoin casinos turn into scammers because there are no sight. You have to trust casinos and risk your money if you want to play

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Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 11, 2017, 04:16:02 AM

The question was rhetorical, so there's nothing to disagree with. I'm not accusing you guys of anything.

Why do you list those casinos? I'm not sure about the FortuneJack one.

And over-exaggerated.Literally blowing it out of proportions.You didn't have to add the tag 'vanish' as it makes it looks like something else,now that Lutpin has posted it makes sense where that 'vanish' is coming from.If you still want to keep it unbiased,I request you to edit the main post.

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Quote from: Lutpin on March 11, 2017, 04:12:30 AM

Are you still upset CG didn't pay you for your "review"?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18058543

Yes, very much so. Grin

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Quote from: Patatas on March 11, 2017, 04:09:27 AM

Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll?
What do you think?

Considering the amount of scam accusations opened against Crypto-Games till date,it is the last casino to vanish with the bank roll. (btw crypto-games has the least shill scam accusations opened till date compared to all the other casinos). With no history of scams or unresponsive support, with all due respect,I disagree with you.

The question was rhetorical, so there's nothing to disagree with. I'm not accusing you guys of anything.

Why do you list those casinos? I'm not sure about the FortuneJack one.

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Goodbye, Z.

Are you still upset CG didn't pay you for your "review"?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18058543

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Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll?
What do you think?

Considering the amount of scam accusations opened against Crypto-Games till date,it is the last casino to vanish with the bank roll. (btw crypto-games has the least shill scam accusations opened till date compared to all the other casinos). With no history of scams or unresponsive support, with all due respect,I disagree with you.

However here's my list for reference :
-Vegascasino.io
-bitcasino.io
-FortuneJack

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 11, 2017, 01:28:15 AM

If the deposit and withdrawal processes for a Casino is smooth, and it is provably fair, then there is no need for them to scam your money... your money will eventually be theirs.

You are indeed on spot, they certainly have good business prospects by putting their feet down and running their business as professionally as possible, the edge is already to their favor and of a certainty most players would without sweat, hand over their money to them.

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Quote from: nicolecan13 on March 11, 2017, 02:04:42 AM

I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable. Which big Bitcoin casino will be the the next scam we dont know now but in the future we will encounter it soon.

The problem with the biggest casino scams is that they are happening so suddenly, you usually can't withdraw your money.
It is hard to trust every random internet comment warning you that gambling service is trying to scam.
Some users after experiencing losing streak will write unfavorable review and may call casino a scam just because they are angry.

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I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable. Which big Bitcoin casino will be the the next scam we dont know now but in the future we will encounter it soon.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 11, 2017, 01:28:15 AM

If the deposit and withdrawal processes for a Casino is smooth, and it is provably fair, then there is no need for them to scam your money... your money will eventually be theirs.

Some casinos might prefer to take 100% of everything now rather than 1-2% of what you gamble over the years. Especially with very well funded public bankrolls.

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If the deposit and withdrawal processes for a Casino is smooth, and it is provably fair, then there is no need for them to scam your money... your money will eventually be theirs.

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Quote from: bajing on March 11, 2017, 12:47:18 AM

Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable.

Which big Bitcoin casino will be the next Dice.Ninja?

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll? Is it going to be SatoshiDice? KingDice? Or maybe it'll be someone we'd least suspect, like Dooglus or Stunna?

What do you think?

I think it's too bad to say they would be scams, as long as there is no evidence that they are cheating or not pay a player wins then we should not say they would be scams.

Why?

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Quote from: TheBitcoinStrip.com on March 10, 2017, 11:35:48 PM

I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable.

Which big Bitcoin casino will be the next Dice.Ninja?

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll? Is it going to be SatoshiDice? KingDice? Or maybe it'll be someone we'd least suspect, like Dooglus or Stunna?

What do you think?

I think it's too bad to say they would be scams, as long as there is no evidence that they are cheating or not pay a player wins then we should not say they would be scams.

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I just look at those who are doing advertisements here or those who will be willing to pay a lot for different services and that is how I see a gambling site that wont scam.
If they can sacrifice a lot of money then they might be staying for long also to get back all the capital plus profit.
The others would be a scam for me.

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Quote from: debuni on March 10, 2017, 11:46:12 PM

LOL. My guess - 1x-bit.com. They are very very shady. And there are hundreds scam accusation against 1x-bet.com.

To be honest, I've never heard of this casino before. And their website looks like crap.

I wouldn't be surprised if you're right.

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Satoshidice is already a big scam: Satoshidice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared!

Next? My tip is SportsBet + BitCasino: Too good to be true promotions, leaderboards, moneybacks and manager already embezzled player funds.

The Hague also already know that they are illegal: Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ

Good luck!

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LOL. My guess - 1x-bit.com. They are very very shady. And there are hundreds scam accusation against 1x-bet.com.

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I see scam complaints here all the time. Some frivolous, and some believable.

Which big Bitcoin casino will be the next Dice.Ninja?

Will Crypto-Games vanish with the bankroll? Is it going to be SatoshiDice? KingDice? Or maybe it'll be someone we'd least suspect, like Dooglus or Stunna?

What do you think?

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