Topic: WHO declared corona outbreak as Pandemic! (Read 392 times)

Who? Who?... did you say?

I've just heard that Bill Gates has basically bought the WHO insofar as he is the 2nd biggest financial contributor behind the United States government.  I personally have not verified this 'fact' though.  Not yet.  It's on my list of things to do.

We all know that the the United Nations does not choose it's leadership by voting among the useless eater class even though it grants itself vast authority over the flock.  It's fair to conjecture that as a big contributor and someone who's 'done work' in Ethiopia, Mr. Gates has a big say in the choice of Mr. Tedros Adhanom to head up the WHO.

I'm probably not the only person who was surprised to know that the leader of the WHO is not a medical doctor.  Let's learn a little bit more about Mr. Tedros Adhanom shall we?  It goes some distance toward understanding some of the baffling activities of that organization.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yD3o6_QGJId

You explain a lot of things with garbage blah, blah, blah.


Sorry. I don't have time to re-read your blabber.

i explained this to you before and used an example of the UK method of doing it..
how about instead of just blindly believing a youtuber who himself is not first hand knowledge.. you actually do what i did and research behind the words he said

i already debunked just the first 10 minute stuff he said.. which you seem ignorant to not want to admit.. so how about just stop actually being spoonfed and believing stuff found on youtube and instead actually do some research

here is another myth debunked
the whole conspiracy that death stats are done by looking at the ICD-10 codes of a birth certificate and if corona is on the list then its reported as a corona death.. is wrong
one simple reason. death certificates are files 5 days later and that report does to a totally different department
the 'live data' daily released to public is sourced more direct from doctors reporting patients in ICU who were in the severe/critical group. who then died because they couldnt get over the symptoms related to covid

you wont find a covid death listed with symptoms of blood loss or crushing injuries where they had an accident/shot, but were simply asymptomatic of corona but positive tested for it.

just wake up
by the way you are now super obsessed with that single link.. stupidly your cant even be bothered to research whats actually being said in that video.. ignorance, lazy, stupid.. pick your flaw. because im starting to think its all of them

You tracked these doctors down and checked on them?

You looked their credentials over to see that they are in good standing?

You checked their tests, and the tests of everyone they get statistics from?

You have enough training to understand the test reports?

You checked into the test reports to see that the people tested really exist?

You have ascertained some provable way that this is a lie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HodiDWSkTWU.

Where's your credentials so that we can see that anything you say is worth listening to?

no no no no no
you have no clue

the numbers provided to things lie stanford and worldometer are direct from doctors on the scene reporting those who are symptomatic of symptoms specific to covid, and where the covid symptoms exacerbate to such an extent that the covid symptoms are the actual cause

separately like 5 days later when an actual death certificate is filed. where for instance it lists the things like respiratory distress and fever and covid test positive.

a separate department hold separate stats where a ill emphasis this . a separate department creates stats of those that die and atleast just show covid positive test result.

these are two different statistics. and the public statistic of those dying due to symptoms related to covid is the one that the public are seeing.

please do your research
those dying due to exacerbated respiritory distress caused by pneumonia, caused by covid would be a covid death
you will not see a covid death having a direct cause of blood loss(gunshot).. nor spinal/crush damage(traffic accident).

just realise that youtube conspiracy guys grabing info from blogs. are not the same as what doctors are actually reporting. because doctors are reporting actual cause of death

Taking  it seriously was the reason why we found out that it is hype and fake news.

What do you want? Hype and fake news, or facts. Put the facts together, and you will figure out what is fake news and hype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCnpPjUvdLM

We are more than a quarter of the way through 2020.  Lots of the 50k you mention died WITH coronavirus and OF things like highly metastasized stage 4 cancer, but by policy some countries (U.S., Italy) will count them as a 'covid-19 death'.  Even then around 60M people die per year so around 15,000,000 will have died.

  50,000/15,000,000 = 1/300 = 0.003 = 0.3%

That's pretty easily within the range that could be buried under a complete hoax.  It's certainly not a problem worth destroying the global economy over since such a destruction will lead to far more deaths than this.  The thing which makes the most sense to me is that it was time to 'pull' the economy itself and this was just an excuse and smoke-screen.


Coronavirus is around all year every year.  It sweeps back and forth around the world as the common cold then goes away when a population has developed a relatively modest amount of natural herd immunity.(*)  Always has.

We've never had a vaccine for coronavirus deployed yet, although attempts to develop one have been attempted and ended in disaster.  Why do you think that this coronavirus will remain rampant until a 'cure or vaccine?'  Who told you that, and did they give you a justification?
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(*) 65-70%.  Initially the immunologists assumed that 70% should be good enough for vaccines because it made sense based on observations of naturally occurring infections.  It wasn't.  Nor was 80%.  Nor 90%.  Nor is the current 95% given various outbreaks of various infections in 'highly vaccinated populations.'  Nobody has a very good explanation for this very inconvenient conundrum...or wishes to talk about it because it is embarrassing and interferes with other plans and the marketing spiel.

I wonder what they think that it takes to call an outbreak as pandemic.
We have faced 50.000 deaths worldwide in such a short period of time and we are still counting. Apart from that, we do not have the cure or the vaccine to this virus so it is still rampant and will be in the near future as well.

It affected more than a million people now but for million almost 2/3 of world population are at home due to the fear of getting die but the actual number is nothing when we compare it with the death caused by cancer or smoking cigarettes.

The real problem is governments doesn't have enough health care development to treat people so they are locking down people.

I don't think it's hype and faux news How does one believe this is often fake news The WHO will never really lie around this pandemic they test it then declare it as an epidemic If confined to only one country, there would are hype and faux news but it's spread everywhere the planet and lots of people are dying a day. We must take various steps to affect it as not fake news.

Really? Someone still thinks it's just hype and fake news? You guys should take it seriously...

heres badecker again.
grabs some random nonsense from another website and links it. pretends its real.
when we show its not.. he cries that people should go contact the source and how it has nothing to do with him..

no badecker.
how about you try and do some research to prevent yourself from believing the nonsense stuff you link. then you wont link it and we wont have to try teaching you that you are wrong.

it doesnt matter if some nutjob on some other place is providing lies.. by YOU falling for it. YOU believing it. YOU copying it. .. then it is YOU that needs to be taught right from wrong, because its YOU that is posting it on THIS forum

We're finally getting down to the bottom of things. Since you are so interested in the truth, and you don't believe the little chart I showed, YOU go ahead and prove what the truth is. You know. Get a bunch of researchers together under oath to divulge the results of their tests and observations and show us why it is proof.

I showed a chart, and linked it to the source, if in no other way, then in the scripting that lets the chart appear. You haven't even provided a comparison. And you link Wikipedia, which is known to exaggerate.

You got any proof?

Show facts that support it, instead of babbling nonsense.

Easy enough, look up the symptoms of zinc deficiency.

Since it isn't bogus, you don't know that it is bogus.     

You've been shown here to have posted a comparison chart that's bogus.

If I'm wrong, show the facts. Look them up and post them. Otherwise, deal with it.

So, you agree that Wikipedia doesn't really know the truth.

If hospitals are empty, should we be checking the morgue?

You sound like you are working hard behind the scenes to make the fake CV thing into a method to take down nations. Who are you working for?

No, wikipedia is only an example of a common understanding of the symptoms of zinc deficiency. The same facts can be found in any diagnostic medical reference. Regardless, do millions of people suddenly develop zinc deficiency? TO the extent that people I know are suddenly dying of this illness?



Hospitals are empty because elective surgery and other work is being postponed. Of course, duh. Who would want to go to a hospital today.

This is a case of you are being lied to and you are believing and repeating lies.

germany is on lockdown/self isolation

just like i told you about america hospitals. germany is cancelling elective surgeries and cancelling routine treatments/consultations.

so you will not see queues of people just waiting around in the waiting room
they are in sealed off ICU wards.

use commons sense

And you think Wikipedia isn't bogus? LOL!


German journalist goes to coronavirus 'emergency' hospital - no one there. What a scam!

That chart is bogus. That does not show typical symptoms of zinc deficiency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_deficiency#Signs_and_symptoms

Come on! You know full well that they haven't even determined which is killing people, Coronavirus or zinc deficiency:

To bad citizen journalists are watching how many people enter the hospitals and are not seeing almost anyone come and go.  Even at ones which, only the day before, the fake news mainstream media had been pumping as the 'epicenter' of this supposed mass epidemic that you've been promising us for weeks now.

Maybe the deadly ill patients are being beamed in to the ICU by star trek technology?  Or maybe they are using Illuminati tunnels under New York?  What does seem clear is that they are not arriving in ambulances, walk in, or by car all that much.

Recent one with some funny stuff:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqlBxjLxUs4

To say the truth, I do expect the '2nd wave' you have been promising us as just around the corner.  Hopefully it will be another harmless hoax like covid-19, but it could well be one of the thousands of truly devastating biological weapons that the corp/gov military industrial complex are spending billions of dollars cooking up.

99% have not even got it to even become a statistic

your taking things out of context..
just like. if you went to a town. where everyone was banned from driving for a month.. you would say that there will never be any more car accidents.
not realising that when people get back into their vehicles.. accidents will occur.

put it into some prospective.
based on limited numbers so far due to self isolation
7billion people.. 1% symptomatic = 70million.. death rate =~4m world wide ONCE IT HAS MASS SPREAD

the problem is not that its a 50% chance of death from just licking a door knob
its that hospitals cannot cope with 70mill people with symptoms trying to get better all at same time
and those more critical wont even get air so the death numbers would be higher than 4m deaths

thats why they want to delay the spread now. and then increase hospital ability to cope. so that they can try keeping it around the 4m count. and hope to get less deaths.

you foolishly think that march 25th is the end of the whole pandemic just shows how little you know.
seems you want to remain ignorant

Yeah it's never possible for one to beat this crisis We all need to affect the very fact that we are all affected. WHO will play the foremost important role during this As he has announced the outbreak of the coronary epidemic he can help us to beat this epidemic if we wish.

you became a slave years ago. its why your so obsessed with trying but failing to prove you are not.
but your wordsdont hint act any actual actions you pretend to take.

you spend too much time on cult websites thinking they are offering freedom.
you kiss ass guys who pretend to offer lawless seasteading lifestyle when he is just trying to sell you time shares in a vacation home

but you dont actually spend enough time understanding how the world actually works and how to manauver through it without it impacting you. you prefer to lock yourself away and hide and then blame others for the reason you need to hide.

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you seem a little too obsessed with the thinking that the self isolation is the big deal..
do you know why many countries are asking manufacturers to make ventilators which will be ready in a month to treat patient in a month..
i know you want to beleive that the virus spread is over and done with and now back to business..
but the virus has not even started mass spread.
only a majority of people have it.
and thats the point. delay the spread to prepare.

its reasons why people are not expected to go back to school till summer
its why manufaturers are making equipment.. because its not going to be over in 2 weeks

yes the 'isolation' will be relaxed sooner than summer.. but the spread of the actual virus wil be coming in waves where isolation may need to be tightened and relaxed a few times.

again the government is not doing this to be some puppet master. infact they categorically declined even the notion of putting NY into martial law control
they first made it voluntary self isolation. but stupid people being stupid didnt help themselves. so yea government had to say it abit more stronger.

if your worried about being sht by a cop.. dont do something stupid and reckless to deserve it.
its like gun control. if your going to wave a gun at a cop.. or anyone.. risk getting shot yourself.
shouting out its your right to have a gun does not mean you get a shield to not get shot yourself for being a stupid reckless idiot with it..
so no waving guns around in public or expect someone to treat it as a threat and sort you out.
so no licking window glass or door knobs thinking government 'self isolation' makes you immune

show some common sense. and prepare for the coming months. dont think that this is over

A lot of people are fearful, and isolate themselves even though it isn't a law everywhere. So, it is medical and government people playing on their fears to get them to self-isolate. The point isn't the reason why they isolate themselves. The point is that danger they are placing themselves into by doing so.

It's good to have a little bit of fear in every direction. Without such fear, people are lulled into thinking they are secure. It's then that they become easy prey for those who want to turn them into slaves, or worse.

self isolation is not martial law.
your now the one trying to promote fear of government control and martial law of being shot if seen on streets..
none of that is happening..

self isolation is not same a martial law

You haven't figured out, yet, have you? Isolation is about keeping the people off the streets so that government can take over and eliminate their rights. It's called divide and conquer.

self isolation is about DELAYING the spread. not curing the disease
countries need to ramp up staff/supplies/beds before the main onslaught of critical patients. because the first round of limited people who came into contact, showed they couldnt cope.

if you think its all over and its business as usual. please just do some research.. proper research

Get into checking WHO out. Not all their members agree that Coronavirus should be called a pandemic. There is a lot of evidence that CV is mostly fear and hype.

What ever cause the corona virus is still unclear but from the look of things it defunetly came from china. It just came up thats why treating it is not that simple. People who have not been living healthy lives should just quarantine themselves as fast as they can. Not everyone is dying fom the virus as statistics comclude. The symptoms are very clear. Once you have the symptomps call your nearest medical insttitution or some hotline provided in some countries. People have to be strong, whe the ebola hit, things were just as tough. It wil get better eventually. The people were not prepared when it first hit, now they know how to take care of themselves.

TV make the term 'pandemic' sound like some genocide causing issue or some apocalypse story

the point of the term pandemic is just to have this event noted as not an ordinary condition/scenario. this then allows new laws to be created/used for just special events.

EG by having a law of self isolation during a pandemic. means countries cannot later on randomly use that law to create some martial law condition for no reason/anytime as they please. but it can be enacted only in a pandemic situation

it allows laws to force insurance companies to just pay out without question instead of trying to argue that a patient has done something not worthy of payout(their usual clauses)

it allows flights to be allowed to be cancelled without them losing their slots in the future or be penalised for not carrying mail/freight on time

it also allows statutory sick payments to be automated without people needing to show proof of why they are not working
for instance, not letting employers use it as an excuse to sack staff for not turning up to work for a month

but as i said its aim is to use this for special circumstance events only. and once the classification of 'pandemic' has been removed. things can go back to business as usual without countries overstepping the mark by abusing these special event laws

however TV/Media will not talk about the real reason. and just glory hound the term as a apocalypse news story

Coronavirus: 103-year-old woman becomes oldest person to beat dis ease.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-latest-103-year-old-woman-recovers-wuhan-hubei-china-a9393991.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Seems like the term "pandemic" is stereotyped as the start of the "end of the world", as depicted in sci-fi movies. But in my opinion, the declaration of COVID-19 outbreak as pandemic is a bit of exaggeration of the situation. The transfer of the virus from one person to another might already began even before they started recording the data on the COVID-19 cases, as well as the deaths and recoveries.

It's a matter of time for us to overcome this crisis, and a matter of cooperation among people all over the world to be responsible not only to ourselves but also to our community.

NC coronavirus task force demonstrate how you catch coronavirus 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/fhr3ff/nc_coronavirus_task_force_demonstrate_how_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

China's central government is the most organized and powerful government in the world.  Once they stepped  in and pushed the local government aside, things got under control remarkably quick.   I don't think these western countries will be able to keep this from spreading the way they did. 

You don't know that this virus also damages male's fertility.

Hubei province(whose capital is Wuhan) gov website once suggested all the affected males within age range to do a fertility check. Then that post was removed just in time not to cause a wide panic.

I would definitely like to lead a glorious lifestyle.

How would one start on the road to this goal?

After a long conversation with some medical experts now I know its more than a flu,Corona damages multiple internal organs at the same time so it is not possible to change or treat multiple organs at the same time that is why the death rate is getting more furious.It gets transferred so quick and now there are news coming up hand sanitizers are completely remove these viruses so don't feel so protected after washing your hands.

The Corona Virus is an epidemic infectious disease that enters the body of another person but it's not as dangerous. the number of deaths was so high that folks didn't know it within the beginning but now its effects have decreased greatly and therefore the number of medicines has been discovered to cure most are recovering and there's nothing to panic about.

@josephsonand I’ll second that as many people now, are recovering after first testing positive for COVID-19  which  only means that people are being fooled into believing that once a person gets this virus he’s certain to die. @Cnut237 there’s no doubt that this virus is a grave threat but people need to understand that not all will die if they get infected, because with proper care this virus threat can be eliminated from the infected persons body.

Sources:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/First-coronavirus-patient-discharged-from-CUH-after-making-full-recovery-d2a43e93-9ce2-49ab-86b0-8004ef85de3b-ds

https://globalnews.ca/news/6659821/coronavirus-recovery-symptoms-hospital/

https://www.businessinsider.in/science/news/china-has-recorded-more-fully-recovered-coronavirus-patients-than-people-still-infected-suggesting-it-is-overcoming-the-epidemic/articleshow/74445752.cms

If it's an order of magnitude more deadly than flu, and it is also more readily transmissible, then it should be considered a serious threat.

The basic reproduction number (R0), is the average number of other people that someone with a virus will themselves infect. The R0 for coronavirus isn't yet fully determined, but does appear to be around 2-3, which is considerably higher than normal flu. You're right that panic is counter-productive, but this is a big threat and should be treated as such.

You're right! I just noticed that there were many bigger pandemics those killed tens of millions of people in the past. Corona virus has high spreading ratio and speed, but not really dangerous. Over 50% infected people over the world have recovered and only 3.7% died. We just need to be careful but not panic.

Exactly. Governments are notoriously reactive instead of pro-active. I understand why they are hesitant to implement quarantine procedures; it is a drastic action to take, and impacts the economy. But waiting for an outbreak to occur before initiating a quarantine is counter-productive. The virus is spreading, it will reach everywhere sooner or later. It has a 5 day incubation period. If you wait until there is an outbreak before starting the quarantine, then you are too late, infected people have been spreading for 5 days already. Far better to implement quarantine earlier.

This virus is not as dangerous as many people think. Mortality from coronavirus is about 3-5%, and mortality from the ordinary flu is about 0.5%. But it is important to understand that, according to statistics, 90% of coronavirus deaths are old people who have poor immunity. Therefore, if you are a middle-aged person, if you lead a more or less glorious lifestyle, then even if you become infected with this virus, you will most likely recover.

I found an interesting article about blockchain and this virus, the conclusion is that the platform have a function in providing corona virus treatment with blockchain through medical supply donation portal to support hospitals in China.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-as-a-tool-to-combat-coronavirus/amp?__twitter_impression=true

It's should be a Pandemic earlier. Many EURO countries are still hesitant, listless in prevent the corona spreading. They are still racist aimed at Asians instead. They should to aimed their act at the virus.

'The human race is in grave danger of stupidity, not coronavirus' - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/278419-2020-03-11-dawn-neesom-the-human-race-is-in-grave-danger-of.htm.





 

Source: https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/11/who-declares-the-coronavirus-outbreak-a-pandemic/

Security measures and advises from WHO official site: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its really sad situation now, everyone brace yourself to face the virus attack,make yourself more warm and secured from anyone and anything.