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August 09, 2014, 04:54:52 PM
Security and convenience are a never ending war of trade-offs. I would rather spend a little extra effort mixing my coins that keep in an alt that doesn't have even a fraction of the hashing power behind it.
This is not true if you think for the long term. Over short periods it takes a little bit longer to setup security, however you generally will only need to do this a limited number of times.
It may get easier over time to keep yourself secure, however it will always take more time to secure your money and identity then for them to not be secure. Being secure however does eliminate a lot of risks associated with holding even small amounts of bitcoin.
legendary
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August 09, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
from other topic:

I trade on LBC and can confirm similar suspicions.   Couple weeks ago I initiated a purchase with a local seller.  Typically Bitcoin people I've met are open and excited about the currency but this seller didn't seem particularly friendly and just answered yes or no.  What struck me as odd was as I was leaving, I caught the glance of another man seated at another table and his eyes widened as if he saw Lenin's ghost then quickly averted eye contact. I've seen that look before when I've been followed by poorly trained undercover security at department stores.  

This week, I received a package of clothing that I was expecting.  It had a clean 2 inch slit as if my mail were being inspected.  

That's all to report for now, but I'm going to send some test mail to myself.  Maybe send some flour or something...  Shocked


Because there are dickkers that will make everything to associate you with criminals activities if you are known for you bitoin envolvemtns, and this can be a pain and cause you trouble.
legendary
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August 09, 2014, 01:57:28 PM
they don't want to pay taxes i think, i can't see other reasons, beside the normal illegal activity
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August 09, 2014, 01:33:25 PM
I think this day and age the question should be why is anonymity not so important to you.  With all these devices on the open market that have the ability to surveil people without their knowing.  Does privacy concerns mean you have something bad to hide?  For me it is only something I like to have as an option if I find my privacy is not being respected.  Consider it preparation for an uncertain future.

Very true. Even google changed their ToA, to state that they have the right to see user's emails/inbox etc.
Google uses this so they can provide advertisements to your inbox effectively, so they can charge more for adsense and make more money.
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August 09, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
Yeah you're right. But you can just try and do your best to avoid being snooped on every occasion. I don't need companies to manufacture some profile of my shopping habits or where I'm buying my stuff.
Deterministic wallets with coin control will do this. Armory, Blockchain.info, and Electrum come to mind.

Yeah, they will. I didn't say that Bitcoin doesn't allow you to remain anonymous or pseudonymous. I think the way Electrum does this is a very nice thing. The seed is very easy to remember (or better: keep offline in a safe place) and you can easily reconstruct all the addresses you've used with it!
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August 09, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
I think this day and age the question should be why is anonymity not so important to you.  With all these devices on the open market that have the ability to surveil people without their knowing.  Does privacy concerns mean you have something bad to hide?  For me it is only something I like to have as an option if I find my privacy is not being respected.  Consider it preparation for an uncertain future.

Very true. Even google changed their ToA, to state that they have the right to see user's emails/inbox etc.
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August 09, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
Security and convenience are a never ending war of trade-offs. I would rather spend a little extra effort mixing my coins that keep in an alt that doesn't have even a fraction of the hashing power behind it.
This is not true if you think for the long term. Over short periods it takes a little bit longer to setup security, however you generally will only need to do this a limited number of times.
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August 09, 2014, 12:25:19 PM
Security and convenience are a never ending war of trade-offs. I would rather spend a little extra effort mixing my coins that keep in an alt that doesn't have even a fraction of the hashing power behind it.
True.
The governmet wants to tax everything they can and they want to watch every currency.
Even currencies that don't 'belong' to them.
I don't tend to mix my coins either.
I have nothing to hide.
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August 09, 2014, 02:07:51 AM
Security and convenience are a never ending war of trade-offs. I would rather spend a little extra effort mixing my coins that keep in an alt that doesn't have even a fraction of the hashing power behind it.
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August 08, 2014, 10:56:41 PM
yes at any time we will definitely need anonymity
because of online transactions also do not have the law, since the occult stuff.
so anonymity is important if at any time it happens it is not in want right
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August 08, 2014, 09:34:52 PM
I think this day and age the question should be why is anonymity not so important to you.  With all these devices on the open market that have the ability to surveil people without their knowing.  Does privacy concerns mean you have something bad to hide?  For me it is only something I like to have as an option if I find my privacy is not being respected.  Consider it preparation for an uncertain future.
legendary
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August 08, 2014, 05:52:44 PM
I dont care about anonymity at all, its global unified currency. No more currency exchanges needed, all this hasle. Thats main advantage for me.
donator
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August 08, 2014, 02:08:27 PM
Bitcoin is not anonymous, at all. Simply put, there are programs out there and in the making, that track every address associated to a designated Bitcoin address, and can interlock transactions between other known addresses of exchanges etc, to find the identity of the user if she/he cashes out via subpoena.

There goes Bitcoin's pseudo-anonymity.
You can choose to be relatively anonymous. If I had 30 different addresses in 30 different wallets filled with BTC mined through p2pool, how would you even know those addresses belonged to me?

Anyway, the reason anonymity is important is because my financial transactions are nobody's business.

That's exactly the point. It's not about "I'm not doing anything forbidden, why would I have to worry?" It is the simple fact that such things are nobody's business to even begin with! That's why we need Bitcoin!
You are discussing privacy, not anonymity.

Yeah, but privacy is a difficult thing to achieve. And one of the ways to achieve exactly that goal is anonymity or pseudonymity. It is a mere tool to achieve or protect you privacy.
Privacy is much easier to achieve than you think. Pseudonymity is temporary privacy. True anonymity is likely impossible.

Yeah you're right. But you can just try and do your best to avoid being snooped on every occasion. I don't need companies to manufacture some profile of my shopping habits or where I'm buying my stuff.
Deterministic wallets with coin control will do this. Armory, Blockchain.info, and Electrum come to mind.
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Is there life on Mars?
August 08, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
Bitcoin is not anonymous, at all. Simply put, there are programs out there and in the making, that track every address associated to a designated Bitcoin address, and can interlock transactions between other known addresses of exchanges etc, to find the identity of the user if she/he cashes out via subpoena.

There goes Bitcoin's pseudo-anonymity.
You can choose to be relatively anonymous. If I had 30 different addresses in 30 different wallets filled with BTC mined through p2pool, how would you even know those addresses belonged to me?

Anyway, the reason anonymity is important is because my financial transactions are nobody's business.

That's exactly the point. It's not about "I'm not doing anything forbidden, why would I have to worry?" It is the simple fact that such things are nobody's business to even begin with! That's why we need Bitcoin!
You are discussing privacy, not anonymity.

Yeah, but privacy is a difficult thing to achieve. And one of the ways to achieve exactly that goal is anonymity or pseudonymity. It is a mere tool to achieve or protect you privacy.
Privacy is much easier to achieve than you think. Pseudonymity is temporary privacy. True anonymity is likely impossible.

Yeah you're right. But you can just try and do your best to avoid being snooped on every occasion. I don't need companies to manufacture some profile of my shopping habits or where I'm buying my stuff.
donator
Activity: 1736
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
August 08, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
Bitcoin is not anonymous, at all. Simply put, there are programs out there and in the making, that track every address associated to a designated Bitcoin address, and can interlock transactions between other known addresses of exchanges etc, to find the identity of the user if she/he cashes out via subpoena.

There goes Bitcoin's pseudo-anonymity.
You can choose to be relatively anonymous. If I had 30 different addresses in 30 different wallets filled with BTC mined through p2pool, how would you even know those addresses belonged to me?

Anyway, the reason anonymity is important is because my financial transactions are nobody's business.

That's exactly the point. It's not about "I'm not doing anything forbidden, why would I have to worry?" It is the simple fact that such things are nobody's business to even begin with! That's why we need Bitcoin!
You are discussing privacy, not anonymity.

Yeah, but privacy is a difficult thing to achieve. And one of the ways to achieve exactly that goal is anonymity or pseudonymity. It is a mere tool to achieve or protect you privacy.
Privacy is much easier to achieve than you think. Pseudonymity is temporary privacy. True anonymity is likely impossible.
full member
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Is there life on Mars?
August 08, 2014, 01:43:33 PM
Bitcoin is not anonymous, at all. Simply put, there are programs out there and in the making, that track every address associated to a designated Bitcoin address, and can interlock transactions between other known addresses of exchanges etc, to find the identity of the user if she/he cashes out via subpoena.

There goes Bitcoin's pseudo-anonymity.
You can choose to be relatively anonymous. If I had 30 different addresses in 30 different wallets filled with BTC mined through p2pool, how would you even know those addresses belonged to me?

Anyway, the reason anonymity is important is because my financial transactions are nobody's business.

That's exactly the point. It's not about "I'm not doing anything forbidden, why would I have to worry?" It is the simple fact that such things are nobody's business to even begin with! That's why we need Bitcoin!
You are discussing privacy, not anonymity.

Yeah, but privacy is a difficult thing to achieve. And one of the ways to achieve exactly that goal is anonymity or pseudonymity. It is a mere tool to achieve or protect you privacy.
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
August 08, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
Anonymity is a Unicorn. It's beauty lives in the imagination only.
hero member
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August 08, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
Its like a warm blanket...
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August 08, 2014, 01:21:55 PM
We have 8 billion people on this planet.
Why should we be a suspect of crimes even if we did nothing wrong?  Huh
legendary
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August 08, 2014, 01:19:51 PM
Anonymity is for me some kind of online protections because I don't want that my financial info become public info, available to hackers but also to financial institutions in my county.
''Big brother'' doesn't need to know everything Smiley
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