Topic: Why Anonymity so important to you? - page 2. (Read 9438 times)
Anonymity feature has advantages and disadvantages. We can freely use our bitcoin without any one can easily trace it but, anonymity also makes it difficult when there are people who steal our bitcoin.
I just want to buy a gift for my girlfriend without being tracked 
I just don't want to be tracked simple as that. Last I remember that is called stalking which is illegal. It's like Bitcoin but in it's own creepy way. The practice of infringing on peoples privacy has become perversely accepted to the point that the victim being tracked feels they owe an explanation or proof they aren't guilty of something without even have committed any crime.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2305863
That's really exciting thing to see because governments have had classic
trouble fighting tax haven jurisdictions, but recently have been gaining
more success by instead of fighting the jurisdictions, instead giving
more power to banks yet turning them into agents of the state. So the
banks serve the tax authorities and are given more power because
governments centralise the financial infrastructure.
We have a situation currently where people are taxed both from normal
taxes and inflation. Paper money contributes massively to state power,
not only by profits from inflation, but by giving leverage over who can
accumulate wealth.
Hence "captialism for the rich, socialism for the poor". Corporations
either stay competitive and evade tax through offshores, or go bust, all
while servicing state law, regulations and institutional power structures.
Now with Bitcoin though everyone can have a super tax-haven with no
requirements to report income and no liabilities. We already have
decentralised money laundering. The technology is improving fast and
this will only get much better too. Especially once we have the tools
for issuing securities to anonymous investors.
That's really exciting thing to see because governments have had classic
trouble fighting tax haven jurisdictions, but recently have been gaining
more success by instead of fighting the jurisdictions, instead giving
more power to banks yet turning them into agents of the state. So the
banks serve the tax authorities and are given more power because
governments centralise the financial infrastructure.
We have a situation currently where people are taxed both from normal
taxes and inflation. Paper money contributes massively to state power,
not only by profits from inflation, but by giving leverage over who can
accumulate wealth.
Hence "captialism for the rich, socialism for the poor". Corporations
either stay competitive and evade tax through offshores, or go bust, all
while servicing state law, regulations and institutional power structures.
Now with Bitcoin though everyone can have a super tax-haven with no
requirements to report income and no liabilities. We already have
decentralised money laundering. The technology is improving fast and
this will only get much better too. Especially once we have the tools
for issuing securities to anonymous investors.
I just want to buy a gift for my girlfriend without being tracked
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
Governments will love it then.
Here you go: http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-summer-2007/cheney-and-secrecy
While I don't mean to defend Cheney (such being indefensible), I find it curious that you did not link to something about the administration that has set the record in regards to secrecy:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-secrecy-up-under-obama-administration/
Also, second ranked: http://freebeacon.com/issues/press-groups-call-on-obama-admin-to-end-pervasive-secrecy-practices/
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The organizations are asking the Obama administration to issue a memo not only telling employees at federal agencies they are free to speak with reporters, but also encouraging them to. The letter also requests the administration create a way to report incidences of suppression or stonewalling of media requests.
“The practices have become more and more pervasive throughout America, preventing information from getting to the public in an accurate and timely matter,” said David Cuillier, president of the Society of Professional Journalists in a statement. “The president pledged to be the most transparent in history. He can start by ending these practices now.”
Shortly after assuming office in 2009, President Obama pledged to run “the most transparent administration in history,” and the White House has stuck to the line, despite numerous complaints and studies that indicate the Obama administration is little better, and in some cases worse, than its predecessor.
Last year, the Committee to Protect Journalists released a scathing report on the Obama administration’s attempts to control media access.
“The Obama administration’s aggressive war on leaks, and its determined efforts to control information that the news media needs to hold the government accountable for its actions, are without equal since the Nixon administration and in direct conflict with President Obama’s often-stated goal of making his administration the most transparent in American history,” former Washington Post executive editor and report author Leonard Downie, Jr. said.
The New York Times’ David Sanger told Downie the Obama administration is the “most closed, control-freak administration” he has ever covered.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
“The practices have become more and more pervasive throughout America, preventing information from getting to the public in an accurate and timely matter,” said David Cuillier, president of the Society of Professional Journalists in a statement. “The president pledged to be the most transparent in history. He can start by ending these practices now.”
Shortly after assuming office in 2009, President Obama pledged to run “the most transparent administration in history,” and the White House has stuck to the line, despite numerous complaints and studies that indicate the Obama administration is little better, and in some cases worse, than its predecessor.
Last year, the Committee to Protect Journalists released a scathing report on the Obama administration’s attempts to control media access.
“The Obama administration’s aggressive war on leaks, and its determined efforts to control information that the news media needs to hold the government accountable for its actions, are without equal since the Nixon administration and in direct conflict with President Obama’s often-stated goal of making his administration the most transparent in American history,” former Washington Post executive editor and report author Leonard Downie, Jr. said.
The New York Times’ David Sanger told Downie the Obama administration is the “most closed, control-freak administration” he has ever covered.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Lets hope its good enough and not flawed like darkcoin's coinjoin.
What was wrong with darkcoin?
I thought it was doing well.
Even couple of my friends were mining it with their rigs and were making a good profit off of it.
o.o?
What's wrong with it is that he didn't.
being anonymous not so much: http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01
Except that that's not how Darkcoin works.
I would like to think that I don't need anonymity. I am good guy, I never did anything wrong. But the way government and other big companies are collecting info on people now I think that anonymity is the only way to live. I don't want to be catalogued, and I want to keep my thoughts and views to myself.
Of course you need it. It's not about being a good guy or doing anything wrong. The government shouldnt be allowed into your property to hassle you without any evidence or wrong doing just to see if there might be a random chance you have been doing something wrong. Even people on the street shouldnt be able to know your details if you don't want them to.
Of course the government shouldn't be allowed into your property to hassle you without any evidence or wrong doing. In fact, in many countries doing so would be illegal. In modern democratic countries, the government (or police) need evidence and warrants before they hassle you.
In practice of course, such governments do hassle people, but its usually marginalized people such as ethnic minorities, the mentally ill, former criminals, etc.
The government does not just keep turning up at random houses.
They're really invading our privacy.
flawed like darkcoin's coinjoin.
fud away!
cryptonote coins
pump it up!
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
Governments will love it then.Here you go: http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-summer-2007/cheney-and-secrecy
While I don't mean to defend Cheney (such being indefensible), I find it curious that you did not link to something about the administration that has set the record in regards to secrecy:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-secrecy-up-under-obama-administration/
I would like to think that I don't need anonymity. I am good guy, I never did anything wrong. But the way government and other big companies are collecting info on people now I think that anonymity is the only way to live. I don't want to be catalogued, and I want to keep my thoughts and views to myself.
Of course you need it. It's not about being a good guy or doing anything wrong. The government shouldnt be allowed into your property to hassle you without any evidence or wrong doing just to see if there might be a random chance you have been doing something wrong. Even people on the street shouldnt be able to know your details if you don't want them to.
Of course the government shouldn't be allowed into your property to hassle you without any evidence or wrong doing. In fact, in many countries doing so would be illegal. In modern democratic countries, the government (or police) need evidence and warrants before they hassle you.
In practice of course, such governments do hassle people, but its usually marginalized people such as ethnic minorities, the mentally ill, former criminals, etc.
The government does not just keep turning up at random houses.
My name is cbeast, and I'm a bitcoinaholic.
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
Governments will love it then.Here you go: http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-summer-2007/cheney-and-secrecy
I would like to think that I don't need anonymity. I am good guy, I never did anything wrong. But the way government and other big companies are collecting info on people now I think that anonymity is the only way to live. I don't want to be catalogued, and I want to keep my thoughts and views to myself.
So essence, you want to be treated like and individual by the government instead of being filed into labels.Am I wrong?
I din't think thats possible with the gov doing all of this mumbo jumbo
Annonymity is important to hide from criminals (including governements) that want to do things they shouldn't do.
If they can't see you, then you are not on their radar.
This actually is a very good point. If you are known to have a lot of money or something else that criminals might want (information or a security clearance for example) then you would be subject to a lot of attacks. However if this is not public information then criminals would be much less likely to attempt an attack. If they can't see you, then you are not on their radar.
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
Governments will love it then.Here you go: http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-summer-2007/cheney-and-secrecy
Personally I don't care much about my anonymity, probably because I own almost nothing in cryptos.
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
Governments will love it then. Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
Governments will love it then. 
Annonymity is important to hide from criminals (including governements) that want to do things they shouldn't do.
If they can't see you, then you are not on their radar.
If they can't see you, then you are not on their radar.
I would like to think that I don't need anonymity. I am good guy, I never did anything wrong. But the way government and other big companies are collecting info on people now I think that anonymity is the only way to live. I don't want to be catalogued, and I want to keep my thoughts and views to myself.
Of course you need it. It's not about being a good guy or doing anything wrong. The government shouldnt be allowed into your property to hassle you without any evidence or wrong doing just to see if there might be a random chance you have been doing something wrong. Even people on the street shouldnt be able to know your details if you don't want them to.
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