why Africa are not really make it in bitcoin?.

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Quote from: guoyu78 on October 19, 2016, 03:27:09 PM

There are some african countries who do not have even food for their life so how will they afford electricity, internet and a device. We have to help them to provide these services.

What does that even mean? How are you going to help all of Africa eat and get internet rofl?

Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on October 22, 2016, 05:40:28 AM

Maybe you should join bitcoin Africa forum. If you not lazy, you can googling it. Also there are have a Blockchain Africa Conference 2017 upcoming next year.

There you go. You should find people online that share your interest because as you said obviously 90% of locals haven't even heard of bitcoins let alone want to use them.

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Maybe you should join bitcoin Africa forum. If you not lazy, you can googling it. Also there are have a Blockchain Africa Conference 2017 upcoming next year.

I ever see African build a bitcoin project, they exist in this forum too, maybe not much but if you looking for, they exist with some bitcoin project.

Anyway you have good spirit to spread bitcoin around you, good luck, maybe inviting them to the forum is good idea.

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Quote from: guoyu78 on October 19, 2016, 03:27:09 PM

There are some african countries who do not have even food for their life so how will they afford electricity, internet and a device. We have to help them to provide these services.

we can only succeed in live if we believe in ourselves. Though African may not have food, electricity, internet and devices as you said, but if we in African believes in ourselves the sky will be our limit. We have goods brain and good people but our problem is waiting for the developed countries to help us with those things we can easily provided for ourselves. Don't give us fish teach us how to cut fish.

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There are some african countries who do not have even food for their life so how will they afford electricity, internet and a device. We have to help them to provide these services.

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The thing that this person is not familiar with Bitcoin is not depending on fact that he's African. You can easily find people in Europe who have never heard of Bitcoin. Maybe we have prejudices about Africa and it's techical and Internet development and infrastructure but things are not that bad as it seems and more and more Africans are getting into Bitcoin world.
If my memory serves me well I've read somwhere that average number of smartphones per inhabitant in Africa is two.

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There are different cases for African countries regarding Bitcoin, for example: I watched a short documentary film about Uganda, Bitcoin is significantly used there because it offers low transaction fees for the people who work outside Uganda, before using Bitcoin, they were paying about 10-20% for Western Union as fees, I mentioned Uganda because this country has a lot of migrants.
In South Africa, Bitcoin is well know and there are exchanges from which you can buy Bitcoin.

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If you want Bitcoin to succeed in Africa, you would have to bring out a user-friendly App that would run on cheaper mobile phones. Some of these countries are using Mpesa with huge success on any cellphone and they would quickly transition to Bitcoin, if Bitcoin could be made more user friendly.

Everyone seem to develop Apps for smart phones and most of these people cannot afford the phone or the bandwidth that these phones use. They are currently using old technology and they buy small data packages on non-contractual methods.

Bitcoin would do much better there, once companies and developers realize this and start to concentrate on developing tools to adapt to these kind of environments. ^smile^

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Quote from: Slow death on October 17, 2016, 01:01:18 PM

Quote from: Hazir on October 17, 2016, 02:25:03 AM

Some African countries are extremely poor (Malawi, Burundi, Niger, Liberia) some are war torn (Somalia)
and will not reach level development needed to even remotely introduce bitcoin to the society.

you are right in that part, but it has something that you're wrong. I am African, I am from mozambique, for those who do not know, mozambique borders with Malawi, South Africa and most other countries. In my country almost every one has a laptop and home computer with access to good quality internet. in all universities have access to free internet. everybody has smartphone. If Africans do not use bitcoin? It is not poverty fault. It is the fault of political dictators.

African have great scholars, one of the problems that leave me very sad, is the fact that many television channels and newspapers, go africa poverty news, filming a district and think that's all that Africa has. Africa has beautiful cities, has many North American singers who already came to sing in my country mozambique, 50 cent, ciara, Ja rule, leonardo Di carpio made a movie in my country. Mister Bean made movie in my country.

Do not be deceived with documentaries that go on television about Africa. Africa has a lot of potential and may well use bitcoin smoothly. But this will depend on the corrupt and dictators politicians.

Yes, you are right, some governments censor Bitcoins and any other crypto-currency, but isn't there any problem if you use BTCs in Mozambique? Don't the government persecutes you because it?

BTC would be nice for many african countries start using and helping us on this community.

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Quote from: Hazir on October 17, 2016, 02:25:03 AM

Some African countries are extremely poor (Malawi, Burundi, Niger, Liberia) some are war torn (Somalia)
and will not reach level development needed to even remotely introduce bitcoin to the society.

you are right in that part, but it has something that you're wrong. I am African, I am from mozambique, for those who do not know, mozambique borders with Malawi, South Africa and most other countries. In my country almost every one has a laptop and home computer with access to good quality internet. in all universities have access to free internet. everybody has smartphone. If Africans do not use bitcoin? It is not poverty fault. It is the fault of political dictators.

African have great scholars, one of the problems that leave me very sad, is the fact that many television channels and newspapers, go africa poverty news, filming a district and think that's all that Africa has. Africa has beautiful cities, has many North American singers who already came to sing in my country mozambique, 50 cent, ciara, Ja rule, leonardo Di carpio made a movie in my country. Mister Bean made movie in my country.

Do not be deceived with documentaries that go on television about Africa. Africa has a lot of potential and may well use bitcoin smoothly. But this will depend on the corrupt and dictators politicians.

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Quote from: Hazir on October 17, 2016, 02:25:03 AM

Stop treating Africa like one country, it is enormous continent. Highly divided both ethnically, socially and economically.

Some African countries are extremely poor (Malawi, Burundi, Niger, Liberia) some are war torn (Somalia)
and will not reach level development needed to even remotely introduce bitcoin to the society.

But there are some countries where Bitcoin adoption is possible - Gabon, Guinea, Seychelles, Botswana to name a few.

True,, Same here in the philippines we are also divided in the main cities in our place bitcoin is quite known and promoted by some of the business. But in some places which is a war prawn area bitcoin is not that a thing to be considered.

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Stop treating Africa like one country, it is enormous continent. Highly divided both ethnically, socially and economically.

Some African countries are extremely poor (Malawi, Burundi, Niger, Liberia) some are war torn (Somalia)
and will not reach level development needed to even remotely introduce bitcoin to the society.

But there are some countries where Bitcoin adoption is possible - Gabon, Guinea, Seychelles, Botswana to name a few.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

I think it is due to illiteracy and lack of better infrastructure that causes Africa to lag behind in bitcoin but I am sure things will change sooner and African will also adopt to bitcoin in numbers

The reality really hurts, I think this is not just applicable with Africa but as well as the other poor countries.

They are lacking of the support of their local government and on their materials if their government will have the initiative to help them then for sure they are going to be able to develop Africa just like middle east countries.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

I think it is due to illiteracy and lack of better infrastructure that causes Africa to lag behind in bitcoin but I am sure things will change sooner and African will also adopt to bitcoin in numbers

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A lot of people in Africa or people in other parts of the world have been using bitcoin to send money to friends and family in Africa. I have a friend who actually uses bitcoin every month to send money to his brother, and his brother simply sells all the coins to a trader there. But they do have lower rates, which are anyday better than other services.

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If a person or a group of people are unable to understand bitcoin then it is because of their education level and their involvement in the online world and digital technology and I know these people are far back in that field.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 16, 2016, 10:13:54 AM

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

No. I know few forum members who are from African countries. So, not sure about your circumstances also due to high anonimity maintained by every member here in this forum hard to know who are all from which continent. Maybe you are right in percentage of users from Africa.

my observations was based on local knowledge of bitcoin in my area. I find out that 90% of people from were I come from don't have knowledge on bitcoin, in fact their don't even believe that minig bitcoin is possible. Some of the people think bitcoin is another thing like PayPal or liberty deserve.

Thats the same in the city I live in (in Canada) but I don't just lump the entire continent in with me rofl. That doesn't make any sense. Again, what country are you in?

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Quote from: beerlover on October 16, 2016, 09:48:44 AM

Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

No. I know few forum members who are from African countries. So, not sure about your circumstances also due to high anonimity maintained by every member here in this forum hard to know who are all from which continent. Maybe you are right in percentage of users from Africa.

my observations was based on local knowledge of bitcoin in my area. I find out that 90% of people from were I come from don't have knowledge on bitcoin, in fact their don't even believe that minig bitcoin is possible. Some of the people think bitcoin is another thing like PayPal or liberty deserve.

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Quote from: beerlover on October 16, 2016, 09:48:44 AM

Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

No. I know few forum members who are from African countries. So, not sure about your circumstances also due to high anonimity maintained by every member here in this forum hard to know who are all from which continent. Maybe you are right in percentage of users from Africa.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

No. I know few forum members who are from African countries. So, not sure about your circumstances also due to high anonimity maintained by every member here in this forum hard to know who are all from which continent. Maybe you are right in percentage of users from Africa.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

I understand about it, too difficult for the people in Africa for understanding about bitcoin and according to from a lot of the education rating of African are always in the under level comparing with the asian.. and that is very low and you will need more effort for that.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

The country that i knew used bitcoin is south africa and egypt. Also i knew some users here from africa.
Though in Africa around 9.4 % of the world population has an internet connection today. I think people out there are not interested to bitcoin or maybe less exposure of the bitcoinin that area.

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

but it seen their don't understand what am saying.

Neither do I. Maybe it's just lost in translation. Maybe just showing them the benefits will help you educate them with cryptocurrency. It's kind of strange that you're lumping everyone in Africa together though. What country do you live in?

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Quote from: PizzaBTC on October 16, 2016, 05:16:35 AM

Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

I don't agree with you to say that Africans do not know much about bitcoin. If you want to know African country that has far gone into the business of using Bitcoin then check on Nigeria, you can get so many discussion on their biggest forum on nairaland.com in the investment section. Hence, to me some African countries have gone far in that regard.

maybe they are been out numbered by some nationalities who using bitcoin but surely they exist. and im pretty sure that they are making theirselves anonymous so they wont be bothered by some politics in this furom nor on outside world, but seriously bitcoin is known in the world so theirs no surprise if we can see some africans or any far to imagine people whos using it(not mentioning those aliens).

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

I don't agree with you to say that Africans do not know much about bitcoin. If you want to know African country that has far gone into the business of using Bitcoin then check on Nigeria, you can get so many discussion on their biggest forum on nairaland.com in the investment section. Hence, to me some African countries have gone far in that regard.

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Quote from: mrcash02 on October 15, 2016, 04:15:15 PM

Maybe a great part of people there don't have computers, laptops, cell phones or acessible internet to connect themselves to the Crypto-Currency world.

But slowly I'm sure they will start using BTCs over the internet. It's a good way for them to make easy and fast profit also, it will help them a lot!

now a days who really does not own a cell phone,may be the really poor might be using the old phones but i could see many people from africa in all other chat platforms,so its not about internet or cell phones,they are not interested or convinced in bitcoin and its functionlity

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The only thing I can see happening at the moment is scammy projects like BitLand (look it up, I don't want to get pissed about it again lol) making big promises through crypto due to lack of...'regulation' (not sure the best word). For example, they promise 'land registry' in Ghana, where land is often controlled by various chiefs/tribes varying region-to-region...and oftentimes land ownership is finalized with a bullet rather than pen & paper. See where problems might arise...? Roll Eyes

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I can't really say that most of the Africans or the Africa it self are really not into bitcoin or Crypto industry. Maybe they just have their own platform or i think that you've said that one because you can't find or know someone that is an African in this forum.

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Africa is suffering from poverty for a very long time. Maybe that's why they didn't know about bitcoin and not interested on it because they are more curious on the things that will easily get them up from poverty. Maybe they are also lack in technologies, like they don't have smartphones or laptop at home and so on. I know bitcoin would easily help them to have a source of income in which they can use in their everyday lives but the thing is they are not interested on it because they might also think that bitcoin is hard to earn that requires complex solution something like that. I guess it would be great if someone who has influence on people will explain this thing to them in order them to understand more and can be easily persuade.

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I am sure majority of the reason has to be an absence of a good internet infrastructure and technology. In a recent documentary, African exchanges charge upto 50% of the amount transferred as fees for a single transfer, so bitcoin definitely makes sense. But the only reason it didn't get so popular is lack of access to internet, and inavailability of an exchange to sell those bitcoins.

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I have to say, I don't find it surprising that OP hasn't found much interest, but that has little to do with him being from Africa (it'd be nice to know what country, BTW). I'm in the US and I've tried to get other people interested to no effect. You either like bitcoin or you don't, and the community at large is pretty damn small. But props to OP for trying to spread the word.

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I think many people in africa are using bitcoins this is just like the same as mine that i also introduce it in my place but no one also know about it.. but some people are interested here in my place because they are looking for extra income.
Maybe sooner or later you can find some bitcoin users here from your place..

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

You cannot reallynsay that they are not on bitcoin hence we are all anonymous here, maybe some africans are hiding there identity since we don't need to shout out that we are africans and we are bitcoin users, and not only in this furom you can actually see all the bitcoin users just go outside and search them on fb,twitter or any other social media sites you can really see that they exist on using it.

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Maybe a great part of people there don't have computers, laptops, cell phones or acessible internet to connect themselves to the Crypto-Currency world.

But slowly I'm sure they will start using BTCs over the internet. It's a good way for them to make easy and fast profit also, it will help them a lot!

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Quote from: yakdivine on October 15, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

I don't know why Africans are not using bitcoin and related things.
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we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

so why you think this?
ps Where you come from? because I think South Africa is a nation that use a lot btc and has also some start up's , but I think in the center of Africa there isn't the same situation.

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From my observation from bitcointalk, African are not really make it in bitcoin or other altcoin. I try to introduce bitcoin to my colleague but it seen their don't understand what am saying. Is it that we don't study or we underrate the potentials of bitcoin?

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