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August 10, 2018, 03:22:17 PM
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Before determining who is responsible for poverty, we must look at two different views on poverty. because different approaches often give rise to different views about the roots of poverty.

First, Supporters of the government's tough actions see poverty as a result of social and economic conditions. They argue that malnutrition, poor schools, family breakdowns, discrimination, lack of employment opportunities, and a bad environment are the main determinants of poverty. If you adhere to this view, you will strongly support the idea that the government is responsible for eliminating poverty whether by giving income to the poor directly (transfer) or by correcting conditions that cause poverty (policy). This means that the State is not only responsible for security issues, but also responsible for the maintenance of the weak and those who need it and ensure a decent life for them.

The second opinion says that poverty grows from individual behavior that is not adaptive, the behavior is an individual responsibility and can only be improved by the poor themselves. Sometimes the government is blamed for fostering dependency on patchy government programs that kill individual initiatives. Critics who have this view recommend that the government should reduce the welfare program so that people will develop their own resources.

Analysis of poverty issues and welfare systems is divided into these two extreme categories. therefore, I think that the government and the society both have responsibility for poverty, both must have the same commitment and must coordinate with each other in order to eliminate or at least reduce poverty.

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Mostly the government are to be blamed as a result of the fact that they do not implement policies that will aid the people who has voted them in the first place.
On the other hand,  the people take the blame when they can not stand up to challenge the fact that the government doesnt live up to its expectation
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The truth is we all have a role to play. We all should be held responsible. We all can do better. If the masses move in a particular direction consistently for a couple of years, the government would also join in in no time. The problem in most poor countries is that the people leave too much to the leadership. Many of us can actually change a lot in our little ways. We just need to try. Tiny drops end up making an ocean.
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I think that poverty needs to be properly addressed through a collective effort of both the government and the people. The solution to this issue cannot be executed by one party alone. Hence, even though the govenment strongly implementing laws and programs to eradicate or lessen the poverty in our country, if people, still do not find ways to make their lives better, nothing will happen. Likewise, even though the people are doing everything that they can in order for them not to experience poverty anymore, if the government os corrupt and doesn't care about the welfare of the people, nothing also will happen. Thus, the government and the people must exert an efforr in order to solve this dilemma.

Right. Sometimes it's the government, but very often it's both. So, I totally agree that both the government and the people must do their best to solve this issue.
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In this life you can only blame yourself. I consider it weak to blame the government. In actual fact it doesn't matter who is in power, your salary will not increase by 1 cent. It depends on yourself, on your your determination and will power. The more you invest yourself the better chance you have to help yourself out of the sitation. When you take responsibility for your life the universe will help you move forward, taking responsibility opens up your life stream allowing energy to freely flow so that you can take action.
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Poverty is one of the global conflicts that every country faces wherein cooperation from both its citizens and the one governing is crucially demanded. But despite the efforts of most countries, poverty still knocks at the doorsteps of every family and conflicts between the government and the people are always being talked about. Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?

Well, obviously both the people and government need to change their ways. However, the government, being the one in charge of leading its people, should be held more liable for whatever happens to the country. The majority of the countries around the world have already been accustomed to governmental/political corruption as if it were normal as breathing air.  If only the funds were going to the right places and not the politicians'. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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We do make quick judgement on the leaders but i will blame people.
Have we forgot that the people made up the Government.
Because of few cents/$/# as the case may be, the people will sell their votes for bad & corrupt people ,how do we expect a good Government from that?

People are those meant to be blamed.
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In my opinion, the political system itself is the culprit. The vertical of power is built in such a way that people who are ready to sacrifice their moral principles are more likely to succeed. That's a real negative selection. The system just perverts and encourages people to show their worst sides.
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Poverty is one of the global conflicts that every country faces wherein cooperation from both its citizens and the one governing is crucially demanded. But despite the efforts of most countries, poverty still knocks at the doorsteps of every family and conflicts between the government and the people are always being talked about. Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?
Poor and uneducated people are easy to control. Education is very expensive and not all people can afford it. People work in order to survive. Every day millions of people think how to feed the family and survive. People are unhappy. And instead of trying to change their lives for the better, people watch TV, believe the false news and politicians who are pummeling their brains. Poverty is very beneficial to the government.
That is why the answer to your question - only people can overcome poverty (material and spiritual).
You can't put it all the on the people. Of course, there are countries where the government gives the people so many opportunities, yet they still choose to be lazy and poor. Then I can see that, yes, that is the fault of the people. But, you have to realize that many countries have laws that are not in place to helps the poor people. They don't help create jobs or find jobs. They don't have reasonable minimum wages or good workplace safety laws. In these places, the fault is a lot more on the governments themselves.
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Poverty is one of the global conflicts that every country faces wherein cooperation from both its citizens and the one governing is crucially demanded. But despite the efforts of most countries, poverty still knocks at the doorsteps of every family and conflicts between the government and the people are always being talked about. Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?
Poor and uneducated people are easy to control. Education is very expensive and not all people can afford it. People work in order to survive. Every day millions of people think how to feed the family and survive. People are unhappy. And instead of trying to change their lives for the better, people watch TV, believe the false news and politicians who are pummeling their brains. Poverty is very beneficial to the government.
That is why the answer to your question - only people can overcome poverty (material and spiritual).
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Government wouldn't be on their position without its people. So who to blame? I think people who are incapable of deciding their real saviors. People who are merely looking at the social statuses of the candidates instead of their achievements. Yes, government are the ones who make this society. But we people are the ones who complete this society, to function and to lead. So we must act now.
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Government is the people but if the people are not empowered by the same government to take progressive and beneficial actions,then there will  never be development. One major issue is corruption which can best be fought by empowering the citizens to report any acts of corruption. The government also has to be honest to the people in all its dealings so that the nation can grow.Sometimes when citizens either refusal to vote or voting the wrong people into office then they will suffer the consequence. But how can you tell if someone will be honest after been given power?So this is a dicey area so I think that sometimes the government or the people are to blame when one gives so much trust to the other.
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The government should represent the people. In a way, the government should be the people. Unfortunately, we often we a big division between the government and the people. To fight against poverty, the people and the government need to work together. The people can't just sit around doing nothing and expect not to the be poor. They need to improve their qualifications and be ready to work. The government needs to put laws in place that will protect the workers in the country. They can implement minimum wages. They can lessen the take burden on low-income families. They can provide low/no-interest loans to students.
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As I would see it, there ought to be a joint effort between two parties to eradicate poverty in their nation. The administration ought to make more jobs locally, sign arrangements and financial guide to different nations to put resources into the nation or contract residential and gifted laborers. In favor of the general population, they should endeavor harder to pick up information through training and experience. When they have enough information, they have the ability to take complex occupations as we are in the modern age. On the off chance that the two gatherings did their employments, I feel that the poverty will be decrease, or sometime in the not so distant future, will be destroy until the end of time.
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According to my assumption, both government and citizens are to be blamed for poverty.
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It has always been misunderstood so i would like define what government is. Government is the system or group of people governing an organized community so government would not exist without people. If i were to decide who to blame the politicians (person holding or seeking office in government) or the poor i guess we should blame the politicians. People vote for politicians, and the politicians should make policy to eradicate poverty but most of them do not do what they supposed to do. Poor people are in poverty because they find themselves in holes in the economic system that deliver them inadequate income. Rather than blaming poor people for economic inequality, it’s more useful to look at what happens when the public actually is allowed to vote directly on tax hikes.  We should not view poverty as an individual phenomenon and say that it’s primarily their own fault that people are poor. Be careful about blaming the poor for their fates. We should stop victim blaming.
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I claim not to be the monopoly of wisdom or knowledge but I think the best way to answer such question is first understanding the context of the question. When we say government, do we mean the institution or the people who run the institution itself? If we are talking about the institution as government, then the blame will be on the system of the institution. But if we are talking about the people who run this institution, then the blame is on the people. And not only the elected one but also those who elected them too. We also need to consider the type of the governing system too. In a Dictatorship, many would basically point on one person. But in a Democracy, society is to blame because democracy simply means "Rule of the people,by the people and for the people". So the key stakeholders are the people and should be the first to take the blame.
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There is a saying that it takes two to tango. So for me, the government and its people should work hand and hand. Government provides while people use it accordingly. Sometimes we used to complain about our government but the thing is we must also work things out for ourself we must strive for the best.
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People are to be blamed especially when government of the day has created enabling environment for every form of legal business to take place. People are to be blamed if government provided conducive atmosphere for development as well as making Long lasting policies that will attract gigantic project and development in the nation.
Government has an entity should be blamed when it fails to make the necessary policies that will attract investors both local and foreign. Government should be blamed when it fails to actualize the purpose upon which it is voted for.

This is what should be done, we should BLAME GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS when they aren't doing (or at least, not trying to do) what they've been voted in to do. It's one thing to try and then fail, due to the nature of politics, but it's another thing to campaign with certain views -- and then change these views when you're in power.

I've spoken on this topic before, but we must continue to hold both sides accountable.

As the people do VOTE IN the government -- that's how DEMOCRATIC government works.
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People are to be blamed especially when government of the day has created enabling environment for every form of legal business to take place. People are to be blamed if government provided conducive atmosphere for development as well as making Long lasting policies that will attract gigantic project and development in the nation.
Government has an entity should be blamed when it fails to make the necessary policies that will attract investors both local and foreign. Government should be blamed when it fails to actualize the purpose upon which it is voted for.
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Poverty is very difficult to solve, not only citizens but even some countries are experiencing poverty. This is not only a problem for the country but it is our common problem and us as human beings to provide assistance to them. Sometimes government systems neglect to provide solutions to the poor and on average they do not care about eradicating poverty. I strongly agree with the vision of the mission of overcoming poverty, but it is unfortunate that many people cheat by using it. My advice if you want to give help to the poor, you have to see and go into the field to provide assistance to the poor.
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Poverty is one of the global conflicts that every country faces wherein cooperation from both its citizens and the one governing is crucially demanded. But despite the efforts of most countries, poverty still knocks at the doorsteps of every family and conflicts between the government and the people are always being talked about. Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?
Well Both of them need to cooperate government and the citizens as long it is a one sided it will be never be balance. some of the politicians yes we can say theyre good but with people who lacks at descipline the effort will be wasted. in same opposite scenario people have a discpline but most of the politicians always think on their own wallets, corruption and anything that keeps theyre wallet full. I know theres a lot of country does succeed it and  the reason is the cooperation of both side. Smiley
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Both the people and the government needs to change and try to combat poverty.
It's a problem that has existed for a very long time with a long history. There are problems
that coincide and go along with poverty, the famous ones are crimes and corruption.
As long as this elements exists and continue to deprive the real solution for poverty,
it's just gonna get worse and worse.
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It matters what country we're in and the system of government and the power of that system of government. Lets take the United States for instance, I would say that you're not able to blame the government for financial hardships as you're the ones (the people) are the ones that are electing the very people who are controlling the government and are setting forth policy.

This is also assuming that the government isn't too involved in finance/business. As in America, they are only involved to a certain extent, which isn't seen in all countries -- as some have more or less government regulatory control.

This is a case by case issue, tough one to be honest.
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That is one of our greatest flaw as a human. We always look for someone to blame and disregard the mistakes we do. If there is someone to blame it will be ourselves. We want a better life a change in the way we live but us ourselves cannot change our own doings. If we want change in our world we must start at ourselves and dont blame it to others.
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We are all to be blamed for the poverty in the world. In almost every country people have the power to change things that happen around them.For instance where there is democracy, the people make up the government. They have the power to elect the right people to stir the  affairs of the society in order to solve societal issues such as poverty
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poverty has to be well treated through a collective endavour in the government and people. Also government should do the right thing to the people.
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Poverty is one of the global conflicts that every country faces wherein cooperation from both its citizens and the one governing is crucially demanded. But despite the efforts of most countries, poverty still knocks at the doorsteps of every family and conflicts between the government and the people are always being talked about. Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?

The goverment is simply the voice of the voters, so the voters is responsible for everything they do, such is democracy.
I would say that the system is to blame, a monetary system that rules everything and makes sure the rich gets richer. It corrupts our democracy and turns us into simple wage slaves, without any rights or any way to get change done unless we unite against the system. To bad the system it self is designed only to prevent such united forces to every arise, by media trashings, laws, police and military forces or even intelligence service.

Everyone who help to build the system is guilty, every voter and taxpayer, police. military, and anyone who goes by in silent obedience knowing that the world is out of order.
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The real culprit is the creation of debt by the banking elite, and the theft of capital from the people and national reserves.

The people are also to blame for allowing it to happen, and to succumb to the drug addiction promoted by the deep state, and the government unicorns.
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You can blame the Government, the people, we can blame anyone. But the one that we should blame is ourselves. We should start the things In ourselves such as be responsible to the things we should do, because it started to us to the government and to the country.
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There's should be balance for both, to the government and to the people.

You can't have a good governance if the people you are governing aren't cooperating with what you are doing. If the people were just cooperative and also have plans of making their lives better in the future, life will be easier. Don't blame it all to the government.
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The goverment always, although people are also at fault believing the stories told by their politicians.
And this, starting from the fact that in the end the politicians are not the ones who have real power, but that would be another debate.
IMHO and after what i said, i think the percentage would be 80% Goverment - 20% Society
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Government is there to make sure that the welfare of it's citizens are met, They should either provide jobs for it's citizens are make sure that there is a sound environment which makes it's citizens thrives. If the government hasn't provided that conditions then it has failed the people but if it has and the people are still living in poverty then it's the fault of the citizens.
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I am from the United States and I believe that our government is comprised of the people. If there is an issue with the government than the people need to fix it. If our leaders aren't working than they need to be replaced. If government policies aren't working for us than we need to demand they be changed.

So, who is to blame for the faults of the government? I say it is the people.
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While the greater blame should go to the government because they are the custodians of the tools for development the people also should take part of the blame for complacency and inaction
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Both should make an effort. While the government may be largely blamed for the high poverty level in the country, it is also needful to know that sometimes the people do not take advantage of some policies of the government been put in place to alleviate poverty. But still, the government should take a very large portion of the blame.
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I think both have influence but goverment is one that need to be blame,because they are the one that decide laws for everything and in most cases their decision is against people decision ,i saw that in my county when we got referendum for voting its mean if you vote for one politican your vote goes only to him,  because in many cases people vote for individual person in some party but after election when this party wins they kick that individual and your vote goes to this party anyway and this individual politican lost his space in parlament....,so many politicans was against that referendum in my country so they are against their own people and they get authority actually scaming on people....,many of them will say that its peoples fault they get scamed but in many cases hard working people who have little childrens have no or little time in day to make research on every politican and party and to be honest their is couple of politicans in my county that are in parlament that worth something others are rats and bottom of society
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Government in most cases are the custodians of the wealth of the nation and are therefore supposed to develop political and economic policies that would help to drive the economy thereby leady to economic empowerment but when the wrong policies are implemented or when they are no policies at all due to lack foresight the citizens remain further impoverish, therefore the blame should be on government
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I think the ones to be blamed are the ones who are not doing their part in the society. Blame the people who vote (or sell their votes to) corrupt politicians and people who are not working hard for a living and blame government for it. Blame the government, the public servants who are not serving the public.
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Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?

I think it should go both ways. There are some people who wouldn't let poverty stop them from getting themselves out of the dust, while some people succumb to poverty. Both the government and the people are at fault here, but sometimes you could only help someone who actually wants to be helped. That said, there were times when no matter how much you want to get out of poverty, there are corrupt officials who pockets the money alloted for poor families.
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Who to blame: the people or the government?

Blame the people not the government/system because they are just the one who make the rules and we are the one who follows it. As a youth/adult we already know what is right and wrong if there’s something wrong in our system, it is on our decision how to deal with it. The people in the government are humans too, sometimes they commit mistakes but that’s not the issue. We voted them in the first place so instead of blaming them, why not do a move to change our country? Change ourselves for us to change country. And for us to be a good leader we need to be a good follower.
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I think poverty is a byproduct of our fallen nature. People aren't perfect and the governments - which are just institutions created by people - reflect this. That being said, there are some inherent issues is a government trying to solve poverty - the scale is too great and their methods tend to be very inefficient. On a local level, things can be handled more properly, but very few people are willing to contribute the resources necessary to attack this problem. I'm sure that it can be reduced by a greater degree, but I think the poor will always be with us.
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i can say that the people are to be blamed because waiting for the government can be a waste of time but then we are unable to see the opportunities in front of us and make a good out of them.
the people are not well educated and enlightened as such when they get into the government, they are not able to do the right things they ought to do.
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both the government and the people are to be blamed because the people before they get into the government are well educated and enlightened on the things to be done when they get into the government.
but then i would say, if the government can be able to create more job opportunities, it would help the society greatly especially the Graduates.
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I think that the government is fully responsible for what is happening in the country and with the people. Now a very large influence on the minds of people has a quality propaganda. But it is directed not at the benefit of the state, but for the benefit of already rich people.
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Governments are usually a mirror of the people's essence. In countries with a strong culture of legality and respect of the community's rules, like Germany and the Scandinavian peoples, you have usually a quite honest political class and governments. This is so because in those countries people would NOT tolerate dishonest politicians. On the contrary, countries where people normally don't care about rules and honesty end up having corrupted governments. Wealth or poverty of the people in different countries is one of the possible consequences of this state of things.
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Assuming the issue is something where both the government and the people stands on the same side (like curing cancer, or ending poverty). Both parties have roles to play. The government has to provide an environment that allows/encourage the people into taking actions against a particular issue. Meanwhile, the people themselves have to take actions to tackle the issue as well.

I think there is a feedback loop here, for better or for worse: the government's stance will encourage or discourage the people. The people's pro-activeness will motivate the government to invest more or pull out of the issue. I think in the digital era, it is easy to get an idea of what the people feel for a particular issue, and so government bodies can quickly rise up to empower the people. At the same time, the digital revolution has given so much power to the common people when it comes to organization and giving people a collective voice.
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There’s something about taking on a government role that makes even the most sensible man fancy himself as a vicar. It’s easy to get confused: you find yourself lurking around Parliament, which looks a bit like a church, you can give speeches that drone on a bit like sermons, and in the Commons, prayers are held at the start of each sitting. You end up preaching a little bit, not about how you want to reform the system, but about how people should run their own lives.
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You cannot really blame both of them, or neither of them because both of them are in fault. You cannot blame the government if they have done all that they could, but the people cannot do your jobs but instead nag everything and blame it for the government. You cannot also blame the people if they have done their jobs but the government have only played the corrupt game and always won.
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I can't say that I can blame the government for not being able to address poverty.

We are all born equal, but our situations are not totally equal.

Some are lucky they are born in rich families, while some are not.

With little effort, those in rich families get to make money easily, while the poor need to strive hard.

The government can only help through providing support, but cannot be solely responsible to rid poverty or help each person.

It all depends on the individual's actions, whether to strive for success or give up due to enormous amounts of problems that he will face.
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Poverty becomes an inevitable problem of us. If we would see it clearly, the main roots of it is first and foremost the people itself. I believe that what we do leads us on where we are so the thing is people experience poverty maybe they are not doing. There are really people who always depends on government. But government sometimes cannot do its job leading to more poor people. The point is that poverty is caused by people and/or government. But let's start blaming ourselves as we are the first one who should help ourself get out in being poor.
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I think that poverty needs to be properly addressed through a collective effort of both the government and the people. The solution to this issue cannot be executed by one party alone. Hence, even though the govenment strongly implementing laws and programs to eradicate or lessen the poverty in our country, if people, still do not find ways to make their lives better, nothing will happen. Likewise, even though the people are doing everything that they can in order for them not to experience poverty anymore, if the government os corrupt and doesn't care about the welfare of the people, nothing also will happen. Thus, the government and the people must exert an efforr in order to solve this dilemma.
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to me, both parties involved needs to buckle up and embrace the reality of rarity and the true rigors of life and demands. Governments needs improve on policies and provisions of avenues and channels that enables their people the real and true value for being a worthy citizens and people needs to abate from some ways and compose of life living that aren't enhancing governmental policies and which in turn reduces their own standards in any approach to life; for instance, inability to control the family largeness through multiple births, uncontrolled s3x when you surely knows that house is full already...this is very common in African countries, wasteful and unresourceful spending; earning a little amount and living outta your salary or wages.
I believe if we can stay true to ourselves and governments putting in their best, unlike being selfish, wasteful and unresourceful; mostly in Africa and part of Southern American countries, then the issues of poverty will be a thing of the past or perhaps better put, well managed and reduced.
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Poverty is one of the global conflicts that every country faces wherein cooperation from both its citizens and the one governing is crucially demanded. But despite the efforts of most countries, poverty still knocks at the doorsteps of every family and conflicts between the government and the people are always being talked about. Is it the people who needs to change or the government needs to clean itself? Who should be the one to make an effort?
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