Topic: Which Covid 19 Vaccine is is the best ? (Read 371 times)

I live in Venezuela although I have not received the Covid19 vaccine. I can share the experience of my relatives and people I know about the effects of the vaccines they have received.
My sister received the China Sinopharm vaccine, as a side effect she told me that the symptoms were mild.
I have also checked the internet and the data reveal that the effectiveness of this vaccine is an average of 67.8% and 80.2% depending on the age of the people vaccinated.
In my country a vaccination plan was devised with the Sinopharm, Sputnik V vaccines and the Cuban Abdala vaccine.
The population is concerned about the effectiveness of this vaccine (Abdala) God help us. If I have learned to live with the virus without a vaccine, I will continue with the same care because the issue now is the efficacy of vaccines to achieve immunity.
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/cubas-new-covid-19-vaccine-finds-testing-ground-in-venezuela-11625738401

Wait, is it that the Covid-19 vaccine is of different types and kinds?.  Because the viral video i watched few days ago that show how  any metal can get  magneted to any particular spot  where the patient was injected and this  can cause a total  disapproval from the masses as per taking it since it can cause such absurd experience to the few people who took it. But well  even as the case maybe why is it not produce with same effectiveness as the others. why is the effectiveness differing?  This is why the masses will find it difficult to believe the authenticity because a vaccine cannot be produce for different purposes and at same time the purpose now differ in effectiveness  To me it is good producing a vaccine but what do you expect of the poor masses who might find it difficult to believe in any controversial Vaccine.

There is no such thing as good Graphene Oxide in a living being, it is outright banned for human usage.

That is indeed the reason why there is somehow distress in Russia right now. I've read some articles regarding the issue of Russia, but now not hearing any.

There is internal problem within the country, and I think someone is covering this up.

I've read that Sputnik V had skipped clinical trials and was distributed to Russia's citizens without even completing phase 1. I think the Pfizer one has the best efficacy out there currently, and has shown less adverse side effects, which are statistically rare in most if not every vaccine listed here. The Johnson one is a decent candidate too, it's one shot, and you're done with it.

Likewise, I got vaccinated with the Pfizer one and had no side effects whatsoever, I'm receiving the next dose in approximately 10 days from now.

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i thought i've read "casino"....that's right you are gambling your life away 

This link posted by @Shamm and I think this is suitable to your thread  this are all about the vaccine..Who are able to get the Vaccine? What are the symptoms? And Dosage.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-safe-to-us-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-5347892

Pfizer / Biontech was the best vaccine up until the Delta variant. Now it seems that the initial immunity from 95% dropped down to 65% for the Pfizer vaccine. This will probably need further testing but what seems to be the best mix for the Delta variant is first injection AstraZeneca and second injection Pfizer/Biontech or Moderna. A cross mix of vaccines seems to have a higher immune reaction.

Single dose efficiency of the Sinovac vaccine is 3%. The details are here:
https://qz.com/2018838/what-we-know-about-efficacy-of-sinopharm-sinovac-vaccines/


Pakistan may receive Pfizer doses starting from Q4 2021. The vast majority of these doses will be delivered in 2022 and 2023. Most of the countries are not ready to wait for that long, and that is why they are going for other vaccines.

All covic vaccines lead to early grave.

Vaccines only got emergency approval because a false Hydroxychloroquine narrative was created
https://ahrp.org/how-a-false-hydroxychloroquine-narrative-was-created/

India Could Sentence WHO Chief Scientist to Death for Misleading Over Ivermectin and Killing Indians
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2021/06/india-could-sentence-who-chief-scientist-to-death-for-misleading-over-ivermectin-and-killing-indians.html

Your list is not complete what about moderna, j&j, pfizer?

They say pfizer is the best vaccine but its not really accurate unless you tried it yourself and there's less side effects but with high effectiveness.

I also heard it in the news and thinking of blood clotting side effect is really scary.

This is true! The USA is sending out many of their extra vaccines at this point, an the majority happen to be pfizer. Great for everyone, as it has the least reported side effects and highest level of effectiveness. USA has extra though cause people are choosing not to get it, an odd choice, but benefits other countries I guess, so sorta kinda virtuous in a way 

That's not the case anymore. I think USA has ample Pfizer vaccine now and they are sending it to underdeveloped countries. I am from Pakistan and we have also receive a good quantity of Pfizer vaccine.
Pakistan to receive 13m Pfizer vaccines

Just read the latest news about the vaccine that's not on your availability, Moderna.
Moderna says Covid booster shot generates promising immune response against variants found in South Africa, Brazil

Which Covid 19 Vaccine is is the best ?

Any of them that are not-used/burned/neutralized/destroyed/etc. But don't believe it until you know it is really being done.


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OP, you haven't listed many covid vaccines like Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson and some less known vaccines. Without these, your poll results won't represent anything.
Personally, I think that most us can't say which one vaccine is the best. Most of us don't have medical education and now it's nothing more than popularity contest.
3%? Did I read it right? Shouldn't it something like 30%? I tried to look for more data about this vaccine and there is lot of different numbers. From what I found, efficiency of Sinovac vaccine is between 50% and 78% according to different researches.

NEW VACCINE INFO -

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/04/993519402/pfizer-says-fda-will-soon-authorize-covid-19-vaccine-for-12-15-age-group

Vaccines will be available for 12-15 with an FDA emergency use authorization. The FDA is the US oversight agency about drugs, don't think there's been any other agencies around the world that have allowed young kids to get the vaccine (correct me if I'm wrong). This is for Pfizer's vaccine (one of the most effective out of some of the options available).

Worth noting -- this disease is NOT particularly dangerous to kids...so it's your choice whether you would like them vaccinated. Consider any side effects.

Thanks for the clarification about the demands put forward by Pfizer. For me this is just pure exploitation. Pfizer has a life saving medicine and now they are blackmailing the poor countries in return for the vaccine doses. Why should Pfizer be immune from lawsuits, if they commit criminal negligence? Personally I don't have anything against Pfizer. I am very thankful to them, for inventing the blue pill. But I have a feeling that this is not the time for them to fatten their pockets.

I would go for an mRNA vaccine.  Pfizer or Moderna.  I took Pfizer about a month ago.

BTW, covid-19 vaccines do not provide any 'protection' against covid-19 infections.  

What they do is make your immune system respond better when the infection does happen.  
So in most cases, you will not even develop any noticeable symptoms when you do get infected with covid-19.

Our immune system is in constant war with pathogens entering our bodies.  

Vaccines 'teach' the immune system how to fight against the otherwise 'unknown' pathogens.

Very few, if at all, vaccinated people will die due to covid-19 infections and the resulting complications.

Vaccines stop the spread because vaccinated people generally do not shed the virus when they do get infected.

To be a little bit more clear about what seemed to be happening in these negotiations:

Pfizer demanded that Pfizer could not get sued for negligence (including criminal negligence I believe) by the nation's court system.  Some nations had problematic legislative or constitutional text.  They were induced to rapidly modify their laws prior to inking a deal.  The collateral (military bases, bank reserves, etc) was to guarantee that Pfizer would not be found negligent in the nation's court systems and the collateral would be forfeited should that happen at some point in the future.

What we know of these deals is because negotiations fell through in Argentina and someone blabbed or leaked some of the details which were supposed to be kept secret.  It would seem probable that all countries who did ink an agreement with Pfizer did agree to those terms or something like them.

Israel has shot Pfizer to all citizens and statistics evidences the result is meeting all expectations. I would put this vaccine on the first place. The shit stuff like Sputnik that comes from Russia  I wouldn’t even consider because there’s no true telling what they put in it. A good read on how ^{pfizer-BioNTech vaccine works}.

No one knows which vaccine is best for coronavirus no vaccine is working properly The virus infection is increasing even after the second dose. The huge infrastructure development and funding that vaccine companies have been able to build for the corona vaccine will speed up the development of any subsequent virus vaccine. Scientists are working to vaccinate not only covid 19 but also 24 other deadly viruses that could cause a major epidemic from the corona doing it alone will speed up the research work.

@BADecker in government’s defence the side effects happening from the Vaccines is to be ignored because the pros outweigh the cons, and this was evidently clear when they allowed J&J vaccine to resume again. Also at this stage the best vaccine is Novavax, and I plan to take it after it’s launched.

Sources:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-is-back-what-experts-want-you-to-know

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4408574-12-reasons-novavax-beats-pfizer-for-titles-of-best-covid-vaccine-and-best-covid-vaccine-stock

Which Covid 19 Vaccine is is the best ?


That's why they have a bunch of different companies experimenting us with their virtually untested injectables. So they can find out which one is best. So far, they are only finding that they are all worse.

Check https://www.openvaers.com/ for the number of vaccine deaths and injuries reported (12,261). The devastating thing about this is that Harvard School of Medicine has been doing a more-than-10-year study that shows that only less than 1% of the injuries ever get reported to VAERS.

As of today, that means that there have been as many as more than 1,226,100 deaths from the vaccines in the USA alone.

Moderna has completely failed as far as mass production is concerned. They have produced far below their own estimates and have shipped most of the vaccine vials to the United States. Obviously the Moderna vaccine doesn't need deep freezing at -70 degrees Celsius, but they have produced less vials when compared to Pfizer. Even in the US (where Moderna shipped almost all of their doses), Pfizer outnumber Moderna by 40 million doses or so.

Moderna vaccine is about as effective and can be stored at lower temperatures, so it might be easier to get depending on where you live. Quick check around me shows that smaller pharmacies tend to have Moderna or J&J, less often Pfizer.

I think there are already more corona vaccines than the above. Unfortunately I don't see any real comparisons between them. What I do know is that we have seen deaths after the AstraZeneca vaccine, so I would put them on the bottom of any list. The Pfizer vaccine seems to have really good results, but you need to it twice. The Johnson and Johnson vaccine only has one injection which makes it the most attractive in my opinion. Only having side effects for one day and being done with it would be the best.

ROFL.. this is a purely politically motivated poll. I am not a big fan of Western pharmaceutical companies, but from the available data it is clear that the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna have the highest efficacy (>95%). The OP hasn't included them in the poll, probably to favor his pick. On the other hand, the Sinovac vaccine has a single-dose efficiency of just 3%, according to a study performed by Universidad de Chile.

I don't think that world health organization have a calculated list of covid19 vaccines that is highly reactive to the system, now looking at the stuff all around the world no one can testify that this particular vaccine is highly expensive or important than others, really the one we are using in my residence which is the primary health centre is working perfectly because no one has complain about it's reaction towards humans.

Pfizer-BioNTech is probably the best vaccine out there but then it depends upon where you live. Not all vaccines are available in all parts of the world. It depends your government will import which vaccine and you can only use that vaccine. Better not to inject any vaccine and try to improve your anti bodies through fruits and healthy diets.

Legends chasing the virus out of town (the video of it pure gold)

I totally agree with the point of view of @BADecker but this thread is for those who think that vaccine has some weightage to protect against covid-19 and if you need to choose between the vaccines, which one will you prefer ?

If you do not  prefer vaccine at all, then that's is your preference and choice too. No offence with it.

The placebo.

One of the reasons for the scamdemic was to expedite the testing of new technologies without the hassle of doing it with pre-new-normal safety protocols involving animal studies and all that problematic stuff.  I mean the last stab and coronavirus vaccine failed because all the animals died.  Who needs that kind of bullshit slowing things down?

The new fake pandemic method is a lot cheaper also since in the old-normal you had to pay trial participants for their services and insure them in case of damage.  As implemented in the 'new normal' all elements of corp/gov are off the hook and the trail victims eat ALL the losses.  So, the various re-tooled gene therapy techniques in common use as so-called 'vaccines' vary wildly, but can still be put into families (mRNA, DNA, etc.)

There are several technologies that people wanted to try out and which actually did get a blast of funding mid 2019 (interestingly enough) but have been dropped.  These include:

 - Imperial College's 'self amplifying RNA'.  Seems as or more dangerous as the DNA ones (AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Sputnik-V, etc) in a Sorcerers Apprentice sort of way.

 - Various 'VLP' ('Virus-Like Particle') vaccines:  These seem to have the potential to be made in cleaner environments than traditional inactivate virus vaccines which would be a good thing, and they also don't hijack and re-program the ribosomes to create designer proteins which is a great thing.  Hopefully that technology will evolve and make other existing vaccines safer.

 - Australian 'molecular clamp':  The principle is that it 'freezes' proteins in an intermediate form for long enough for the immune system to get a better read on them and thus create a stronger immune response.  It would appear that this very novel technique has the advantages of the VLP techniques and also that it might reduce the need for generalized adjuvants that are obviously associated with the dismal safety profile of most current vaccines.

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There is no reason to believe that the current 'jabs' of one labeled substance is the same thing in different regions.  Or even from jab to jab.  When the tetanus jab was being used as a covert sterilant targeting the hCG hormone in women in low income countries a few decades ago, something like one in four was a different thing and it came from a specialty lab in Canada.  That's the way these people roll when using 'vaccines' as a cover for different agendas.

It's worth note that 'Sinopharm' (not 'SinoVac') is given out in tiny quantities for higher level government officials in some countries.  When it is sold to Japanese corporate CEO's it is advertised as not being a 'normal vaccine which makes one's arm hurt'.  That's the kind of jab I'm looking for...and I'd pay in Bitcoin

None of the above. I would choose Pfizer BioNTech all the way since I have seen a lot of great responses about this vaccine. That is though if I were to have the luxury to choose what vaccine I want to be injected in me. But if it is not available, then I'd gladly take whatever is on the table since I am not doing it for myself alone but for my family, friends and loved ones. Not getting vaccinated will only result in having more cases so better not be picky if the vaccines available are capable and reputable enough.

Sputnik-V and Astrazeneca do have a bad reputation right now, so it is definitely not part of the bests. Sputnik-V is even proven to be not safe, so beware.

Probably different depending on circumstances.

J&J is single dose, which could be an advantage.
AZ is easily transportable as it doesn't require extreme refrigeration. Probably a good choice for countries or regions where this could be an issue.
Cost could be a factor for poorer countries; AZ is I think the cheapest.

... but then AFAIK Pfizer and Moderna are the most effective.

Reliability of the manufacturing process would also play a part. If you place an order for 50m with 2 companies, one company gives you 50m and the other company only gives you 20m... then the quantity trumps the minor quality differences.

Pfizer BioNTech - Upwards of 90 percent effectiveness on the first shot, 95% effectiveness on the second shot. Best vaccine out there right now.

J&J is a one shot vaccine, effective 80 percent of the time. Good runner up.

Astrazena has some blood clotting issues, maybe, that caused it to be banned in Denmark, so unless you're extra paranoid, it should be fine but maybe not the best choice.

Sputnik do not touch with a 10 foot pole. Skipped clinical trials and you shouldn't trust the Russians for anything.

you are calling the greatest activist against vaccines in the world, this guy @BADecker, stay close to some tranquilizer and glass of water and don't read everything he posts on your thread. he will used all pointless arguments to devalue vaccines

We have few variants of vaccine namely Sputnik - V, Sinopham , Astrazeneca, CanSino BIO and Sinovac.  
Which of these Covid 19 Vaccine is the best with least side effects and more effective protection against covid-19 ?