Why are so many gambling discussion threads getting locked?

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on September 16, 2024, 08:23:54 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

If this trend continues, mods will likely keep locking threads to manage the spam.

So, what can we do about this? As a regular user who enjoys participating in campaigns, I can't help but noticed this.

Avoid posting on mega thread I guess? Most the lock thread usually concluded with answers on the first page alone. I think mods think that there’s no point on opening the thread if the answer is just recycle.

Some mega threads are still super useful even now. Like @coin-investor mentioned, threads about sports and sports betting are prime examples. Sure, they're mega threads..., some have been active for over a year - but that doesn't automatically make them spam. While occasional spam messages might slip in, these threads offer ongoing value.

It's great that the new mods are being strict. That's exactly what we want: more valuable content and less spam in the forum!

After taking in all your great suggestions, I now understand why it's important to close certain threads and what we can do to minimize spam posts. As forum members, let's be responsible with our contributions. Let's avoid engaging with low-content threads, and even for interesting topics, once we've received the valuable answers, let's close them to keep the forum clean.

With that said, I'm locking this thread since I believe it has served its purpose. Thank you, everyone!

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When a post gets over 6 pages long in the gambling discussion board, there's very rarely any substance left in terms of discussion.

Some posts are general threads talking about a continuous topic such as the current premiere league season, these can stay open for a year and have thousands of responses that make logical sense.
But when a general question is asked, there's only so much that can be said before it becomes redundant to keep responding to the OP.

So the mods took a good initiative to start locking these threads IMO. More posters here should take it upon themselves to crate original discussions.
Start a thread about your local league, start a thread about minor sports that you like and deserve more spotlight... Start a thread to see which casinos have the best offers and compare them... Don't just repeat the same stuff over and over.

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How many non-gambling posters are now jumped up there just because of a signature campaign?

The reason is a vast majority of users here promote gambling companies and participants need to reach the weekly quota requirements.
Once seeing the thread being spammed, mods immediately take action by locking the thread.

spammed thread resulting in redundant post
reported spamming thread

That's might the reasons.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

If this trend continues, mods will likely keep locking threads to manage the spam.

So, what can we do about this? As a regular user who enjoys participating in campaigns, I can't help but noticed this.

Avoid posting on mega thread I guess? Most the lock thread usually concluded with answers on the first page alone. I think mods think that there’s no point on opening the thread if the answer is just recycle.

I always lock the thread that I started when I already get enough answer that satisfies my curiosity. This is the important thing that needs to be remembered for all thread starter on gambling board to avoid being part of spam enabler.

I notice recently that mods become strict since one of the topic I started got deleted even if it’s completely relevant to gambling discussion. Mods will become more strict if we keep creating thread that is prone of being spam.

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So many replies are getting redundant on mega thread, especially if the topic is a generic gambling discussion, its different if its an event like Boxing or football where there are additional updates and news coming, so its just right that the OP and the moderators locked these generic gambling discussion.

I am active in creating new threads on the gambling discussion, but I made it a point to put a notice and try to minimize the replies that are likely redundant, although some of the time I forgot to lock it because I still receive a lot of good and natural replies.

This is a sample of template I used in some of my topic

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 16, 2024, 02:00:07 AM

The solution should come from us since the sheer number of users makes it challenging for moderators to handle all the reports. Plus, spam isn’t limited to the gambling section/board; it’s likely worse in other areas. Thanks for your input - so far, this is the best suggestion I’ve seen.

Well cant think of other solution or assists from users besides reporting to mod some redundant and off topics on the section. The large number of post or topic is likely inevitable since most signature campaign are casino projects which likely focus on increasing the awareness of their project on gamblers or users who often visit those sites.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on September 16, 2024, 04:19:04 AM

Maybe its time casino companies that are running gambling based campaigns lighten the need to post in gambling section? Making 10 posts every week as a quota means making at least 2 posts per day to keep up with any removals or thread moved to "Offtopic/Archival"

It has indeed become difficult to keep up with this change, which is welcome from the mods because the spam in that section is high.

Again since the admin has made a specific type of service banned, only casinos are the major share of campaigns now and with need to post these many posts every day a bottleneck is happening every week. Embarrassed

I don’t think it’s too much. A minimum of 10 pots in gambling section is decent IMO. Signature campaigns are not running a charity. Casinos are paying signature participants to increase their brand awareness. If you run a business and you’re advertising on bitcointalk, you would want to target a very specific audience on the forum. For casinos, their potential customers are users in the gambling section.

I understand that for those who are new to gambling section, it will be quite difficult adjusting your post pattern to fit the campaign requirements. The choices are limited, you either join a signature campaign for exchanges or you adapt.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on September 16, 2024, 12:00:02 AM

Do you think you need multiple threads to discuss the same thing? A few days ago, another forum member created a thread asking why there are three threads on the gambling board just about the Premier League and why the moderators did not lock or delete them. Now you are asking why moderators are locking some threads. You never know if those topics are locked by the moderators or by the author.

If those threads are locked by the moderators, you should know that they did it for a reason. It's probably because of a duplicate thread. You don't have to write all your posts in the gambling section to participate in campaigns. Most campaigns requires you five to ten posts in gambling section in a week. So, it's less than two posts a day. It's not hard to find at least two interesting thread a day.

Also, if those threads were already locked, most likely the author itself has already been satisfied with those replies coming from different posters, so he needs to lock it in order to avoid receiving redundant answers that only tells the same scenarios. I think there’s actually no problem here. Just find another thread that interests you and you think you’ll be able to provide an impressive solution to whatever the thread is asking you. Otherwise, leave the gambling boards and explore into other interesting boards.

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Maybe its time casino companies that are running gambling based campaigns lighten the need to post in gambling section? Making 10 posts every week as a quota means making at least 2 posts per day to keep up with any removals or thread moved to "Offtopic/Archival"

It has indeed become difficult to keep up with this change, which is welcome from the mods because the spam in that section is high.

Again since the admin has made a specific type of service banned, only casinos are the major share of campaigns now and with need to post these many posts every day a bottleneck is happening every week. Embarrassed

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

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If this trend continues, mods will likely keep locking threads to manage the spam.

So, what can we do about this? As a regular user who enjoys participating in campaigns, I can't help but noticed this.

For me, I see no reason why most of those threads were locked and the burning question is why is it that it is until some people report that moderators act that way, does it mean that some people's opinion controls their decisions?

This is not the first time this has happened and the gambling section takes a breath after a while. The last time was recently when this guy made a post and even good, engaging, and educating gambling threads were locked just because they are in the gambling section with a high number of posts and the OP was absent.

I've participated in many forums of different sectors and for different reasons, there are many of them with the OP long gone and the threads are still active for over a decade. Why are people talking big deals out of nothing? What I frown at is low-quality posting, such should be pointed out and not the whole thread taken down. Sad

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

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Currently, a large number of gambling sites are being promoted on this forum through signature campaigns. And since there is a requirement to post a minimum amount on gambling boards, a lot of spamming has started on gaming boards and no one is responsible for posting on gambling boards. Due to which the same topic is being opened frequently and the same user is posting multiple times on the same topic without any need. Because of which many topics of gambling boards are being locked.

famososMuertos already make a topic about this and there LoyceV posted some report by list. check here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5507221

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

Although I have a hint about why this is happening, I’d really like to hear your thoughts on it and get some good solutions to clean up or minimize the spam.

The only solution at the moment is to report them to moderators because forum administration isn't going to restrict freedom of speech, which is good but the negative side is that it often converts into spam. So, just report them.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

If this trend continues, mods will likely keep locking threads to manage the spam.

Not only should they lock, they also should move threads in off-topic immediately, so spammers won't get paid for their posts and then spammers will analyze that there is no point into posting spammy posts in spammy gambling threads because they'll move in off-topic and they won't get their weekly payment. To be honest, this is the best solution!

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I don’t see any reason why any of these threads should be allowed to continue after the third page and become the pointless mega threads we all complain about. The threads that are left open in the gambling board are those that are updated with new content and need continuous comments from other members.

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Mods locking gambling posts is to prevent spam. Some gambling topics doesn't need to be discussed because there will always be a user who creates the same or similar topic every other week. An example is "gambling addiction", "What will you do if your wife found out this or that". And secondly some of the topics even when they are gambling addiction related they so low quality and off-topic that you just know that there is no substance to it. To prevent repetitive replies, the mods lock topic. I have had some of my topics locked or moved to off-topic and I just take it as one of those things and then try to improve. The lesson here is that the mods will do what mods do, users should improve on their posts, and if they feel their topics deserved not to be locked or moved, they can bring it to this board to seek clarifications.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on September 16, 2024, 01:52:35 AM

.....but they could handle only so much and we users need to step up and need to decide what's the right thing to do.

This is an excellent suggestion. The solution should come from us since the sheer number of users makes it challenging for moderators to handle all the reports. Plus, spam isn’t limited to the gambling section/board; it’s likely worse in other areas. Thanks for your input - so far, this is the best suggestion I’ve seen.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

If this trend continues, mods will likely keep locking threads to manage the spam.

So, what can we do about this? As a regular user who enjoys participating in campaigns, I can't help but noticed this.

I have seen this enough once in a while mod decide to lock redundant topics that had been discussed over and over again and also they tried to move some of them off topic which are not directly related to gambling but they could handle only so much and we users need to step up and need to decide what's the right thing to do.

I try to keep the report to moderator tool to handle this and I am happy if those reports were handled as they should be. So we help to clean the forum with necessary discussion exists and sweep them which are no longer needed.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 16, 2024, 01:33:36 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 16, 2024, 12:25:03 AM

So maybe if there’s better coordination between campaign managers, it could help reduce the spam.

Write your suggestion.

I’m seeking suggestions from everyone on this topic. This thread isn’t about pushing my ideas but rather sharing my observations. I appreciate those who recognize this as a valid issue that needs open discussion, as I believe it can help the forum, especially in reducing spam. Honestly, I don’t have any concrete suggestions yet, which is why I started this thread. I know there are many knowledgeable people here who might have valuable input.

Quote from: Helena Yu on September 16, 2024, 01:33:36 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 16, 2024, 12:25:03 AM

Here’s something else I noticed: some users have a lot of merits but aren't really active in the gambling board. Yet, when they apply for campaigns, acceptance often depends on how many merits they have. So, once they're accepted and required to make 10 posts in the gambling section, what kind of valuable posts are they really going to add if they weren’t gambling posters to begin with?

So? ask the campaign managers because they're the one who accept that users, they're the only one who know what's the best for their campaign, not you, me, nor other people because we can only judge them.

You need to know the campaign managers can do whatever they want, having two accounts in the same campaign is cheating, right? that rule is nothing when the campaign manager allow that to the user they want to hire!

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Please consider adjusting the tone of your response; this isn't meant to attack anyone or any group. I never said having two accounts in one campaign is against the rules, and I still believe that the final decision on participant acceptance lies with the campaign manager. My comment was just a side observation. If someone has earned a lot of merits but isn't really into gambling, they might not contribute much value to a gambling-focused campaign. However, if you're part of a campaign where the manager doesn't fall into that category, then this message isn't directed at you.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 16, 2024, 12:25:03 AM

So maybe if there’s better coordination between campaign managers, it could help reduce the spam.

Write your suggestion.

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Here’s something else I noticed: some users have a lot of merits but aren't really active in the gambling board. Yet, when they apply for campaigns, acceptance often depends on how many merits they have. So, once they're accepted and required to make 10 posts in the gambling section, what kind of valuable posts are they really going to add if they weren’t gambling posters to begin with?

So? ask the campaign managers because they're the one who accept that users, they're the only one who know what's the best for their campaign, not you, me, nor other people because we can only judge them.

You need to know the campaign managers can do whatever they want, having two accounts in the same campaign is cheating, right? that rule is nothing when the campaign manager allow that to the user they want to hire!

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

So, what can we do about this? As a regular user who enjoys participating in campaigns, I can't help but noticed this.

You've raised an excellent point that deserves more open discussion. Most campaigns on this forum are focused on gambling, and they typically require participants to post 10 to 15 times per week in the gambling section. This naturally leads to a mix of both high-quality and low-quality posts. If moderators are locking threads, they're doing a great job, because without that, participants would likely spam a single thread, causing it to grow excessively, sometimes up to 10 pages or more.

Managers like icopress (if I'm not mistaken) and others discourage posts on mega threads—those that are over 10 pages long. This approach encourages participants to create new threads, fostering more genuine and healthy discussions as they meet their posting quotas. I don't participate in the gambling section since I'm not currently involved in gambling campaigns, but your reasoning is absolutely valid.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on September 16, 2024, 12:00:02 AM

Do you think you need multiple threads to discuss the same thing? A few days ago, another forum member created a thread asking why there are three threads on the gambling board just about the Premier League and why the moderators did not lock or delete them. Now you are asking why moderators are locking some threads. You never know if those topics are locked by the moderators or by the author.

The topics you are referring to are English Premier League discussions threads. The threads are not locked. Also the person that created a thread recently created another premier League thread but an user posted on the same thread that other similar threads like it are existing already on gambling board.

About multiple threads, I do not think the threads are the same. The only reason moderator will lock such threads is because there is nothing to discuss on the thread that is new again. But this will later lead to creation of similar thread later after it has been locked. Locking topic is common on gambling board before but it stopped and now it has resumed.

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on September 16, 2024, 12:00:02 AM

If those threads are locked by the moderators, you should know that they did it for a reason. It's probably because of a duplicate thread. You don't have to write all your posts in the gambling section to participate in campaigns. Most campaigns requires you five to ten posts in gambling section in a week. So, it's less than two posts a day. It's not hard to find at least two interesting thread a day.

No, not because of duplicate threads is what I see. Like i said, it is because the thread is getting long. But why are long threads on boards that are not gambling boards are not locked also?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 15, 2024, 11:51:16 PM

Although I have a hint about why this is happening, I’d really like to hear your thoughts on it and get some good solutions to clean up or minimize the spam.

This is not about spam alone, but its annoying when you see that some topics were just created out of nothing, with subject matter on what has always been discussed several times a good example is ''gambling addiction'' personally, ive noticed that more threads have being created on this same particular headline, when it has on several occasions been discussed, another reason is low quality contents, if the thread created doesn't deserve being a topic of discussion base on the contents in it, then it would have been better to be a reply than a new topic, many are spamming, posting low contents, creating topics which are irrelevant, not that we cannot create any new topic again, but the reason for doing that must be something unique and constructive.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on September 16, 2024, 12:00:02 AM

Do you think you need multiple threads to discuss the same thing? A few days ago, another forum member created a thread asking why there are three threads on the gambling board just about the Premier League and why the moderators did not lock or delete them. Now you are asking why moderators are locking some threads. You never know if those topics are locked by the moderators or by the author.

If those threads are locked by the moderators, you should know that they did it for a reason. It's probably because of a duplicate thread. You don't have to write all your posts in the gambling section to participate in campaigns.

I don’t see the same topic, sorry.

But it’s not just about a thread in the Premier League. If you look at the gambling discussion, there are a lot of threads being locked there too. That’s why I thought of starting this thread, to get some ideas on “why” this is happening and “what we should do to prevent it.”

Quote from: Helena Yu on September 16, 2024, 12:03:44 AM

What does this mean?

Are you blame the moderators for tightening the moderation in gambling discussion? the forum have rules.
Are you blame the campaign managers who set 5-10 posts in gambling board instead of pay per post or not require certain amount post in gambling board?

What we can do? then try to create a new thread (of course not the low quality one), post in endless discussion e.g. sports, ANN thread.

I’m not blaming anyone here, so no need to worry! I’m just here to share my observations and help us figure out a solution.

This isn't about pointing fingers but finding ways to make things better. I'm not blaming campaign managers either; I'm just noticing that many threads are getting locked (you can even check now), and that usually means there's a spam issue, right? So maybe if there’s better coordination between campaign managers, it could help reduce the spam. After all, we all want to see less spam, especially in sections where users are required to post regularly.

Here’s something else I noticed: some users have a lot of merits but aren't really active in the gambling board. Yet, when they apply for campaigns, acceptance often depends on how many merits they have. So, once they're accepted and required to make 10 posts in the gambling section, what kind of valuable posts are they really going to add if they weren’t gambling posters to begin with?

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What does this mean?

Are you blame the moderators for tightening the moderation in gambling discussion? the forum have rules.
Are you blame the campaign managers who set 5-10 posts in gambling board instead of pay per post or not require certain amount post in gambling board?

What we can do? then try to create a new thread (of course not the low quality one), post in endless discussion e.g. sports, ANN thread.

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Do you think you need multiple threads to discuss the same thing? A few days ago, another forum member created a thread asking why there are three threads on the gambling board just about the Premier League and why the moderators did not lock or delete them. Now you are asking why moderators are locking some threads. You never know if those topics are locked by the moderators or by the author.

If those threads are locked by the moderators, you should know that they did it for a reason. It's probably because of a duplicate thread. You don't have to write all your posts in the gambling section to participate in campaigns. Most campaigns requires you five to ten posts in gambling section in a week. So, it's less than two posts a day. It's not hard to find at least two interesting thread a day.

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Although I have a hint about why this is happening, I’d really like to hear your thoughts on it and get some good solutions to clean up or minimize the spam.

We know that many posts in the gambling discussion come from active signature campaigns, often run by casinos. These campaigns typically require a certain number of posts per week, like 5 to 10. With so many members, the number of posts just keeps increasing. Additionally, campaign managers are always on the lookout for active users in the gambling board, so even those without current campaigns might post there to increase their chances of landing a new one.

If this trend continues, mods will likely keep locking threads to manage the spam.

So, what can we do about this? As a regular user who enjoys participating in campaigns, I can't help but noticed this.

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