Which one is easier to win at Blackjack or Poker?

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Quote from: UnknownUsername on November 11, 2015, 06:37:51 PM

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I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

From your experience and your post above, you should know which one was more easy and more simple to do, and i think we had same oppinion that blackjack was easier than poker for any gambler...

Well I never played poker so I had no experience in it but was always hearing about how the pros make a lot from it so was wanting some opinions. I think I got enough answers to make a decision now. I thank all who said their views and advice on these two games. Will make it easier if I want to ever attempt to try at poker.

Well those pros have to play for hrs. Playing poker needs a lot of patience because not every time you have a good hands to play with

You can also lock the topic now that you have your answers.

Yeah. Answered enough times it is starting to sound redundant here.
Thank you all for your insight on this topic.
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Quote from: btckold24 on November 11, 2015, 06:41:03 PM

poker 10 years + ago was very easy to win at if you played in the right game with good tight strategy. Nowadays everyone knows advanced play it seems and its much tougher to find a weak game.

Well it depends on the stakes you play. At micro/low stakes, at least in the btc poker I think players are "pretty easy". You find lots of players that are just trying their luck and make terrible moves. Of course that they win some, and sometimes just make you lose even with a good play, and just end up giving your chips to someone else (because luck does not last forever), but I normally end up winning in the long run, so I like playing there.

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poker 10 years + ago was very easy to win at if you played in the right game with good tight strategy. Nowadays everyone knows advanced play it seems and its much tougher to find a weak game.

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Quote from: Arcteryx on November 11, 2015, 06:23:04 PM

Quote from: titibach on November 11, 2015, 06:09:14 PM

Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 04:30:31 PM

I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

From your experience and your post above, you should know which one was more easy and more simple to do, and i think we had same oppinion that blackjack was easier than poker for any gambler...

Well I never played poker so I had no experience in it but was always hearing about how the pros make a lot from it so was wanting some opinions. I think I got enough answers to make a decision now. I thank all who said their views and advice on these two games. Will make it easier if I want to ever attempt to try at poker.

Well those pros have to play for hrs. Playing poker needs a lot of patience because not every time you have a good hands to play with

You can also lock the topic now that you have your answers.

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Quote from: titibach on November 11, 2015, 06:09:14 PM

Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 04:30:31 PM

I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

From your experience and your post above, you should know which one was more easy and more simple to do, and i think we had same oppinion that blackjack was easier than poker for any gambler...

Well I never played poker so I had no experience in it but was always hearing about how the pros make a lot from it so was wanting some opinions. I think I got enough answers to make a decision now. I thank all who said their views and advice on these two games. Will make it easier if I want to ever attempt to try at poker.

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Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 04:30:31 PM

I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

From your experience and your post above, you should know which one was more easy and more simple to do, and i think we had same oppinion that blackjack was easier than poker for any gambler...

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blackjack is really easy game and everyone can understand it while poker might be pretty hard for some players though i better play poker than blackjack

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for me its poker as i dont spend my time learning the rules of poker and i dont know how to play it so blackjack is better for me

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Poker is absolutely better than Blackjack in terms of possibility of win. If you're good and play many many hand, with some experience you can live with the poker. There are many examples of player that live with the poker (from normal people to the poker stars, like Daniel Negreanu for example).

Blackjack is not good if there is the house edge.

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Poker requires more skill, but is easier to win if you have the skill.

Blackjack is more luck based, but for a beginner gambler, it can be profitable if you stick to the below-fourteen rule.

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Blackjack is easier to win at that playing Poker surely. There's a lot more skill involved in Poker & it's a lot more difficult to learn.

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Quote from: CarlesPuyol on November 11, 2015, 08:04:26 AM

No one is easier. The skills you need to learn for both games are limitless. And both of games will probably rip your money Cheesy

Maybe you always all-in on both games and you lost it all? So that is why you are concluding this.

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In my opinion both game are the same, not only luck-based game but also skill based game. In blackjack we need to know when to hit/stop, and in poker we need to know when to fold/raise/call.
But in case of easy to win, I'd say blackjack is easier (not in long term ofc) because we can use martingale strategy while we cant do in poker game.

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Quote from: CarlesPuyol on November 11, 2015, 08:04:26 AM

No one is easier. The skills you need to learn for both games are limitless. And both of games will probably rip your money Cheesy

According to everybody else you don't need as much skill to play blackjack then poker, so your statement is false.
Most people again would disagree with you about them ripping you off. It would also depend on how good you are.

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No one is easier. The skills you need to learn for both games are limitless. And both of games will probably rip your money Cheesy

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I have not played a hand of poker in my life so I will take everybody's sound advice here and not go against these high rollers at all the poker sites. Wink

I will stick with blackjack cause it is fast paced and better to play for not so experienced card players. I believe this is where you learn the basics of how to play at any card game.
But I always wondered: Does it matter in blackjack how many players are playing at your table? Does it lessen your odds to have a winning hand if there are more players sitting in at the table?
1st position or last position should matter either I would imagine.

depends on how many decks and how often they shuffle.

Most games I have seen online have an 8 deck shoe and it reshuffles all 8 decks after each hand. When that is done, you will not see enough cards in one game for it to change the strategy. In a real casino or with 1 deck, the more cards you see, the more you know about what cards are left and can use that to adjust your strategy accordingly. That's called counting cards and is very difficult.

Number of players/order doesn't matter. If you beat the dealer you win, if you don't you lose. Doesn't matter what anyone else does, and the dealer's actions won't be impacted either because they hit or stay only based on their cards, they don't care what anyone else has.

Some people (foolishly) would rather go last so they can do the "right" thing and not let someone else "screw up" the cards. this is foolish because they can "screw it up" just a badly from anywhere at the table, and in my experience the number of times someone "making a mistake" screws everyone over and saves everyone tends to balance out. But, if it makes you feel better, you should go last.

8 decks. But I have always thought the more people who are playing the better chances for you to see what face cards are left to distribute out to the players thus allowing you to make a better decision whether to hit or stand.

If you are playing online they reshuffle all 8 decks every hand so it is highly unlikely that you will see enough of anything to make a difference.

And while there are some strategy changes based on the count, knowing whether to bet bigger or smaller depending on what is left in the shoe is much more important, and you have to bet before you see anything.

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blackjack is very simple and easy for all and i like that game and if you are a beginner at poker so just play as free first and then go play with bitcoin because to win you need to be a pro at poker and a lucky one Wink

because not like blackjack you don't need only luck to win

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every game has its own benefit and loss, in Blackjack , as others replyied its purely on luck, if you are playing in casino , what ever game you play you will lose it at the end, but in poker if you are playing against live inplay players then their is so many strategy through which you can win .

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Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 04:30:31 PM

I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

Try playing Zynga Poker on Facebook if you want to learn.
I mostly improve my gameplay at poker through that before trying real online poker.

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Quote from: Phildo on November 10, 2015, 11:58:26 PM

Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 11:49:11 PM

I have not played a hand of poker in my life so I will take everybody's sound advice here and not go against these high rollers at all the poker sites. Wink

I will stick with blackjack cause it is fast paced and better to play for not so experienced card players. I believe this is where you learn the basics of how to play at any card game.
But I always wondered: Does it matter in blackjack how many players are playing at your table? Does it lessen your odds to have a winning hand if there are more players sitting in at the table?
1st position or last position should matter either I would imagine.

depends on how many decks and how often they shuffle.

Most games I have seen online have an 8 deck shoe and it reshuffles all 8 decks after each hand. When that is done, you will not see enough cards in one game for it to change the strategy. In a real casino or with 1 deck, the more cards you see, the more you know about what cards are left and can use that to adjust your strategy accordingly. That's called counting cards and is very difficult.

Number of players/order doesn't matter. If you beat the dealer you win, if you don't you lose. Doesn't matter what anyone else does, and the dealer's actions won't be impacted either because they hit or stay only based on their cards, they don't care what anyone else has.

Some people (foolishly) would rather go last so they can do the "right" thing and not let someone else "screw up" the cards. this is foolish because they can "screw it up" just a badly from anywhere at the table, and in my experience the number of times someone "making a mistake" screws everyone over and saves everyone tends to balance out. But, if it makes you feel better, you should go last.

8 decks. But I have always thought the more people who are playing the better chances for you to see what face cards are left to distribute out to the players thus allowing you to make a better decision whether to hit or stand.

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definitely poker, provided one is both skilled and experienced at the game. blackjack is more or less a game against the house, with other players potentially involved, and more then likely that casino will have it designed so that it benefits them (the house) in the future. however, in poker, where skill over other players is a major factor at play, its very possible to consistently win the right hands, and fold the bad ones.

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Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 11:49:11 PM

I have not played a hand of poker in my life so I will take everybody's sound advice here and not go against these high rollers at all the poker sites. Wink

I will stick with blackjack cause it is fast paced and better to play for not so experienced card players. I believe this is where you learn the basics of how to play at any card game.
But I always wondered: Does it matter in blackjack how many players are playing at your table? Does it lessen your odds to have a winning hand if there are more players sitting in at the table?
1st position or last position should matter either I would imagine.

depends on how many decks and how often they shuffle.

Most games I have seen online have an 8 deck shoe and it reshuffles all 8 decks after each hand. When that is done, you will not see enough cards in one game for it to change the strategy. In a real casino or with 1 deck, the more cards you see, the more you know about what cards are left and can use that to adjust your strategy accordingly. That's called counting cards and is very difficult.

Number of players/order doesn't matter. If you beat the dealer you win, if you don't you lose. Doesn't matter what anyone else does, and the dealer's actions won't be impacted either because they hit or stay only based on their cards, they don't care what anyone else has.

Some people (foolishly) would rather go last so they can do the "right" thing and not let someone else "screw up" the cards. this is foolish because they can "screw it up" just a badly from anywhere at the table, and in my experience the number of times someone "making a mistake" screws everyone over and saves everyone tends to balance out. But, if it makes you feel better, you should go last.

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I have not played a hand of poker in my life so I will take everybody's sound advice here and not go against these high rollers at all the poker sites. Wink

I will stick with blackjack cause it is fast paced and better to play for not so experienced card players. I believe this is where you learn the basics of how to play at any card game.
But I always wondered: Does it matter in blackjack how many players are playing at your table? Does it lessen your odds to have a winning hand if there are more players sitting in at the table?
1st position or last position should matter either I would imagine.

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In one of those two games you must place your bet before you see your cards. In the other game you can bet after you have seen your cards.

I used to play blackjack. Now I play poker. I don't play blackjack at all anymore.

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Yeah, BJ is easiest to learn. But it's easier to win at poker once you learn even the basics. In poker you also have more control over how much you can win as well as how much you can lose. When you have a good hand, bet out. If you have a shit hand, you can fold without having to put any more money in the pot.

If you keep getting bad cards in poker, you can just keep folding without putting any money in other than the blinds and antes. If you get a bad run of cards in BJ, you just have to keep eating shit.

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I have done both but personally i more like playing blackjack than poker and last time i did it win 57500 doge from directbet giveaway Grin

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Both are difficult even if you aren't a beginner, you will still lose as these games are more of luck. I notice lately that when I get to call, players tend to increase the pot size and they always win. Maybe its just be but same goes for almost all gambling sites.

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Blackjack is the easiest game but the payout is not good enough, may be 2.5 if you hit blackjack, otherwise poker with small amount you can win big too, it is not as easy as blackjack but you really need some skill and a little bit luck when you are in poker and that is why it looks poker harder than blackjack

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Blackjack is easier. Less variables and possible results.

Make the dealer bust. Like Phildo says, if the dealer busts, everyone else wins.

Play consistent. Figure out the 'laws' you want to play by and stick to them. For example, I stay on 16 rather than the textbook 17. My reasoning is only 5 (ace through 5) of 14 cards will not bust me. Let the dealer bust. Not you.

That's just bad advice. No textbook says to hit every 16 and stay on every 17, that's what the dealer does, not what you should do.

The first key to winning at blackjack is realizing that when you have a 16 and the dealer has a 10 you are fucked. There is no difference in how much money you lose when you bust and how much money you lose when the dealer turns over a 17-20 while you are standing with a 16.

The strategy for blackjack is out there. It doesn't guarantee that you will win, but people have looked at all the probabilities and expected values for every possible situation in blackjack and made tons of charts listing which option has the highest EV in every possible situation. There are many situations in blackjack where the option with the highest EV is still negative, but you are throwing even more money away than usual by not using basic strategy.

I stand corrected. I am not a "card shark" by any measure. The only true advice I was offering to OP was play consistently and allow the dealer to bust rather than yourself.

Letting the dealer bust is a good thing, but you don't need to be a card shark to look at the basic charts and basic math of the game. The dealer is a lot more likely to bust when they have a 4,5,6 showing than when they have a 7,8,9,10,a showing. Hoping the dealer will bust when they are showing an ace is a bad strategy because it won't happen enough.

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Quote from: Phildo on November 10, 2015, 07:45:57 PM

Quote from: CryptoCanary on November 10, 2015, 07:39:02 PM

Blackjack is easier. Less variables and possible results.

Make the dealer bust. Like Phildo says, if the dealer busts, everyone else wins.

Play consistent. Figure out the 'laws' you want to play by and stick to them. For example, I stay on 16 rather than the textbook 17. My reasoning is only 5 (ace through 5) of 14 cards will not bust me. Let the dealer bust. Not you.

That's just bad advice. No textbook says to hit every 16 and stay on every 17, that's what the dealer does, not what you should do.

The first key to winning at blackjack is realizing that when you have a 16 and the dealer has a 10 you are fucked. There is no difference in how much money you lose when you bust and how much money you lose when the dealer turns over a 17-20 while you are standing with a 16.

The strategy for blackjack is out there. It doesn't guarantee that you will win, but people have looked at all the probabilities and expected values for every possible situation in blackjack and made tons of charts listing which option has the highest EV in every possible situation. There are many situations in blackjack where the option with the highest EV is still negative, but you are throwing even more money away than usual by not using basic strategy.

I stand corrected. I am not a "card shark" by any measure. The only true advice I was offering to OP was play consistently and allow the dealer to bust rather than yourself.

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I will suggest u to play poker on FaceBook first. Try cash game, and tournament game. Feel the game first and after that u can choose where to play for real money there is good places, for bitcoins or fiat. I suggested FB cause there u can experiment with diferent styles of playing without fear of loosing your money. Black Jack on other hand is game against the house, for me there is much more excitement in poker.

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Quote from: CryptoCanary on November 10, 2015, 07:39:02 PM

Blackjack is easier. Less variables and possible results.

Make the dealer bust. Like Phildo says, if the dealer busts, everyone else wins.

Play consistent. Figure out the 'laws' you want to play by and stick to them. For example, I stay on 16 rather than the textbook 17. My reasoning is only 5 (ace through 5) of 14 cards will not bust me. Let the dealer bust. Not you.

That's just bad advice. No textbook says to hit every 16 and stay on every 17, that's what the dealer does, not what you should do.

The first key to winning at blackjack is realizing that when you have a 16 and the dealer has a 10 you are fucked. There is no difference in how much money you lose when you bust and how much money you lose when the dealer turns over a 17-20 while you are standing with a 16.

The strategy for blackjack is out there. It doesn't guarantee that you will win, but people have looked at all the probabilities and expected values for every possible situation in blackjack and made tons of charts listing which option has the highest EV in every possible situation. There are many situations in blackjack where the option with the highest EV is still negative, but you are throwing even more money away than usual by not using basic strategy.

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Blackjack is at best, a break even game. It is not possible to win in the long run no matter what the books try and tell you. Poker is, ideally, a completely even game where everyone has the same chance of winning or losing. However, particularly at lower stakes, the rake (the amount of money a table takes out of the final pot) can create a negative expected value.

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Poker for sure, it's easy af to be stupid and go all-in, and get a good hand.

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i prefer poker,I cant really explain it but its just simpler and more skill oriented imo. blackjack is a alot about luck.

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Blackjack is easier. Less variables and possible results.

Make the dealer bust. Like Phildo says, if the dealer busts, everyone else wins.

Play consistent. Figure out the 'laws' you want to play by and stick to them. For example, I stay on 16 rather than the textbook 17. My reasoning is only 5 (ace through 5) of 14 cards will not bust me. Let the dealer bust. Not you.

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Blackjack is almost always -ev and you are going against someone (the casino) with the odds stacked against you that has way more money than you so it's difficult to win.

Poker CAN be +ev, but you need to beat everyone else at the table, so it's harder to win 1 hand of poker than 1 hand of blackjack. It's possible that you can be better than the people you are playing against and/or that luck may be on your side with that deal.

For the most part it's 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other. if you have enough practice you can make money playing poker, but it takes lots of work, some luck, and enough money to survive the bad luck/better player that are inevitable.

Keep both as a type of entertainment until you figure out that you can't win or you feel that you might be good enough to continually win at poker.

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Quote from: Arcteryx on November 10, 2015, 04:30:31 PM

I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

I hardly play blackjack. When I do it I use no strategy and jut go for the luck factor.
As for poker is a amazing game, and you should really try it. You can go just for luck to, but that would be a waste, unless you were getting plenty of fun from it, and you were ok with that, but I prefer to try always try to improve my skill in poker, as you have plenty of room to do that.

As for where to play, why not start in the btc workd? I play at betcoing.ag and I really enjoy it.

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I would say Blackjack it requires little luck or no skill as its a fast game to play and very entertaining. Decision making is easy in Blackjack always know exactly what to do in every given situation for a chance of winning.

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BJ is much easier to win because in poker people are unpredictable anything can happen.

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I prefer Blackjack. Though Poker is easier for people who can psychologically manipulate others, Blackjack is simple, and strategies are not hard to learn.

Also, let's not forget about house edge Roll Eyes

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for me its poker as i have strategies on it and i am pretty experienced player though it depends on player as you might win on bj more

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well if your begginer in poker i would suggest you to play at netbet or some site like that pokerstars have alot of good poker players and you have like 0 chances of winning it if you are newbie.. Sad

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i think its blackjack if you are not experienced poker player as in poker you can loose to good players and in blackjack there is only a house edge

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If you are playing on a site where you can't verify that it's provably fair; it doesn't matter what game you play as your odds are the same.
In the fair game it would be easier to win at blackjack i think, because dealer has rules that he must follow, and u as a player don't.
In the end the last factor is human greed, which in most cases erases all logic and leads most into bust :/

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I ask this question because I am learning to play Blackjack it is simple if you follow the standard rules of the game but there is some luck involved too.
I haven't tried my hand in Poker yet but wanted some suggestions before trying it out.
Wanted to get a pokerstars account is this not recommended for beginners?

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