Topic: Who do you think will win the 2020 election? (Read 692 times)

I do have to hand it to the Dems, to front a groupthinked club of candidates who succeed in making Trump look like the voice of sanity and reason.

Williamson is wise and definitely has a lot to offer. I hope she gets more exposure,  and what ever happens I hope she stays in politics. I was thinking she'd make a great secretary of state, or another member of the cabinet...For instances, she would make a great Sectrtary of Education. She has a real grip and clarity of the real history of the U.S. and how it impacts us.

Gabbard is a favorite, I think she will go far. But also every day, Harris is looking very insightful. When said she wants to concentrate on the things that keep us up at night with worry, like our health, our families health, or how as are going make ends meet, and have enough to retire on, so we are not below the poverty line, she hit the nail on the head.
So for me Gabbard Harris, Williamson, and also I am keeping an eye on Michael Bennet. He is sounding really promising.

Biden, should step down. He's is a good guy, but needs to retire...into the background and be a consultant, if anybody needs one.

I agree with you.
Democrats have to many candidates for the presidential election, around 20 if I remember well.
I think they will be exhausting each other in an intra-party war while Trump will watch it quietly and enjoy it.
They will get tired from pre election conflicts and I'm not sure how much energy and power they will have left to fight with Trump, specially ''sleepy'' Joe

 

So you don't like "one legged crippled orphans of climate change."

Bowing to your obsession with Jewish Jews Jude Zion, I offered "Zombies of Zion."

That's good enough to be a movie.

Now run back to your puppet masters and tell them you want to go modern and stop using 1960s anti-jew polemics. They don't know any better, you see.

Unhealthy? He looks younger than all the other candidates. That Biden guy looks extremely sleepy and 'low energy' as Trump calls them. No one of them seem to have any chance, in my opinion. I would not vote for any of them regardless of their political party.

I fully support Williamson ! Why? you should really listen to her official announcement speech ! she is the only one (with gabbard) to understand that something is wrong on the issue of health (gmo, electrosmog, toxic vaccines for the proles / clean one for the elites and most importantly she gets the forces seeking to end Mankind, furthermore she is the last chance of this boomer generations to do something great.

For now trump has only been talk... What has he done but his tax cut and money repatriation program? Please sell me something? yeah, he didn't nuked NK (could he really with PLA on it's backyard + Russia), nor Iran (combo Afgh + Irak + worldwide sleeper cells) and he didn't do shit in Venezuela. Concerning the infrastructure his only success has been to allow gmo frankenfood to be manufacture in the usa like the frankensalmon... yes Ivanka could pimp her boobs on the world stage, but apart that? Do I see a WALL? WHO IS GONNA PAY FOR IT? Do I see the VIP PEDOGANGS of the podestas, clintons, epstein and weinstein executed? In russia killing an oligarch gone berzek has never been a problem, even tsar kiddies are killed. But it's too hard for american lobotomized by geriatric teletubbies... and about WTC7 any news? Do we know the nuketrails of the jetstream over the west coast? again...

A BIG F LIE !!! I think the guy is too lazy to just read his reports...

But yeah, if keeping out of losing wars is his only achievements, it's already a great step for a fucked up nation like the USA !

Long Live Russia, the true land of the free where you can ask : what is a muslim with a goat and a sheep...

and I forget the trade war with China, a total failure, in the sense that national economic patriotism is fully /ON ! how many trillions in debts and unfounded liabilities?... pretending to be christians will not save the usa, but killing the Foreign and Domestic enemies, and among them are those who make the children and everyone sick for their own little profits... but for that you need an INTELLIGENCE STATE !!! aka the KGB rebirth, or the Chinese Admin and it's scale brutality !

muslims going on rampage in China? no worry, Camps + project rewiring, and if it fails, organ banks... win - win ! no mercy, what dirty weaklet of america can't do about those who pulled down WTC7 (the AP footage is awesome) !

growing muscle to impress hypergamists whores while playing the fiat casino gulag economy, may assure you offsprings, but they will be slaved, and forced vaccinated like cattles, or debt slaves, ssnized.

myself I believe that trump isn't too weak to kill his enemies (clintons and co) but just play the fools in making them believe he is with them (the best fool is alex jones) like obamas did for many people... but at least the dark emperor said NO to frankenfish, tried to improve the feed and used drones intensively to clear (by multitapping, 1, then the others, 3 the rescues, until their screams stops), which this CiC is too weak to do...

america has better to offer than trump, even gabbard would be better... and the little asian dude fan of maths at least is smart....

but if williamson can apply mattew 11 to the enemies of love, kill the vip pedo, move on to declassify 911 and go after those having committed it... maybe america will have a future.... otherwise, it has already been trademarked !

Trump seems really unhealthy, not sure if he will even live that long.

My bet is on Yang because of the whole UBI angle.

Trump. Joe Biden will probably end up being the Democratic candidate and Trump will beat him. Trump has done a good job, and for me personally, the Joe Biden touching woman and smelling their hair fiasco creeped me out.

Trump'll win. He's probably already been cloned just in case he dies from unknown causes.

 

There is only one country who gets our top amount of support.  I read that it is something like $40,000 per Israeli.

There is only one country who has an AIPAC who almost all of our politicians bow down to, and it doesn't even have to register as an agent of foreign influence.

There is one country who's enemies the U.S. military is always ready to fight for.  Even when the Israeli military is unwilling to risk their own blood.

If any other country parasitized us 10% of the amount that Zionist Israel does, or controlled 10% as many of our politicians that Zionists do, I would be bothered as an American.  Your deflection might get some traction except for the vast number of in-your-face observations that anyone could make.

You can substitute anything you like for the back room power brokers. Call them white, black, Japanese. I strongly suggest you call them one legged crippled orphans of climate change. Or reptilian alien mutants from Borgville, Cambodia.  By the way, Zionist "puppets" is so passe. How about Zombies of Zion?

Absolutely right, the other candidates are a bunch of "low energy" people as trump calls them. I personally like trump but even if i didnt, how in the world would you vote for the other guys? They are simply awful.

If Trump keeps nixing attacks on Iran and sending John Bolton to Outer Mongolia when he meets with potential bombing targets he could easily lose what's left of the 2016 election.

Probably just a stage show, but these are a couple of outwardly seeming pretty good signs on Trump's part.  If he meets and ignominious end at the hands of the Zionists then we will have some evidence that the guy had a 'for real' side to his nature.  Unfortunately not until then.

Considering how awful the democrats candidates are in their majority and that the stupid US system is basically a 1v1 Rep vs Dem I don't see how Trump could lose.

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Yeah, 'white' guys.  On election day we'll get a choice between two Zionist puppets just like we've had since before Carter.  He's the last guy who even dared to mildly mention what everyone knows...safely after he had any real power of course.

Our (and many other nation's) condition is the direct and inevitable result of having a privately held central bank which controls our money supply.  If the owners of said bank had a 'special' feeling for Bhutan, Bhutan and the U.S. would have a 'special relationship' and most of our government and society would be focused on furthering the goals of Bhutan.

If Gabbard is one of the presidential finalists, I'll think as likely as not that Gabbard is a deep plant just like I was suspicious of Trump.  I still might take a chance on her (as with Trump) just in case, but I no longer vote in national elections.  It's simply to much of a fraud.

But those back room power brokers, you know, the fat old white guys that are picking out a puppet, the ones that last time picked Hillary, this time who will they pick?

Because they don't care what you or the people want.

Before when I posted it was looking dismal..and thought maybe Bernie and Gabbard, but after last nights debate I have new hope.

Those women were on fire! So Kamala Harris mopped up the floor with Biden. Marianne Williamson was strong, and the previous night Gabbard took control.

Now I'm thinking this was Trump's gift to polarize us to the point we have to think differently.  Let the pendulum swing to the other side with a woman President and woman vice Preaident. They are the strongest candidates now by far on the dem side. Harris/Gabbard ticket with Williamson as Secretary of state.  I say they got a shot.

Trump is going to win. He has shown to be a good President. With the economy and jobs on a surge. Some people were expecting doom. I doubt those people will change their mind though.

I think Trump will win the election. because he has a different kind of propaganda and the method too.

The FuckOffers are a Yuge voting block.

Yeah might as well forget about polls. As you said, last time most of them were showing hillary winning by a lot. I saw even a 90% win ratio for hillary on live tv lol. I mean if they were to ask me on the street, which candidate am i going to vote for, i will probably just tell them to fuck off.

Of course, anything could still happen, but its encouraging for the Dems that all of their top candidates are shown as beating Trump in a Fox News poll.  



IIRC Fox News also showed Hillary beating Trump through much of the election, so make of it what you will. The only poll that was consistently correct in forecasting the election results was one done by USC and the L.A. Times, interestingly.

...keep pushing for a sure loser.

Right now the governors of the States meet via communications on a regular basis. They discuss and implement all kinds of things based on their communications.

It's much easier for the people of the States to control their governors than it is for any of them to control the president. In fact, the media spotlight focus is the thing that keeps the people focused on the Federal Government, so that they ignore a lot that goes on in their State.

If the Federal Government were gone (Kokesh platform), people would focus on their State governor more. Most things would become way more advantageous for the people because of the greater control they have over their governors.

Like I said, we'll get some Zionist tool.  Kokesh would certainly fit the bill.

Who will win? Adam Kokesh - https://kokeshforpresident.com/.

I don't live in the US so it's not easy to gauge but I think Trump have a greater chance. The Dems can't see to get their house together.

The push to censor social media could also have an effect. Sure they might be able to better control the narrative but these content creators had backup channels and people will find out whenever they had a video taken down.

It's starting to look like a witch hunt and that could push even centrists towards the right side.

Why would anyone think that Socialism is a good idea?  That's another conversation but who are you to say that they're voting against their interests?

You mean those who think that a big-one-size-fits-all-government know better? Guns are the last protection against an over-encroaching government. We're going through the American version of the Chinese Cultural Revolution's "Get Rid of the Four Olds" with ANTIFA playing the role of the Red Guard. Thankfully we're armed. If you remember correctly tens of millions died in the re-education camps.

But, you think, I'm voting against my interests. Aren't you the self-righteous know it all. And the issue with immigrants isn't that they're taking the jobs - and contrary to the swill that the MSM is feeding you there aren't jobs that Americans aren't willing to do. (We have the stats - there isn't any job category out of the 150+ categories that immigrants have over 50% of the jobs. And, from the way the media makes it sound you would think that immigrants hold 90+% of those jobs instead of the far less than 50%

However, if you actually read your Marx, Engels and Lenin you would know that the illegal immigrant population function as the industrial reserve army which keeps wages down. Even people like Bernie was arguing that only a few years ago before they left the old-fashioned communist "left" and became swept up by the "intersectional" movement.  And I hope you do know that there are about 1,500,000 LEGAL immigrants coming every year.

So, your argument about class interest and Trump's appeal falls flat.  Trump has taken a 1980s Democrat position of being against globalization; that companies should not be rewarded for finding the cheapest place for labor, with the most relaxed labor laws etc... Right now the tax code enables companies to leave and set up shop elsewhere. For the first time since NAFTA and the explosion of globalism in the 1990s we're seeing a president that is in favor of the US working man.

Bombs leave smoking craters.  Of course there are more than a few people around the world who would welcome that eventuality.

I am not an US citizen, but i have watched a lot of Bernie Sanders interviews. Conclusion form them is that Bernie Sanders is the BOMB.
I hope that he will have a chance at presidency.

Some Zio-cuck will win.  That's all we are allowed these days, and it is all one really needs to know.

Some candidates may destroy the country faster in one area and a different one faster in a different area.  I would say 'pick your poison' but in reality we peeps don't have a lot of choice anyway.

We are currently in the phase of being looted and 'wired' for demolition.  Our goal on the planet (setting up for a certain other chosen peoples to be a 'light unto the nations') is almost complete, or at least good enough.  People will wake up after the shaped charges and nano-thermite are set off.  Only then will we be able to assess what is left to salvage.

LOL @ the utopians still thinking Bernie has a chance. Bernie HAD a chance, but he bent over and let Killery hijack it from him without so much as a peep. As a result a large portion of his base rejected him in favor of Trump. Even most utopians know our president needs to have a spine...

But why would you want/need to convince them? Are you smarter than them?

Can they not figure things out on their own?

despite im a libertarian joe biden would be the best variant at these elections, cuz trump has gone mad after his protectionism-politics, and lp us is retarded already for about 5 years, while other democrats with a lot of support from the electors are braindead socialists
but the best options at this elections imo is agorism, ignorance of this elections

I agree Nutildah that Bernie Sanders and Tulsi  Gabbard would be a dream team, and would have the best shot for the democrats to win the election. Bernie's age doesn't detract from his appeal and in fact might help. He has a lot of energy and he's crystal clear about what he stands for. I think if anybody can reach the republican working class, he can. He's so passionate about the working class and gets people fired up with some hope and enthusiasm.

Tulsi would add the perfect touch to the dem. ticket. She' a intelligent, bright, attractive, and comes across relaxed and graceful. She doesn't appear to have any of that excessive confrontational snarkiness,  so I don't think she would be ridiculed as Palin was.  

And she hasn't been around long enough to be as polarizing, and hated as Hilary was. Plus Amerca can more likely handle a female Vice President, first.. Baby steps.

Also Tulsi, with a Samoan/European, raised in Samoa, a practicing Hindu, and an Iraq war veteran, to boot, is huge plus for a diverse cross-section of voters. Hindus and Vets that are Trump supporters might be persuaded to switch and support her. So I agree this would be an excellent democratic ticket. And I will be excited and have hope for a victory.

I'm not sure the Dems would be that daring. But I Hope so! If they wake up and smell the coffee instead of trying to play it too safe with Biden, or one of the other lackluster candidate. I don't have anything against them but I don't think they would win against Trump either.

Yes, people who call Obama and Biden socialists will always vote Republican. However, centrists in swing states who would vote for a moderate democrat like Clinton or Obama might instead refuse to vote at all if Sanders was the only option.


Left-wing populism might work in South America and Europe but I doubt it would work in the States.

The American white working class who probably stand to benefit most from socialist and social democratic policies is also well known for voting against their interests. They are the kind of people who drink beer, shoot guns, and go to church on Sundays. As Trump shows, it's easy to convince them that illegal immigrants taking their jobs are the source of their problems. Convincing them that the capitalist class structure is what failed them is going to be a much harder sell.

I think Trump might win but if he does, it's likely due to the backlash from the very obvious attempt by Silicon Valley elites and the MSM to stomp out conservatives on social media. People are stupid, they'd notice. Might be enough to push people on the center towards the right.

If it were a bet, I would put my money on Bernie. He may be old but he's really got his shit together, enough so to motivate the youngest generation of voters. There's no doubt in my mind that if Bernie would have been the democratic nominee last time around, he would be president right now.

The debates will really help sort things out. If Bernie shines there and brings a message that really resonated with people as he did last time, he's gonna squash Trump. The only reason Trump won is because there was such a bad reaction to Hillary being the dem candidate. She turned off a lot of dem voters and inspired a lot of repubs who otherwise might have sat on the couch to go out and vote against her.

Bernie will be helped by a contingency of voters coming out of the woodwork who want to ensure that we won't get Trump again. I doubt Biden fans would sit the election out if Bernie became the nominee, however, if Biden is the nominee a lot of Bernie fans will probably sit it out. Biden is too crusty and establishment-entrenched. He's a turnoff to anybody who is inspired by the thought of "real change".

As we can see with Obama and now Trump, there is no "real change," only the illusion of change. But Biden doesn't even carry the illusion.

Bernie all the way.

Bonus points if he picks Tulsi Gabbard as his running mate. Think about it:

- first Jewish president
- first female vice president

That combo has to inspire a lot of people. The people who find it uninspiring would probably vote Republican anyway.

You can't just base the whole logic on previous elections because Sanders on the ballot would change the map completely.  The people turned off by socialism are already voting for Trump and will ultimately label any democrat even biden as a socialist.  Obama was a muslim socialist in their eyes.   You have to remember that most of the left don't vote and haen't voted for a long time because no one in contention in our lifetime has been anywhere near the left. Sanders is the only one who combines populism with an economic approach that appeals to everyday people.  He can do the same thing as Trump but capitalism is the scapegoat instead of mexicans.  

That is actually the only way they can take back the senate.  2008 Obama brought out new voters like no other and changed the map.  Biden is just as bad as Trump.  He's also promising to cure cancer if you elect him because he knows no one is excited or motivated to replace Trump with a dem Trump.

Outside of the youth vote, anti-socialist sentiment in the US is too strong for a Sanders win, in my opinion. Biden has more of a chance and his association with the Obama administration will benefit his campaign, but he is also a weaker candidate compared to Obama. Incumbent presidents tend to have an advantage when it comes to winning elections so I think a Trump win is the most likely outcome.

Also with Sanders being 78, Biden being 77, Trump being 73, and Warren being 70 next year, this will probably be the most elderly US presidential election by far.

Very interesting points. I agree to all of them.
The swing States that helped trump win aren't in the favor of him, atleast that's what is observed recently.

I also feel that many took the 2016 elections granted for the dems as they knew it was a cake walk for Hillary and didn't even bother to vote due to laziness...

The Dems will avoid the mistakes they did in 2016. Hillary was indeed a very overconfident candidate. Her entire campaign was full of only anti-trump talks. And she even posted "happy birthday to the future president" to wish herself happy birthday prior to election. So, if another Hillary is avoided to win nomination, Dems have a good chance.

Kind of obvious why trump won. If the Dems avoid the mistakes of 2016, I wouldn't doubt that trump will get a tough fight or even lose.

Wonder what he will tweet if he loses

I want Trump to win, but I am afraid that his chances are lower than what he had in 2016. Here are some of my concerns:

1. The rust-belt (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.etc) have shown a clear pro-Democrat tilt during the recent senatorial elections. GOP is very weak in this region now.

2. States such as Arizona and Nevada have become pro-Democrat, due to the rising Hispanic population. Even Texas is not 100% safe territory for GOP.

3. Amendment 4 has restored voting rights for 1.4 million felons in Florida. As we all know, this is a very loyal Democratic voting bloc. And Florida elections have been always tight, with the margins usually lower than 100,000. Some 1.4 million votes can make a lot of difference.

4. Democrats are pushing forward with their plans to register as many new voters as possible. Regardless of the race, younger voters have a preference for the Dems.

5. The GOP voters are not that fired up, unlike the case in 2016. Back in 2016, many of them were fed up with Obama's 8 year presidency and were determined to get a Republican elected as the president.

6. This time I have a feeling that the Democrats will not nominate someone who is simply not electable, as they did in 2016. 

Didn't know that, sry

you need to check history facts . Till now 10 President lost the re election .

https://www.thoughtco.com/one-term-us-presidents-3322257

The people have no options. It's an Idiot vs the evil. Go with Trump.

Trump!     

The erasing of conservative voices from Google, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest is the beginning of the attempt to steal the 2020 election.

Without those factors, Trump would have an easy win. i believe he will win regardless, because people see and understand what's happening.

What? The Constitution gives no maximum age so, yes he is allowed to participate.

And his two main rivals in the Democratic Party are older than him so age is irrelevant even in the political sense.

If they pick Ron Paul, there is hope for this world.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vote-ron-paul-2020-he-will-make-it-so-you-can-vote-yourself-2022-5144607

I am not even American and I can see this is the most logical choice. Do not vote for the "I like math guy" Andrew Yang he will escalate the internal bleeding more by giving everyone 1k. Do not vote for Trump he will use over 100million on golf trips and hamburderdgs. Do not vote for Hillary unless you would like to die in the next 4 years.

The thing is, the elections are 100% rigged LOL! Ron Paul spread the word for real, this guy will make it so you can vote yourself and build back up citys for people, give the working class food water and shelter instead of wasting the tax pay money on warmachines and invading other country`s, He is a good man.

Ron Paul is the only person with balls to call out the fed, think about that.

Trump is so old. Will he even be allowed to participate?

American always give a second chance to their seating president and it is clear that Trump will win the next election. I do not believe in the media propagation about the current administration and to me Trump has really done well and he deserves a second chance to complete what he has started.

I think Trump. I am not seeing anyone that is putting any formidable opposition to him.

There's very little chance that any of the Democrats will beat Trump. He has his base sown up. The Never Trumpers on the Republican side see that business is going well. The economy hasn't tanked and will hold their nose and vote for him. This means that he can win with the same coalition. The Rust Belt Dems see that Trump has kept his promises and if the Dems go farther left than Biden, and if they abandon the Pro-Life Dems as it looks like -  then Ohio will turn Red. It won't be a toss-up. And Pennsylvania and Michigan would turn from lean Blue to lean Red.

I think Trump has recaptured Virginia (it was a close loss) and toss in the troubles the Virginia Dems have I put that state in the Trump column.

That means Trump needs to win only one of Michigan, Pennsylvania or Florida.

It's a Trump win - and big - if it's any body but Biden. And even with Biden it will be a Trump win.

Not only that but the Republicans win back the House and hold the Senate.

I can confirm, the people will not win, but a person, and that person will do things they said they would not do, and the things they said they would do they won`t. That person will do what they want to do, when everyone could just vote on issues rather than voting someone to vote for them.

Trump: I will put her in jail.
get in: O look, Hilary still not in jail.

Obama: I will remove the troops.
gets in: I am sending in more troops.

 

Short of some catastrophic economic collapse or WW3, there is no one who even has a chance of beating Donald Trump. Even if these things happen I still think he has a good shot.

Trump will easily win four more years as those who’re contesting against him are not strong candidates, and they’ll keep on fighting within themselves which will give further advantage to Trump. Hillary wasn’t a terrible opponent, but she lacked support within her own party which led to her downfall. If you wish to see his fan base then just type trump fans on Facebook, you’ll see he has millions of fans in various groups which are supporting him.

Donald Trump or Rand Paul.

Democracy continues to be undermined across the world. Unfettered capitalism produces ever-greater inequality, leading to huge sections of the population feeling disenfranchised and disempowered. People want someone to blame, and right-wing populists are enjoying huge success by appealing to people's baser prejudices. They create some arbitrary scapegoat, often 'foreigners', and then instead of coherent policy they employ effective soundbites (and increasingly social media) to rail against this imagined opposition. It is being replicated across the western world. Where the US leads, others follow.

I hope Trump doesn't win, but I have a horrible suspicion that he will.

Will we see the power change and dems take it or will Trump get another four years?

More like 23 Democrats have confirmed they are going to run for presidency.

Who do you think will have the best chance against Trump?

Is Trump easy to beat and he only won because Hillary was a terrible opponent or did he really had a very silent base with which he would have beaten any other democrat candidate?

Bernie Sanders and Biden are the most popular running aspirants from the left, do you think they can trump the Trump?

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