Topic: Which is more profitable trading ETH/USD or ETH/BTC (Read 524 times)

added with the fact that sometime USDT pair usually have more liquidity, and yes I think so too that calculating become harder with a lot of decimals for the convenient sake of exchange could come up with solution to embed dollar worth value side by side with the btc value it will be solved, but i guess some people also prefer stablecoin because the stablecoin itself hardly fluctuate by high margin within short amount of time.

I personally has always been using stablecoin trading pair for simplicity sake but can't deny the fact that bitcoin is definitely way to go for bagging cryptocurrencies because its capability of always reaching new heights of price level.
but in the case of simplicity sake, stablecoin might be more effective in this regard, not to mention the fact that we already used with the nominal of fiat in daily life.

When it comes to the question on which one is profitable then it would really be depending on your risk appetite.
Why? If you are willing that you would really be risking out on accumulating Bitcoin and turns out that the price had risen up
then it would really be a win-win situation yet the profit you do able to earn did really able to increase its price on which means that a double profit for you.
Whereas if you are really that tending to make pair with a stable coin then it would really be just that fixed. If you are that someone who is really that
loving on securing things then this would really be your preferred spot. You could really be able to save up yourself with volatility if you do have Stablecoin pair.

Its up to your own choice which pair you would really be taking because if you do want on having that fixed profit then you would be sticking with USD
since its value is really that fixed but if you are someone whose accumulating Bitcoin then btc pair would be your best shot.
it would be all according into your preference or something that you are dealing with.

Without a doubt this is problematic, we are so used to think in terms of fiat currencies that it makes thinking in terms of bitcoin and other currencies kind of difficult, this is why in the case of bitcoin I think in terms of mBTC and not on BTC directly, as one mBTC is roughly worth 37 dollars at the moment, so if I want to send 10 dollars worth of bitcoin I know I have to send roughly a third of one mBTC, so while not perfect I can give myself an idea of how much bitcoin I need to send at first glance.

more or less the same with this, stablecoin as trading pair just give better estimation therefore it it just feels a lot more convenient in my opinion, like if you entry with capital of $20,000 and comes out with profit around $22,000 you know you have 2k surplus as a profit, but with btc determining that might be quite difficult even more so if the reason of increase is because of bitcoin price.
moreover at the end of the day if we want to truly accumulate bitcoin we could just simply convert the profit that we get from trading into BTC and call it a day.
in my opinion whatever is more convenient just use that.

trading eth/btc, you're basically tracking how ETH stacks up against Bitcoin. it's pair digital currencies, so similar stuff tends to affect them. Like certain news, hacking exchange or trends might push them both up or down at the same time. On the other hand, if you're looking at eth/usd you're comparing ethereum to real-world cash like US dollar. Stuff that messes with the dollar, like decisions from the US Federal Reserve (Feed), could shake up this pairing. But, what really matters ain't just about which pair you pick, but how you make close for profits. Don't problem if you has little profits, you just need time and experience for that.

trading against unstable coin it seems very difficult to calculating profit or lose to me,
i am trading with matic & eth and i see it is extra stress specially in quick entry or sell when it's take time to calculate.
i am familiar to use usdt pair always and i think mostly people's do that. and also i think against unstable coin trading can not be more profitable from stable coin.

I think we I should prefer the Eth/USDC because on the one side you are going to hold the USDC even it is stable and may be you can get loss from just one side and that may be Ethereum. But in the case of Eth/BTC then there will be two coins that are mostly volatile in nature and you can get a loss even.

Better to go for a trade in Eth/USDC this is the way you can minimize the loss in the pair and the trade you are going to made will be smooth on one side. While in the other pair there will be a little risk.

I prefer ETH/BTC. Because it both terms your quantity of coins increase. Both coins are top coins of the crypto market. And its very good idea to invest in these coins for long term and we can also do trading for earning profit. If btc price increases, the eth coin price also increases, So, if you are holding eth or btc, don't worry about loss. Invest in both of these coins for long term.

Yes, considering today's market conditions and answering the OP's question it was a more logical to give an example and answer with a positive scenario, just like in my first comment. However, if we need to answer by taking all conditions into consideration, it is necessary to consider what could happen in case of a possible negative scenario which I stated in my second comment. In general, considering the OP's question and current market conditions it would be more accurate to interpret it through a positive scenario.

Moreover, as you mentioned if we have to make an evaluation according to today's market conditions it wouldn't be right to think of bad scenarios for now. Of course, it is also very important to act knowing that the market can always reverse and all the possible scenarios can happen.

They are both profitable, but I think it's better to do a day trade in ETH. I say this based on my experience in the trading activity I do, so that I can move faster with ETH compared to Bitcoin.

Then I get more profit in ETH compared to Bitcoin. Although I'm not saying that Bitcoin is ugly, of course that's not my point. I just don't know about others, because others find them more beautiful in Bitcoin. Maybe it depends just on the knowledge you have about crypto trading; it's just that likely.

Actually, those coins will depend on the USD rate and the BTC of it so still depends on you how you manage to deal with the market volatility of those pairs, in just my cents if you can make a ride with the market price movement deal with it no too much advice if you can do it at your own. People always grab the buy and sell pressure small profit still consider a profit so its up to you if you want a big percentage just to share to your profile or just enough to call a day as a profit.

To this I will add that that not only the margins of profit will be smaller on the BTC/ETH market but that the number of trades you will have the chance to make are lower as well, so it is better for people to trade the ETH/USD market instead as this will present much better opportunities, while it will also allow you to get out of the market once the bear market starts, a movement that is critical if you want to keep the profits you have accumulate during the bull run.

I feel like the near future looks quite bullish, this is why we tend to look for the situation to be a bit more positive, and that is why it is normal to think about the bullish period. Plus, OP mentions "profitable" which means that it makes people think about the bullish period a lot more. I think it should be noted that we are talking about a situation that is not going to be all that simple, because usd and eth are good for very different periods. I am not saying that it is not going to end up with a bad situation, there could be moments when it is bad, or I could be totally wrong and it doesn't go well at all.

However, if you look at the market right now, and check out the few months we had so far, I would be easily saying that it has been great and will continue to do that. In that case, if the price keeps being bullish like it has been so far, then I am going to guess that it is going to be as great as it gets and you will be right to pick that pair.

Of course, this applies to the negative scenario just as it does to the positive scenario. Although I only mentioned the positive scenario in my comment because the content is based on a positive scenario, a similar situation will also apply to the negative scenario. For this reason, it is always beneficial to choose the transaction parity to be preferred by taking into consideration the market conditions. In addition, it shouldn't be forgotten that in the event of a possible negative scenario if Bitcoin dominance becomes high and Bitcoin loses value there will be a loss both on Bitcoin basis and USD basis due to parity (like a double loss). Certainly, choosing transaction parity considering both scenarios will minimize possible risks.

Both ETH/BTC and ETH/USD pairs have their own opportunities and risks but they can both be profitable. But in the ETH/BTC pair both asset are strongly correlated and tied because they are both crypto asset. So for me it's less easy to make profit with this pair. You can only make some when you think one crypto, BTC or ETH, will outperform the other one. While with the ETH/USD pair, you just need to monitor the overall crypto market to know if you can place long or short orders.

Every person has their own choice in trading and things that are good for me do not mean that I will also be good for everyone. Everyone follows their strategy and makes a choice which is best for him or her. We will just give our opinion to you and the choice will be yours. USDT is a stable coin and did not suddenly but is stable and did not change, if you are seeking stability find a stable coin and less chance of loss USDT is best but remember that it cannot give you high profits as BTC did. While in the other hand, BTC is not a stable coin and is very volatile instead if you choose BTC there is high risk but the more the risk the greater the profits.  Now it is to you what you want to select but my suggestion is Bitcoin if you do want to waste your money and time then invest in the n bitcoin instead of USD

Yes, you will get an additional profit when trading the ETH/BTC pair if the market is in a bullish phase. But if you continue to trade this pair when the market changes to bearish, then your profit will be significantly reduced, and perhaps even reduced in dollar equivalent.

If you know the coins very well and analysis it correctly, then you can success by any coin. You can invest in both ETH/USD or ETH/BTC or any coins. I invest in such coins which give me profit for long or short time.

Reference to ETH/BTC and ETH/USD daily timeframe it's obvious that latter is profitable when traded based on it Price movement which trended massively whether in a bullish or bearish run and the fact that ETH is paired with a stable coin reduces the time to analyze the price movement of ETH and BTC separately, personally I took my time to analyze price movement of crypto pairs with crypto/USDT of which are majority of stable coin pairs on Binance they are well tradeable infact they are majority of traded pair compared to crypto pairs thus focus your attention on them as well as trade them, moreso they usually form regular candlestick patterns which can aid a trader to take trading decision.

Maximizing the profit margin for a trade varies entirely depending on the preferred financial product. For example, let's assume there is a 5% increase in ETH/USD parity. This means that you will earn 5% in USD (excluding commissions). If there is a 5% increase in the BTC/USD parity, the ETH/BTC parity will remain at almost the same price since both of them increase at the same rate. The only way to gain more than 5% using the ETH/BTC parity is with an increase below 5% in the BTC/USD parity. That is, it will be possible to earn more profits depending on the unit of the preferred parity.

Another possibility is to evaluate the mobility in the ETH/BTC parity and obtain a profit margin on Bitcoin basis. In this way, since the profit will be earned in Bitcoin it will be possible to earn profit with the increases in Bitcoin price. For example, let's assume that 1 Bitcoin is gained with ETH/BTC parity. At this point, if there is a 10% increase in the Bitcoin price an extra 10% gain in USD will be obtained. In other words, in order to maximize the profit margin by trading with ETH/BTC parity both Ethereum must gain more value compared to Bitcoin and Bitcoin must gain value on a USD basis.

In summary, there is always the potential to earn more profits depending on the preferred transaction parity but if a parity such as ETH/BTC is preferred both Ethereum and Bitcoin must gain value on a USD basis in order to maximize the profit margin. Additionally, the fact that Ethereum has gained more value compared to Bitcoin is also important in order to gain maximum profit from this parity.

Trading using the ETH/USD and ETH/BTC methods is the same, the profit you get is not based on USD/BTC, you can get profits based on ETH price movements, the profit of USD/BTC for you is the change value, when compared with the value of USD/BTC just the same.

If you ask which is more profitable trading BTC/USD with ETH/USD, there may be an answer, which definitely depends on how many percent BTC and ETH rise.

Your question can be said as a partner, not a profit, those are two different things, a partner and a different version of profit.

Trading is not really a matter of the currency pair or the coin pair which you trade but rather it is based on you the trader applying the right strategy or depends on the strategy that you are using to trade. You can have the right pair to trade, for instance, BTC/USD, and still lose money because you are not using the right trading strategy to short or long that particular future contract.

In my opinion, as a preparation for the halving and bullrun in the future, I prefer the ETH/BTC pair. Like once rowing 2 islands crossed. When we get profits in the form of BTC from trading ETH, we will also get profits from the increase in Bitcoin prices. This is a kind of doubling of profits in my opinion, if our focus is on pursuing the value of Bitcoin. However, this depends on the trader's perception and amount of capital or the investment itself. If the capital is large and what you are looking for is USDT profit, ETH/USDT is not a problem, but because I am oriented towards long-term BTC investment, I will choose ETH/BTC, I can sell BTC and save the rest if I need USDT.

From this advice, you know that whatever pair you choose, it completely depends on your goals, your needs, and your wants. But I am going to say that it completely depends on the strategy that you're holding and going to use in this market. Strategy plays a very important role here in choosing which pair suits you best. Because some people play safely with stable coins and take long-term profits. But there are other people who are willing to take risks and give it a shot at short-term trading with sudden profits. But here, both options are almost good coins to me, so you can choose according to which option can give you the most profit and based on your strategy.

Most of the time in the short run market tends to move based on sentiments. Many news, many events could cause the price to pump or dump. Bitcoin has no direct connection with any kind of alt coins but with the sentiments involved, price tend to move with Bitcoin's price movement. So if you pair ETH with Bitcoin they are both going to be volatile and good potentially move in the same direction. You are making profit in a way but you are also losing the other way.

Also, there is the complexity of counting profits or losses. It becomes difficult to know the exact amount when you are dealing with something that has no stable value. It could be time-consuming and difficult. I never prefer anything else but stable coin while doing trading. Maybe I'm lazy or I like the easy route. But one can choose whatever they are comfortable with. It's all about giving it a try and sticking with the one that you feel like is the best for you.

Ever since that I got into crypto trading, I have never tried trading alts to alts in spot trading due to the uncontrollable price movement of both.

Both of these pairs have risks but I am not comfortable trading altcoin to altcoin due to it's instability as I may find difficulties in measuring both profits and losses.

I always pair BTC and ETH with stablecoins for spot trading to minimize the risks. Very risky for me if I were in your shoes with the ETH/BTC pairing as it'll be a disappointing result once both prices are dropping and gonna be out of control.

But if you are skilled enough to trade and acknowledging the risks in alt-to-alt spot trading, then you can give it a try. Ain't giving you financial or investment advice here.

Experience will always be your best teacher.

BTC pairs can only be profitable when altcoins outperform bitcoin which happens occasionally. The only time altcoins outperform bitcoin is when the bitcoin price makes a new ATH in a bull run and starts moving sideways for a few days. This is the time when the altcoin market makes a rally and bitcoin dominance goes down which causes altcoin to outperform bitcoin. This happens once in a 4 year cycle. There can be mini alt rallies, but those are not that significant to mention.

There is no difference in which coin you get a profit. But in a bull market, your profit will be greater if you trade ETH/BTC, since the value of coins will constantly increase and thereby increase your profit. And accordingly, in a bear market, it will be more profitable to trade in a pair with a stablecoin.

In my opinion, advice like that is also more appropriate because it will make it easier for us to calculate every profit and loss that we experience when trading. Because most traders prefer a way that makes it easier for them to trade, choosing the ETH/USD or BTC/USD pair is better than pairing it with an unstable cryptocurrency. Apart from that, there are many cryptocurrencies from various exchanges that are paired with stable coins so that it will make it easier for traders when they want to move their assets from one exchange to another.

For me i go with trading ETH/USD since one is a coin and the other is fiat, in which it is balance in a way if eth in general is dropping USD is stable, as for ETH/BTC is risky in the sense if eth is dropping and btc is dropping as well you will be in a very big mess.

It's not preferable to use Bitcoin to measure Ethereum due to its instability and potential difficulty in determining profit and loss. We have to use reliable currencies like USDC, USDT, or BUSD instead, as time is crucial in trading. If you use reliable currencies like USDC, USDT, or BUSD it will make you to avoid these issues and ensure accurate trading outcomes.

You can profit on both sides, depending on which you desire. However, it is preferable to utilize usdt pair over btc pair because usdt is a stable coin and you are just dependent on the price of ETH, whereas btc pair requires you to consider not only eth but also btc. So, for me, it's a lot of hassle, very unpredictable, and has a poor profit potential compared to the USDT pair because I believe in Bitcoin's dominance. If you're familiar with successful crypto traders, you'll notice that they frequently use the USDT pair, but still up to your preference.

This is the right answer, when people start to trade this market they need to be as honest as they can with themselves, do they want to earn more fiat or more bitcoin? And depending to the answer they give to that question they can choose the best trading pairs they can to achieve this, so it is obvious that someone that is looking to increase their fiat holdings needs to trade against them as this is the easiest way to track their progress, while someone that is interested in getting more bitcoin as they are thinking on keeping those coins for the long term should instead look for trading pairs that include bitcoin.

The pairs you share,it depend on each other's investment.Some are comfortable in ETH/BTC, some are comfortable in ETH/USD.I think it depends on market conditions. Since USD is the stable currency, many investors will invest in ETH/USD to avoid volatility. Some are investing in both.These are very common topics in trading so there is no need to divide them into separate sections. Every investor invests on both coins.Everyone holds USD when the market conditions are volatile and holds BTC when the market is good.

Look at Ethereum /Bitcoin (ETH/BTC) price chart and you will find an answer.

ETH/BTC history. In 2018 bull run of Ethereum, it got a highest value on market in ETH/BTC when 1 ETH was exchanged to about 0.15 BTC. Now, you see how it is lower than in 2018 considerably.

If you want to invest in Ethereum, invest in it with your fiat currency or stable coin, don't sell your bitcoin or use your bitcoin to buy Ethereum. It is true for all altcoins.

I think that it will depend on your strategy.
But for me, I prefer to use pairing ETH/USD than /BTC. Because using BTC pairing will be quite risky for me, moreover if I am willing to have it for the long term. In addition, USD is more stable so we will know the up and down price at least. On other hand, we also need to consider the fee of trading using the pairing. Sometimes, there will be different rates or fees in some exchanges. But sometimes, it is lower or the same.

Traders have their favorite pairs they like to trade and the one they feel gives them the most profit. From the pairs you shared, I think it depends on the volatility of the market. That's when you can make profit from the ETH/BTC pair, but trading ETH/UST means you're trading a volatile asset for a stable one, which will allow you to buy more of the ETH if the price drops more than your sold price. I would rather trade a volatile crypto against a stablecoin than trade two volatile pairs.

^ That is right, it depends on your analysis and of course, it also depends on the market situation.
Most likely, people use stablecoin pair when they saw the market going down and when it will go up they will use high volatile coin pair so that they will generate profit. We cannot say which is more profitable among them because it depends on us how to decide on which pair we use. After all, we have different analyses used in trading. I think I would with a high-risk pair, ETH/BTC would be a great choice.

It's all about your analysis honestly. There is no correct answer to this. The pair you'll get a better trading grip on first should be your go to trading pair. ETH/USD is generally easy to trade as you have to trade with the market while ETH/BTC hasn't been that volatile lately as BTC and ETH have too much correlation with each other these days lately. So i think ETH/ USD is naturally better.

It depends on the preferences of each trader. Those trading pairs are an option traders can take advantage of, but I also tend to use stable coins as my trading pairs including USDT and BUSD. ETH is also great to use as trading pair, but its price volatility is also a concern. If they are expecting to earn more ETH, then this trading pair is a good one to consider.

Both trading options have a high potential for profit, but there is also a risk of losing your trading capital. Rather than focusing solely on the coins or pairs, it is critical to prioritize developing trading skills and understanding the market. Profitability as a trader stems from understanding how the market works. It should be noted that eth/btc is more volatile than eth/USD.

Trading cryptocurrencies is like jumping into a sea of sharks blindfolded with a sack of gold. Every decision you make is a chance to either swim to the top or sink to the bottom. It's a wild ride that can take you to the top of the world or leave you in the gutter.

As you know, trading two coins against each other is like playing chess with yourself. But you must remember that emotions can be your biggest ally or your worst enemy. It's like trying to keep a boat afloat during a storm, with emotions pulling in all directions.

So when you're trading altcoins, don't forget that the numbers are only half the story. Understanding the complex human psychology and market forces that govern the cryptocurrency world is crucial. Taking calculated risks and being prepared to pivot when the going gets tough is the key to success

I guess it all depends on the purpose of the trade being made. other than to make a profit. Traders usually have other plans. such as trading to increase their Bitcoin quantity. then they will choose a Bitcoin pair for their trade.
but for traders who plan to withdraw profits in fiat, or hold stable assets. of course, their choice is trading with USDT pair. it will be safer even though stable assets are also affected by Bitcoin fluctuations in the market even though their value will not be as large as altcoins.

Without a strategy, trading is not considered profitable in any way, and if profits are made, they will be temporary.
The trading strategy will determine which direction you prefer, and the market situation governs the extent of profits. When the volatility in Bitcoin decreases, the stable currency pair is the best, and vice versa.

So don't think of it as black and white, but rather that at certain times one pair is better than the other and vice versa.

Investing at rejection region using  ETH/BTC pair and move to ETH/USD when price stable

USD is stable whereas BTC and ETH price varies in each and every second. So now if you consider a trading pair whose both values changes a lot, then the chances of getting more profit increases here. But you need to also make sure that, along with more profits, the chance of getting more loss also increases. If I was in place of you, then I would have gone for trading with ETH/USD or BTC/USD. I don’t want to take high risks and gamble during the trades. Basically the choice will completely vary from person to person. So choose wisely OP.

Both can be profitable if you know how to trade well.
But if you don't have enough skills to do both, trading ETH/USDT will be better for you because at least you can see the price movement.
You can buy at a low price and sell at a high price which is always the case and can give you a profit.
But if you do futures trading, both can be profitable depending on the choice of entry to the market.
But for trading in the future, you need more skills to be able to set in the right direction.

USD is dollar (not stablecoin) not but it is also stable. I think there's also stable coin paring for some cryptos. ETH/BTC pair is only profitable if BTC increases the moment we made a trade but not if the price goes down however we can always hodl our volatile crypto for a while and wait for their recovery before we sell them for profits.

Or we can just ask him if he prefers stability more than anything else then he should go for ETH/USD pair. If not and he wants profitability over stability then he must go for ETH/BTC pair. For you it may only look a simple trading pair but for others, it can mean a big thing already. There's even a thread here last time which states that non-USD/non-stable coin pairs are more profitable than USD/stable coin pairs. That guy must be serious and he might be a professional trader. There's still more in trading so you still got a point there.

Trading between cryptocurrencies such as ETH/BTC has its advantages and disadvantages. One of the main advantages is that you do not need to transfer your funds into dollars or other fiat currencies, which can take time and require additional fees. In addition, you can use the so-called "arbitrage strategy", which allows you to earn on the difference in prices between two cryptocurrencies on different exchanges. Ultimately, the choice between ETH/BTC and ETH/USD depends on your investment goals, strategy, and risk tolerance.

I don't know much about trading but I think trading ETH/BTC can definitely be profitable. Trading ETH/USD will make it a stablecoin due to which its price is always at the same position. But I think trading ETH/BTC can definitely be profitable when selling ETH to BTC. Then if the Bitcoin market grows then a good profit can be made. and long term bitcoin can be very profitable so for me trading ETH to BTC is the best.

Why don't you try both, and see which one suits you better?  There is no formula to judge which will bring more profit, they are just trading pairs that mean nothing. To be profitable requires a combination of many factors, if you have sufficient knowledge and experience, then choosing a currency pair to trade is not a factor to evaluate your profit. Depending on your strategy and analytical knowledge, choose for yourself the trading pairs that suit you best.

Honestly, I haven't tried ETH/BTC and ETH/BUSD, I use BTC/BUSD for quite some time than ETH and I would say it was profiting. But the truth is that using highly volatile coins for trading is more profitable that is why most traders are using altcoins over BTC. If you have this now and are currently trading, I suggest that you open for other pairs like what I did in order to have a comparison. Because even if I tell you that this x/x is more profitable than this x/y, I'm not sure as well if you are also in profit as it will depend on the trader, not the coins that we are using.

When you trade BTC/USD, it's a one way thing. Your profit only comes from how well Bitcoin performs. But that's not the same when you trade two coins against themselves. It must not be the coins listed by the OP since those two coins moves alike in the market, if Bitcoin pumps or dumps, there's every guarantee that Ethereum will follow next.

But when you trade a Altcoin against another like ETH, you could profit either in USD when you convert the profits to stablecoin or profits in the coin amount that you received. e.g let say you enter the trade with $2k and then it gave you 1 ETH for that amount and you trade your ETH against BNB. The market might make the trade not profitable in USD but you could still get more ETH amount when you close the trade.

I did not have much luck trading pairs which are with a BTC counterpart. There are times maybe on the weekly chart where it helps to look at ETHBTC pairs but mostly the best way is to trade the ETHUSD pair.

If you are trading other currencies such as ETHEUR or ETHGBP then look at the ETHUSD chart instead if you want to trade with technical analysis.

Depends on your preference. If you do like to snipped out profits on fiat or stable ones then USDT pair would be good but if you do want to accumulate bitcoin no matter on what the value or price
it would be in exchange of your ETH then BTC pair would be ideal.This is actually be depending on someones target because there are ones who doesnt really like that volatility much when it comes
to fiat value and this is why they do really involved themselves on stablecoins whereas there are people who do really mind off on accumulating bitcoin as much as they could
and this is why they do end up on otherwise.

Aside from being able to easily know what you're gaining as profits or losing in a crypto/stable coin pair, you're mostly likely going to be confused when you see price at 0.0002 in a crypto/BTC pair. For clarification, I use stable pair over BTC pair and it is a whole lot risky to trade crypto/BTC pair in a downtrend market condition.

Did you mean BTC/USDT to be considered as fiat to crypto pair? No, they are also crypto to crypto pair, but just that USDT is pegged with USD which is fiat. The advantage is that they are pegged with fiat like dollar which most people are using to make calculation on spending and pegged with what they are spending, and because they are stable in price with USD.

You are right that people can make profit from trading, but that does not mean people are making profit all days. Some traders are losing more than what they gain and trading has been like gambling for some traders and they lose more. Also if you check leader boards on many trading sites, you will notice that everyone uses stable coin pairs, but which is expected because they trade in the derivative market where stable coins are pair with unstable coins. Be it of any pair, much technical analysis would help.

I trade in usd as it's easier for me to track of. I convert my crypto to fiat at end of the day, hence usd is best. I lose upside of btc by doing this, but it negates downside as well.

Prior comments say —  choose btc pair in bull market, choose usd in bear, who can predict these market cycles?

If you're into accumulation then pair with other altcoins and not with a stable coin but if you want your trades to have a based form like in fiat (USD) then it's best to pair it with a stable coin or fiat.
Talking about what's more profitable depends on how you're closely taking a look at the market because either is profitable. And only you alone can approve and verify that based on your trading activities and style.
You trade in USD so you'll have the structural form of your trades and you've got the idea too easy because you're all relying to the value of your pair on USD.

It varies in the market condition which we don't know the exact answer to because of the fact that the crypto market can be highly volatile, which can make it difficult to predict price movements accurately.  So it's up to you which suits you, if you feel the market has a correction, stablecoin trading pair is the best shot, and if you know that the market becomes recovering then Ethereum or Bitcoin pair is the best trading pair since it's possibly more profitable due to the high volatility.

All of these need to have dip research before taking such action, your technical and fundamental analysis are should be followed which are your priorities.

Personally, if the market is unstable and falling, use BTC/USDT trading to preserve my profits and my capital, because if you exchange Bitcoin for Altcoin and the market is declining, you will inevitably lose the value of your capital.

But if the market is rising, it is better to trade ETH/BTC or Bitcoin against any other altcoin, because if the coin goes up, your profits increase.

This strategy I follow in normal conditions, but the strategy can be changed by changing market conditions.

I always choose crypto to a stablecoin just to secure my profit at any market trend.
You can also have that fair but since the value of BTC is very volatile, you might lose some by having it. Your strategy is still matter here though, better to analyze what is best for you and what is the option that you can use to be more effective and profitable.

it's the same thing, but considering the fact that eth rate in bitcoin usually also quite volatile then the ETH/BTC pair might be better if you want faster profit earning.
the thing is that, both pair have quite the liquidity and if there's any margin between the two it usually gone within few seconds.
i'd say see the one you sees fit since both more or less have the same potential anyway. also, the profit you could generate will entirely dependent in your decision.
i'd say, if you seek more profit within short time frame, then you should instead gone to altcoins in which offer massive volatility.

if you are doing this on the spotmarket;

1. On a bear market, then ETH/USD(USD has to be a stablecoin like USDT). As the market keeps plummeting, and you sell off your ETH for USDT. The stablecoin helps avoid your portfolio from losing value as compared to if you just held ETH as you waited for when to buy or sell

2. On a bull market, obviously ETH/BTC is more profitable.

It is indeed subjective to the market performance of these currencies.
There's no concrete strategy on how you can trade these to optimize profits.
But if there's time that you don't want to trade and not worry about its fluctuating value, you can always convert it to USDT.
Also, do remember, the other alts are usually following the BTC performance in the market. You may consider such thought.

It depends on what your goal and the current price of BTC and USD/USDT.

If you want to secure your profits, you are better to choose USD/USDT because the value won't change significantly in the future. So, it is safer to keep or directly convert to your account banks. But if you want to sell your ETH for another investment attempt, you can choose BTC. For example, when ETH is rising and BTC is decreasing, you can choose ETH/BTC (selling ETH for BTC). But it rarely happens because commonly ETH price is following BTC price.

Depends what you want to acccumulate. If your want to have more and more BTC then choose BTC pair, in other situation maybe better use USD pair.

 The market can't give a perfect answer because it's a hard prediction and both trade options may be right at different times after the cycle.  In the market, it is wise to take a small amount of trade from both pairs at different times of satisfaction.

For me trading via ETH/USD more profitable than ETH/BTC because easy to count about how much profit earning and stable price from USD make us how to know about much profit earn, but some people still interested via pair ETH/BTC because potential earn two side profit not only by ETH but also when BTC up they can earn profit trough BTC.

Usually, BTC up and follow by altcoin exactly ETH and trading via ETH/BTC potential earn double profit than using ETH/USD because stable coins not change drastically and under fewest cent up every time. Just easy to count about how many percent earn profit trough ETH/USD than ETH/BTC and I think you can choose with ETH/USD for trading pair.

It depends,if I should encourage op to use, it's usdt so that it will make accurate calculations of its profits and lost and arrive in a point he wants.

its best to trade ETH/USDT pair because USDT is stable coin but its your choice what to use when you trading.

Trading ETH/USD allows you to take advantage of the fluctuations in the price of Ethereum against the US dollar. This trading pair is useful if you are primarily interested in trading Ethereum against a fiat currency and if you want to avoid the volatility of Bitcoin. However, if the US dollar value is affected by market conditions or other factors, this can also have an impact on your trades.
On the other hand, trading ETH/BTC involves trading Ethereum against Bitcoin, which is the most popular cryptocurrency in the market. This trading pair is useful if you want to take advantage of Bitcoins volatility and its impact on other cryptocurrencies, including Ethereum. However, it is  important to keep in mind that Bitcoin price movements can be unpredictable and can also impact the value of ethereum. So the choice between trading ETH/USD or ETH/BTC will depend on your personal trading strategy and goals, as well as your risk tolerance and market knowledge.

Since you are going to trade Ethereum and it is an unstable coin, I don't think it would be good to use Bitcoin to measure it, because Bitcoin is an also unstable coin. In this case, if you use Bitcoin, you may have to get in trouble when calculating profit and loss. Not only will it be a hassle but also a waste of time and time is precious in trading so I would say to avoid these things always use stable coins for trading. It can be USDT or USDC or BUSD

For me it’s crypto/fiat pair always. It gives quicker insights about how much I am gaining and losing over a trade. How quickly can you calculate if it’s crypto to crypto pair? It will take time and market is such high volatility it could change its course at anytime.

Moreover, always consider one important factor here, understand which pair has best VOLUME.
If you are trading then volume plays important role in executing your trade and giving you that buy or sell order. If no volume then you could end up with losses for sure due to that poor wait time.

Before giving you a suggestion, I would like to ask you that which pair will be convenient for you to easily calculate profit and loss ETH/USD or ETH/BTC?
I think your answer will be the same answer as mine and others answer and that is USD. So according to my opion  it will be best to use USD for trading not only just for ethereum it should be used in all cases. Because finding profit and loss is a big factor in trading, and it is often needed quickly so that's why it is always better to use stablecoins.

First of all stable coin and Fiat isn't same, stable coin still a crypto but claims to have a value of fiat.

Trading cryptocurrencies isn't profitable at all in the bull season, because more you hold the value will be increasing day by day then why we have to spend time and our profits to an exchange?

Trading is profitable everyday and it depends on what are the strategies are we using for our trades, personally myself trade with stable pairs because I don't do much if technical analysis so prefer stable coin with BTC whereas some used to have extensive technical analysis over the crypto pair they are choosing so if the both goes in opposite direction and they manage to cash out at the right time then they can make huge margin over others.

Yes thats what I am also thinking. But whats the use of crypto/crypto pairs, over crypto/fiat. Does it mean crypto/crypto pairs is only profitable during bullrun?

I am always wondering why some traders prefer to trade unstable coin with unstable coin pair. What are you spending? Not fiat? If you are not from a country that is spending USD, possibly as a trader you will still convert your local fiat to USD on calculator in a way you will be able to know the amount you earn in local currency. Stable coins like USDT is better as the profit and loss are easily known and also realistic.

But some traders can trade bitcoin if they are not certain of price fall and they convert from altcoin to bitcoin because bitcoin is less volatile than altcoins. Some people choose bitcoin during such time than altcoins. So they can go for bitcoin and also stable coins.

Trading is more profitable if you know what you are doing, that is just a trading pair and profit can't be guarantee by such fairing.
If you want to be more profitable in trading, know what's work for you.

I do trading against the pair of USDT and I can say that it didn't increase my chance of making profit because in trading, it will still depend on your strategy and analysis. Just trade what you have, if you have BTC then go pair it with altcoins but if you hold stablecoins, then that's a good option as well.

Can you give me insight, do you think trading via ETH/BTC is more profitable than ETH/USD? Please give me an advice.