Topic: Why did Macron arrest Eric Drouet (Read 305 times)
Eric Drouet,leader of yellow vest[Gilet jaunes] movement,was arrested by French police for organizing central paris protest without declaring it during a visit by French Foreign Minister Jane-Yves Drian as abuse of power.
Last night, Drouet published an open letter addressed to Macron :
Basically, he says that the movement will intensify, that the coming weeks are gonna be tough for the country, that the GJs will find new ways to get their message heard.
He asks Macron to listen to the people, he says he's the one who has the power to stop the violence but if he keeps refusing to listen, the people will take back what's theirs, the power.
He ends the letter by asking Macron to meet the Gilets Jaunes (he hasn't done it yet, he sent others to represent him).
Of course, all the media here are talking about threats. Personally, I think Drouet is just saying that the one in charge (the President) is the one who can stop this nonsense. So why not do it ?
Basically, he says that the movement will intensify, that the coming weeks are gonna be tough for the country, that the GJs will find new ways to get their message heard.
He asks Macron to listen to the people, he says he's the one who has the power to stop the violence but if he keeps refusing to listen, the people will take back what's theirs, the power.
He ends the letter by asking Macron to meet the Gilets Jaunes (he hasn't done it yet, he sent others to represent him).
Of course, all the media here are talking about threats. Personally, I think Drouet is just saying that the one in charge (the President) is the one who can stop this nonsense. So why not do it ?
He thinks he's above the law.
When the scandal came out, his exact words were "Come and get me !"
Who says that ? Seriously !
It's a shame most of you don't speak French because there are a lot of videos of him showing contempt for the people. His personality is one of the reasons why people are in so much anger right now, those protests could have happened years ago but his attitude has been the trigger.
When the scandal came out, his exact words were "Come and get me !"
Who says that ? Seriously !
It's a shame most of you don't speak French because there are a lot of videos of him showing contempt for the people. His personality is one of the reasons why people are in so much anger right now, those protests could have happened years ago but his attitude has been the trigger.
He is above the law.
French president can't be put in trial anyway.
But yeah he really got a LouisXIV personalitty standing high telling the people they're dumb fuckers who never work. Anyone speaking French can watch a compilation of the worst he said and it's... Wahou...
Guillotine is the only way for me.
France is a monarchy and Macron is a king.
He has such a high opinion of himself you wouldn't believe.
The arrest of Drouet ? In France, we would say it's just adding oil onto fire. But I actually think he doesn't care about the protests, he thinks he's way above that. You can see it in the decisions he takes, one step forward (probably because someone told him he should do something to calm the public), two steps backwards (because he really doesn't give a f...).
In France, there is what we call "l'Affaire Benalla" right now, a real mess that could cause Macron lots of problems but he doesn't care !! He thinks he's above the law.
When the scandal came out, his exact words were "Come and get me !"
Who says that ? Seriously !
It's a shame most of you don't speak French because there are a lot of videos of him showing contempt for the people. His personality is one of the reasons why people are in so much anger right now, those protests could have happened years ago but his attitude has been the trigger.
He has such a high opinion of himself you wouldn't believe.
The arrest of Drouet ? In France, we would say it's just adding oil onto fire. But I actually think he doesn't care about the protests, he thinks he's way above that. You can see it in the decisions he takes, one step forward (probably because someone told him he should do something to calm the public), two steps backwards (because he really doesn't give a f...).
In France, there is what we call "l'Affaire Benalla" right now, a real mess that could cause Macron lots of problems but he doesn't care !! He thinks he's above the law.
When the scandal came out, his exact words were "Come and get me !"
Who says that ? Seriously !
It's a shame most of you don't speak French because there are a lot of videos of him showing contempt for the people. His personality is one of the reasons why people are in so much anger right now, those protests could have happened years ago but his attitude has been the trigger.
Not going to get into a legal debate with you because you don't have any idea what you are talking about, but you don't have any idea what you are talking about. I was hoping you would maybe do some reading but I can see your reply before I even finished editing tells me you didn't even read the wiki blurb.
Maybe because I know what Common law is I just didn't know the English word for it?
But no you're right, it's probably just because I'm a dumbass.
That's why I took the time to link it, so you could figure out the meaning in your native language, but you still didn't bother to read it. At least we are on the same page now though eh?
Not going to get into a legal debate with you because you don't have any idea what you are talking about, but you don't have any idea what you are talking about. I was hoping you would maybe do some reading but I can see your reply before I even finished editing tells me you didn't even read the wiki blurb.
Maybe because I know what Common law is I just didn't know the English word for it?
But no you're right, it's probably just because I'm a dumbass.
Aaaaaaaaaah ok I get it. We call it "jurisprudence".
We do tend to use it but falls under the strength of the law.
In short legal French works this way in order of importance in a trial:
-Word of the President
-International treaties
-National law
-Jurisprudence/Common law
-Judge appreciation
And it seems really weird for me to see the Common law being above the rest xD
Not going to get into a legal debate with you because you don't have any idea what you are talking about, but you don't have any idea what you are talking about. I was hoping you would maybe do some reading but I can see your reply before I even finished editing tells me you didn't even read the wiki blurb.
Aaaaaaaaaah ok I get it. We call it "jurisprudence".
We do tend to use it but falls under the strength of the law.
In short legal French works this way in order of importance in a trial:
-Word of the President
-International treaties
-National law
-Jurisprudence/Common law
-Judge appreciation
And it seems really weird for me to see the Common law being above the rest xD
If I remember right France does not operate under common law, so essentially the law there is the law of code, and they can simply declare you in violation at any time with little to no recourse. That is why places like the USA, one of the last remaining governments to still recognize common law are so important.
I don't know what's the common law you're talking about.
You're largely exagerating the simplicity with which any citizen can be arrested and jailed (not an accusation, I don't even know what your law system is so you got every right to not know the French one perfectly) because normally everything is governed by the separation of the three powers.
French revolution ensured equality between citizens by putting each of the three powers (executive, legistalive and justice) in three separate institution.
In 1958 war hero Charles de Gaulle reunited executive and legislative in the hands of the president.
In 2016, French president took over Justice in an horribly calm and silent way.
Today French president has the 3 powers. Though 99% of the time justice is completely independant and as fair as it can be, the president can at will arrest and condemn anyone. He can also free any prisoner at will and clear him/her of all his previous crimes.
That's how powerful and dictatorial French president is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law
Under Napoleonic code the French legal system effectively operates under a standard of guilty until proven innocent.
If I remember right France does not operate under common law, so essentially the law there is the law of code, and they can simply declare you in violation at any time with little to no recourse. That is why places like the USA, one of the last remaining governments to still recognize common law are so important.
I don't know what's the common law you're talking about.
You're largely exagerating the simplicity with which any citizen can be arrested and jailed (not an accusation, I don't even know what your law system is so you got every right to not know the French one perfectly) because normally everything is governed by the separation of the three powers.
French revolution ensured equality between citizens by putting each of the three powers (executive, legistalive and justice) in three separate institution.
In 1958 war hero Charles de Gaulle reunited executive and legislative in the hands of the president.
In 2016, French president took over Justice in an horribly calm and silent way.
Today French president has the 3 powers. Though 99% of the time justice is completely independant and as fair as it can be, the president can at will arrest and condemn anyone. He can also free any prisoner at will and clear him/her of all his previous crimes.
That's how powerful and dictatorial French president is.
Wait, is the executive authority of the President in France that far-reaching to the point that they can literally arrest people on their own command? That can't be true. (at least I hope so)
Yes.
France is basically a dictatorship now.
President can, at will, declare war, engage military forces, pass any law he wants without referring to anyone, arrest and condemn anyone without a fair trial.
That's French democracy for you.
Still can't believe that the President can, at will, arrest people. Any chance you could find a source on that one -- I hope that you can't find one though so I know that France isn't this horrible country.
If you can find one, I've lost all hope in France. (Don't know if I had any before, but that's beside the point)
If I remember right France does not operate under common law, so essentially the law there is the law of code, and they can simply declare you in violation at any time with little to no recourse. That is why places like the USA, one of the last remaining governments to still recognize common law are so important.
Wait, is the executive authority of the President in France that far-reaching to the point that they can literally arrest people on their own command? That can't be true. (at least I hope so)
Yes.
France is basically a dictatorship now.
President can, at will, declare war, engage military forces, pass any law he wants without referring to anyone, arrest and condemn anyone without a fair trial.
That's French democracy for you.
Still can't believe that the President can, at will, arrest people. Any chance you could find a source on that one -- I hope that you can't find one though so I know that France isn't this horrible country.
If you can find one, I've lost all hope in France. (Don't know if I had any before, but that's beside the point)
Macron first of his name (may the god bless him) is actually believing in his story in my opinion. I think he genuily thinks EU is the solution, complete deregulation and market freedom is good, privatisation is the way to go, growth is the way to fight unemployment...
If you think Macron or the EU really want or represent any of these things than you are quite a but more stupid than he is.
One result of this could be the further erosion of the decaying European Union. If the EU collapses, then it will give the bankers a chance to lose the mountain of bad debt that they hold. Do you think this is part of the plan?
I'd say you understimate the stupidity and ego of our grand leader.
Macron first of his name (may the god bless him) is actually believing in his story in my opinion. I think he genuily thinks EU is the solution, complete deregulation and market freedom is good, privatisation is the way to go, growth is the way to fight unemployment...
And he's very very upset that the people are too stupid to see how his vision of the country is the only way to go. He's vexed and angry at the commoners who dare oppose him.
Really I think you give him too much credit for playing 4d chess. Otherwise he wouldn't talk the way he talks. He's beyond arrogant in his speeches and the only result can be people being more and more aggressive toward him.
Wait, is the executive authority of the President in France that far-reaching to the point that they can literally arrest people on their own command? That can't be true. (at least I hope so)
Yes.
France is basically a dictatorship now.
President can, at will, declare war, engage military forces, pass any law he wants without referring to anyone, arrest and condemn anyone without a fair trial.
That's French democracy for you.
Do you think this is part of the plan?
Maybe, maybe not. Trying to guess what this politicians are up to isn't something am that good at but I know arresting Éric Drouet at this time was just pouring oil on a dying fire. It's was just an act of abuse of the executive power. It got to my attention after I saw the tweet from Jean-Luc Mélenchon but lets not forget Éric Drouet was arrested previously for carrying a prohibited category D weapon to an unauthorised protest and the one he was going to was also an unauthorised one so maybe the police got some intel. Lets see how it plays out this time.
Wait, is the executive authority of the President in France that far-reaching to the point that they can literally arrest people on their own command? That can't be true. (at least I hope so)
I agree with you thought, attempting to guess the 4d chess that politicians and officials are toying with in their head is literally impossible.
Yep. Looks like the protest is over right? xD
How sad you know so little about the happenings in your own nation.
How sad you know so little about the happenings in your own nation.
You're delusional. Never said the protest is over, said it was dying. And it is.
Last Saturday we didn't even reach the 50k members while a month ago we were at 135k. Reaching peak value at 250k at the begining of the protests.
How is 50k compared to 250k not a dying movement?
Same goes with support of the population that goes down everyweek, from an overwhelming 80% to a still impressive 55%. How is that not a dying movement?
And where did you get those numbers from? Did you go out and count? Oh the TV... I am sure the TV is never wrong...
If it was dying why do they need to basically start arresting anyone protesting to stop it xD
You believe anyone in a position of "authority" no matter what they tell you.
Yep. Looks like the protest is over right? xD
How sad you know so little about the happenings in your own nation.
How sad you know so little about the happenings in your own nation.
You're delusional. Never said the protest is over, said it was dying. And it is.
Last Saturday we didn't even reach the 50k members while a month ago we were at 135k. Reaching peak value at 250k at the begining of the protests.
How is 50k compared to 250k not a dying movement?
Same goes with support of the population that goes down everyweek, from an overwhelming 80% to a still impressive 55%. How is that not a dying movement?
You keep believing your glowing idiot box until Macron is ripped right out of his holiday chalet and ripped apart by a mob.
Sure.
Again, you say that while not living in France because you know better I guess.
The fact that violences are decreasing, number of protestors are decreasing, support of the movement inside the population is decreasing, are not at all the sign that the movement is dying and that Macron has already won.
Please share with us the infinite wisdom that allow you to know for a fact that contrary to all evidences, in fact, French people aren't bending the knees once again and are going to take the dictator down.
I was there, I was in the protests, I was one of those who wanted to take the guillotine out again to get rid of him. Nobody wants that, most of the people just want a peaceful protest.
Yep. Looks like the protest is over right? xD
How sad you know so little about the happenings in your own nation.
I do know better. Being in France doesn't help you if you are brain dead and have your head buried in the sand. You don't have the slightest clue what is going on right now.
Funny how you ask for facts but only provide opinions.
You mean like this opinion?
https://twitter.com/RevolteUn/status/1078604242859028480/photo/1
I do know better. Being in France doesn't help you if you are brain dead and have your head buried in the sand. You don't have the slightest clue what is going on right now.
Funny how you ask for facts but only provide opinions.
Anyway back to the subject, look at the trials of the yellow vest protests on one hand and of the policemen on the others.
Macron appoints directly the judges and the result is completely crazy. Protestors are getting 6 months jailtime for only being there (even if they have no weapon and have been just arrested in the city) because they're guilty of "gathering with ill intent" while the Toulon's komissar gets the "Légion d'Honneur" medal while beating the hell out of a restrained protestor against the wall. Beating him so much other policemen are forced to stop him.
Well the judged simply dismissed the case because of "proportionate force use"
Yeah right
You keep believing your glowing idiot box until Macron is ripped right out of his holiday chalet and ripped apart by a mob.
Sure.
Again, you say that while not living in France because you know better I guess.
The fact that violences are decreasing, number of protestors are decreasing, support of the movement inside the population is decreasing, are not at all the sign that the movement is dying and that Macron has already won.
Please share with us the infinite wisdom that allow you to know for a fact that contrary to all evidences, in fact, French people aren't bending the knees once again and are going to take the dictator down.
I was there, I was in the protests, I was one of those who wanted to take the guillotine out again to get rid of him. Nobody wants that, most of the people just want a peaceful protest.
I do know better. Being in France doesn't help you if you are brain dead and have your head buried in the sand. You don't have the slightest clue what is going on right now.
You keep believing your glowing idiot box until Macron is ripped right out of his holiday chalet and ripped apart by a mob.
Sure.
Again, you say that while not living in France because you know better I guess.
The fact that violences are decreasing, number of protestors are decreasing, support of the movement inside the population is decreasing, are not at all the sign that the movement is dying and that Macron has already won.
Please share with us the infinite wisdom that allow you to know for a fact that contrary to all evidences, in fact, French people aren't bending the knees once again and are going to take the dictator down.
I was there, I was in the protests, I was one of those who wanted to take the guillotine out again to get rid of him. Nobody wants that, most of the people just want a peaceful protest.
Macron doesn't give a damn and he'd be right to.
What can happen? Yellow vest movement is dead and he's not afraid of anything. People from everywhere are screaming "no violence" and most of the violent protestors have been arrested already. When someone acts like the boxer champion who took out 4 policemen alone, everyone is yelling "he shouldn't be violent", "violence isn't the answer".
Well guess what dipshit? If violence isn't the answer and you want no violence then government has nothing to fear.
Moreover France has been a dictatorship since 2016 with the end of the separation of the 3 powers, Macron can arrests whoever he wants without any reason and send him to 10 years jails without having to justify himself. And he will, what does he has to lose?
Stop thinking about France as a democracy where the leader has to play smart. France is an elective dictatorship where the leader does whatever he wants for 5 years without risking anything.
Our ancestors where revolutionnaries but today French are just sheeps. Let them die already.
What can happen? Yellow vest movement is dead and he's not afraid of anything. People from everywhere are screaming "no violence" and most of the violent protestors have been arrested already. When someone acts like the boxer champion who took out 4 policemen alone, everyone is yelling "he shouldn't be violent", "violence isn't the answer".
Well guess what dipshit? If violence isn't the answer and you want no violence then government has nothing to fear.
Moreover France has been a dictatorship since 2016 with the end of the separation of the 3 powers, Macron can arrests whoever he wants without any reason and send him to 10 years jails without having to justify himself. And he will, what does he has to lose?
Stop thinking about France as a democracy where the leader has to play smart. France is an elective dictatorship where the leader does whatever he wants for 5 years without risking anything.
Our ancestors where revolutionnaries but today French are just sheeps. Let them die already.
You keep believing your glowing idiot box until Macron is ripped right out of his holiday chalet and ripped apart by a mob.
Macron doesn't give a damn and he'd be right to.
What can happen? Yellow vest movement is dead and he's not afraid of anything. People from everywhere are screaming "no violence" and most of the violent protestors have been arrested already. When someone acts like the boxer champion who took out 4 policemen alone, everyone is yelling "he shouldn't be violent", "violence isn't the answer".
Well guess what dipshit? If violence isn't the answer and you want no violence then government has nothing to fear.
Moreover France has been a dictatorship since 2016 with the end of the separation of the 3 powers, Macron can arrests whoever he wants without any reason and send him to 10 years jails without having to justify himself. And he will, what does he has to lose?
Stop thinking about France as a democracy where the leader has to play smart. France is an elective dictatorship where the leader does whatever he wants for 5 years without risking anything.
Our ancestors where revolutionnaries but today French are just sheeps. Let them die already.
What can happen? Yellow vest movement is dead and he's not afraid of anything. People from everywhere are screaming "no violence" and most of the violent protestors have been arrested already. When someone acts like the boxer champion who took out 4 policemen alone, everyone is yelling "he shouldn't be violent", "violence isn't the answer".
Well guess what dipshit? If violence isn't the answer and you want no violence then government has nothing to fear.
Moreover France has been a dictatorship since 2016 with the end of the separation of the 3 powers, Macron can arrests whoever he wants without any reason and send him to 10 years jails without having to justify himself. And he will, what does he has to lose?
Stop thinking about France as a democracy where the leader has to play smart. France is an elective dictatorship where the leader does whatever he wants for 5 years without risking anything.
Our ancestors where revolutionnaries but today French are just sheeps. Let them die already.
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Do you think this is part of the plan?
Maybe, maybe not. Trying to guess what this politicians are up to isn't something am that good at but I know arresting Éric Drouet at this time was just pouring oil on a dying fire. It's was just an act of abuse of the executive power. It got to my attention after I saw the tweet from Jean-Luc Mélenchon but lets not forget Éric Drouet was arrested previously for carrying a prohibited category D weapon to an unauthorised protest and the one he was going to was also an unauthorised one so maybe the police got some intel. Lets see how it plays out this time.
Eric Drouet is a significant member of the Yellow Vest movement in France. Arresting Eric Drouet at a time when the protests were dying down, would seem to be an insane action. It is bound to resurrect the protests. Macron is a unicorn for the globalist bankers, and as you know, unicorns are a creation by man, and their purpose is to lead free spirits into captivity and slavery. One of the objectives of the globalists is to foment social unrest and economic disruption. They then hope to step in with a new world order to resolve the problems they have created.
One result of this could be the further erosion of the decaying European Union. If the EU collapses, then it will give the bankers a chance to lose the mountain of bad debt that they hold. Do you think this is part of the plan?
One result of this could be the further erosion of the decaying European Union. If the EU collapses, then it will give the bankers a chance to lose the mountain of bad debt that they hold. Do you think this is part of the plan?
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