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Topic: Why Anonymity so important to you? - page 8. (Read 9438 times)

legendary
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July 23, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
It's not important to me as i'm not doing anything i should be afraid of, but, i do understand that there are many LEGAL situations where ppl need anonimity and it's cool to know that if i eve need to "dissapear" for some time, BTC in combination with other tools can help.
hero member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 500
July 23, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
I want a digital version of cash. I cant buy into a poker game with a check, paypal, or a VISA card
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
July 23, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.


Precisely my point.
It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC.
There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet.

There is no personal or IP information in the blockchain. Data mining is futile. The NSA is overwhelmed. This is a typical tinfoil hat argument.
member
Activity: 84
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July 23, 2014, 09:58:02 AM
So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it.
So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.

But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities?
Do you just not want to be known?

I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me.
Is Anonymity not that important to you?

If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are.

In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy.

Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know.
Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job.
Also this.
Why not use ltc of dark coin or what not?
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Is there life on Mars?
July 23, 2014, 07:58:27 AM
So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it.
So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.

But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities?
Do you just not want to be known?

I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me.
Is Anonymity not that important to you?

If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are.

In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy.

Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know.
Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job.

Yeah well, until you - at some point - forward the BTC in those addresses to some address on an exchange or pool them all in one address. It only remains anonymous as long as it isn't connected to some known entity (address)
sr. member
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Merit: 250
July 23, 2014, 07:06:19 AM
So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it.
So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.

But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities?
Do you just not want to be known?

I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me.
Is Anonymity not that important to you?

If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are.

In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy.

Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know.
Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Is there life on Mars?
July 23, 2014, 06:59:12 AM
There are so many things going wrong these days. Databases leak on a weekly basis. You just buy something at Target and suddenly it appears that your Credit Card information got stolen. If you can't trust people to handle your data responsibly you just have to take care of that yourself!
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
July 23, 2014, 06:41:54 AM
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.

You are a good example. The air you breathe is public too. Does that threaten your privacy?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
July 23, 2014, 04:19:40 AM
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.


Precisely my point.
It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC.
There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet.


Elite private proxies anyone?
Well I guess.
To the common person that's plausible.
What about the black hats.
How are they going to be anonymous with exhanges when the gov comes and busts them down?

Oh, Probecito!

I AM the "Blackhat" to whom you refer.

LOL!

You don't think we can get around all of that?

Think again.

Have a nice whitehat day while the government fucks you to death.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 23, 2014, 02:09:36 AM
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.


Precisely my point.
It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC.
There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet.


Elite private proxies anyone?
Well I guess.
To the common person that's plausible.
What about the black hats.
How are they going to be anonymous with exhanges when the gov comes and busts them down?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
July 22, 2014, 11:35:37 PM
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.


Precisely my point.
It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC.
There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet.


Elite private proxies anyone?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 22, 2014, 11:20:49 PM
#99
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.


Precisely my point.
It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC.
There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet.
alz
full member
Activity: 227
Merit: 100
July 22, 2014, 01:18:30 PM
#98
I don't want to spam this tread with tons of darkcoin related info but as there seems to be some interest in Cryptocoins that can provide the kind of blockchain privacy lacking from bitcoin ATM.
So I willl post this illustration from darkcointalk showing how the current implementation protects the end user from unwanted identification via blockchain analysis .

legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1001
Let the chips fall where they may.
July 22, 2014, 11:57:30 AM
#97
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.

Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile.
alz
full member
Activity: 227
Merit: 100
July 22, 2014, 11:46:13 AM
#96
There are some newer Cryptocoins that tout anonymity using various methods of blockchain obfuscation ,of these Darkcoin has the most promise IMO as the development team has been the most transparent and have come up with several unique inovations that other coins were quick to clone.
Darkcoins unique Darksend+  blockchain obfuscation system is currently undergoing an independent code and feature review from noted Crypographer and Crypto coin expert Kristov Atlas, the results of Kristov's analysis are due in about a week

As I understand it, Darkcoin just uses CoinJoin transactions that you can already do with Bitcoin. The unrelated darkwallet should let you do the same thing with stock Bitcoin.

I think that Crypotnote-based currencies show the most promise for privacy. They use "ring signatures" to obfuscate who spent specific coins. Double spending is stopped by something they call a "key image" that is somehow tied to your private key. They also split up the denominations of transactions like darksend+ apparently does.

Although the Darksend functionality of Darkcoin was originally based on coinjoin it has undergone at least 3 major rewrites since it was implemented and is now far more versatile and effective as a method of trustless blockchain obfuscation.

The main advantages over Ring sigs are the lack of any blockchain bloating ( Darkcoin blockchain = 300mb ish) and the fact that the API is unchanged from Bitcoins so merchant adoption is straightforward and proven whereas  all the Cryptonote/Ring Signature based coins will require a complete API rewrite from the merchant side before they will be able to process payments.


legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1001
Let the chips fall where they may.
July 22, 2014, 11:36:18 AM
#95
There are some newer Cryptocoins that tout anonymity using various methods of blockchain obfuscation ,of these Darkcoin has the most promise IMO as the development team has been the most transparent and have come up with several unique inovations that other coins were quick to clone.
Darkcoins unique Darksend+  blockchain obfuscation system is currently undergoing an independent code and feature review from noted Crypographer and Crypto coin expert Kristov Atlas, the results of Kristov's analysis are due in about a week

As I understand it, Darkcoin just uses CoinJoin transactions that you can already do with Bitcoin. The unrelated darkwallet should let you do the same thing with stock Bitcoin.

I think that Crypotnote-based currencies show the most promise for privacy. They use "ring signatures" to obfuscate who spent specific coins. Double spending is stopped by something they call a "key image" that is somehow tied to your private key. They also split up the denominations of transactions like darksend+ apparently does.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Relax!
July 22, 2014, 11:35:20 AM
#94
I think it's great to be able to buy stuff online without using your credit card or giving them the ability to steal your identity. Why would someone need to know what I'm buying online, maan?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
July 22, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
#93
It is important for me. My financial position or personal information is known by third parties who may abuse all the information. Other parties intends to push advertisement to us based on the info they get.It is so annoying.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
July 22, 2014, 10:32:11 AM
#92
Anonymity is very important. It's not only for those who have something to hide, but for people who merely value their privacy. Just because we arent doing anything wrong doesnt mean it's ok for the government to therefor peer into our lives. This blanket surveilance they have has got to stop.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 22, 2014, 10:20:35 AM
#91
It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.
Kind of true.
I for one like my privacy.
But being anonymous is kind of strange to me.
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