Pages:
Author

Topic: Why Anonymity so important to you? - page 3. (Read 9438 times)

legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1004
August 11, 2014, 07:55:45 AM
I would like to think that I don't need anonymity. I am good guy, I never did anything wrong. But the way government and other big companies are collecting info on people now I think that anonymity is the only way to live. I don't want to be catalogued, and I want to keep my thoughts and views to myself.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 509
August 11, 2014, 07:03:06 AM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.

I never thought about that, cryptocurrency is really awesome for ransom!

I discover a new way to use BTC each day. Amazing.
So far, BTC is not anonymous. You'll need to use something else.

I think it's pretty anonymous. You don't know who I am and I don't know who you are except for a username.

It's not truly anonymous, but the people behind it or using it can be if they're careful. IF you look at the transactions happening on the blockchain it'll be hard to trace them to a real world identity, but you could find some into out about them if they were sloppy.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
August 11, 2014, 07:01:53 AM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.

I never thought about that, cryptocurrency is really awesome for ransom!

I discover a new way to use BTC each day. Amazing.
So far, BTC is not anonymous. You'll need to use something else.

I think it's pretty anonymous. You don't know who I am and I don't know who you are except for a username.
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 10
https://bountyminer.io
August 11, 2014, 06:58:12 AM
If the government is determine to prosecute someone, they can find any excuse to make it happen.

Having anonymity make it harder for them.
I think that government will find any way to control bitcoin or any different cryptocurrency that would become very popular imho
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
August 11, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
If bitcoin were really truly anonymous in 100% It would be great, but there are ways i.e blockchain to track your coins. While it does not show you directly your location or name it can be tracked. But it is still better that credit cards or other online payments method...

How would Bitcoin work without the Blockchain? I don't think you 'got' the basic idea or principle of Bitcoin. It is important that every transaction is visible and accountable for by the whole network and everyone participating in Bitcoin!!!

It is important that the transactions are secure and can be verified and not be counterfeited, but it is not important that they are visible to everyone, Monero and other cryptonote coins fixed this issue, do not drink the kool-aid that your finances should be public with a thinly veiled line between you and your btc address in real world usage Smiley

Bitcoin could do this too with a DAC ontop of it that mixes the coins while removing the taint. This will come sooner or later.

Lets hope its good enough and not flawed like darkcoin's coinjoin.
What was wrong with darkcoin?
I thought it was doing well.
Even couple of my friends were mining it with their rigs and were making a good profit off of it.
o.o?
hero member
Activity: 988
Merit: 1000
August 10, 2014, 11:23:09 PM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.

I never thought about that, cryptocurrency is really awesome for ransom!

I discover a new way to use BTC each day. Amazing.
So far, BTC is not anonymous. You'll need to use something else.

Still, if you provide a single empty deposit address, you are in complete possesion of the ransom money and they have no way of finding out who you are through that wallet. Your next steps need to be very careful, but I bet if you play it right, you can mix/flip those BTC without ever getting caught.
If you were to ever spend the coins that are deposited into the "ransom" address then you could potentially be subjected to a number of potential timing attacks, especially if attackers have somewhat of an idea of who the kidnapper is (a simi-small pool of people)
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
August 10, 2014, 09:53:17 PM
in a time where everyone clamors to be seen and or famous, it's made everyone numb to the fact that they're giving away their freedom... we take our anonymity more and more for granted and makes it so much easier for "them" to track us.

anonymous is the new famous.
I think that statement is quite contradictory.
I see where you're going with that though.
I think the US is just afraid of the people creating an uprising.
Might just be me though.

I think he meant being anonymous nowadays is a more prestigious advantage than being famous and pried by an astronomical number of agents.
I see I see.
Especially since if you do something wrong while famous the media wi just blow up all over your face. While being anonymous is just being the everyday joe. I guess. Since you need your space
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
August 10, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
For me, it's everything. If I want to do illegal things, I shouldn't have to worry. If I want to do normal activities, I shouldn't have to worry about being watched either.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
August 10, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.

I never thought about that, cryptocurrency is really awesome for ransom!

I discover a new way to use BTC each day. Amazing.
So far, BTC is not anonymous. You'll need to use something else.

Still, if you provide a single empty deposit address, you are in complete possesion of the ransom money and they have no way of finding out who you are through that wallet. Your next steps need to be very careful, but I bet if you play it right, you can mix/flip those BTC without ever getting caught.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
August 10, 2014, 08:59:35 PM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.

I never thought about that, cryptocurrency is really awesome for ransom!

I discover a new way to use BTC each day. Amazing.
So far, BTC is not anonymous. You'll need to use something else.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
August 10, 2014, 08:47:32 PM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.

I never thought about that, cryptocurrency is really awesome for ransom!

I discover a new way to use BTC each day. Amazing.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
August 10, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
Anonymity is important if you want to kidnap or assassinate someone and get paid without consequence.
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 100
August 10, 2014, 02:40:10 PM
Anonymity is important to avoid getting robbed from people and government.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1824
August 10, 2014, 02:22:07 PM
Why Anonymity so important to you?
Well, I believe in financial freedom and don't want to pay any taxes to my local tax office for something what is my investment and financial future Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
August 10, 2014, 01:42:47 PM
So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it.
So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.

But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities?
Do you just not want to be known?

I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me.
Is Anonymity not that important to you?

I don't use it because it's difficult to trace, but because 1) it's a promising investment and 2) I directly control my money.

Anonymity isn't important to me because I have no intentions of doing anything illegal, and I don't have a wife to hide any 'interesting' purchases from Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
August 10, 2014, 01:42:27 PM
If bitcoin were really truly anonymous in 100% It would be great, but there are ways i.e blockchain to track your coins. While it does not show you directly your location or name it can be tracked. But it is still better that credit cards or other online payments method...

How would Bitcoin work without the Blockchain? I don't think you 'got' the basic idea or principle of Bitcoin. It is important that every transaction is visible and accountable for by the whole network and everyone participating in Bitcoin!!!

It is important that the transactions are secure and can be verified and not be counterfeited, but it is not important that they are visible to everyone, Monero and other cryptonote coins fixed this issue, do not drink the kool-aid that your finances should be public with a thinly veiled line between you and your btc address in real world usage Smiley
I disagree with this. The fact that transactions are visible to everyone is the easiest way to confirm that a coin has not been counterfeited. if there is a hole/bug in the protocol then if all the TX are not public then it would be a long time before it would be discovered that the bug is being exploited. Additionally since most people are not technically inclined enough to audit open source code, being able to view all of the TX is the easiest way to connivence the public that coins are not being counterfeited.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
August 10, 2014, 01:36:10 PM
If bitcoin were really truly anonymous in 100% It would be great, but there are ways i.e blockchain to track your coins. While it does not show you directly your location or name it can be tracked. But it is still better that credit cards or other online payments method...

How would Bitcoin work without the Blockchain? I don't think you 'got' the basic idea or principle of Bitcoin. It is important that every transaction is visible and accountable for by the whole network and everyone participating in Bitcoin!!!

It is important that the transactions are secure and can be verified and not be counterfeited, but it is not important that they are visible to everyone, Monero and other cryptonote coins fixed this issue, do not drink the kool-aid that your finances should be public with a thinly veiled line between you and your btc address in real world usage Smiley

Bitcoin could do this too with a DAC ontop of it that mixes the coins while removing the taint. This will come sooner or later.

Lets hope its good enough and not flawed like darkcoin's coinjoin.

A DAC could pool all BTC in one address and let you have a "balance" that you can withdraw whenever you want. In such a system there would literally be no taint. But first there needs to be a good DAC implementation ontop of BTC.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
August 10, 2014, 01:31:13 PM
If bitcoin were really truly anonymous in 100% It would be great, but there are ways i.e blockchain to track your coins. While it does not show you directly your location or name it can be tracked. But it is still better that credit cards or other online payments method...

How would Bitcoin work without the Blockchain? I don't think you 'got' the basic idea or principle of Bitcoin. It is important that every transaction is visible and accountable for by the whole network and everyone participating in Bitcoin!!!

It is important that the transactions are secure and can be verified and not be counterfeited, but it is not important that they are visible to everyone, Monero and other cryptonote coins fixed this issue, do not drink the kool-aid that your finances should be public with a thinly veiled line between you and your btc address in real world usage Smiley

Bitcoin could do this too with a DAC ontop of it that mixes the coins while removing the taint. This will come sooner or later.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
August 10, 2014, 01:05:00 PM
Since people have a right to privacy and an expected right to it without interference from another party
Although in a court case that gets overruled by a warrant or interacting with others  Wink
Still in general freedom to access information and to form opinions independently is why anonymity is important.

Also to purchase some goods that might seem embarrassing if others knew about it ^^.
Or medication etc in the future those type of private use cases where you wouldn't want others to know.
We do have a right to those privacies. We also need them. But the NSA and the government just want everything. Ugh. >.>

The worst thing is, if they try to convince people that they need to do that because of TERRORISM, and righteous people who do nothing wrong have nothing to fear. lol
I am not so sure about this. I think there are a lot of people who value their privacy a lot. I think the reason many people were so willing to give up privacy after 9/11 was because a major act of terrorism had just occurred and people saw the threat as being very real. I think a 9/11 type of event is really a very rare type of event, and the damage that occurred really could not happen again due to change in policies (not allowing even small knives on planes, not assuming that a hijacking is intended to get a ransom) and there have been a couple of failed hijackings over the years.

Isn't this generally called brainwashing? People were told that they are in immediate threat (they weren't statistically) and thus would have to do this to save their lives.

How many 9/11 were there in the last 10 years? How many traffic accidents?
9/11 is being used as reason to remove freedom, its brainwashing indeed. Statistically you have a much higher risk of being killed in a traffic accident than in a terror attack. Despite capturing 80% of the internet traffic worldwide it didn't help to prevent the Boston killings, none of these surveillance tools actually make us more secure - it makes us more vulnerable.

Exactly. Still people are cool with all the added security following 9/11 even today. It is really sad that a nation of >300m people can't stand up for themselves.
sr. member
Activity: 518
Merit: 250
August 10, 2014, 12:59:43 PM
Since people have a right to privacy and an expected right to it without interference from another party
Although in a court case that gets overruled by a warrant or interacting with others  Wink
Still in general freedom to access information and to form opinions independently is why anonymity is important.

Also to purchase some goods that might seem embarrassing if others knew about it ^^.
Or medication etc in the future those type of private use cases where you wouldn't want others to know.
We do have a right to those privacies. We also need them. But the NSA and the government just want everything. Ugh. >.>

The worst thing is, if they try to convince people that they need to do that because of TERRORISM, and righteous people who do nothing wrong have nothing to fear. lol
I am not so sure about this. I think there are a lot of people who value their privacy a lot. I think the reason many people were so willing to give up privacy after 9/11 was because a major act of terrorism had just occurred and people saw the threat as being very real. I think a 9/11 type of event is really a very rare type of event, and the damage that occurred really could not happen again due to change in policies (not allowing even small knives on planes, not assuming that a hijacking is intended to get a ransom) and there have been a couple of failed hijackings over the years.

Isn't this generally called brainwashing? People were told that they are in immediate threat (they weren't statistically) and thus would have to do this to save their lives.

How many 9/11 were there in the last 10 years? How many traffic accidents?
9/11 is being used as reason to remove freedom, its brainwashing indeed. Statistically you have a much higher risk of being killed in a traffic accident than in a terror attack. Despite capturing 80% of the internet traffic worldwide it didn't help to prevent the Boston killings, none of these surveillance tools actually make us more secure - it makes us more vulnerable.
Pages:
Jump to: