Topic: Why do we spam (Read 588 times)

Do you intend to be a spammer? I needed ask you the same question too maybe you have plans of Spamming in the future. Based on your research, how many persons have you seen Spamming and how do you know they are spammers? These are the things you need to ask yourself so that in the future you won't end up becoming a solid spammer. From what I've seen, majority would rather prefer to spam to complete weekly posts. And the newbies spam because theu felt that it is not necessary for them to keep writing lines of words. Some persons would also decide to spam rather than staying idle.

For me I think spamming are of different categories which are
1. Newbies with the mindset of getting attraction to rank up.
2. The porpose of meeting weekly quota.
3. Some do intentionally for them to be popular in the forum
4.  Some don't know they are spamming or even know the word spamming hence they do anyhow.
5. Merit fishing.

All this factors are what I think is the cause of spamming

All spamming are intentional, you can't wake you and start writing rubbish without been intentional. Just as the OP said, many spams are as an outcome of multiple accounts. Back in the day it was because they wanted to farm as many account as they can to increase their bounty payouts but since bounty aren't paying as they use to do, the attention has been shifted to signature campaigns.

They mightn't be able to get into the high paying campaign but having multiple accounts in smaller paying campaign with lesser requirements giive them the same pay as those with one account in a high paying campaign. Not only those with multiple accounts are spamming though but also those with one account. Here's a secret, if you are contributing to a discussed that you know nothing about but only writing there to complete your weekly quota, you're spamming. Off topic is a spam, generic replies are somehow spams.

Provided you're not adding anything new to the discussion you're spamming so when you see a threads with multiple pages there's no need writing there again because irrespective of what you feel hasn't been said must have been discuss already before the thread got to that number of pages.

Do you really believe that the majority of spammers on this forum have several accounts? They are not the only ones, in my opinion, that spam this place, there are also some newcomers who, upon first exposure, solely engage in spamming. However, I don't always hold it against them because some people are unaware of how this forum operates. That's why some beginners typically experience it. Since a senior rank member who has been active in this forum for some time probably doesn't post inappropriate content, because whatever they come to post or discuss about most be the reasonable things.

Some newbies are spamming that look or feels natural but some isn't natural because they already read the forum rules and yet still spam. They are lazy enough not to care to improve their posting habit. Almost all newbies who joined in the forum only care getting merits to rank up instead of getting information or knowledge to become knowledgeable. It may be hurtful for others but it's the truth and there's nothing we can do about them but themselves only.

For beginners who spam, it's natural because they don't fully understand the forum rules. They need to understand the forum rules properly and continuously make improvements. However, for seniors who continue to spam, especially if it is done on purpose, this must be reprimanded, they only care about posts and don't think about what they have posted.

Most of those who spam like this are chasing posts for signature campaigns, not all of them do it, but this often happens, and yes for those who have more than one account. And maybe this is the last type of person who often spams, they are lazy about reading so they make a lot of posts that are off topic, even though it is difficult to read and understand first before replying to a post.

I see you have reduced the criteria by 10 merits, it's no longer 20 but 10. I understand your point but I'm telling you when it comes to quality, merit isn't all that betters. Some local boards don't have enough merits circulating the board for people to be receiving more merits meanwhile their highest contributions are on their local boards and also some boards don't have enough merits been circulated there compared to other board that the discussion there mightn't be much of a big deals but because there's too much supply of merits, frequent posters on the boards get more merited.

We can't advice people to hurt for merit by going to post on those boards that there are surplus of merits because it'll lead back to spamming. You need an account, there are many of them but just a search and I found one example Abiky many ppople that have encountered his account and engaged in discussions with him on the forum can testify that he's a quality contributor but has 13 earned merits in the last 120 days and some of the factors contributing to this is because of his ranks and board of preferences. If your criteria was used managers will miss him for someone with probably less quality but a better merit receiving record

Don't use only merits to judge quality buddy, it's a tools to identify an account contributing positively to the forum but not every earned merits are for quality post. Merits are awarded for various reasons some earned just for their contents been funny or for artwork and other things.

There is no need to wonder why people spam, they do it either to complete certain post requirements or trying to be active in the forum. Before, when there was no Merit system, people used to spam so that they can get activity points and then have their accounts ranked up, but after the Merit system, spam was relatively reduced, however, some things can never vanish completely, and spam in this forum is a thing like that, that's why, you will always find some spammers here and there.

These days, most people that spam are shill accounts which are used to advertise different platforms or projects which are mostly new and non-serious ones because the ones that are serious platforms or projects, they aren't promoted this way. Other users that spam are bounty campaign participants, mostly.

I don't think spamming in the forum is intentional. Some do spam out of their awareness that they are already spamming. Although most of those who own multi account may resort into spamming, but I mostly believe that those newbies in the forum are most likely to do spamming since they keep on flooding post with no quality content.

After Merit dealt a huge blow to spammers, spamming is still a considerable problem of Bitcointalk, of course.
Main problem are signature campaigns due to paid sigspam and also paid shilling / bumping to a lesser extent because it's not really profitable.
Most spam occurs on our Gambling section nowadays but it's not limited to certain sections.

As said in previous replies, "natural spamming" can be a problem as well because spammers can customize each spampost to optimize viewcount.
Examples are fake translations, or similar.
Another issue are trolls, recent examples are the disgusting troll digaran, because he's just here to commit abusive trolling, derailing normal topics with his bullshit, his brazen lies, his malicious intent to divide the community or even spewing hate against valuable forum members like Poker Player, GazetaBitcoin, JollyGood or me (1miau). With such trolls like digaran, they are a massive disgrace and danger for Bitcointalk.
Same like shitposters, who have opposed my campaigns to create more awareness about writing quality posts. 
Or jvanname, a retarded impersonator, whose defamations are completely inappropriate and he's creating new, useless topics every day.

After all, spamming and trolling is usually a true internet problem but hopefully, moderators will do their job and go against spammers and trolls, while sane members will always outnumber these abusers and the focus is clearly on creating quality content.
Merit was a good step into that direction, maybe a de-merit function would be helpful as well. 

After all, Bitcointalk will only stay relevant if we can offer quality content to attract readers and visitors, also from Google search etc. 

I also don't know for sure what causes some members of this forum to write spam posts. However, for beginners it is still normal if the writing is still spam, because they are still in the learning stage. But for members whose ranks are already high, I also don't understand why there are still people who write spam. In fact, if you look at the ranking status, it is clear that this member has received many rewards from his posts which are definitely of high quality. But why do you sometimes still make spam posts?

The answer may be because there is a posting target that must be pursued.
Or because are busy.
Or the member could also force a post on a thread he doesn't understand.

Because of the three factors above, in my opinion the quality of posts can decrease and they can end up being spam posts.

People generally spam for post count. Before the merit system was implemented, lots of people would create accounts and post spam comments on various threads for activity points in order for their accounts to rank up. Now that the merit system typically abolished such abuse, spams are still prominent across different boards in the forum.

To be honest, I also feel perplexed and confused on why people spam in the first place. I guess they still have this mentality that number of posts = quality? Though I do not know for sure on how people apply for tokens but I guess they seem to think that the more posts they have, the higher the chances that they would be accepted in a given campaign.

In conclusion, people spam for different reasons but the common denominator is that they probably are newbies who know little-to-no english at all.

There are lots of reasons why there are lots of scammers but what I have seen are because of Tasks and airdrops as those who are finishing their campaign requirements, if you go on some who give rewards they will require you to prove you have finished the task daily, unlike those campaigns that will punish and remove spammers

There are many reasons why forum members spam apart from fishing for merits and  meeting signature campaign weekly quota. Some persons it could be they are spamming to achieve the total number of posts/activity that should put them to the next rank as they have already gotten the number of merits needed but activity is holding them down because their post count is below for the next rank. To some, which is a very weird reason actually, this persons assume that by posting in almost all boards of the forum a day will give them some recognition and this sort of excitement is mainly found with newbies.

Spamming in this forum is done from accounts that have zero rank or new accounts that have been created in the forum. In this case, I can see two reasons for their spamming, one is maybe they are spamming without knowing the rules of the forum and another reason is that they think that their account has no rank so spamming now might not be taken seriously. I only thought so from my personal point of view but something may be different. It is normal for a new member who doesn't know any forum rules to spam the forums but a senior member should never spam because spamming will get him a warning and his account may be banned. In addition to banning the account, the member may be removed from the campaign for spamming if he is involved in any promotion campaign. So it seems to me that most of the forum spamming is done by younger members of the forum.

Is there such a thing as unintentional spam? I’d argue that a good number of spammers do not wear signature. Some people just enjoy trolling and derailing threads. It’s very common to see in altcoins discussions, politics & society and wall observer ( btw signature do not appear in wall observer). Many campaigns do not accept posts in certain boards because of the poor quality of posts in those boards. How long can a shitposter last in a campaign before getting kicked out? Also your chances of getting accepted in a campaign is pretty low if you are part of @actmyname spammer blacklist.

Spamming may come out of ignorance about the rules and regulations of the forum. I observed people don't read about the rules and regulations of the forum before joining the forum. This may make them to spam. It's highly advisable for everyone joining the forum to read the rules and regulations of the forum well before joining so as not to go against the forums' rules.

Do you know that to span does not come intentional and secondly the reason while people span to different dimensions is due to signature campaign and again when they have no interest in post they will just type in order to meet up post targets or quota, I think that is the reason while they span

To say the fact, not everyone spams, but some do it deliberately while some don't even know how to avoid doing it because they never take their time in reading how they were being expected to make a post here unlike on other platforms, but anything you post and wasn't on track can be regarded as spam, therefore we are encouraged to always made the best of our contributions on threads to avoid rendering them into spams or off topic posts.

The right question should be, "why do spammers spam?". This is because it is not everyone that spams. These can be some reasons for spamming;
1. Some are natural spammers
2. Shilling projects
3. Difficulty in understanding English
4. High work load etc

There are newbie spammers which is the reason there are some restrictions, such as not posting images till they earn a few merits and activity.

One quality account is better than 3 spamming accounts.

Hehe. I am sure he doesn't even know what is he writing. Sometimes, The AI generates these shits and as you may know, some members use AI to write these shit. We have a member in our local thread who said everyone should wash their wallets to keep them clean but everyone was talking about crypto wallets. It is funny how this guy came up with such spam in a thread where we were talking about spam. LOL.

Benedictare, the spam you were talking about is unsolicited PM. Anyone can report them and they PM sender may get banned for doing it repeatedly. But, we are talking about forum posting spams where people rarely get banned for posting shit.

   
You are talking about spam in a general sense. I think the OP was more interested in spam on this forum, which does have its own specifics.


How can they be "harmless" if they are "fraudulent"? Besides, you said a second ago that they can also be "very dangerous". You are contradicting yourself.

 
  Spam has to do with unrequested messages sent in magnitude which are usually sent through email,  it is also shared through text messages ,social-media or phone calls.
    Some people spam for various reasons,  but some common motivations has to do with selling of services , circulating malware  or scams and the main reason of motivation of spam is to make profit.   

    Spammers communicate their unwanted messages through bulk sending like marketing to sell their not requested goods. Spam seems to be lucrative especially when they sell products that are questionable. Spam is very annoying and can  be very dangerous    .
   
   Spam messages usually come in a way of harmless promotional email  which are fraudulent.

You really think that will stop them from doing it? I don't think so. It's like saying public display of execution of criminals will stop others criminals from going into crime? I haven't seen that method being effective in discouraging crime or has it been able to reduce crime rate. From my observation, I think campaign managers have a bigger input in this if it's to stop. If campaign rules are set to discourage spam posts and those managing them are strict in sticking to it, participants will sit up. There's no gainsaying about it.

Seems I triggered too many points here. I cannot reply to everyone but I would love to clarify what I said.

Yes. I still stand by what I said. If someone is active enough in the forum shares his knowledge, and reads before they write, they should earn at least 10 merits in the last 120 days if not 20. How many members could you show me who are active in several sections of the forum but didn't earn at least 20 or 10 merits? Either they are not active, or they are stuck in a circle where merits are not circulating enough. I do not focus on earning merits either.

How else should we judge the quality of posts? After all, merit was introduced to judge the quality of posts. If you believe some members generate quality content and they do not earn merits for their content, it's the failure of merit sources as the administration. Feel free to share who are those members who are generating quality content, I will report their good posts to get merited in some specific threads where merit sources award good posts.

I am not blaming campaign managers for the spam. But, if campaign managers pay for the spam, they have to take the blame.

You can't conclude that the reason why people spam is because they have multiple accounts. This is irrational and does not work like that. Your sense should tell you that there are people that are just lazy to type whether they are interested to create multiple accounts or not. Some few spammers that I know are not even in any signature campaign or whatsoever. At first you have to define what you meant by spam so that we can have a clear view of your perspectives about Spamming.
After that, we can move to the contention to truly know how to indicate and conclude that someone is spamming. Another thing I would like to ask you. Is spamming limited to people that are in signature campaign only or general?

You can’t put the blame on campaign managers. I have worked on many campaigns with different campaign managers and I can tell you that no CM wants a spammer on his team. I noticed CMs always take note of the quality of participants before acceptance and during their time in the campaign. Reputable CMs do not reward low quality posts, they do not count them as eligible and will leave a side note on the spreadsheet to let you know you need to improve your post quality.

Competition for signature positions is tight and CMs only pick the best of the best. If you’re getting paid, it’s expected that you give your best. Of course there are certain campaigns that care about quantity more than quality. Most of the accounts who wear the signature & avatar of such campaigns are alt accounts or accounts that normally would not make it into a good campaign.

That's not just the reason why people spam in the forum because some people are posting in order to reach the required post count to be eligible to get paid even though they know that they are spamming and some are also not aware that they are spamming in the forum. Some people might say that those people who are spamming where their accounts are bought but not all spammers bought their account because some of them are starting from newbie rank although it was before the merit system is implemented. Before, people can create account and just post what they want until the activity count reached the required activity points needed to reach a certain rank but as you have know that this time merit is also needed to rank up.

Spamming has always been a red flag in the forum. People resort into spamming certainly because they're unaware that they're already spamming in the forum. They will only say they are only doing their part in the forum, without assessing their posts if they still have quality contents or they only fall into low quality posts that made them spammers in the forum.

While spamming is highly discouraged in the forum, but maybe it's easier being said than done since a lot of us still end up spamming without us knowing.

TBH I think spamming is mostly done by people who bought accounts while not knowing Bitcoin and cryptos very deeply. And unfortunately some bounty managers are not able to fill all the spots of their campaigns with quality members, so they accept sometimes people posting rather low quality posts. There are also people giving merits to their friends while knowing they don't deserve it. We have even seen posting farms from third world countries sadly. It leads to be unable to discuss with other people in some sections or to find interesting informations sadly.

How is it the worst requirement when we have users that are producing quality contributions but aren't getting merits. We have people that takes earning of merits as a duty but we also have those that don't put too much attention on receiving merits yet they're not spammers. Some accounts has earned merits more than those that are contributing positively to the forum but that doesn't mean they're more of a quality poster. Boards that you're active in has a big role in the amount of merits that you'll receive considering both accounts are on the same level of quality. Don't use merit to judge the quality of an account as those with less merits can be a more quality posters than those with merit especially in the recent 120days.


How does earning 20 merit in the last 120 days qualify you as a quality posters? Just because a user haven't earned merits doesn't warrant him to be kicked out of a campaign and I'm glad managers aren't actively implementing that strategy as it'll only bring chaos to the forum. People will start doing unethical things to meet the requirements. Your post quality should be judged by your actual post quality and not merits. A users can be a spammer yet drop one quality topic and get alot of merits, keeping that user in a campaign over the other quality users just because he has more merit won't be a fair criteria.

So, you mean all signature campaigns are the reason for the spam in the forum? According to what you have written above it means that all campaign manager encourage spam as they allow alts to be part of their campaign. According to your reasoning, the managers are just allowing such guys to earn and spam the forum without checking a user's way of writing, or timing of writing and they are unable to understand the writing pattern before selecting a user.

What I wrote is still debatable, but a manager can remove any participant from their campaign without giving any notice to them. According to your statement, they are not doing it as the signature campaign is the reason for spam here. Thanks for enlightening everyone with your valuable feedback. I guess the signature campaign manager for your campaign needs to look into such replies of yours. Your logic and your spam reply is an evidence of how users like you come up suddenly, join a campaign, and then start spamming the forum.

You asked the question and you answered it too. Yes, I have to agree that people have alt accounts and are enrolled in signature campaigns, which is the reason for generating spam. If you check the gambling section, where people write nonsense they are getting paid for it. Merit systems were introduced to reduce spam and it worked well. However, it is the signature campaign managers' duty they appoint for their signature campaign. I saw they hire members who have earned at least 5 merits in the last 120 days which I consider is the worst requirement.

Any member who is active in the forum should have earned at least 20 merits in the last 120 days. If they cannot, they should be kicked out. I see a lot of accounts who joined the campaign years ago and they have not earned much merit since then. But, they are still in the campaign. As long as they are on the campaign and getting paid for generating spam, they won't stop buddy! Managers could help a lot if they want.

If i am not mistaken there is a topic created to judge the overall performance of the system now that merits system has been introduced and people said it is more better now and the rate of spam has reduced, i don't know where OP got his spam post from and besides there is a section he can quickly report any post that he finds no efforts instead of saying that.. Okay how did he know about people having multiple account if i may ask? There have been a room for you to report post and believe me or not there are other members that report spam post or plagiarism content that is why you need to look into that section to know amount of people being reported on a regular basis due to spam post or plagiarized contents.

What causes spamming prior to the introduction of the merit system was because of people farming activities as they could rank up multiple accounts by just causing a nuisance on the forum but since the introduction of the merit system and activity only no longer improves your rank, the reason for spamming has changed, people spam because they want to meet weekly quota or they're hurting for merits. They think the more they write the greater their chances of getting merited as they have more contents out. People spam as a result of not understanding the discussion they're engaging with but just want to write something because their campaign say they should in order to get paid.


They can't do that in high paying campaign but only in bounties, if anybody is caught spamming, it's best they get reported to the campaign manager so they can get kicked out of the campaign for other people with better things to say to get a chance of earning while they contribute positively to the forum. The forum isn't against alts that aren't breaking any forum rules so let say you have multiple accounts and you can contribute to the forum without spamming, nobody will question you but if you're spamming with an excuse of having more than one account then you deserve to get both accounts tagged at least with a neutral to reduce your chances of getting accepted into a new campaign and disturbing the forum with your spams.

One fact about spamming is that some persons spam without even knowing that they are already spamming, I would rather you educate people on what spam post are and how they should avoid postings that could be considered spamming, especially newbies who are very eager to grow exponentially, they spamming sometimes without knowing and just so you know, a critical examination of spam post will prove that a good percentage of some post could fall into this category and some of the posters are not aware they are spam posters.

Having a pattern of posting and a deep knowledge of what you are posting about is a good way to avoiding your post been seen as spam post, if you can maintain your quality most often then you can be sure to a very good extent not to be a spammer, an educative thread on what a spam post is will help better.

Why you (OP) might have centered your research on the forum, it’s evident to know that, people spam not just because it’s something burn out of will but, to archive a purpose. That purpose directly or indirectly becomes the driving force.
Not all accounts on the forum are involved or n a signature campaign but still, you could find them spamming. Why?
The need to stay active becomes the driving force behind this but, be can stay active without spamming so, why then do they spam? It’s simple;
They spam because they’ve got no value to contribute but simply a need to stay active or archive a purpose. That shouldn’t be the case but, it’s often what we see around.

Some others aren’t just into writing or haven’t got the skills for articulation or coming up with some good literal piece but, being on an educative platform and the need go always put something out there, they just can’t help it.

While this might not be the better means to repose, you could always learn. Most big changes in life is acquired by learning. Give it some devotion and you just might be good.

Attention is being paid by forum members to those that are in signature campaigns than those that are not participating in any. Spamming is not only done by those in signature campaigns but can be done by anyone in the forum. Those in signature campaigns are often watched to avoid spamming by their managers or other members in the campaign that are aware that the user much meet a certain criteria before they can be paid out in their campaigns. So if you watch closely and decide to look out on spammers in the forum, you’ll catch more people that are not in any campaign spamming also. Some do it due to their nature and they just want to post even when they have nothing good to say about the topic.


Posting too quickly to meet the signature campaign requirements shouldn’t be considered as spamming when the post are on point and are passing a good message. Some users often spend more time on a particular post until they understand what the OP is saying before they will make comment on it while some people get a grasp of the topic very quickly and it tends to make them reply faster than others. Low quality post that is passing an information that is irrelevant to the topic of discussion should be more considered as spamming and not user posting more frequently should be seen as one. The brain works differently and people understand and respond to things faster than each other.

Most of the time we find that new users are the only spammers. And those new users may not know that doing these things will cause their accounts to face problems and their accounts may get banned. If they knew about such issues, then they would definitely stay away from spamming, and they would never post and spam forums using AI in various ways. Some people do, but they learn from that lesson in future and avoid such mistakes, and they don't plan to make such mistakes in future. Again some people come who do spam intentionally and their account face loss in future, and they fall into huge losses. That's why it's best for yourself and your account to stay away from this type of spamming.

There is really no genuine reason to spam in the forum, because we have numerous boards, therefore if a member can not actively perticipate in a topic, what the member has to do is try another topic or board. We have boards in the forum that discusses topics that are unrelated to crypto matters, so if a member is not knowledgeable about cryptocurrency, at least there must be a board in the forum that the member can relate to while waiting for a topic in Bitcoin or altcoins that they can make quality posts. So spamming in this forum that has thousands of topics to choose from is very unfair.

OP, it’s good that you put the word "we" that is, you include yourself in the person who sends spam. That's right. When every person begins to understand this, firstly, he must start with himself. Turning to himself, “Why am I doing this? Am I in a hurry? I don’t know the topic they’re talking about, and therefore I’m in a hurry to at least insert my twenty cents?". After all, many topics on the forum appear day after day, and we still repeat and repeat the same thing.
Everyone must answer for themselves and not tell everyone what they need to do.
And if you are the OP and you suspect someone of alternative accounts, it’s easier to prove it and submit it for consideration than to torment yourself with guesses that have no weight behind them.

Why do we spam?? Are you asking to know cause you feel spamming is a better option to gain recognition or what?.. I don't get..
it's definitely done intentionally in most cases - any account that's tagged with spamming under proper scruntiny would definitely have a whole bunch of other accounts behind it...but, I was a bit lost here; what do you mean by the theory of personification?

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I consider this particular post as nothing way better than what you decribed in the context; so can I safely ASSUME that you've got several accounts on board? Which could be the reason why you write post that are badly constructed, without any insight?? ....You don't just base your objections that way...

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There are different ways one can Spam and not only low quality post but in your thread you only talked about low quality post. One can Spam by repeating what others have said, and unnecessary posts. In most cases people spam unaware. What I mean by unaware is that, they don't know if their write up is spamming the board or the thread. There some threads that have or contain 100 lines or 500 characters yet it is a spam post therefore spam post is not necessarily that contains few characters. There are some post that have few characters but it is high quality.

Then another thing that can also cause spamming is from the campaign managers. The more they increased the number of posts in a week the more the quality reduce. And that doesn't necessarily because the person has two or more account. Remember most people are working in the real life in government or private businesses so they are always busy with business activities in real life so they only visit the forum when they chanced.

OP you asked a question and gave about two correct answers to the question. Some of the answers you gave for the reason for spamming are
1. to fulfill post quota especially for those in signature campaigns.
2. having more than one account which leads to a reduction of post quality.

Spamming could also be as result of a lack of knowledge and experience. Most people don't want to invest time in learning about Bitcoin and the forum so they end up posting off-point posts. I have seen some accounts that are not in any signature campaign. This might be the set of uninformed forum members.

In fact, your claim will not be accepted well, there must be proof that confirms that the members who spam have multiple accounts. In fact, from what I've noticed, the members who often spam are members who really have the goal of polluting this forum, like they want to cheat or they have other agendas in this forum. but there are several sections that are allowed for spam posts there, that is the WO thread (if you don't believe it then look at that thread). In conclusion, spam is only allowed in certain sections or threads.

You catch it right, it is one of the many reasons behind people doing spamming here on Bitcointalk. and you don't have to remain in doubt because many cases have been reported before and spamming was the main reason which have helped spam busters to catch them. For example, the writing style, the usage of AI which gives some words or group of words in a pattern that is being used at more than one accounts which indicates that the owner of these two posts might be the same. Doubt like these should not meant to be hundred percent real.

Many people have created alternative accounts and tried to do there hard to accept in a campaign and when they selects in one they just try to make posts to fulfill there quota and to do that they make irrelevant posts, or AI generated posts etc.

But this is not the only reason behind spamming, many people don't know the rules of this forum and have been caught using single line or single word posts and have given the tag of spamming the forum, and there are those who are only making irrelevant posts or trying phishing attacks on newbies just to earn extra bucks.

OP's question misses the mark.  Spam's been around as long as folks have been talking on the net.  Spammers will keep on spamming no matter what - and there's nothing can make them quit completely, except maybe making it a pain for them to keep going and  best thing is just tap "Report to moderator" and leave it to mods.

I think that the status of our reports depends on at least two factors, the first of which is our assessment of whether something is spam, and the way we report it. The post can be reported as spam, signature spam, low value post, repetitive content - and it is always necessary to provide as much information (links) as possible in the report. Another thing we have to keep in mind is the fact that not all mods have the same opinion about the same thing, which means that some will delete a reported post, while others may mark it as a "bad report".


I agree, from personal experience I can say that week after week I report posts by the same members who spam one and the same thing, and they are still active, which is definitely something that should not be allowed. Such things can definitely be very discouraging for all those who want to do something good for the forum, so it can seem to them that they are really just wasting their time.

You have to show proof that is the case, you're just speculating you're using the word might, there could be a case like that, but there's also a case of one account who failed to read the rules or does not know the word spam because it's his first time posting in a forum, I'm not taking a side. but if you do not want not to spam the forum take some time to read the flow of the conversion so you'll have an idea of what to post, or better if you do not fully understand the topic just skip.
Spam happens because of a lack of understanding about the discussion, more newbies are guilty of spam here.

if you are bother with spams on forum then you can simply click the report to moderator button then report and let the mod handle that issue if they gonna delete it or let those post stay. Also don't get bother with it since those people will gain mainly affected on what they are doing so focus on your own and create more quality post that them since it will give you a lot of advantage since if your post is worth to read then you provably go rank up first than those people who spam in forum.

Also you don't need to stress yourself for speculating about that or any scenario that came up on your mind since if you are suspected that person is doing that because of the reason you have mentioned then you have  those threads tackling those issue and maybe its good to discuss all of that matter on the right threads.

Even if you have one account you're still going to spam or break the forum rules I have seen countless newbies' useless posts here and posting successive posts or posting malware and plagiarism, if these are alt they know that they can get their account banned, we cannot conclude that because you have an alt account you will spam the forum, its on the posters, and not on circumstances.
Spam happens because the poster is in a hurry to make a post without fully understanding the discussions because of this he is off-topic, and he is not reading all the other replies so his post becomes irrelevant to the topic.

Spamming means a lot of things and I think it's done intentionally. the forum is a place to interact and share ideas bit when it becomes a plan where people want to do what they like because of the privilege they get, then it becomes so annoying. Like you will see a newbie that is supposed to learn rules, focus on ranking start doing a line of posts and do that frequently just to get people attentions or trill just because he/she thinks the forum has lots of traffic. You will see many of them posts referral links and back links to get traffics to other websites.


The forum has thousands people coming here, most of the time I think people spam to get others attention to do something like maybe begging since it's a bitcoin forum and money are been discussed, go to the Bounty board where people are paid penny to shit posts, they will do that to suit there agenda for small money that can't do subscribe to any cable.

It's because you are focus on ranking, from the rank you will understand when an account is spamming or making an engagement in the Forum. We have plenty of some newbies and from their interactions you will know their worth even without ranking up.

People spam for several reasons and some of them are facilitated by the forum.

When a thread has past 15 pages and obvious everything reasonable has been discussed. That is there is no new perspective on it but the thread remains open. This will encourage spamming.

Signature campaign post requirements which includes bonus pay for extra posts also leads to spamming. Therefore even when you do not want to do it consciously, it is done unintentionally.

Newbies spam unintentionally.

Mods rarely if ever delete one-liners, posts that add nothing to the conversation or posts with grammar so poor that they are incomprehensible. So many users have given up on reporting anything that is not advertisement spam with links or completely off-topic.

And you are right, the motivation behind spam doesn't matter, because we can't change it. Strict moderation is the only solution - those who would get banned once or twice would be more careful or would just leave the forum.

Hmm, OP I'm not sure about the context of inspiration to discuss this topic but I would like to say that most spamming happens in informational topics because some repetitive content exchange or being in discussion makes it look like spamming, TBH yes people do prefer filling the weekly quota somehow, but the natural content can be identified with the pattern of writing.

A natural poster never posts the shity, step-to-step procedural information, he always prefers to guide with his experiences, quoting past events, engaging the discussion mostly. On my end, I try to put forward my view first on any topic, I use some informal sentences as well to engage someone in the discussion, Haha, I know the motive of the topic is to discuss spamming not praising ourselves, but removing ( I & A ) from above can convert it into how to avoid spamming.

Once a person nake a post that is off topic or contains nothing to learn or figure out about, that post should be regarded as spamming, posting indescriminately is termed spamming as well.

Spammers don't have time to control alt accounts, some don't even realized that they are spamming, what they do is the reflection of the way they use their normal daily lives.

Just click "Report to moderator" and move on. Spammers will always spam and there isn't anything anyone can do. There is no "why do people do this", "why do people do that". They just do. This forum believes in free speech and as long as the privilege to write anything (according to rules) is given to the users, spammers will continue spamming. It's like smoking knowing it causes cancer. So rather than asking "why" we should start reporting spams. If you report a decent amount of spams, I can't remember exactly, 350-400 reports maybe, you'll get a statistics where it shows how many of your reports were good, bad or unhandled.

Spamming is mainly done by most users without realizing it.  Because they don't know enough about this forum, the posts they make have the appearance of spamming.  Others post too quickly to meet the signature requirement, which is considered spamming.  Spammers don't care if their posts are spamming.  Again there are some users who keep spamming to down this forum.  So everyone's reason for spamming is not always the same

There are two aspects when you are questioning the 'Why?',
First is the Motivation, people who just spamming on their post do that to increase their activity count and finally rank-up, (hoping they will get some merits by spamming, which is almost impossible). Now, this motivation seems just like everyone motivation in this forum, to rank up, but then there is the second aspect Reason, tho everyone is motivated to rank up, not everyone want/could do the effort, some are just blatantly lazy and posting spam because they simply don't wan't put some thought or research, the other reason is not every is good enough to deliver their thought into writing form, or most of they time they just have language barrier because English is not their first language.

If one of those aspects is not occur in someone minds then they won't be spamming, if they don't have motivation to rank up they won't just spamming, they will still post some weird stuff but it won't be as much as if they are spamming. If they are motivated to rank up, but they aren't lazy even though they have language barrier, they will learn to overcome any obstacle to finally reach the level when they aren't spamming anymore.

Spamming is not done by only forum members in signature campaign but also newbies who want to comment on topics that they have no idea on, because they want to be noticed. It is better that you don't comment on discussion that you have no idea on and let go of it. Sometimes it is better read than post.

Spamming is also done to farm merits, but the one that baffles me most are those members with different alts that spam, if they can't make quality post with those alts, it means that they are not qualified to have an alt, so they should only stick to one account to bring out the best in them.

Does it matter at all? The more important question for me is "why do most forum members not respond to spam?" If everyone were to report at least 5 posts they consider spam every day, it would quickly become clear to most spammers that such a method of communication is not worth it.

Another reason I can come up with is trying to fit in where we are not supposed to, i know for sure am not well acquainted with the knowledge of blockchain and it's network system and if someone is asking a question regarding that aspect I do not need to give any response because I know nothing concerning it but most people will claim to have the knowledge when they have nothing or very little knowledge that is required and go about contradicting the questions being asked and most times go off from the topic being raised.
It is better to first get the clearer picture and understanding of what is to be discussed and indulge in it with detail information that is required.

I can not generalize all reasons of spam but there are some common reasons like

Spam to meet post quote in bounties that surely do not look for quality of posts from bounty hunters.
Spam to troll.
Spam with hope to get merit.
Spam to fish merit in local communities.

Spammers mostly are restricted to rank up by merit system as it was designed for this purpose. They only can rank up if they farm merit, buy merit from dark market or successfully beg merit from merit sources.

Your not alone on this most people have noticed it too and I created a thread in meta board for people express themselves on areas of the forum that is slacking which one of the response that enjoy most was from nutildah where he said almost same thing you have noticed.
I think you should have said this there too, spamming is most triggered by trying to meet up with the quota for sig campaigns especially with alts accounts. I wouldn't say much because nultidah has said it all.

From the beginning I was wondering why people spam and I have not find any reason, do we think that spamming have any important effects to our account or its something that is being done intentional or unintentional, do we think from the theory of personification  what causes a spamming is when theirs a particular quota that we have to ascertain that make some of us to spam in order to complete our weekly quota or it's something that is being done willingly.

Do you know that base on a research and observation in the forum I have not seen a clear advantage of spamming, and I have not seen any new accounts that is not in a signature campaign that is being tag because of spamming or have a challenge of spamming before why?

So I think that majorly the people that spam mostly is people that is controlling a numerous of account's and whenever they have a different account's they start writing a low quality post, I don't know if any one have observed that before, that what causes a low quality of posts and spamming might be due to alts, its better time to spread this information so that my own mates in the forum will not have same mindset  of spamming and low writing style.