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He can't be considered a proper antagonist. But that's what it says on the wiki.
Topic: Who was the antagonist in the film "Titanic"? (Read 5838 times)
He can't be considered a proper antagonist. But that's what it says on the wiki.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
As mentioned by awesome31312, this is definitely the most intelligent and thought provoking answer! Poor people are most certainly treated as second class citizens. I honestly don't know how anyone can miss it. Recently, I was reminded of this when I took my dad to see the doctor regarding his pneumonia.
My dad received oxygen when he was in the hospital and he says it helped him immensely, but the hospital couldn't discharge my dad quick enough. In fact, my dad came back later the same day, due to feeling short of breath, and again they discharged him asap the following day. *sigh* The next day I took my dad to see a doctor (which was filling in for his family doctor) and asked him for oxygen, but he denied me three times saying my dad can't have it and even told me I was being difficult. I just couldn't understand why not, knowing full well there are in fact old people who do have oxygen at home. Finally he admitted it was because my dad didn't qualify to have it covered by medicare and if we wanted it we'd have to pay for it. "FFS! Of course we'll pay for it!", I told him.
Lesson learned - If you have to go see a doctor (at his office) you will be lied to because you obviously cannot afford good treatment and so must die. If you can afford a doctor to come to your home then you can obviously afford good treatment and so have the right to live.
Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I just had to get this off my chest.
It's not off-topic at all. I'm sorry you had to deal with such outrageous oppression due to class warfare, oYo. It really does seem like we are one nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all that can afford it. We don't like facing it, but it's true, there is in fact a condition where one cannot afford rights. The right to life is mentioned in our Bill of Rights, but unfortunately, it seems that you need to be able to pay for your right to live. Titanic was a good example of that, airline tickets are another. Health care in America tops it all.
Thank you awesome31312. Indeed, I'm sure things are the same there in the USA as they are here in Canada.
Don't you guys get free healthcare in Canada?
Yes, but it doesn't cover everything. My dad's oxygen level wasn't low enough for him to qualify for free coverage. What pisses me off is that doctors hide options which are not covered by healthcare if they figure you can't afford it.
I believe that this discussion brings up an important question. Is it really moral to capitalize on a man's basic need, his bare necessity, his right to LIFE?
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
As mentioned by awesome31312, this is definitely the most intelligent and thought provoking answer! Poor people are most certainly treated as second class citizens. I honestly don't know how anyone can miss it. Recently, I was reminded of this when I took my dad to see the doctor regarding his pneumonia.
My dad received oxygen when he was in the hospital and he says it helped him immensely, but the hospital couldn't discharge my dad quick enough. In fact, my dad came back later the same day, due to feeling short of breath, and again they discharged him asap the following day. *sigh* The next day I took my dad to see a doctor (which was filling in for his family doctor) and asked him for oxygen, but he denied me three times saying my dad can't have it and even told me I was being difficult. I just couldn't understand why not, knowing full well there are in fact old people who do have oxygen at home. Finally he admitted it was because my dad didn't qualify to have it covered by medicare and if we wanted it we'd have to pay for it. "FFS! Of course we'll pay for it!", I told him.
Lesson learned - If you have to go see a doctor (at his office) you will be lied to because you obviously cannot afford good treatment and so must die. If you can afford a doctor to come to your home then you can obviously afford good treatment and so have the right to live.
Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I just had to get this off my chest.
It's not off-topic at all. I'm sorry you had to deal with such outrageous oppression due to class warfare, oYo. It really does seem like we are one nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all that can afford it. We don't like facing it, but it's true, there is in fact a condition where one cannot afford rights. The right to life is mentioned in our Bill of Rights, but unfortunately, it seems that you need to be able to pay for your right to live. Titanic was a good example of that, airline tickets are another. Health care in America tops it all.
Thank you awesome31312. Indeed, I'm sure things are the same there in the USA as they are here in Canada.
Don't you guys get free healthcare in Canada?
Yes, but it doesn't cover everything. My dad's oxygen level wasn't low enough for him to qualify for free coverage. What pisses me off is that doctors hide options which are not covered by healthcare if they figure you can't afford it.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
Actually I feel that way too. There were no specified bad guy or something like that. It was more situation there were put in was unfavorable. And class system was quintessence of that.
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What?
What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic?
That iceberg wouldn't have been floating around if it wasn't for "global warming" - the entire planet would have been a glacier.
Wow, that's really critical thinking
In that case, we can add the Sun, CO2, Oxygen, plants (no humans to build Titanic), ...
The antagonists were clearly the twelve middle-eastern hijackers who flew the Hindenburg's sister ship into the side of the Titanic.
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What?
What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic?
That iceberg wouldn't have been floating around if it wasn't for "global warming" - the entire planet would have been a glacier.
Wow, that's really critical thinking
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What?
What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic?
That iceberg wouldn't have been floating around if it wasn't for "global warming" - the entire planet would have been a glacier.
Wow, that's really critical thinking
The shitty actors.
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What?
What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic?
That iceberg wouldn't have been floating around if it wasn't for "global warming" - the entire planet would have been a glacier.
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What?
What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic?
It might be.. the meltdown!
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What?
What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic?
The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
As mentioned by awesome31312, this is definitely the most intelligent and thought provoking answer! Poor people are most certainly treated as second class citizens. I honestly don't know how anyone can miss it. Recently, I was reminded of this when I took my dad to see the doctor regarding his pneumonia.
My dad received oxygen when he was in the hospital and he says it helped him immensely, but the hospital couldn't discharge my dad quick enough. In fact, my dad came back later the same day, due to feeling short of breath, and again they discharged him asap the following day. *sigh* The next day I took my dad to see a doctor (which was filling in for his family doctor) and asked him for oxygen, but he denied me three times saying my dad can't have it and even told me I was being difficult. I just couldn't understand why not, knowing full well there are in fact old people who do have oxygen at home. Finally he admitted it was because my dad didn't qualify to have it covered by medicare and if we wanted it we'd have to pay for it. "FFS! Of course we'll pay for it!", I told him.
Lesson learned - If you have to go see a doctor (at his office) you will be lied to because you obviously cannot afford good treatment and so must die. If you can afford a doctor to come to your home then you can obviously afford good treatment and so have the right to live.
Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I just had to get this off my chest.
It's not off-topic at all. I'm sorry you had to deal with such outrageous oppression due to class warfare, oYo. It really does seem like we are one nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all that can afford it. We don't like facing it, but it's true, there is in fact a condition where one cannot afford rights. The right to life is mentioned in our Bill of Rights, but unfortunately, it seems that you need to be able to pay for your right to live. Titanic was a good example of that, airline tickets are another. Health care in America tops it all.
Thank you awesome31312. Indeed, I'm sure things are the same there in the USA as they are here in Canada.
Don't you guys get free healthcare in Canada?
The insurance company by all accounts since they got scammed
I vote the Iceberg.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
As mentioned by awesome31312, this is definitely the most intelligent and thought provoking answer! Poor people are most certainly treated as second class citizens. I honestly don't know how anyone can miss it. Recently, I was reminded of this when I took my dad to see the doctor regarding his pneumonia.
My dad received oxygen when he was in the hospital and he says it helped him immensely, but the hospital couldn't discharge my dad quick enough. In fact, my dad came back later the same day, due to feeling short of breath, and again they discharged him asap the following day. *sigh* The next day I took my dad to see a doctor (which was filling in for his family doctor) and asked him for oxygen, but he denied me three times saying my dad can't have it and even told me I was being difficult. I just couldn't understand why not, knowing full well there are in fact old people who do have oxygen at home. Finally he admitted it was because my dad didn't qualify to have it covered by medicare and if we wanted it we'd have to pay for it. "FFS! Of course we'll pay for it!", I told him.
Lesson learned - If you have to go see a doctor (at his office) you will be lied to because you obviously cannot afford good treatment and so must die. If you can afford a doctor to come to your home then you can obviously afford good treatment and so have the right to live.
Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I just had to get this off my chest.
It's not off-topic at all. I'm sorry you had to deal with such outrageous oppression due to class warfare, oYo. It really does seem like we are one nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all that can afford it. We don't like facing it, but it's true, there is in fact a condition where one cannot afford rights. The right to life is mentioned in our Bill of Rights, but unfortunately, it seems that you need to be able to pay for your right to live. Titanic was a good example of that, airline tickets are another. Health care in America tops it all.
Thank you awesome31312. Indeed, I'm sure things are the same there in the USA as they are here in Canada.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
As mentioned by awesome31312, this is definitely the most intelligent and thought provoking answer! Poor people are most certainly treated as second class citizens. I honestly don't know how anyone can miss it. Recently, I was reminded of this when I took my dad to see the doctor regarding his pneumonia.
My dad received oxygen when he was in the hospital and he says it helped him immensely, but the hospital couldn't discharge my dad quick enough. In fact, my dad came back later the same day, due to feeling short of breath, and again they discharged him asap the following day. *sigh* The next day I took my dad to see a doctor (which was filling in for his family doctor) and asked him for oxygen, but he denied me three times saying my dad can't have it and even told me I was being difficult. I just couldn't understand why not, knowing full well there are in fact old people who do have oxygen at home. Finally he admitted it was because my dad didn't qualify to have it covered by medicare and if we wanted it we'd have to pay for it. "FFS! Of course we'll pay for it!", I told him.
Lesson learned - If you have to go see a doctor (at his office) you will be lied to because you obviously cannot afford good treatment and so must die. If you can afford a doctor to come to your home then you can obviously afford good treatment and so have the right to live.
Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I just had to get this off my chest.
It's not off-topic at all. I'm sorry you had to deal with such outrageous oppression due to class warfare, oYo. It really does seem like we are one nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all that can afford it. We don't like facing it, but it's true, there is in fact a condition where one cannot afford rights. The right to life is mentioned in our Bill of Rights, but unfortunately, it seems that you need to be able to pay for your right to live. Titanic was a good example of that, airline tickets are another. Health care in America tops it all.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
As mentioned by awesome31312, this is definitely the most intelligent and thought provoking answer! Poor people are most certainly treated as second class citizens. I honestly don't know how anyone can miss it. Recently, I was reminded of this when I took my dad to see the doctor regarding his pneumonia.
My dad received oxygen when he was in the hospital and he says it helped him immensely, but the hospital couldn't discharge my dad quick enough. In fact, my dad came back later the same day, due to feeling short of breath, and again they discharged him asap the following day. *sigh* The next day I took my dad to see a doctor (which was filling in for his family doctor) and asked him for oxygen, but he denied me three times saying my dad can't have it and even told me I was being difficult. I just couldn't understand why not, knowing full well there are in fact old people who do have oxygen at home. Finally he admitted it was because my dad didn't qualify to have it covered by medicare and if we wanted it we'd have to pay for it. "FFS! Of course we'll pay for it!", I told him.
Lesson learned - If you have to go see a doctor (at his office) you will be lied to because you obviously cannot afford good treatment and so must die. If you can afford a doctor to come to your home then you can obviously afford good treatment and so have the right to live.
Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I just had to get this off my chest.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
I've realized that airlines often have a more convenient location for obtaining the life vest in case of an emergency for business/first class flyers, which is really implying that they have a greater right to life than those who could not afford it. It really is tragic.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
YEs, I agree 100 %
Also, to see how reach people was saved first and third class people had to wait until the end, this was really tragic.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
This is by far the most intelligent and unique response I've seen to this question.
Definitely the class system, not only between Rose and Jack but also between the different classes of passengers.
Was it the iceberg?
Other than Man vs Man conflict from which the idea of an antagonist comes, there is also Man vs Nature and Man vs Self.
Don't forget that Man vs Man can come in other forms such as society too.
Antagonist is not precise enough, but the factors of conflict would be :
Man vs Nature : Yes, the iceberg
Man vs Man: Cal messes up everything and comes in between Jack and Rose
Man vs Society: Even without Cal, Rose and Jack couldn't work out because of societal pressure.
Was it the iceberg?
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