Who is responsible for blocking youtube in Russia?

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 13, 2024, 06:26:18 PM

LTU BTC is right, YouTube didn't removed khazin and other Russian or pro putin channels. I have to check and see it myself and I can say that khazin's channel and videos are still there. And even posted 2 days ago and got 154k views. About who owns YouTube, it is Google LLC (Alphabet INC). The CEO is Sundar Pichai. While the CEO of Youtube, the former was Wojcicki and the current is Neal Mohan. Their information are on public.

Yes I am sorry if my words were not so truthfull. I remember that Khazin was blocked previously, now he seems to be unblocked, and probably the reason is that Russia threatened blocking youtube during last years if youtube blocks pro-putin bloggers. But Soloviev and Shaman are probably still blocked. Ironically, Putin seems to be fighting for the freeedom of speech on youtube). And sorry if my English is bad.

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This is an answer that can be very simple, like Youtube is blocked by the country itself, so, simple with a DNS block, etc. but this is within anyone's reach, one can block access to any domain, but the issue is when this is imposed by a government.

Then, each content creator, any user can decide where their content can be seen.

And then we have what is called blocking by Domains, like Youtube for geopolitical or copyright reasons, etc. but in general social networks are blocked by Authoritarian Governments.

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Quote from: PatrikStar on August 14, 2024, 02:31:38 AM

And what else to do with the aggressor? Just block all his freaks and propagandists. I think YouTube is right here, but Russia is putting pressure on "freedom of speech", although what can it have to do with the killer!?

It would be quite ironic if the Russia was caught asking YouTube (a nortamerican company) for freedom of speech when comes to posting and sharing their videos when within the Russian Federation itself it is almost impossible to have the rights to say what one truly believes. It only shows of fragile democracy and actual freedom of speech is in the world.
It only takes a look to some characters like Tucker Carlson who is almost openly pro-Russian and fiercely criticizes the government of Joe Biden. If he was born in Russian and dared to question the Russian goverment in the same manner he does to the USA government, he would have been executed a long time ago, in my opinion.

It is all about pushing Russian propaganda into the west, while at the same time people in Russia is not allowed to hear anything pro-Ukraine from the USA or the European Union.

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And what else to do with the aggressor? Just block all his freaks and propagandists. I think YouTube is right here, but Russia is putting pressure on "freedom of speech", although what can it have to do with the killer!?

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LTU BTC is right, YouTube didn't removed khazin and other Russian or pro putin channels. I have to check and see it myself and I can say that khazin's channel and videos are still there. And even posted 2 days ago and got 154k views. About who owns YouTube, it is Google LLC (Alphabet INC). The CEO is Sundar Pichai. While the CEO of Youtube, the former was Wojcicki and the current is Neal Mohan. Their information are on public.

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First of all, Youtube isn't blocked in Russia. Few days ago it wasn't working on some internet providers or was working slowly. So far there is no decree released with requirement to block Youtube. We hear similar rumours probabli since beginning of war, but so far it didn't turned into reality.
You can call blocking pro-Russian videos as censorship, but Youtube isn't obligated to keep such content. Especially when creators of such content is under sanctions.

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Quote from: Ishicryptic on August 12, 2024, 07:28:34 AM

It clearly shows that the people who owns YouTube or it's major shareholders and decision makers are anti Putin, or they are against Russian invasion of Ukraine. They probably don't like the pro Russian videos that are coming from their influencers and they had to vote against them. In that regard you can't blame Russia, for blocking YouTube, as it's a matter of their national interest. But what we don't know for certain is whether the average Russian supports their country's decision to ban YouTube? The important question now is not about who is responsible for blocking YouTube in Russia, but if they have a standard alternative to YouTube, so that the country is not left behind in the importance and advantages of the likes of YouTube.

I see you are an anti-democrat (not a fan of the freedom of speech). But in fact, the conflict between Russia and Ukraine has only one main aspect - whether the western democraty will win, or the eastern despotism.

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Quote from: Scarabus on August 08, 2024, 06:00:05 AM

The Russian authorities have started blocking youtube. They say that the reason is that youtube owners block pro-Putin channels in it (Soloviev, Khazin, Shaman, etc). So it seems that the owners of youtube block these pro-putin bloggers despite these actions lead to a full blocking of youtube in Russia. So I want to ask - who owns youtube and chooses these decisions?
I have heard that the owners of all big companies in the West have to sell the majority of shares of their companies to some funds belonging to "300 families" (as an example - a story when Steve Jobbs was fired from hiw own company Apple). Is that true?

It clearly shows that the people who owns YouTube or it's major shareholders and decision makers are anti Putin, or they are against Russian invasion of Ukraine. They probably don't like the pro Russian videos that are coming from their influencers and they had to vote against them. In that regard you can't blame Russia, for blocking YouTube, as it's a matter of their national interest. But what we don't know for certain is whether the average Russian supports their country's decision to ban YouTube? The important question now is not about who is responsible for blocking YouTube in Russia, but if they have a standard alternative to YouTube, so that the country is not left behind in the importance and advantages of the likes of YouTube.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 09, 2024, 10:43:16 AM

taken by an executive within the administration of Youtube in order to comply with some orders coming from the government of the United States.

Sounds funny: not the US laws but the orders of some Big Men in the US, maybe "300 families"?

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I wonder if the Kremlin will launch their own alternative to YouTube for the Russian people to enjoy their videos and content...

Of course there are such alternatives to youtube in Russia - rutube and VK Video, but I suppose that the Russians are unconsciously resisting the authorities' attempts to transfer them from YouTube to these alternatives.

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I guess it was just matter of time before Russia dared to block YouTube, honestly it was taking them very long, considering how swift YouTube is blocked pro-puting content.
As others have already said, Google is a publicly traded company and ultimately important choices are taken by a majority of shareholders, but it would seems possible for me this decision to have been taken by an executive within the administration of Youtube in order to comply with some orders coming from the government of the United States.

Since the beginning of the senseless war in Ukraine, it has become obvious Biden cares to diminish the follow of Russian propaganda and misinformation on the internet, specially in media which is massively visited by Americans, YouTube is a good example.
I wonder if the Kremlin will launch their own alternative to YouTube for the Russian people to enjoy their videos and content...

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Quote from: Scarabus on August 08, 2024, 06:00:05 AM

The Russian authorities have started blocking youtube. They say that the reason is that youtube owners block pro-Putin channels in it (Soloviev, Khazin, Shaman, etc). So it seems that the owners of youtube block these pro-putin bloggers despite these actions lead to a full blocking of youtube in Russia. So I want to ask - who owns youtube and chooses these decisions?

Youtube is a company under Google and it’s them who makes these decisions. It’s not just one person but rather and most probably hundreds of people of different teams. How they choose to block or restrict content would most likely depend on different factors and each factor would be considered by a team different than that of another factor’s. So it’s a lot of teams working together. This company is huge afterall.

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I have heard that the owners of all big companies in the West have to sell the majority of shares of their companies to some funds belonging to "300 families" (as an example - a story when Steve Jobbs was fired from hiw own company Apple). Is that true?

These some families most likely own some shares but not enough to be of control of the actual decision making processes. The leaders and shareholders would still be the one in control of all decisions to be made.

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All big companies in US needs to closely work with the security agencies providing users data and making changes according to the way they want. Youtube is a propoganda machine for the US. It has no economic advantage staying in Russia but the influence. Youtube as a business won't have much effect even though they get banned in Russia as they don't generate any revenue from the operation.

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The Russian authorities have started blocking youtube. They say that the reason is that youtube owners block pro-Putin channels in it (Soloviev, Khazin, Shaman, etc). So it seems that the owners of youtube block these pro-putin bloggers despite these actions lead to a full blocking of youtube in Russia. So I want to ask - who owns youtube and chooses these decisions?
I have heard that the owners of all big companies in the West have to sell the majority of shares of their companies to some funds belonging to "300 families" (as an example - a story when Steve Jobbs was fired from hiw own company Apple). Is that true?

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