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The law of the universe!
October 24, 2013, 08:19:33 AM
#32
i mine hoping that BTC will be worth $200 one day.

oh wait, thats today! Grin Grin Grin

...how about $300?

How about 2k?  Grin Grin
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October 24, 2013, 07:30:53 AM
#31
No gold or silver seams where I live so I have to mine something

Just dig it under your house, who knows you might found something valuable Smiley
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ASIC Wannabe
October 23, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
#30
i mine hoping that BTC will be worth $200 one day.

oh wait, thats today! Grin Grin Grin

...how about $300?
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October 23, 2013, 09:59:39 AM
#29
Mining helps me keep the voices in my head to a minimum.  As long as I mine, THEY will leave me alone.

You need some doctor Smiley
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October 22, 2013, 08:10:10 AM
#28
It's a hobby that helps keeps my technical skills sharp. That, and I love the concept of Bitcoin.

This.  100% this.
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October 22, 2013, 07:54:37 AM
#27
People who buy miners with massive amount of gH/s is hoping to hit the big motherload, and/or to support the network.
I just like the blicking LED on the block erupter. ^^

Do people really care about supporting the network? I think most people only care about more money Smiley
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October 21, 2013, 03:57:33 PM
#26
People who buy miners with massive amount of gH/s is hoping to hit the big motherload, and/or to support the network.
I just like the blicking LED on the block erupter. ^^
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October 21, 2013, 10:03:18 AM
#25
cause I'm greedy Smiley (on a serious note, I'm actually losing money on mining, I will never recoup the investment...)

Im in the same boat, who knows we would lose money on mining like few months back...
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bitcoin hodler
October 21, 2013, 08:06:39 AM
#24
cause I'm greedy Smiley (on a serious note, I'm actually losing money on mining, I will never recoup the investment...)
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October 21, 2013, 08:02:26 AM
#23
Profit, no body would wanna buy ASIC that can only mine Crypto and not want to profit from it right?
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October 21, 2013, 07:59:00 AM
#22
i think miners are doing it for hobby/network securing
investors are moving on from mining (at least at this time) to shares and things like that.
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October 21, 2013, 07:09:30 AM
#21
That didn't work for me, it just started the voices.

MUST CHECK MINER
MUST CHECK MINER
MUST CHECK MINER
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October 20, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
#20
Mining helps me keep the voices in my head to a minimum.  As long as I mine, THEY will leave me alone.
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October 20, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
#19
No gold or silver seams where I live so I have to mine something
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Christian Antkow
October 20, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
#18
 It's a hobby that helps keeps my technical skills sharp. That, and I love the concept of Bitcoin.
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October 20, 2013, 02:51:39 AM
#17
Please don't take into consideration of future BTC price. You might as well just buy BTC if you are using that as a base..
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HoneybadgerOfMoney.com Weed4bitcoin.com
October 19, 2013, 11:38:41 PM
#16
I am not a miner myself. However, as far as I understand from the charts, mining BTC has not been profitable the last months. Actuall the profit margin is abt -500%! This means the cost is 5 times the profit. I have previously believed that the mining cost would align itself close to the bitcoin price, due to people start mining when profit is good, and leaving it when its negative. Apparently this is not the case - or? Would like to be enlightened on this matter (I find it very interesting).

blockchains stats work out to to posit each gigahash is approximately 600W well we all know that lately asic vendors push <1 watt per gigahash.  Your figure is incorrect.
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October 19, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
#15
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October 19, 2013, 04:17:22 PM
#14
I mine because the value can exponentially growth
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October 19, 2013, 10:43:26 AM
#13
I am not a miner myself. However, as far as I understand from the charts, mining BTC has not been profitable the last months. Actuall the profit margin is abt -500%! This means the cost is 5 times the profit. I have previously believed that the mining cost would align itself close to the bitcoin price, due to people start mining when profit is good, and leaving it when its negative. Apparently this is not the case - or? Would like to be enlightened on this matter (I find it very interesting).

The TL;DR is pre-order.  The feedback loop you've described depends on miners being able to calculate overall profitability.  With exponential difficulty rise, combined with having to order your gear at least three months in advance, it's virtually impossible.  For KNC, a company that delivered gear above spec hashrate-wise, and (for my example) within weeks of their stated deadline, this goofy gif  explains it quicker than i could Cheesy:



The miners were pre-ordered *all the way at the left side of the gif*, at ~200 network speed.
They started hashing *all the way at the right side of the gif*, when network speed was over 2,000,00.  Exactly three months.  Ouch.
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October 19, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
#12
I received my Jupiter on the 10th October.  If difficulty increases by 35% each time then:

If $ / BTC = 130 I will break even on 18th January (3 months).  Last profitable day 12th May.  Net ROI $661.
If $ / BTC = 150 I will break even on 15th December (2 months).  Last profitable day 12th May.  Net ROI $1,928.
If $ / BTC = 180 I will break even on 25th November (1.5 months).  Last profitable day 26th May.  Net ROI $3,832.

If difficulty increases by 45% each time then:

If $ / BTC = 130 I will make a loss of $450.
If $ / BTC = 150 I will break even on 1st January (2.75 months).  Last profitable day 1st April.  Net ROI $649.
If $ / BTC = 180 I will break even on 29th November (1.5 months).  Last profitable day 14th April.  Net ROI $2,284.

Net figures include cost of hardware, shipping and electricity.

Why am in mining?  It looks like it'll be profitable, even if it's not, it's an interesting project.
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October 18, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
#11
Make contributions for the development of BTC.
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October 15, 2013, 08:20:09 AM
#10
To earn profit, I mined using middlecoin so my profit is higher then you mine BTC directly Smiley
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October 13, 2013, 08:00:03 PM
#9
5 million dollars are wasted each day in electricity

Well, that's your choice. You must be a rich kid or something.
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October 13, 2013, 03:47:41 PM
#8
5 million dollars are wasted each day in electricity
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October 13, 2013, 09:34:37 AM
#7
I am not a miner myself. However, as far as I understand from the charts, mining BTC has not been profitable the last months. Actuall the profit margin is abt -500%! This means the cost is 5 times the profit. I have previously believed that the mining cost would align itself close to the bitcoin price, due to people start mining when profit is good, and leaving it when its negative. Apparently this is not the case - or? Would like to be enlightened on this matter (I find it very interesting).

Even a USB eruptor will be better off. Just stop wasting your electricity please Smiley
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Firing it up
October 13, 2013, 09:15:37 AM
#6
Simply as thinking the selling cost is higher than mining cost. I personally think the selling prince is 35% higher than searching cost. However, according to the hashmining.com's speeches, 200% (120USD/ 60USD) at least. Which makes me to mine  in order to reduce the problem.

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October 13, 2013, 07:49:19 AM
#5


Well, don't mine it with GPU as its too energy consuming, mine it with ASIC Smiley

How much more profitable is the ASIC? Any references on this?
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Well, profitable wise, ASIC is 100x much better then GPU (Just google bitcoin ASIC and you will get all the information you want)

But I still suggesting not buying ASIC cause the difficulty rises too fast and you won't ROI.
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October 13, 2013, 07:17:12 AM
#4


Well, don't mine it with GPU as its too energy consuming, mine it with ASIC Smiley
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How much more profitable is the ASIC? Any references on this?
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October 13, 2013, 06:57:49 AM
#3
I am not a miner myself. However, as far as I understand from the charts, mining BTC has not been profitable the last months. Actuall the profit margin is abt -500%! This means the cost is 5 times the profit. I have previously believed that the mining cost would align itself close to the bitcoin price, due to people start mining when profit is good, and leaving it when its negative. Apparently this is not the case - or? Would like to be enlightened on this matter (I find it very interesting).

Well, don't mine it with GPU as its too energy consuming, mine it with ASIC Smiley
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October 13, 2013, 06:51:19 AM
#2
Mine to protect the decentralized network! You get the emotional value of improving the world. The BTC reward is just a nice bonus Smiley
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October 13, 2013, 06:22:55 AM
#1
I am not a miner myself. However, as far as I understand from the charts, mining BTC has not been profitable the last months. Actuall the profit margin is abt -500%! This means the cost is 5 times the profit. I have previously believed that the mining cost would align itself close to the bitcoin price, due to people start mining when profit is good, and leaving it when its negative. Apparently this is not the case - or? Would like to be enlightened on this matter (I find it very interesting).
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