Topic: Why are there so many new dice sites popping up? (Read 2407 times)
People see sites like just-dice that have made a lot of money in profit off of gamblers and they want to cash in on that. It's the gold rush, except the smart people sell the shovels.
Because dice sites are easy to make, and they are quite popular nowadays. Also, with sites like moneypot that offer an API to run your own gambling site, making a dice site is now easier than ever. Also, you have nothing to lose making a site with moneypot, because the bankroll is prefunded, so you don't have to fund a bankroll.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
I like dice myself but I agree..too many sites popping with dice only games.
Yeah it has many dice site nowadays but with this thing coming up the chance of people playing is a bigger.
People create this dice site because the first thing it will get back what you invested in front, the second thing is this will attract people on playing here because of its easier to make money with dice site it is like bet head and tail so this is why dice site keep popping although there is so many out there
soooo agree with you mate 
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
Why dont you become a pioneer then and make something new? It will be for all our benefit or? I dont see what the agro is. Just ignore them if they irritate you that much. It is a free market and competition is healthy for customers. You get plenty more options/more giveaways etc. The new guys make the more established sites work harder at bern better to keep their customers.
I will love to enter this market, can somebody please show me how?
for starting something new you need to have: idea,money to make it (if you dont know how yourself and that is expensive) and you need to have a bankroll if its a game that is against house edge. and i dont have that.
regards.
-Katerniko1
I think most of the brillaint ideas when it comes to Bitcoin and Gambling have pretty much been discovered. Not many other games that can be created in the virtual/online world.
soooo agree with you mate
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
Why dont you become a pioneer then and make something new? It will be for all our benefit or? I dont see what the agro is. Just ignore them if they irritate you that much. It is a free market and competition is healthy for customers. You get plenty more options/more giveaways etc. The new guys make the more established sites work harder at bern better to keep their customers.
I will love to enter this market, can somebody please show me how?
for starting something new you need to have: idea,money to make it (if you dont know how yourself and that is expensive) and you need to have a bankroll if its a game that is against house edge. and i dont have that.
regards.
-Katerniko1
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
I like dice myself but I agree..too many sites popping with dice only games.
To be honest, if you worry that much why don't you create thread for ideas to innovate the dice world (if that is even possible).
We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
i really dont think theres much more room for improvement on dice sites, one can only get so creative... pretty sure people are flat out of ideas at this point. We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
Yes I totally agree with you, I mean we roll a dice. The only idea I can come up with is to try to adapt the parlay system for dice, meaning that you would have to win some amount of rolls in a row to actually keep your winnings (but with a multiplier of course, just like a parlay bet). I don't play dice very often so maybe that already exists lol
Anyway, competition is good, so I say keep them coming, I don't see any problem with that.
Yes that was the idea, decide the high/low result and then ask to roll that number of times. I also don't know ho to calculate the odds and edge correctly. Like I said I play dice from time to time so I don't even know if it could be profitable for the house. Maybe they already thought about this, but it's not doable. If it is possible, then there is no excuse not to try to bring something new to the dice world xD
It would be funny to see a random thought like this to become a new feature lol
There are too many dice sites in the business but none of them is good enough to compete with currency casinos.
Most of the Bitcoin dice sites are faking their stats. Fake promotions, fake accounts just to bump their threads. They can't compete with this mentality.
Most of the Bitcoin dice sites are faking their stats. Fake promotions, fake accounts just to bump their threads. They can't compete with this mentality.
To be honest, if you worry that much why don't you create thread for ideas to innovate the dice world (if that is even possible).
We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
i really dont think theres much more room for improvement on dice sites, one can only get so creative... pretty sure people are flat out of ideas at this point. We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
Yes I totally agree with you, I mean we roll a dice. The only idea I can come up with is to try to adapt the parlay system for dice, meaning that you would have to win some amount of rolls in a row to actually keep your winnings (but with a multiplier of course, just like a parlay bet). I don't play dice very often so maybe that already exists lol
Anyway, competition is good, so I say keep them coming, I don't see any problem with that.
To be honest, if you worry that much why don't you create thread for ideas to innovate the dice world (if that is even possible).
We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
i really dont think theres much more room for improvement on dice sites, one can only get so creative... pretty sure people are flat out of ideas at this point. We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
Yes I totally agree with you, I mean we roll a dice. The only idea I can come up with is to try to adapt the parlay system for dice, meaning that you would have to win some amount of rolls in a row to actually keep your winnings (but with a multiplier of course, just like a parlay bet). I don't play dice very often so maybe that already exists lol
Anyway, competition is good, so I say keep them coming, I don't see any problem with that.
every one wants just copy and paste profits.
Not everyone, some new site is building the site properly and not just thinking of getting quick profit. Give some respect to it and dont generalize everything like you know it better.
i think one of the major factors is moneypot
Correct , plus dan's free dice script and now most people can get their own dice site
launching a moneypot app is pretty much guaranteed profit for the owner as well, as owners take a percentage of the profits.
Not correct unless you use dan's script and host it at github which needs almost free for everything then yeah you will get a slight profit .If you are making your own site which cost you quite some and some hosting fee then it needs months to just get it back with quite a decent volume
To be honest, if you worry that much why don't you create thread for ideas to innovate the dice world (if that is even possible).
We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
i really dont think theres much more room for improvement on dice sites, one can only get so creative... pretty sure people are flat out of ideas at this point. We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
To be honest, if you worry that much why don't you create thread for ideas to innovate the dice world (if that is even possible).
We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
We all want something fresh and new of course, but it does not make any sense to blame people for trying to explore a business opportunity.
Yes they are all the same, but that will also increase competition and make the house edge as low as it can be, which is good for us, so they are actually making us a favor.
is already because the dice sctypt have a very low cost, more invest 100/200 $ and start a dice site only for earn , without new idea for create interessant dice site
this is basically because everybody is looking to earn money through bitcoin, and the best way is to create a gambling site that people would "Always" lose.
and what is better than dice?
in dice you will always lose, and your loss is the websites gain. but the problem is, the ones who create the websites don't know the first thing about anything, so they google a free or cheep script, copy it and dream that they can get rich by doing it.
and what is better than dice?
in dice you will always lose, and your loss is the websites gain. but the problem is, the ones who create the websites don't know the first thing about anything, so they google a free or cheep script, copy it and dream that they can get rich by doing it.
Since dite site is quite simple and if you have enough fund, you can buy some script and work with your own to manage the site.
But as we can see even many dice site popping up doesn't mean it can make a profit easily because gaining the gambler's trust is quite difficult
But as we can see even many dice site popping up doesn't mean it can make a profit easily because gaining the gambler's trust is quite difficult
It is not that easy, although you spend a lot to build some good site, if there is only some people playing and no big whale come in to your site you wont make a comeback. And for now they always competing about how to attract big whale to play into their site. So create a dice is easy but the way to hold it that is the problem
That's my boy!
I agree, many people think create dice sites are the way to earn money faster and easily.
But they are didn't know that how to attract players to stay playing there.
It's bullshit if you had a super very perfect dice site but there is noone playing.
At the end someone created an agario website for bitcoin, just let creativity go and you will find it.
Since dite site is quite simple and if you have enough fund, you can buy some script and work with your own to manage the site.
But as we can see even many dice site popping up doesn't mean it can make a profit easily because gaining the gambler's trust is quite difficult
But as we can see even many dice site popping up doesn't mean it can make a profit easily because gaining the gambler's trust is quite difficult
It is not that easy, although you spend a lot to build some good site, if there is only some people playing and no big whale come in to your site you wont make a comeback. And for now they always competing about how to attract big whale to play into their site. So create a dice is easy but the way to hold it that is the problem
soooo agree with you mate
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
Yes as of now dice is very popular in gambling and every one waiting for some one to come out with new innovation so that they can easily copy the concept after it success. It means people do not want to take risk in investing some thing new they just want to follow the trend.
soooo agree with you mate
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
Why dont you become a pioneer then and make something new? It will be for all our benefit or? I dont see what the agro is. Just ignore them if they irritate you that much. It is a free market and competition is healthy for customers. You get plenty more options/more giveaways etc. The new guys make the more established sites work harder at bern better to keep their customers.
I will love to enter this market, can somebody please show me how?
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
To simply put, this kind of business/ gambling site is making money and a lot of people is seeing that. In return they see an opportunity to do the same and get the piece of the pie of the gambling world and make themselves rich in return. But these new popping sites needs to put some innovations that will benefit all.
soooo agree with you mate
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
gambling is full of dice sites noone is making something new ..
btc gambling needs something new and innovative.. not just dice dice dice dice.
regards.
-Katerniko1
A business opportunity as opened and people are taking advantage of it, eventually the market will get saturated and we will see who stays with the door open.
Two years ago there there were lots of "IPOs" in the Securities section and then lots of "ICOs" in the Altcoins section.
If there's money to be made people will go for it.
Two years ago there there were lots of "IPOs" in the Securities section and then lots of "ICOs" in the Altcoins section.
If there's money to be made people will go for it.
quiet simple, dice is one of the most popular bitcoin gambling sites.
people take an advantage, opportunity in this bitcoin gambling business really promising.
as so many people playing bitcoin as a game and the dice realize it.
I don't see any problem with it. They are free to take a shot and try to make some money.
Mostly will probably see their time wasted, since they will have nothing new to offer and people will simple not go there, and will just use their faucet or something like that. But seeing all those new dice sites dont bother me a bit.
Mostly will probably see their time wasted, since they will have nothing new to offer and people will simple not go there, and will just use their faucet or something like that. But seeing all those new dice sites dont bother me a bit.
A business opportunity as opened and people are taking advantage of it, eventually the market will get saturated and we will see who stays with the door open.
Two years ago there there were lots of "IPOs" in the Securities section and then lots of "ICOs" in the Altcoins section.
If there's money to be made people will go for it.
Two years ago there there were lots of "IPOs" in the Securities section and then lots of "ICOs" in the Altcoins section.
If there's money to be made people will go for it.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
Its a free market innit? The house always wins eventually even @ 1%. so far as you have thertt bankroll to ride the losing runs. cant blame anyone who realises this no matter how late they are entering the game. It beats rolling then losing or? Goodluck to anyone that can attract the traffic.
well to be honest if you want to open a gambling site then dice is the only choice , it's the most popular game which is BTC based
we all saw the fail of the most btc poker sites which makes opening a new room is very hard
so technically dice sites is the monster of btc gambling , but hopefully as you said these new sites will start to offer something new in the feature
we all saw the fail of the most btc poker sites which makes opening a new room is very hard
so technically dice sites is the monster of btc gambling , but hopefully as you said these new sites will start to offer something new in the feature
Since dite site is quite simple and if you have enough fund, you can buy some script and work with your own to manage the site.
But as we can see even many dice site popping up doesn't mean it can make a profit easily because gaining the gambler's trust is quite difficult
But as we can see even many dice site popping up doesn't mean it can make a profit easily because gaining the gambler's trust is quite difficult
They say more competition is better for business
i totally agree with that but i don't see any competition. copying the same script over and over and just giving it a new name would not create any sort of competition.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
Yes I completely agree with you. There are just way too many of them at the moment and they are so saturated that people just get bored.
Needs to be more bitcoin gambling with unit games.
We need more games where you can get an edge like, i see someone finally opened up agar for bitcoins, hope it becomes popular.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
Yes I completely agree with you. There are just way too many of them at the moment and they are so saturated that people just get bored.
Needs to be more bitcoin gambling with unit games.
every one wants just copy and paste profits.
Not everyone, some new site is building the site properly and not just thinking of getting quick profit. Give some respect to it and dont generalize everything like you know it better.
i think one of the major factors is moneypot
Correct , plus dan's free dice script and now most people can get their own dice site
launching a moneypot app is pretty much guaranteed profit for the owner as well, as owners take a percentage of the profits.
Not correct unless you use dan's script and host it at github which needs almost free for everything then yeah you will get a slight profit .If you are making your own site which cost you quite some and some hosting fee then it needs months to just get it back with quite a decent volume
Many dice sites have heard of Primedice success and are aiming to be as big as them in future.
Now the dice gambling market has become saturated and some has lowered their house edge to attract more people to play.
Now the dice gambling market has become saturated and some has lowered their house edge to attract more people to play.
Its easy to maintain a simple DICE site, its easy to create a script, and in the end its profitable. Many of the new sites I believe are just looking for small profits. Even if you only have 10-20 players the profit margins are still there to atleast make it worth your while to run the site.
What you said is correct they are simple to maintain but the main reason is people mentality. If any one started making some profit from one business means immediately so many other people will start same thing with just adding some changes to it and quickly want to earn some finally. But in reality they are killing or saturating that market itself. No one want to think differently and come up with their own business model every one wants just copy and paste profits.
It's human tendency to follow business ideas which have proved to be successful and I think most of these are made by people who have lost money in some dice sites and they either hire a few people or make one themselves if they're capable of making one and they do it because they see people losing a lot of money in already established dice sites but they forget that it is not easy to build up reputation and trust and it takes a lot of time, effort and funds to keep people interested and coming back to the site and which is why you will see very few of them survive and rest go down pretty quickly.
But that being said there's always room for improvement, some sites have made their place among the other successful running ones and it all comes down to how persistent and motivated you are to compete and come on top.
But that being said there's always room for improvement, some sites have made their place among the other successful running ones and it all comes down to how persistent and motivated you are to compete and come on top.
Its easy to maintain a simple DICE site, its easy to create a script, and in the end its profitable. Many of the new sites I believe are just looking for small profits. Even if you only have 10-20 players the profit margins are still there to atleast make it worth your while to run the site.
Let's take as example that website that looks like a command line, that is innovative. seriously, must be creative to have success.
yes, this is more innovative and nice, also the magicaldice is not bad have a nice graphic design, start with more promotion and giveaway. When i see new dice, with newbie user, i don't play already a faucet
They say more competition is better for business
People create more of these kind of "sites" when they see that the others before the new already boomed in just a minimal amount of time. They think that if they create another dice site and if they can provide somethig which the other dice sites can provide then they will be the ones who will benifit from all the peoples bet in their site.
It's just like why people keeps creating more ponzi/hyip after another. If people likes playing those kid of game then maybe they will love another one.
Also they are right, the privilage to create a dice site with a minimal effort in moneypot ensures owners of the profits that they can get.
It's just like why people keeps creating more ponzi/hyip after another. If people likes playing those kid of game then maybe they will love another one.
Also they are right, the privilage to create a dice site with a minimal effort in moneypot ensures owners of the profits that they can get.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
i think one of the major factors is moneypot, which pretty much enables people to launch a gambling website without having any bankroll. in addition, launching a moneypot app is pretty much guaranteed profit for the owner as well, as owners take a percentage of the profits. That's the reason behind those sites imo as well.. Moneypot enables users to initiate a site like that with ease and since the backbone is there it requires minimal effort.
People create a business (it's irrelevent if it's a dice site) because they obviously believe it'll be financially beneficial to them. They think it's a good way of making a lot of money.
I don't know why it bothers or annoys you, anybody who goes out on their own & creates their own business gets my respect. Providing it's a fairly run site good luck to them.
I don't know why it bothers or annoys you, anybody who goes out on their own & creates their own business gets my respect. Providing it's a fairly run site good luck to them.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
Why you matter? Seriously. Just don't use them if you don't like it. But complaining will not hinder new ones popping up.Stay wih the old and known or ignore them all.
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
i think one of the major factors is moneypot, which pretty much enables people to launch a gambling website without having any bankroll. in addition, launching a moneypot app is pretty much guaranteed profit for the owner as well, as owners take a percentage of the profits.
Let's take as example that website that looks like a command line, that is innovative. seriously, must be creative to have success.
more peolpe "create" a "new" dice because see another create and more people start play, without a decent bankroll and in some cases without provably fair
Actually you gave the answer to your own question in your post.
Good point here, but this will just be a bait to all the signature spammers to post nearly the same things as you or I have written.
As for people actually seeing this thread and deciding that making another dumb dice site will not be worth is, is near to zero, even if they do see this thread, they will be too greedy,ignorant or "macho" to not make a new dice site.
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I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires
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and thats not the case at all
I don't think most new nice site makers will even bother to think about that part, they just think "Oh cause my site will have a higher faucet then others"(coinwon.nl) "I have a awesome domain name, and name for my site"(crimedice.com), "its different because its me who is making it"(arrogant guys).Good point here, but this will just be a bait to all the signature spammers to post nearly the same things as you or I have written.
As for people actually seeing this thread and deciding that making another dumb dice site will not be worth is, is near to zero, even if they do see this thread, they will be too greedy,ignorant or "macho" to not make a new dice site.
dice sites of btc like any other game its 1% to the house for sure i mean if a volume of 1BTC per day comes there they get 0.01 = 2 dollars or 3 dollars per day on each BTC gambled i mean you dont even need a pub or advertising into the banners of the site ot pays it self and it can get to primedice budget like 127 BTC per day and its like 1BTC per day profit
Seriously guys enough is enough. If youre gonna create the same old shit without introducing anything new, then stop yourselves now. I think too many of you feel like if you create a dice site youll just be instant millionaires and thats not the case at all. First of all most new sites have a shitty max win. What makes you think you can drag players away from sites like PD when you can win a whole .01-1btc? PD has a max win of 20-40btc. Secondly if youre using the same old shitty scripts youre just asking for your hotwallet to be drained like countless others sites have posted. Just stop it already. Make something fresh and new and HAVE A DAMN BANKROLL or go away
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