Topic: Which hosting or domain name providers does shady gambling sites use? (Read 163 times)

They surely has the data of the clients but most of the data that they get is fake data as most of such shady businesses use fake KYC details to begin their shady business.

It means that anyone can register a site on some domain provider's and they won't know anything about the customers even if they are the shady ones. I believe you're right the case can be true for the shady casinos but it's strange that the domain name providers allow such sites to exist, but it's also not their fault as they can't check each and every user who register domain via such sites.

You're actually right, I also thought that and yes money plays very important role for such hosting providers who allow such sites to host their data on their servers. I have also noticed that such hosts may get some legal problems in future but it's still not going to happen anytime soon. If we look at the hosts or sites that allow unlimited file sharing then we can see many copyrighted material on those sites but out of 100 only few get seized by authorities.

I'm quite sure that many people who have information about internetbs.net and they know how to contact them might have tried their best to report sites like the ones mentioned in OP but still such sites never get down. I believe the domain provider might allow some premium members to be immune from any such reports.

It doesn't matter which domain name they use, in the past I have this hate for any websites or platform with names like .biz and others, I only trust dot com and dot org but later I found out that it doesn't always matter.

A well funded scammer can decide to spend good amount of money on .com website and still scam a lot of people, this should not be your way of avoid scam projects and casinos, you will hurt yourself if care is not taken, it's like trusting the name instead of looking up into the team. Which is better to bet on? The name or who the teams are? I know this advice is out of gambling but there isn't much of a difference.

If you want to know more about a casino you need to find reviews online and information about how long the casino has been in business, the reputation built over time is the most important part when doing research on a casino.

Domain and hosting service providers will never know about it so even if you report it it will be difficult for them to close and flag it, you don't have to go far to find out about them. You must have seen 1xbit advertisements on several crypto sites, has anyone reported it that they are Fraudulent sites, I don't think there are any in fact they still display advertisements on several crypto sites I have often mentioned in the 1xbit thread, maybe there are many others.

Actually, for domain and hosting service providers they have rules and requirements so it might be difficult to report them, there's no need to stop them by just finding out where the service provider is, I don't think it's important for you to know, but if you really want 1xbit to be stopped you should report it on any crypto site that still advertises 1xbit and tell them about this site it is very dangerous to promote, I'm sure they will stop it, but in fact we only stop 1xbit's movements on this forum.  

Well said OP, and I appreciate your concern. Well, the internet these days is so porous to the extent that there are a lot of bad ways to penetrate and register unnoticed, while the hosts of many domains are evil themselves, they know what they are doing and would have collected a huge sum of money for it. I believe the government is not focusing their business in that direction yet which is why you see them harbouring the bad sites so long as they can pay for it and get away with it.

I believe that the internet should be more regulated to curb a lot of things, especially every domain possible including the hosts. Casinos, for example, do virtually everything you can think of and get away with it, especially those without the .com, .org and .net, you can never trust them. They can do and undo and get away with it. Even the 1xBit case you share is the least of it all, also, there are some that still campaign here that should never be trusted for any reason.

If they have the opportunity, they will defraud people more. We need to be careful and note that fraudulent casinos will not even have a regulator. Some might pretend, but they will just hide under it, it is not real. The fact that the regulation and checkings in Curacao are not strong, casinos rush there while some that claim they are being regulated by it are only lying. But the government of Curacao is too weak to check all these. I repeat, let us all be careful, the internet is not always what we see.

The hosting provider will not know if one of its customers will use its hosting for things related to illegal things or even scams. They only provide hosting services to all their customers. But if there are complaints from people about one of their customers, the hosting provider will warn the customer to move their hosting to another location immediately.

Hosting providers don't want their business to suffer and be accused of protecting scam casinos. And they will act firmly against customers who try to break their rules. We will not know what the hosting provider will do, whether they will ask their customers to look for another hosting provider or the hosting provider will pretend not to listen to people's complaints.

The business of domains trading isn't an easy one and the last thing you want is asking everyone that wants to buy/rent a domain if this will be involved in any shady business, imagine if they did how their sales numbers would look ...besides getting a website up and running requires several other resources besides the domain name.. hosting service is another which might be actually more important than the URL if anything 

At this point it's safe to say these guys don't give a sh*t on what you do with this as they are only interested in the money 💸 💸 💰 only person to be worried about are the regulators in the jurisdiction of business...

Interesting question, I don't think there are some specific web hosting companies offering service exclusively to questionable gambling companies. I mean, a web hosting company doesn't have to check if their customers' businesses are not scams. As long as there are not obvious criminals (phishing, kiddy po*n and similar stuff) that is. So, in most cases, for a web hoster it's just another customer, a business opportunity. 

I don't think that is part of their scope as what they do is something like selling a domain or name and it doesn't matter for them what they do, though I'm not sure if you reported the site they will close it down. I'm not really sure about their terms and condition but I think it would be bad for their reputation if they will close the site that bought from them even if they do shady things, maybe... if there's it's really a serious allegation that the government require them to shut down the site (legal things that asked them to close it), that's the only time they will shut it down.

Again, not an expert just my thoughts.

You can use Whois to check the domain registrar and the host of a site in the case of 1xbit here is the domain info
https://www.whois.com/whois/1xbit1.com
Domain:1xbit1.com
Registrar:Internet Domain Service BS Corp
Registered On:2018-05-10
Expires On:2024-05-10


All domain registrars are compliant with the regulatory board and they have their own privacy policy and terms of conditions all their clients are subject to termination if they violate what's on their terms
Please check https://internetbs.net/en/termsandconditions.html see C. OTHER ILLEGAL OR PROHIBITED USE

If there are valid cases then you can contact them through their contact page and present evidence of the violation
https://internetbs.net/en/contact.html

No domain is immune or protected from cancellation the complainant should just present their evidences of abuse properly

I don't think that gamblers are going to be interested to look at who is hosting who as far as this crypto based gambling site. I mean literally you can just register any names you want from this hosting company and they will readily give it to you regardless of what niche is it although the name itself could have a hint on what it is or what is should be.

So they don't care if you as owners and registrant of the website run a scam latter and chooses not to play your customers. This is also the same case with thousands of scam sites that we have right now. As long as they pay good money to this hosting domain, even if it obvious that it's shady in this case, they don't care, sad but true.

I think it's just a difference in the way the law works vs the way people/users view the casino? On the 1xbit case, for example, they're still allowed to publish their platform even with all the accusations that happen, I reckon it's something similar to how in the ToS, most casinos have the right to prevent the winner from getting their money due to "shady" events that the session was involved with or the source of the money itself, which is bs most of the time, but hey, it's in their ToS and users that signed up did agree to that.

As far as I know, the shady hosting provider just wants to get your money without thinking about what are you doing. they will provide the services whatever you want if you put a lot of money on their table. so we don't be surprised if today we can easy fund a lot of scam or phishing sites that are circulating out there without any clear supervision from the institution. This is also made easier by developers who share their code on GitHub which can easy to fork by another scamer to duplicate the code, then after make it similar, then the scammer just rent a hosting provider to running it.

The online name registrar and hosting services are quite a different part of the internet, and most often don't bother about what a site is being used for. The host can only have control of taking down the site, but can't take the domain name. So if the host takes down the site, which is rare, the casino can still move their contents and site templates to another host and continue from where they stopped. But the domain extension of some scam projects is mainly.XYZ hardly uses .com because the domain king .com is mainly taken oftentimes. So, for phishing sites they won't be able to get the actual name of the site they'll want to deceive their customers. However, any name can be used to run phishing. But gamblers are always wary of visiting sites that don't end with .com or .io extensions. Those other domain name extensions for official businesses like gambling don't sit right with many people.

I've seen many other gambling scam sites still existing and running ads on blockchain explorers. We should be bothered about why the advertisers take ads from scam casino projects. The hosting services are quite too far from doing the job of taking down a site, the law enforcement agencies are better at handling such reports. Due to the shadiness of the internet market, not all hosts can take down a site easily, even with lots of proof. They can assume that a competitor may have used the strategy to remove another site. And if hosting services easily took down sites, many internet services may have been offering such services for people who want to hurt their competitors. Scam sites have lots of offshore hosts to host their sites that may not bother about taking down the site. Don't think it'll be necessary to name such hosts, as I'm not sure about their terms of service or why they delay shutting down such phishing sites. But, if you'd want to know I'd advise you to check some fake site scanners and look them up on WHOis.

The gambler mostly doesn’t like to share their kyc for many reasons,one is the fact is the co gambler may be his relative or friends.So his connecting relationship will come to know about the gambling win,So he will do ask of loan from the winner.In avoiding of giving loan after the win the gambler doesn’t like to give the loan to his relatives or friends most of the time.Consider the good gambling site,instead of playing the games in the 1xbit.Because it’s scam website,many people had created the thread against the 1xbit gambling site.Instead use of the good gambling site to use the real money.

Hosting providers do not or rarely check what their hosting is rented for, so anyone can extend the hosting and domain they purchased if there is no prohibition from the police or law enforcement. Additionally, 1xbit still seems to be running and is only considered a scam on this forum, I still see 1xbit on casino review sites. I've never played on 1xbit so don't know what's going on with them

Regarding KYC issues, it is actually easy to manipulate. We can use fake data or use other people's data. Even though KYC is a protection to find out who is behind an account, there are still many ways to cheat KYC

This is not often discussed alot online and offline. I am happy that such a topic has been brought up. It will make other gamblers who read this know that online gambling is more than just the games on the casino websites and the interface, the domain and hosting provided are the backend and part of it too.

On this subject of domain,I am learning that a scam or shady online casino doesn't start with withholding the winnings of their customers but from their hosting and domain name providers and where they choose to pick their license from.

Gambling is not globally banned. So gambling sites that want to get at least some level of accreditation will be able to do it under schemes that are more adapted to online gambling and therefore more permissive.
By going on who.is you can see that major websites use mainstream services like name cheap for domains and cloud flair for hosting:

https://who.is/whois/stake.com

So really there is nothing shady going on here. Gambling site operators aren't under pressure to have their domains seized that much it seems so they use the services anyone would use for a regular site.

I'm sure it must be a cheap domain. here the cheapest is .my.id, yes you often see it in slot gambling where usually there are lots of sites that use this domain. In just a few months they will be caught cheating. I know that because the domain is cheap. It's not uncommon for them to use a possibly free subdomain for their slot website. I'm not at all interested in playing there even if the ad sponsors say it always hits the jackpot for new users.

To start with, in this present state, any company can form any fake details that could be used to pass KYC, and they can use that to get licenced in any other place that they want to provide service to.
 
In the aspect of why those domain providers will still want to allow them to process their subscription and renew the plan, the thing is, they will.
 
1Xbit has been tagged scammed in this forum, but has any regulatory body been able to file a case against them that you are aware of? I don't think I have read of such, and domain providers are also there to make money, and that is their business.

They can't just deny their customers service unless a higher authority files for that to happen. Unless such happens, I can't see them denying casinos that have been tagged as scams.

I don’t have experience with domain registrars or hosting sites but this part of your post caught my attention.

I remember back when I was still part of Unijoin sig campaign and we found some clones that were posing as the original site and when we contacted the registrar about the site; it turned out that they had no idea that those sites were phishing sites and that’s should also be true for shady casino sites— it’s possible that the hosting site has no idea about what is going on or what they are doing to their customers so unless someone creates an actual report against them they won’t be able to do anything. I know that the domain registrar would take down a site that they are hosting if it turns out to be a phishing site but I’m not sure if that’s possible for one that’s doing selective scamming.

is there a domain registrar that is not asking KYC? those days are over already. they may be able to hide it from who.is but with a fee, anyone can get the information needed to identify owners. offshore hosting companies will be able to host this kind of casino. they are the ones used by torrent sites too.

the ICANN i think also has all the data of those people not just the registrar. those hosting and registrar are also into business so they will allow renewals and all until authorities will contact them.

Today, when I was browsing the service discussion board I found a thread created by a Hero member where he was asking about good hosting providers that doesn't require KYC. I didn't feel to reply there because others users have already answered the question and OP found his web host with the help of those members.

But something came in my mind after reading that thread that which hosting providers and domain name providers those shady gambling websites use. Most of us know the shady websites like 1xBit for their shady activities and we also know that they got license from countries like Curacao but does anyone knows that which hosting providers and which domain name providers such gambling sites use.

All those gambling sites had to use some domain name registrar that registered those domain names for those shady sites and they all need some kind of hosting plains in order to make their site accessible to everyone but the question is that which domain name providers or hosting companies allow such sites to host their domains or register their domain and renew those domains even if they have been tagged for their shady activities.