Why Anonymity so important to you? - page 12.

Kayex

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Quote from: Ozziecoin on July 20, 2014, 09:25:48 PM

Imagine your best friend; someone you trust with your life asks you to show him/her all your emails, text messages, phone conversations and what you buy or sell. This person will then permanently record everything. Would you allow it?

Now imagine a faceless entity having access to all that information.

I never actually thought of it that way.
Now that you say that, BTC can still be traced by your IP can't it?

Kayex

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Quote from: cutepuppy on July 20, 2014, 09:54:07 PM

I am concerned that an attacker would find out how much bitcoin I have in my possession, subjecting me to a number of hacking attempted/attacks.

This is why you need to back up your wallets and protect them.

franky1

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Quote from: Cicero2.0 on July 20, 2014, 10:33:14 PM

but my financial details are my business. I choose to take measures to defend my privacy.

really?

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1LaYkyGBmXAeBP2JdVXjEqiZRr6kHkbBTy

bitcoin is anonymous... right up until the second that someone tells the world their financial life story

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BTC Address : 1PBnmqit4948gNyzAqfAdiTLFE8Z494t8

OROBTC

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@ AliceW and Cicero above (and everyone)

We live in a time where our .gov and many others are sticking their nose into our business & wallets and taking away our rights! Anonymity is a right, almost a duty.

So is our Second Amendment. Yes, please do buy a gun, and learn to use it right. The more who are armed, the harder it will for them to take our rights away.

And with learning a few techniques, you can vastly increase your privacy using BTC. Mixing services. A used laptop that you bought for cash there at the pawnshop. Sending your BTC around to your wallets (at less than 10 cents, why not), and creating more...!

You almost have to think like a spy nowadays just to have some tranquility!

illodin

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Quote from: Cicero2.0 on July 20, 2014, 10:33:14 PM

I have nothing to hide frankly

Quote from: illodin on July 15, 2014, 03:55:12 AM

Quote from: camosoul on July 14, 2014, 06:19:55 PM

Proof has not a damn thing to do with it. Privacy becomes important once you've had to deal with that shit. Too many people insist on learning the hard way with the "I have nothing to hide" idiocy. You let The State into your affairs, they'll "find" whatever they want to find.

"I have nothing to hide"

Big data and data mining means that the privacy you thought you had is/will be gone.

Let's say you bought a digital watch with alarm and a flashlight recently, and an already terrorist suspect bought some fertilizer. Then your phones' location data shows that you happened to be at the same pizzeria at the same time for 30 minutes (or you both paid your pizza using Bitcoin).
=> big data says you're suspected terrorist and puts you on a high risk list
=> you won't be getting an insurance or credit card or loan from a bank, you wouldn't get a job or might lose your job if it is a job that requires clean background etc

And even if you're not living in such a country yet, you'd be prevented from getting into one when traveling, or worse, arrested at the airport.

And all this thinking "you had nothing to hide".

Cicero2.0

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Quote from: AliceWonder on July 20, 2014, 11:15:56 PM

Quote from: Cicero2.0 on July 20, 2014, 10:33:14 PM

I have nothing to hide frankly

Only reason you have nothing to hide is because you have a poor imagination.

My AliceWonder username - I sometimes post pictures of snakes with my real name on it.
I don't care, it's just an internet handle.

Today someone on reddit I've never met before didn't like something I said (imagine that! LOL) and said they did a background search on me, revealing my real name.

I don't give a sh*t but it is freaky that some background database has compiled that about me.

Maybe they got it from snake pics or more likely a domain registration - but even though I don't really care to keep who I am secret, it's still freaky that a publicly accessible database somewhere has it.

Oh, and I am thinking about exercising my second amendment rights and buying a gun. This guy seemed to think I am a transvestite (nope) and seemed to hate them, and well, that group has a lot of senseless violence committed against it by freaky people. So...

I should have clarified that a bit. I have nothing to hide legally. I prefer to keep my online identity online and far away from my personal life.

Everyone should exercise their 2nd amendment right. Personal security isn't something we should take lightly. If you do get one it is very much worth your time to take classes and spend some time at a range learning to use it effectively.

bassguitarman

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Quote from: Ozziecoin on July 20, 2014, 09:25:48 PM

Imagine your best friend; someone you trust with your life asks you to show him/her all your emails, text messages, phone conversations and what you buy or sell. This person will then permanently record everything. Would you allow it?

Now imagine a faceless entity having access to all that information.

woah, thats an interesting perspective.

libivan

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Quote from: AliceWonder on July 20, 2014, 11:15:56 PM

Quote from: Cicero2.0 on July 20, 2014, 10:33:14 PM

I have nothing to hide frankly

Only reason you have nothing to hide is because you have a poor imagination.

My AliceWonder username - I sometimes post pictures of snakes with my real name on it.
I don't care, it's just an internet handle.

Today someone on reddit I've never met before didn't like something I said (imagine that! LOL) and said they did a background search on me, revealing my real name.

I don't give a sh*t but it is freaky that some background database has compiled that about me.

Maybe they got it from snake pics or more likely a domain registration - but even though I don't really care to keep who I am secret, it's still freaky that a publicly accessible database somewhere has it.

Oh, and I am thinking about exercising my second amendment rights and buying a gun. This guy seemed to think I am a transvestite (nope) and seemed to hate them, and well, that group has a lot of senseless violence committed against it by freaky people. So...

Yes, we all are too much vulnerable with all this online indiscriminate (mandatory) exposure which allows anyone to acquire our private info, gaining the ability to misuse it and cause us harms.

AliceWonder

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Quote from: Cicero2.0 on July 20, 2014, 10:33:14 PM

I have nothing to hide frankly

Only reason you have nothing to hide is because you have a poor imagination.

My AliceWonder username - I sometimes post pictures of snakes with my real name on it.
I don't care, it's just an internet handle.

Today someone on reddit I've never met before didn't like something I said (imagine that! LOL) and said they did a background search on me, revealing my real name.

I don't give a sh*t but it is freaky that some background database has compiled that about me.

Maybe they got it from snake pics or more likely a domain registration - but even though I don't really care to keep who I am secret, it's still freaky that a publicly accessible database somewhere has it.

Oh, and I am thinking about exercising my second amendment rights and buying a gun. This guy seemed to think I am a transvestite (nope) and seemed to hate them, and well, that group has a lot of senseless violence committed against it by freaky people. So...

Cicero2.0

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I have nothing to hide frankly, but my financial details are my business. I choose to take measures to defend my privacy. If someone really wanted to find out if I am a bitcoin holder they could but I certainly don't advertise it. The problem I have with the NSA and all of that is that we were never given a choice and there was never a requirement to prove probable cause before they stole our personal information.

thunderdrum

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on July 20, 2014, 09:47:14 PM

1. You buy some medication online, or post about some medical condition on Facebook.
2. Datamining
...
3. Profit! (At your expense, as your healthcare quadruples in price.)

You might think you have 'nothing to hide' but do you really want to be fleeced even more than you already are by insurance companies?

+7

It's not a matter of what you want to hide. It's a matter of what other people what to know from you.

To most people, we don't want to hide anything. Or there is no need to hide anything. But anonymous is not just for hiding, the more important, it protects you from other people who what to seek through your whole information and then make some action.

When you use the non-anonymouse coin, people can know your whole financial information. Then, they can study you and find out your weak point.
Boom~ you're doomed.

libivan

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Quote from: cutepuppy on July 20, 2014, 09:54:07 PM

I am concerned that an attacker would find out how much bitcoin I have in my possession, subjecting me to a number of hacking attempted/attacks.

Depending on the country you live (for example, Brazil), if the wrong person knows your balance (in this case, BTC balance) you can be sure you or one of your loved ones will be kidnapped.

LostDutchman

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Quote from: cutepuppy on July 20, 2014, 09:54:07 PM

I am concerned that an attacker would find out how much bitcoin I have in my possession, subjecting me to a number of hacking attempted/attacks.

Suffer, bitch.

madken7777

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If the government is determine to prosecute someone, they can find any excuse to make it happen.

Having anonymity make it harder for them.

cutepuppy

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I am concerned that an attacker would find out how much bitcoin I have in my possession, subjecting me to a number of hacking attempted/attacks.

LostDutchman

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Quote from: Kayex on July 20, 2014, 08:24:04 PM

So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it.
So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.

But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities?
Do you just not want to be known?

I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me.
Is Anonymity not that important to you?

libivan

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Anonymity is a human necessity. If it was not, we wouldn't need curtains in our windows. But in today's world people seem to have forgotten the importance of privacy, and they are madly exposing all their lives, all the personal and private details online, just because it is "cool": "just because my neighbour has a popular face book profile, mine must be more popular"... "I'll post my hot selfies and everyone is gonna like it", etc...

If it was just that, it would be nonsense enough... but fine, each one knows his/her own limits anyway... but it is not only that: the companies/governments will misuse all this free info. We are beeing tagged, followed, watched, controlled. It's becoming a scary Orwellian world, and I refuse to colaborate with it.

thelonecrouton

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1. You buy some medication online, or post about some medical condition on Facebook.
2. Datamining
...
3. Profit! (At your expense, as your healthcare quadruples in price.)

You might think you have 'nothing to hide' but do you really want to be fleeced even more than you already are by insurance companies?

AliceWonder

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Quote from: Kayex on July 20, 2014, 08:24:04 PM

So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it.
So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.

But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities?
Do you just not want to be known?

I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me.
Is Anonymity not that important to you?

If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are.

In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy.

Sydboy

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i dont mind any one tracing me.
i think alot of people want to be anonymous for no reason other than they want to be anonymous.

i remember a thread recently some one was giving tips to be anonymous and he had his bitcoin address in his signature and some one traded it to multiple exchanges. it was pretty funny. everybody is an expert here

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